I'm going through a phase of interest in shows set in the southwestern desert or smaller town south. Anything kind of dusty and twangy. I've got one more season of Justified left and want to make a queue of stuff to line up for afterwards.

I never finished this series. The earlier seasons were pretty good, but I dropped off around season 3.

I never finished this series either. I stopped watching around the time that Glen died not because I really cared about the character, but because the show seemed like it was just spinning its wheels at that point.

I never finished this series either. I stopped watching around the time that Glen died not because I really cared about the character, but because the show seemed like it was just spinning its wheels at that point.

Good show. Sucks that it had to end the way it did. The wrap up film was unsatisfying.

I dropped this show pretty early on. First season was good. It jumped off a cliff soon after.

>shows set in the South

>>211944136
Is it any good?

>>211943351
>dropped off around season 3.
It only gets worse, dropped at beginning of 4

>>211943553
>South Dakota
>Southwestern desert or smaller southern town

>>211944371
It's a soap opera basically and probably not a good one, but it's a reference for a very famous Simpsons joke.

>>211944606
You got me. Yes, South Dakota is neither the south nor southwest, but the aesthetic seemed to fit.

This show was a HUGE disappointment. I went in hoping for Tarantino-esque las vegas or nashville b-movie sleaze/violence and ended up coming out disappointed it was yet another idiotic dick/fart "adult" comedy.

>>211944795
I think I'm on the hunt for something a touch more gritty, but I'll add it to the list and give it a shot.

>>211945240
I was hoping they'd play this straight and let the ridiculous premise the the joke instead of having to ham it up so much. This could have been badass if they just let it essentially be like The Beastie Boys' Sabotage. 70's cop thriller.

Justified is so underrated. It's not Breaking Bad but it's good fucking television j

>>211943477
Glen sucked and already escaped one death with deus ex machina before killed for good.
The real nail in the coffin was killing the blong romantic interest for Rick in Alexandria because then they attached him to the sheboon and started jorkin themselves about how all their romances were interracial or faggot

>>211948126
The show is incredible. They do a great job of balancing thriller southern noir aspects with goofier humor. I only have one season left and I'm getting anxious about finishing it and having no more left (although I know they brought the show back with Justified: City Primeval).

Also on the list (in no particular order):
Sons of Anarchy
True Detective
Mr. Inbetween
Outer Range
Dark Winds
Deputy
Longmire

>>211948126
Breaking Bad is one of the most overrated shows of all time. I tried to watch it twice and could never get past more than 2 seasons because of how boring and pedestrian it was.

>>211943267 (OP)
WHY NEGRON NIGGINS AS I LIVE AND BREATHE!

>>211948301
He died the way he did in the comics, so at least there's that. Again, I wasn't attached to the character, but I couldn't fucking stand Negan as the big bad. My GF and I had a joke that every time he'd appear on screen we'd have to hunker down to listen to him deliver a fucking 5 minute soliloquy about how much of a badass he was.
>"WEEEEELL weeeeell WELL! What do we HAVE hear? Looks like SOMEONE isn't happy with their LIVING arrangement. Me? I like to consider myself a nice guy. I'd be happy to...look the other way and let y'all scatter to the wind. BUT LUCILLE HERE <swings baseball bat> disagrees, and she's MIIIIIGHTY thirsty...."
And so on. For minutes. Every fucking scene he appears in.

>they attached him to the sheboon and started jorkin themselves about how all their romances were interracial or faggot
you sound like a nice boy

>>211948395
I finally watched it last year. It was a fun watch, but I'm with you...I think people suck its dick a little more than they probably should. Then again, I binge watched it. It might have been different if I had to wait and speculate between episodes and seasons.

I'm finally watching Lost too. I REALLY don't know what the fuck everyone loved about that show. I'm thankfully finally on the last season but I really didn't like it. I don't think I'm a fan of JJ Abrams' style of storytelling.

>>211948485
That's what made Negan fun. Top notch actor and over the top dialogue.

