How will fat fuck recover from this?

>>211937890 (OP)
one ripped tolkien off and the other moorcock, both hacks but at least one's not lazy

>>211937890 (OP)
the witcher books are barely readable with all the ciri slop chapters. remove all ciri chapters and they'd be kino.

>>211937890 (OP)
The actual Witcher books are pretty awful.
Its just geralt moralfaggin and interrupting people angrily like a sperg, and then women dropping panties for him.

Rare case in which game is better than the book and movie/show.

Lazy fat fuck needs to die

>>211938376
Martin is awful but Sapkowski has no room to talk when he's guilty of the exact same shit Martin is. I'm unsurprised Sapkowski sold the license rights for peanuts then got butthurt when people with actual talent turned his tripe into something worthwhile (the games).

>>211938133
How is GoT like Tolkien?

Not technically wrong. He does deliver on books. Too bad it's slop. GRRM can't finish his books because he's lazy and he wrote himself in a corner. He just can't admit he needs help to get himself out of the mess. Get a co-author to help you and if it doesn't work out, you have a fail safe to blame the other guy if it doesn't satisfy anyone.

>>211938376
All the worldbuilding stuff is pretty cool if your into that. I think the Witcher universe is cooler than GOT but thats probably not a high bar. cahir, regis, emhyr, eredin and the other major elf villain are all decent characters. Witcher 2 is essentially the best of the books. W3 has good parts too but is mostly like the bad parts of the books.

>>211937890 (OP)
What do you mean recover? Now George can milk that drama for years and has another excuse to not write the books
>I was struggling with all the jabs coming from my fellow authors bla bla

>>211937890 (OP)
>write something else
Not a witcher book?

>>211938376
>Rare case in which game is better than the book
You are a genuine retard who is likely pretending that he read the actual series beyond Last Wish. Nothing in the narrative of the games is even remotely superior to the books. The best bit about Witcher games, O'Dimm, is taken from another fucking Polish story altogether.

>>211938896
bro half of the books is ciri slop. while only a 1/3 of the games is ciri slop.

>>211938955
Yep, as I said, a retard who also thinks attaching 'slop' to any noun passes as an argument.

>>211938896
>You are a genuine retard who is likely pretending that he read the actual series beyond Last Wish
This would be a much more salient point if the two short story volumes were not vastly superior to the novels.

I am actually surprised to find this thread full of tastelets who don't enjoy witcher books. It's actually kind of cool that this site can still surprise me with a bad take

>>211938376
>The actual Witcher books are pretty awful.
Strong disagree. I read through the series twice, and it's pretty solid.

>>211938800
>He just can't admit he needs help to get himself out of the mess

Remember when White Walkers were killing Night Watch and about to invade Westeros?

I really hope they fix the gameplay in 4. 3 was fucking piss easy. I beat the game using the default armour/swords until I got wolf armour, because igni and that one perk that let gold heal you for 20 SOLID MINUTES were so retardedly broken once you put a couple points into it. It genuinely invalidated all of the games mechanics. Potions? No point. The food perk made you in unkillable. New weapons and armour? No point, you’re already unkillable and igni not only melts everyone but it stuns them long enough for you to cast it again and keep them perma stunned. Crafting? No point. You’re already undefeatable. Money? Acquired effortlessly if you sell all the useless junk you pick up and don’t need. Even if you did want to chance armours and weapons only the Witcher sets were cool enough to bother getting meaning the devs wasted time and effort modelling a whole bunch of ugly and useless weapons and armours for no reason. There was also no element of discovery to the game because the fucking game marked all the locations of the secret chests on the map for you. It was the melt retard proof game I’ve ever played.

I hope more authors come forward and call George out and it makes him kill himself

>>211939054
>>211939020
Why do you guys like the books so much? if you have an argument superior to my ciri slop one please do share.
>>211939077
i love it overall but never once did i enjoy anything about chapters relating to ciri. leo bonhart is in a ciri chapter and hes cool, and her chapters take you to nilfgaard which you dont see much in the games, so thats cool and i like worldbuilding, but ciri herself is so insanely boring and really a horrible character who unfortunately takes up way too much of the books. its a shame CDPR let her taint W3, they were off to such a good run with the first 2 games.

>>211939030
They are not vastly superior. Some prefer them, and more power to those guys, but they also ignore a complete boatload of incredible characters and scenes from the main saga or that Sword of Destiny is basically a giant episodic lead-in to the Saga.

