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>>211920790 (OP)
were you even watching if you need an image like this to point it out?

>>211920790 (OP)
Men grow up pressured into being the top pic then gaslight themselves for years into thinking they're happy while spiraling further into self destructive behaviors. Then they end up being the bottom pic and wonder how their life got so fucked up.
This is what we mean when we say toxic masculinity.

>>211922110
They also end up like that because they're not used to being single. They have no friends or hobbies and can't even cook

>>211922110
>we
We who?

>>211920790 (OP)
I cant imagine being married and happy. Having someone I'm forced to spend the rest of my life with sounds horrible

>>211922434
marriage is about having kids. if you don't see happiness in having offspring and raising them, then I feel sorry for you and it is indeed better for you not take an oath and marry someone

Why does everyone treat shit marty says as gospel? Its shown multiple times hes a delusional fuck up

>>211922674
but you dont need to be married to have kids

>>211922722
you don't, but it's better if you do. unless you have no sense of commitment and honor

>30 years old
>no kids or gf
>my hairline is fucking immaculate thoughbeit

B-B-BAESED!

bump

>>211922722
It's basically impossible for a single man to adopt.

>>211922110

>>211920790 (OP)
>rust talks about being a pessimist and hates on christianity the whole show
>at the end he talks bullshit about "the light is winning" or some bullshit
whats with the inconsistent and contradictory writing of this show? did they hire pajeets to write it?

>>211925320
You're right, anon. You're too smart for this show. Go back to watching your Marvel movie.

>>211925320
>people have contradictory nature

Whoa... never seen that before. Must be the writing!!

>>211920790 (OP)
Should have had a second family with Lilli Simmons

>>211922110
Top pick is the same person, living the same life in the same year as bottom pick retard

>>211922722
Lol when was the last time you talked to your dad

>>211925320
this show is retarded lol, in the scene with reggie ledoux they sneak up on them to arrest them, but then in the next scene where they tell the police about the incident, they say it was ledoux shooting at them from far away and marty saved the day for some fucking reason, did the writers even watch their own show kek? literally same episode retcon.

>>211922803
are you me? Cause I am in the same boat, I also don't even look 30 people think I'm 22 or so, I work at a whole foods and managed to fuck 3 18 and 19 year old girls last year who I work with. I feel like I am finally hitting my stride at 30. before this I was a 'loser' and no girl would even look my way.

>>211925475
There was nothing contradictory about Rust. His whole affected nihilist persona was a cope because he couldn't deal with the death of his daughter. True Detective is a study of toxic masculinity first and foremost.

>>211925746
theres nothing "toxic masculinity" about that, stop spreading retardation like this.

>>211925674
Bait use to be subtle

>>211925859
tv shows used to be good
theres a reason doodoo detective only lasted 6 episodes and then they made a whole new story in the new season

>>211925729
>people think I'm 22 or so
No they don't

>I work at a whole foods and managed to fuck 3 18 and 19 year old girls last year who I work with
If that's "hitting your stride" then that's just sad lol

>>211925825
Being afraid to embrace their feelings, show emotion and especially cry are core parts of toxic masculinity and the societal pressure on men to be stoic and strong. You should stop letting retards on Xitter define words and concepts for you.

>>211925729
Yea I'm kinda young/baby face looking and do well with chicks when I actually try. 30 is peak so far I can't believe I was worried about leaving my 20s lmfao

>>211925965
They do tho? I tell them I'm 30 and they act shocked, some of them get scared. One girl did nothing but constantly blow up my phone and we'd hang out then she found out my age and completely ghosted me out of nowhere. Yet she is a slut cause she goes out and smokes weed every week so I don't get why me being 30 and her 19 is so offensive to her

i refuse to get married until i have had that summer of 69 where im banging 9/10 collage babes all day round and going hiking/ camping/ farcry3-style beaching with my boys. either i get to live a great life or i refuse to live at all

>>211926074
i know what "non-sjw" toxic masculinity meme is about, its still stupid at its core and rust is not toxic in any way and doesn't do any of what you're saying. he literally opens up to marty's wife immediately and goes to talk with her a lot, he shows up messed up to the house. even if hes traumatised his coping mechanism is actually working very well because he is a great detective and a top tier interrogator even if hes awkward to be around and doesnt have many friends.

>>211926095
>30 is peak so far I can't believe I was worried about leaving my 20s lmfao

>>211925965
>>211926261
Why are you crying?