>you seem like a nice boy
Oh, so you're just a propaganda addict. Okay

>>211948764
This was a strange show, intriguing, but fair warning it did get cancelled without any sort of conclusion

>>211948641
I tried to binge BB, but like I said I could only do 2 seasons at a time before it was boring me too much to care about starting the next episode.

Lost was fun. It does get tiresome with all the flashbacks, but the island stuff is interesting

>>211949308
He was a great actor. No arguments there. His deliveries were on point. I just started to feel like his scenes were padded out so much to fill episodes because the writers wanted to keep the show going despite running out of comic plot and that got annoying.

>>211949386
re: lost, I coudln't help but make fun of everything while watching it, but I did at least partially enjoy the first few seasons. Once some of the characters got off the island it got really fucking annoying and the time travel shit was infuriating. Through it all from S01E01 through the first half of season 06 (which is where I currently am), I fucking HATE Jack as a character. What an annoying little narcissistic shit.

I'd heard someone talking about how JJ Abrams doesn't necessarily go into things with a plan and his tactic is just to open mystery boxes and see where it leads. After watching a handful of things he's worked on, all I'll say is...you can fucking tell. Maybe he should start planning things out a bit more.

>>211949394
Granted, the possibility of that being the case was well above zero, but those are still the best scenes in those episodes so it's not that evocative of a complaint honestly. I'd rather listen to 5 Negan monologues than any convo between Rick and Michonne that has zero chemistry and nobody remembers

>>211949548
I'm not that interested in trying to dissect JJ's thought process. I think Jack was arguably the best and most interesting character besides maybe Locke, but I'm drawing from echos of thoughts since I haven't watched it in a decade. If memory serves the time travel stuff was a tiny fraction of the show.
Regardless, Lost isn't really an all time great show in terms of quality. It's more notable for how aggressively it exploited the episodic nature of television to make it the quintessential watercooler show in a way that was unmatched until GoT.

>>211949860
I don't really remember if they were a couple by the time I stopped watching or not. I think they might have been hooking up by that time, but I really stopped giving a shit. That guy with the lion was also getting on my nerves.

Michonne was kind of done dirty with her writing. She was a cool character initially with the samurai sword and leading her zombie brothers around on chains, but I think they had a hard time pivoting her character from super intense mostly non-verbal badass to more personable member of the group. It might have been able to work, but they would have had to soften her up over time and they didn't take care to do that. She made a better big sister to Coral than a fuck buddy to Rick.

>>211950079
>It's more notable for how aggressively it exploited the episodic nature of television to make it the quintessential watercooler show in a way that was unmatched until GoT.
I get that. Coming to the show late, I've only seen it after having already seen a bunch of shows that were influenced by it, so it's tough to place it in historical context.
When it was coming out, I had a roommate who used to religiously go to live screening events where they'd have themed drinks, a band called "Previously On Lost" would play a set of songs written about the last episode, and then everyone would watch the new episode live on a projector.

>>211949722
Thanks! I hadn't heard of this. I'll stick it on the list. It doesn't really seem to have that sense of dusty twangy intrigue, but the noir and pseudo western elements seem like they would play well with other shows in this thread.

>>211950116
I think she was more cringe and edgy than cool with the whole samurai/zombie lord aspect, but other than that I agree. They wrote themselves into corner with how they portrayed her then couldn't write themselves out. Didn't help that the actress wasn't particularly good.
I don't even remember much about the lion guy. They kept killing off decent and interesting characters then introducing new shitty ones which is a death knell for shows with multiple pov. Then they ruined Rick by killing off the hot blond and making him share scenes with the ugly, cardboard monkey so that 90% of screentime was unwatchable.

>>211950230
Exactly. Also it had more consistent quality than its contemporaries like Heroes

>>211950487
Heroes came out swinging for the fences. Season 01 was incredible, but when you START the show with the fate of the world in peril, where the fuck do you go from there?