>>211939158
The best part of Ciri character was when she got groomed and raped by a dyke and after her death she immediately forgets about her

>>211939145
Bro 4 is gonna be ass. as for W3. i did death march first playthrough, obviously it was super eays, just dodge and eat spam except dodging is practically done for you, and quen spam invalidates any failure to dodge. every subsequent playthrough i used combat overhaul mods, my best experience was modding to the degree where i could one shot most human enemies, be one shot by pretty much all monsters except minor ones, and make any large monster or boss monster have a ton of health. this was the most fun because even though dodging is trivial it made it so you still had to respect the enemy cus if you get hit once your dead. also i never used Quen after the first run, lame ass spell. most people also over level the Red tree, but i always focused on the blue and green ones especially which are much more fun not just "do 10x more damage". combat is still pretty basic all things considered.

>>211939158
When I read the books as a kid, I didn't care much for Ciri. But I didn't find her annoying or grating, just not terribly interesting. But then I reread the books like a decade later, and I was surprised to see, that I liked her quite a bit.

>>211939158
>Why do you guys like the books so much
Because of the character writing, simple as. Why do you think games went out of their way to shoehorn practically every book character into their narrative? Even the dead ones?
Again, why do I need to explain anything to a person who pretends Ciri chapters exist in some isolation sphere with no other characters and whose vocabulary pinnacles at "cool, slop, boring"?

>>211939258
>and after her death she immediately forgets about her
That's not true. She goes to visit her grave later.

>>211939181
I recall baptism of fire and time of contempt being the most entertaining of the main saga. one of the last two books(or maybe both) have some insufferable ciri chapters about her travelling through dimensions. i honestly hardly remember last wish and sword of destiny i read them so long ago. some stuff about renfri's gang and all the stuff in the netflix show's first season is what comes to my mind.
>>211939390
My problem with her in game and in book is that almost everything about her is whining or being a victim.
>>211939448
>Because of the character writing
same. i liked regis cahir emhyr and others. except sapkowskie suddenly decides to write misery sob story porn when he gets to ciri chapters. or ridiculous interdimensional girlboss shit.

Reminder when fat fuck insulted Jordan because he died

>>211938376
>The actual Witcher books are pretty awful.
This. I will admit the short stories (The Last Wish etc) are genuinely good, but the main Ciri book saga is really awfully overrated. The characters and their predicaments are insufferable in an uninteresting way, and Sapkowski's notions of interpersonal drama are extremely grating and just hint at his unresolved issues.

I can't believe I'm saying this but Witcher 3 videogame did Sapkowski a huge favor, because it took the shit stuff from his books and actually reassembled them into something way more likeable and presentable. In a fucking videogame.

>>211939054
>fantasy slop
:I
>fantasy slop, poland
:O

>"And also, listen ... I totally understand him. Because if someone had pulled a stunt like that on me, filming a series based on my books, and then getting ahead of what I intended to write, I’d also be wondering whether there’s any point in writing anymore. If it’s already been done, right? Makes no sense. It’s nice when they adapt your work, that’s the author’s bloody right, but to adapt what doesn’t exist yet, to extrapolate like that? That’s just indecent"
he's right

>>211939549
>My problem with her in game and in book is that almost everything about her is whining or being a victim.
Well, she starts out as a literal kid. So not much agency. But she grows up over the course of the books. Despite traumatic things happening to her, by the end she becomes capable of taking care of herself. But it's not like the torture porn is unique to Ciri. For example, there's a lot in the books about the horrors and brutality of war. It's just the nature of the world.

>>211939954
>Because if someone had pulled a stunt like that on me, filming a series based on my books, and then getting ahead of what I intended to write, I’d also be wondering whether there’s any point in writing anymore.
but that's Martin's fault. it's not like the HBO showrunners blindsided him lol he had plenty of time and assured them he'd be on time

>>211939549
>misery sob story porn when he gets to ciri chapters
What are you talking about? It was established almost immediately that every single party involved wants Ciri for her womb. Either to impregnate or rip out. How is it suddenly?
What do you refer to as a sob story either?
The part where she tells the hermit at the swamp that rescued her how she ended up there? The most basic literary device of "lemme tell you how I got these scars," spaced out through the book, is a sob story?
I sincerely do not get you people. Is Leo Bonhart buck breaking Ciri's drug-induced Robin Hood fantasy a misery porn or the most interesting part of her whole narrative as she is brought down to earth and skill-checked by a mere man in his underpants? This shit makes no sense to me, Ciri's chapters are perseverance and a cycle of highs and lows.