>>211925965
>>211926261
kek what a raped demoralisation nigger

>>211920790 (OP)
>turn 22 this year

>>211926232
'Toxic masculinity' when used properly is a sympathetic term designed to highlight the internal struggles that men face in terms of how they should act. People who immediately get defensive and angry when they see it are part of the reason it was allowed to be hijacked by slobbering retards on social media. Rust was toxic to himself, refusing to allow himself to heal, shoving his emotions deep down inside and LARPing as a nihilist. The entire point of the ending is that he finally drops the facade and admits that he's still broken inside over losing his daughter.

All this makes the "he's literally me" crowd for Rust pretty funny, considering the character doesn't believe his own bullshit. Usually such people just dismiss or say the ending sucks and was a 180 that came out of nowhere, despite the entire show building towards it if you actually pay attention to Rust and aren't just thinking about how "he's, like, so deep, maaaaan."

>>211925674
>>211925956
Bait use to be subtle, if you don't understand why they changed the Reggie ledoux story in earnest, than you are a complete dumbfuck instead if a total faggot. Grim either way

>>211926624
>'Toxic masculinity' when used properly is a sympathetic term designed to highlight the internal struggles that men face in terms of how they should act.
its a progressive trojan horse (because they realised they used tonly just shit on men) that tries to act that way but all the crap about "men should show their feelings and cry" and so on is harmful unempathetic liberal bullshit.
you misunderstand the show too, rust is not toxic or self-harming, hes coping and his coping mechanism isn't really bad, especially since it ultimately leads to his catharsis and healing, i think you mean well but you probably got this from one of these typical crypto-leftist essayists on youtube and got owned, you should think more for yourself.

>>211926945
I think I'm with you in that
>men shouldn't show there feelings and cry
Firstly it's a turn off for women unless it's from a psychopath who could snap from his sobbing and beat the woman, stoicism and control over emotions is a positive male trait and whatever happened to Gary cooper. Anyway the most toxic thing about toxic masculinity is how women react to men particularly when a man is vulnerable. I've never cried in front of my wife or daughters. I don't think that is failing of masculinity

>>211926624
Marty picked up on it
>You sound panicked

>>211922213
Being divorced at 40 is devastating in any case.
>>211922266
Everyone who has studied the subject.
>>211925138
Projecting what? Are you saying Marty was happy at any point in the series?
>>211925603
Which doesn't contradict my post at all, Mr. . "bottom pick retard".

>>211920790 (OP)
I cannot believe divorced guys eat shitty frozen meals like that. It's so easy to just make a quick stir fry or tacos or something. If you wanna be even lazier just throw some shit into a slow cooker before you leave for work.

>>211922110
>This is what we mean when we say toxic masculinity.
it just means masculinity

>>211922674
Who asked for pity from a fucked up father who posts on this pedophile board

>>211926237
>ex-stepchild

>>211925965
Im 40 and people think I'm 25. How about that?

>>211933559
Again, no they don't

Seriously though, what's the optimum way to live your entire life as a single person? I've made peace with dying alone but I don't want to fall into that "old balding bachelor in his 40s sitting alone in a one bedroom apartment" lifestyle where I die at the age of 60 fused to a couch and am only discovered a month later because the neighbors complain about the smell of my rotting corpse.

>>211922722
true. but the state will consider you the same status once you have a kid anyway so its a bit moot

>>211934063
they might, if he is thin

>>211926624
I've hijacked your slobbering mouth to use it as my personal fleshlight. As opposed to, say, a communal fleshlight which your rectum is an example of.

>>211933559
no one believes you're 25 lol

>>211922803
I never dated a girl "seriously" until I was 31, so if that's what you're looking for, there's still time bro.
t. broke up with her two years later lmao

>>211934740
I don't know your work situation but Just do your hobbies and find at least 1 friend you hang out with every week if you can, I myself am in 2 local bands. The only friends I have are 20 years older than me because nobody plays instruments anymore but it's fun. I have a huge barrier with people around my age, I just don't get along with them and they seem to really not like me. Older people I do just fine and get really close to with little effort. Find some old boomer you get along with and you'll have a guy with unlimited money who for whatever reason his kids hate him and you'll be like the son they never had. They'll even give you their old vehicles and furniture and shit for free. I don't know maybe I'm just wired.

>>211922701
The entire point of Marty is to put le toxic conventional masculinity in his mouth then show him to be bad

Its over

>>211925674
What about them having that biker dude in the back of their car the whole time?

you retards dont understand that to get a job and/or a gf these days you have to have a high value marketability presence on social media. And no, im not talking about posting faggot nazi memes on a burner account on twitter.
Im talking about posting milestones, successes, and trips/experiences on facebook, instagram, VSCO, tiktok, and linkedin.