I'd heard that the show was originally supposed to be more like an anthology with each season featuring completely different characters, but the public liked the characters from season 1 so much they decided to keep rolling with it (mistake #2 after the whole "save the world" thing). But what really killed the show were the writers strikes. Season 3 was absolute dogshit because they hired scabs to write it and it fucking shows.

>>211949386
I didn't hate Breaking Bad, but I actually think I liked Better Call Saul better. It's crazy that the spinoff show ended up having more staying power in my mind.

boyd is amazing, especially whomever wrote his writing those rants are something else

This was recommended to me. It's not the south or the southwest, but it's set in Sydney Australia. I guess there are some similarities when it comes to the sense of heat, ability to let plots stray into barren wastelands, hicks, etc.

>>211943477
the baseball bat guy is pretty kino but otherwise this show really never stood on its own legs after s2

>>211951689
The rants are great and the actor does an incredible job bringing the character to life. He's pretentious and wordy but he plays it just right so there's never been a moment where I really think about the fact that it's an actor playing a part.
Justified might be one of my favorite shows I've seen in quite awhile.

>>211951754
The prison season was a real fucking bummer.
I'll admit that I wasn't a huge fan of the comics either.

>>211951658
BB wasn't even as good as The Shield. I'm not really big into crime drama anyway, so once the novelty of "HS teacher turned hardened criminal" wore off it was just his family and friends being insufferable and the antagonists being repetitive and very "monster of the week"

Shit, I almost forgot about this. What a fucking waste of a great opportunity. I REALLY wanted to like it, but it was pretty fucking bad. They tried to make it cool and sexy when they really should have leaned more into the ridiculous b-movie grindhouse elements.

>>211951934
Prison season was great. I think terminus was where it started going quickly down hill and they tried to make out some old lady into rambo and turned Rick into a little bitch. I remember when Rick was being a blowhard during terminus to find out it was all hot air and they had to be saved by some geriatric woman

>>211948764
Wyoming is not the south/southwest

ON THIS LONELY ROAD
TRYIN' TO MAKE IT HOME
ALL BY MY LONESOME PISSED OFF WHO WANTS SOME

>>211948641
Lost was a "you had to be there" type of thing. It was fun with friends, family and /tv/ as it unfolded, and has great moments but not the best show on earth.

>>211948126
i like it more than BB and I'm not even a hater, they're easily the same tier (tier 2) of drama series, difference is justified has a great world and depth that progresses, you can't beat that passionate brotherly moment in the end
>we dug coal together

>>211952174
>they tried to make out some old lady into rambo
We don't see eye to eye on a lot, but I can agree with you there. She had a reasonably good character arc finding her sense of confidence, freedom, and became self sufficient with firearms, but then they completely Flanderized her and she became some cold calculating genius tactician and super assassin. I didn't buy it.

>>211952319
I fucking HATE the rapping, but the instrumental track goes hard.
Honestly, most of the music (both needle drops and composed underscoring) is fucking amazing. When I finish the series, I'm going to have to go back over it and just study the music. I love American primitivism.

>>211952436
You might hate the rapping, but Gangstagrass is highly interesting if not entertaining.

>>211952598
Is it a whole genre? The closest thing I'd heard to it is Gangsta of Love by The Ghetto Boys which is set to Sweet Home Alabama.

>>211943267 (OP)
I want to read the novella this is based on. Apparently the entire story is covered in the pilot episode.

>>211950322
it is sex and violence:the show.
and while set in lush Pennsylvania, it does have Amish and Indians.
It doesn't have the great vibes of Justified, but what both share are original (and often great) supporting and guest characters.

Is Landman any good? I liked Billy Bob Thornton in Goliath.

>>211954010
can't be mad at a bit of sex and violence

>>211943267 (OP)
Tulsa King

>>211948331
I'd suggest not watching City Primeval.

>>211954066
it is one of the few shows where I noticed how much work they put into their action scenes and camera work.
They have a lot of action and it is very violent.
Also a parade of hot babes and most of them sleep with the main character and the sex scenes are... extensive.
I like to watch it in the gym on the phone, but sometimes I am getting paranoid that someone might look over and suspect me of watching porn on the exercise bike.