>>211939954
That's nonsense.
1) GRRM was in cahoots with GOT producers and fully cooperated with them, and he gave them the notes and guidelines on what to make in case he was late with his books. they didn't "extrapolate" in an undecent way, they just followed what he told them and tried to fill in the gaps for the parts he refused to divulge
2) the real reason GRRM lost heart is because people hated GOT S8 but GOT S8 is based on GRRM's notes and the books will end the same way. the overwhelmingly negative reaction buckbroke GRRM because he realized the direction of the story won't be approved of by the international GOT audience

>>211939871
>I can't believe I'm saying this but Witcher 3 videogame did Sapkowski a huge favor, because it took the shit stuff from his books and actually reassembled them into something way more likeable and presentable
What are you talking about?
The worst part of the Witcher books is how underwritten the Wild Hunt is compared to the actual Continent antagonists. And guess what? The games do not fix one iota of it but make it worse, instead of these high-handed figures who simply are trying to right the retarded prophecy while couping each other, in the game they are now Sauron cosplayers with 3 sentences in between them.

>>211940320
He's dumb. Book Dany becoming dragon hitler is perfectly fine and basically foretold. He's conflating the show crowd with the book crowd and forgetting most of the show crowd doesn't read and certainly wasn't part (still isn't) of his initial readership.

>>211940320
The show's Dorne story alone proves they got no useful notes from Gurm.

>>211940075
i'll simplify it. she's a female character and a very boring one even for female standards. i dont read books for women being victims and sobbing about having to be a mother one day.

>>211940602
>sobbing about having to be a mother one day
In the Lake she literally agrees to having a baby, but because the elf king is either infertile or simply unable to get a human woman pregnant, he gets couped by Eredin, who outright says he will rape her to shit, which is why she dips out of there.
The only woman who whines about the burden of being a mother is Yennefer. Because she wants to be one but can't.
>i'll simplify it
You should simplify it more: "I see femoid pov in my book, and my hands start to shake"
No shame in that. That is my reaction to every Shallan chapter post Way of Kings. If you want an actual "I'm a mind-broken victim" character with heckin trauma sipping out every laceration, as an example.

>>211940968
>That is my reaction to every Shallan chapter post Way of Kings
I fucking hated that bitch. The first book of that series is of notably higher quality than the ones that followed partially because she doesn't get as many chapters.

>>211938842
>>211938896
>>211939077

Books:
>dandelion says thing
>Geralt: You're a fool Dandelion! If you remember (long expository dump of regional politics IN ALL CAPS)! And what about (more exposition and geralt bitching about human rights abuses of nilfgaard)! Ever think of tha moron!?
>dandelion says something dumb and submissive
>later a random whore visits geralt in the night as she couldn't resist his charms

Its literally the authors and then everyone clapped and I had sex power fantasy: the book.

Its nothing like the stoic yet humane geralt in the games.

Bookgeralt is a moralfagging insecure um-akshually knowitall redditor asshole.

The two have about as much in common as harry potter and tony soprano.

I like all the Witcher books in general, but holy fuck I wish this one could've gone through like 3 more rounds of editing.

>it's a Nimue chapter
>Geralt's entire Hanse dying rushed and unceremoniously
>a million pages about shit no one cares about

It still has some amazing moments like the entire ending and I like the actual Ciri Bonhart duel, and the Battle of Brenna is pretty cool

>>211939102
Yea, then fat Georgie wrote two books of them basically disappearing from the story and replaced it with characters jacking off during their travelogues.

>>211941359
That's an epic strawman there. Care to actually quote something to that effect from the book, especially the "dandelion says something dumb and submissive"?
Since there are numerous examples of Dandelion outright verbally raping Geralt.
From the first book (I think that's literally the first scene he is in too), where he points out how much of a sad retard Geralt is for making his own profession null and void by simply being efficient at it and that he actually enjoys being his own self-made bygone oddity because he gets to be sad about it. To the infamous "soup scene," where a Geralt's gang gangbangs and clowns on Geralt for being a righteous moron who wants to go alone without them "because it's just the right thing to do".
It seems to me that the books make fun of and disintegrate Geralt's every attempt at moralfagging. But sure, king, fuck that strawman to death.

>>211942204
>wall of text
the books are coomer slop, and geralt IS an annoying lecturing fag in them.
W3 is still my favorite gam of all time however, the two simply have nothing in common.
t. primarily /lit/ anon

>>211941426
Vilgefortz BTFO'ing Geralt's party was kino

>>211938728
They both fail discuss their settings' tax policies.

>>211940381
It's so funny how almost every other villian in the game is better than Eredin, especially in the DLCs like Guanter and Dettlaff. Hell, even small villains like Whoreson Junior and Caleb Menge were more interesting lol.