If you arent doing this, then its genuinely over for you

>>211925965
>If that's "hitting your stride" then that's just sad lol
You faggot

>>211937428
That sounds fay and womanbrained, kill yourself

>>211920790 (OP)
What is the actual age of no return? 32 with zero skills and I feel like it probably happened for me at 30

>>211937643
30 really hurt for me

>>211937643
How do you have zero skills at 32. 22 maybe if you fucked around at Jr college or real college for that matter.
Did you just neet for 12 years?

>>211920790 (OP)
literally me
except i don't have a job

>>211937643
32 here as well. Been trying to get a better job and a better apartment but no luck so far. I seriously dont know what to do.

>>211937729
Dropped out of college two years in and have been doing shitty retail and driving jobs since. I'm an optimist at heart and kind of believed that something good's gonna eventually come my way while putting in zero effort to better my situation. Having friends and the very occasional gf helped block the feelings of doom but you just wake up one days and realize "Oh I'm actually gonna be doing this until I die at 46 from colon cancer."

>>211938155
I went back to trade school at 29 and now I make 45 an hour. It's never too late to change your situation anon. It's not over til it's over. It can be done, know a guy who started over at 42 same position as me. You just have to go do it. Complacency and procrastination is your enemy.

It's not even worth starting a family if you don't make 95K a year minimum.

>>211938155
If you just drive around than get a CDL and drive trucks. Of course it's gonna be lonely and you're gonna have to basically live in the truck. But it'll pay quite well and it's not like you're doing anything better now.

>>211930890
For me, it's the airfryer.
>>211934063
I had it happen again just last week.
>>211936728
Im not as thin as I was but still slender.
I've avoided the sun for much of my life and my mother always looked young for her age as well.

>>211937007
People gave me shit when I was 18, they said i looked 12. When I was 25 I started a new job and the girls wouldn't believe I was 25 until I showed them my license.

>>211929016
Studied what subject? Men?

>>211920852
>were you even watching if you need an image like this to point it out?
You have no idea how many people watched this show, and I mean actually watched back in the day, not distracted by a second monitor or cellphone, who didn't realize all the projection going on with Marty's character.

36
no family
no job
NEET status
I've known it has been OVER for a while but it's really starting to hit me how far it's over now and that I destroyed any chances of happiness by deciding to give up and never change.

When I was in my teens and 20s I would tell myself things would change in the future and I would look back on how I felt at the time and laugh at the existential crises. But then things never changed because only (you) can actually make it happen when there's no one to help you but yourself and no one is going to change for you.

>>211930890
Speaking from experience, the crushing weight of your pathetic sad existence prevents you from putting in any more effort than pressing those couple of microwave buttons

>>211938443
What do you do for work tho? What kind of trade?

>>211942517
Hey man, at least you can shitpost about kino with your buddies here right haha

>>211942517
i think thats the age i got insane level of neetbux and now financially secure for the rest of my life,

i know youre just larping faggot but legit my story and feelsgoodman because not changing can be a good thing, it shows a history of disorders and problems

>>211925729
>fucking prime pussy at a retail job
Based, only reason I would ever work a job like that again

I'm 34 with no real skills, I work 36 hours a week at 26/hour, I have no friends and every time I meet a new person, they're the worst person I've ever met. How fucked am I?

>>211942627
To be honest, I blame myself for everything but at the same time 4chan definitely has influenced my path to being the way I am right now. I have been using 4chan for almost 20 fucking years now.

>>211942678
Not larping sadly, wish I was. I am too ashamed and embarrassed for NEETbux anyways. Luckily my parents have money, not uber rich but well enough off to coast the rest of my shitty life, just not one of luxury.

>>211920790 (OP)
You guys need to calm the fuck down already.

>>211943180
>every time I meet a new person, they're the worst person I've ever met
Qrd on what you mean. I feel the same way, I wouldn't even mind if they were normie tier, but I don't even think that exists anymore everyone is so fucked up. but I'll meet someone who seems alright and then I'll find out they have some ridiculous obsession with pitbulls and have 10 of them or most the time they are polyamamorous or have some kind of weird cuck shit going on they are proud of it for some reason. I don't think I've met a normal person under 45 for 10 years.

>>211931036
Masculinity=acting like my daddy

Toxic masculinity=acting like my daddy when he's drunk

Just got my pre approval on my first home, I'm wondering if in a few years my girlfriend and I will be ready to start a family

>>211937174
It isn't your fault your peers don't rock. Fuck 'em, you deserve the RAV4 more than those brats do anyways.