This is another one I wanted to like. It's essentially The Big Lebowski - The Show, but they don't really stick the landing. Apple seems to cut corners in very odd places, so while the cast is pretty stacked, the show loses out on a lot of basic cinematography. Scenes are sometimes shot awkwardly, timing could be tightened up, color grading and lighting need work and the sound is awful. The worst part is the atmospheric sound design, though. There are so many scenes that need ambiance so when a character walks from outdoors to inside you feel a subtle difference in the space (or a difference from the car to an apartment, etc). There's music, there's dialogue, and there's essential foley, but it's like someone forgot to add atmospheric sounds to most of the scenes so it feels very much like a rough cut of a student film. Just adding stuff like wind, light hums/buzzes, or treating the dialogue with a touch of reverb to make the voices feel like they're in a real room would do wonders.

Aside from that, I never felt like Patricia Arquette found her footing in the character. I don't think this was necessarily her fault. The dialogue she had to work with was a little too cocksure. We get that she's a druggie, something of a con, and has a sense of swagger that she abuses to get in and out of situations, but the character never got a moment to show true vulnerability.

It sucks. I think the premise was interesting, and in better hands, I think this show could have been really great. I've watched it twice because I want it to be good but it just isn't.

>>211954391
I went through a phase of watching old B-movies while on the treadmill until one time people were working out on either side of me and the film i was watching had SEVERAL painfully long full frontal nude scenes that would pop up out of nowhere.

>>211954264
awwww, that fucking sucks. I was wary when I saw there was a follow up series. Those rarely go well when there's such a long gap, but I was hopeful that I'd be able to extend my Justified kick a bit.

>>211949605
He'll really do anything besides finish those fucking books, huh?

>>211955689
They're never getting done and it's partially HBO's fault. Some writers are architects where they plan everything out ahead of time. Others are gardeners where they plant seeds and see what grows. Martin is very much a gardener and he's said that once he knows how a story ends, he completely loses interest.
HBO made him tell them how he planned to end the series so in case anything happened (he died or didn't finish the books before the series caught up) they could finish the show. If suddenly having to commit to an ending didn't kill any motivation he had, certainly seeing the absolute piss poor way they went about getting there must have done it.

Martin was a successful writer, but he wasn't super rich. Now that the HBO series is out, he has more money than he can probably spend in his lifetime, he's old, and he wants to live it up. As much as it fucking sucks that we'll probably never actually get an end to the book series, I can't blame the guy.

>>211943267 (OP)
you could give Troppo a try.
Set in a small town in Australia, each season covers the plot of a book. Has plenty of dust, but is more swampy.

>>211956486
I'll check it out. I'm woefully ignorant when it comes to Aussie shows. I liked Ocean Girl when I was a kid, and the first season of Danger 5 is an absolute masterpiece. That's about all I know.

>>211943267 (OP)
No one mentioned Yellowstone or the 1883 prequel. Have not seen it, but does it not fit the bill or is it crap? I am curious about the Sam Elliott one at least.

>>211957071
Yellowstone has popped up on a few recommendation lists during my hunts. I haven't seen it either.

>>211955458
not the other anon but just dont watch it
his irl daughter is in it and she cant act for shit, the love interest is shoehorned in and the story just not interesting at all

This show had high and low points, but all things considered, it was reasonably good.
The plots followed various parts of the comics, but they did take some liberties. I think it was for the best. Garth Ennis has some cool ideas, but his actual writing always feels like it's lacking a bit. I know it will be controversial to say this, but I really like what they did with the Tulip character. She was kind of a wet blanket of a nothing character in the comics. She's more of a firecracker in the show, but has enough vulnerabilities and character flaws that she isn't some girl-boss mary sue.

It gets slow for some episodes, but I think the show ultimately stuck the landing.

i forget which is which but Jerimiah or Jericho. both are good and at least one is in a small town. Gets nearly nuked and the other is about all the adults dying.

>>211957205
I was skeptical about the daughter thing. Made me wonder if maybe he was interested in bringing the show back just to help kickstart her career.
I'll take your advice. It just sucks. I don't know why I like this show so much but it really ticks a lot of boxes for me. It probably has a lot to do with the music. Whenever I hear that dirty slide on a resonator guitar it makes a scene infinitely more badass.

>>211955865
>Martin was a successful writer, but he wasn't super rich. Now that the HBO series is out, he has more money than he can probably spend in his lifetime,
He made $120 million from GoT series alone. He does $10 million a year in book sales. And god knows what that fat fuck is charging for all the other shit he is producing and writing for. I think a conservative estimate for him is $250 million +.

picrel is a tv show that is currently running. Although it has Jar Jar Abrams attached and it looks like it would be too woke, it is not terrible. Set in Arizona in the 1970's and is a little bit Tarantino-esque.

>>211957106
>Yellowstone
basically a mob flick but with cowboys and family drama in the style of murica fuck yeah porn.
it's pretty good at first but tends to drag on after season 3, before it completely jumps the shark after costner left the production.
the spinoffs are varying degrees from ok to laughably melodramatic just for the sake of it.
it's not bad per se, but some people might not enjoy the copious amounts of needless drama

>>211958052
Oh man, I've had my eye on this and I'm SUPER excited. I really hope it doesn't suck. It's got a sort of 60s/70s grindhouse appeal to it and I really want it to be fucking awesome.

>>211958670
I wish American shows would embrace limited series more. Keeping shows going until they peter out seems like a bad idea. I'd love if people would pitch a limited idea, finish that, then have the option to start another limited series (possibly picking up where the last left off) if it's really popular and the creators can imagine more. That way everything actually leads somewhere instead of just meandering while the showrunners hope they can keep it going for one more paycheck, er I mean season.

>>211958753
true. I think Amazon is getting better at it as long as they take novels and make them into a season. but even that can go wrong.

>>211958753
mini-series and anthologies are a thing. shit like american crime story, manhunt, true detective, american horror story, etc. have been quite popular throughout the last 10+ years.
in the case of yellowstone they decided to keep running it organically which meant they could introduce and experiment with plotlines as they went along to see what the audience enjoyed and emphasize on that or drop those plots that nobody wanted.
it also allowed them to see which characters are liked which then justifies spin-offs once the main series stalls or ends.
of course there's still problems with it, as you said - the continual squeezing out of runtime even if it doesn't make sense to repeat the same shit over and over or making it ridiculous.
they should have stuck to their original outline, if they even had a proper one, and kept introducing side characters on the go.
instead they kept dragging it on for at least 2 seasons longer than necessary

>>211943267 (OP)
>show theme song
>starts kino awesome
>then suddenly awful hip hop rap

>>211943351
Ryan Kwanten being licked by Dane DeHaan was kino.

>>211958931
Yeah, there are a handful of anthology series, but I meant I wish that was more of like a standard model. Partially to keep shows from running forever on life support, but also to ensure that the audience will actually get a full story. It's awful when a show you're into gets cancelled on a cliffhanger because the producers were counting on getting another season. Making the anthology or limited series format the norm would be nice because networks would commit to telling a full (albeit shorter) story.

>>211958944
hip hop rap shit is an essential part of poorfag america

>>211958944
I'm with you. I love the slide guitar/banjo thing. I think they could have just used the instrumental track they use for the end credits at the beginning and it would be straight kino.
That said, the series is really fantastic.

>>211958992
NTA, but I'm not against hip hop in general. I just don't think it's a great choice for this specific musical context.

>>211958670
>Yellowstone
What if we made Succession, but for boomers and with cowboys and horses spinning around in circles?

>>211943267 (OP)
Banshee is small town/rural PA

>>211943477
I stopped after the guy with the eyepatch attacked the prison. Shit just got boring.

I was surprised to find out literally no one had watched this after I finished it.