>>211937386
I was 32 when the only woman I'd honestly want to marry left me. Damn, that was 10 years ago next month.

I didn't choose this shit. I took me some time for weed to get legal so I could advance and now that I can get married, I can't find anyone where we'll both be happy. The shittiest thing is I know a 23 year old who has a crush on me and she's super fun to talk to but I was 19 when she was fucking born and the gap makes me sick. But when I meet single women my age, they're fucking retarded. It's like all the cool women went dyke or fucking died. Except the woman who I see as a literal child.

Be nice to her parents, y'all.

>>211947080
Was gonna say this before because I expected this kind of response.
I'm not taking advantage, they tell me about their kids and they are drug addicts or have serious issues or they're kids just hate them. I don't really ask about them for obvious reasons, and I always offer to give them money for stuff, they just say "I have to much shit, I need to get rid of stuff" I assume it's regret mixed with wanting some kind of redemption and loneliness. Think gran torino type of thing and I guess I'm the Asian kid.

>>211937643
its over when you decide its over. you have more potential at 32 than the 22 year old that gave up.
never give up. just use ai its probably better than any advice i can give you

>>211920852
The line is said in the episode 1 which is 6 episodes before the scene at the bottom is shown and it is followed by a scene bout Rust that contextualizes it so you didn't know either even if you were watching because the show had to run for a 6 more weeks before the rest of the context was given.
Judging by your hostility and autistic behavior I can tell you are now realizing you are retarded for not noticing until now and you are mistaking OPs thread as an attack to your newfound retardation.

And no, when the scene showed up a month and half later your first thought wasn't "Oh he was just projecting" you probably thought "KEK BRO LITERALLY ME XDDDD" like the surface level retard you are that just wanted to see the epic lines to parrot in the threads to fit in.

>>211947359
>I didn't choose this shit. I took me some time for weed to get legal so I could advance and now that I can get married,
What the fuck did I just read?

>>211926074
>You should stop letting retards on Xitter define words and concepts for you.
>Says while copypasting Xitter feminist leftyfuck drivel
lmao

>>211922674
>marriage is about kids
So it doesn't matter if you're miserable with your partner or even just plain unhappy? Sounds like a recipe for disaster and a sub-optimal upbringing for the child, if not outright dysfunctional. I don't think you should be giving anyone advice on this issue.

>>211926237
>ex step child
tfw not intellegent enough to understand unitedstatian family relationships

I'm going to delude myself that getting fit and upgrading jobs will land me a decent woman because if I don't the intrusive thoughts will return

>>211948549
>and a sub-optimal upbringing for the child
You know what's even more sub-optimal than child rearing in an environment where the parents have issues with eachother or aren't perfectly happy with the arrangement? Literally any type of divorce. The best most civil and painless divorce fucks up a kid significantly worse than a highly adversarial conflict filled home life with both parents under one roof and the literature overwhelmingly supports this. The only time you hear the inverse is from scumbag divorce lawyers. It can't be overstated just how psychologically damaging divorce is for a young child.

>>211948810
Strenuous exercise on a consistent basis and eating well will probably help calm a lot of internal stuff down. Worry about that and don't even think about doing it to get with some girl. Do it for yourself. You'll feel good.

Rich people can fix every problem money can fix, which is quite a lot of them. On the other hand, my life is horrible, and therefore, they can have kids.

Rich people can fix every problem money can fix, which is quite a lot of them. On the other hand, my life is horrible, and therefore, they should have kids instead of me having them.

>>211937386
>anime
>Japan
The Japanese have a massive outstanding bill. They need more people to be born so they can pay it, so of course they are going to make propaganda to encourage people to do it. America is in the same situation.

>>211950085
You didn’t know about that? Then I want you to start questioning every little single thing that you see on the screen from now on. The people that put stuff on the screen are trying to manipulate you and are assuming that you’re a fool.

>>211948892
Yes, divorce is worse. But it doesn't mean you go out there, find a woman you know you dislike and who you know dislikes you or is otherwise incompatible, and then go ahead and have a kid with her. You wanna have a kid so badly that you don't even care about giving them a good upbringing in an actual loving home? I don't know about anyone else but that's just crazy to me. It's like being obsessed with the idea of having a kid, rather than actually wanting to give the kid a good life.

>>211922701
Same thing with Rust. Moids are retarded.

>>211950085
Those numbers aren’t correct. Things have got much worse. America is in a colossal fucking nightmare situation.

>Japan's national debt: 8.84 trillion US dollars
>U.S. National Debt: $37 trillion