>>211953333
>Marty you have 23.1 nanoseconds to launder 30 billion dollars and stop the feds' investigation
also quads checked.

>>211954264
>>211955458
It's good don't listen to chuds that can't handle black characters existing

>>211943267 (OP)
Not the south, but if you like justified, you will like longmire. Honestly it’s more comfy.

>>211961425
the prison was the definitive filter, you either realized it's shit or you kept masochistically forcing yourself through each new season.
but to be honest it started to get shit in season two already.
them dicking around on that farm and arguing like retarded children for a whole ass season was excruciating to watch.
everything afterwards was just more of the same crap

>>211958052
is it good ?
I got bad vibes from idpol in literally first sentence and first scene at the airport

>>211961932
I read the comics when they were still fresh before the show. It had its moments.

But holy shit the show is trash. It’s practically a web teen drama with how much drama bullshit they forced in.

I barely watched it after season 2, but there were a few good one off episodes. One where they Stumble upon a town with heads on spikes and there’s a crazy guy. The episode was self contained, one off and well done. Why the fuck can’t we just have a zombie show with one off monster of the week adventures in the world? Is that so fucking hard? Instead we get ‘the oc’ zombie edition.

>>211961993
>zombie show with one off monster of the week adventures in the world
that's pretty much season 1 summed up.
insane to think how much they travelled, met all kinds of folks and drove the plot forward within mere six (6) episodes.

>>211961595
Good suggestion, thanks!
Ike guessing since you’re suggesting it, you found it worthwhile?

>>211961969
It’s about the first black female FBI agent. I don’t think you can make a show like that without having identity politics being at least a part of it.

>>211962232
Remember when they tried to get that fat bloated zombie out of the well but accidentally cut him in half with the rope? Still a fucking hilarious scene.

>>211961236
Stop, I can only get so erect!

>>211962315
Generally I thought it was a really good show. Pretty compelling and had a few kino performances. For an early 2020s Amazon show about a white woman travelling around the wild west with a native it is a shockingly non-woke.

>>211943267 (OP)

>>211948126
Coming from a fresh rewatch of BrBa I'd say Justified is honestly better. Breaking Bad has funny moments and big drama moments but they only hit hard once for me. When I rewatched it after 10 years I just didn't really get it the second time, so many characters act fucking retarded for no reason other than to further the plot. Then there's just the utter lack of suspension of disbelief, any gringo trying to sell crystal on cartel territory would be fucking skinned alive or end up like Tortuga.

>>211961916
longmire is comfy as fuck!

>>211961969
>is it good ?
>I got bad vibes from idpol
It is not bad. I don't have a tolerance for forced diversity. But, at certain places and times only black people make sense and that is ok. The only thing so far, and it is not bad enough for me to stop watching, is that the strong, black, woman don't need no man to get shit done and keeps outwitting her white make coworkers that are trying to undermine her. There is also a viva la raza female trucker unionization subplot. You can fast forward through that shit if you like, it makes no difference. Overall pretty good, I have watch every episode so far.

>>211961312
>>211949722
>>211950322
>>211954010
>>211954066
>>211954391
Banshee is fantastic as a binge watch. Importantly, it does not fall to shit in the later seasons like almost every other show on this post and it has a decent ending. It also showcases some of the 10/10 pre-metoo tits and ass in all of hollywood. Plenty of ass-kicking, hot chicks, interesting characters and plots. Out of the entire series, I think maybe the motorcycle gang episode was weak, because of the faggiest fag that ever fagged being the "leader". Other than that I don't even mind the tranny or the one-man-army women. It is worth it!

no one mentioned reacher season 1 yet wtf

>>211944136
SALLAD?

>>211963849
seconding this. banshee is insanely entertaining and only a few slips ups. sure there's a decline in quality but it never goes below

>>211964748
>goes below
*below 7/10

>>211949605
the first season with the wendigo witch and the extremist separatists was fine then they just had to add some comically evil white guy and it went down the shitter as every other modern show after season 1