Thread 211949878 - /tv/ [Archived: 1100 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:19:11 AM No.211949878
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>*destroys the prosecution's case in your path*
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:23:08 AM No.211950032
>All I'm saying is its possible demonically possessed aliens killed the boys father, made the old man experience lost time, and made the old lady hallucinate a hellish vision of the boy stabbing his father.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:23:46 AM No.211950056
>>211949878 (OP)
>all evidence points to the black guy
>yeah but what if he didn't do it ahhhhhh didn't think of that did you?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:23:48 AM No.211950059
Fonda did it.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:25:49 AM No.211950151
>>211949878 (OP)
jesus christ can’t you retards just enjoy a good drama for once and stop being miserable
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:27:46 AM No.211950218
>>211949878 (OP)
Black on black violence ain't my problem.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:29:09 AM No.211950286
>>211949878 (OP)
I thought it was good to do due diligence. But I’m autistic I don’t care about race I care about being right absolutely. Everyone but the non racist didn’t care about being right

Star Trek TNG is the best Star Trek btw
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:29:10 AM No.211950287
hf
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>All I'm saying is its possible Leslie Tiller tripped and fell on her own shears!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:29:40 AM No.211950310
>>211950151
>oy vey stop asking questions goyim just consume product
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:30:57 AM No.211950361
No Ivan I don't want an authoritarian justice system where everyone is automatically guilty. Yes Ivan we know this is another influence thread.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:34:59 AM No.211950528
>All I'm saying is I broke the law by going out and buying a knife and then bringing it back here to try and sway you a--
>HEY WHY ARE YOU CALLING SECURITY?!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:35:21 AM No.211950545
>that old man can't be trusted, he's just looking for attention!
how in the fuck did the other jurors buy into this bullshit?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:36:52 AM No.211950640
Kino flick
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:36:53 AM No.211950641
based daddy
based daddy
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>>211949878 (OP)
>YOU WORK YOUR LIFE OUT FOR THEM
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:37:55 AM No.211950709
>>211950310
>aaaagvghhhhh you disagree with me therefore you’re da jooooooo!
stfu nigger
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:45:06 AM No.211951039
>>211950151
Can't you bootlickers let people talk about an allegedly good drama for once and stop uncritically fellating its makers?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:47:20 AM No.211951140
Have the KGB figured out that every American watches this movie in civics class and are trying to undermine its lesson? Is that what these threads are about?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:49:39 AM No.211951245
>>211951140
>you need to blatantly undermine the legal system in order to get your desired outcome
yeah, great lesson. Go away. I'd have reported that fuck to the bailiff for conducting his own investigation and betraying his duty as a juror
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:52:40 AM No.211951388
>>211950361
Is Ivan in the thread with us?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:53:22 AM No.211951416
the fact that a sizable number of people argue that THIS is the greatest movie of all time has soured it somewhat for me. Regardless (and putting that subjective feeling aside), Dog Day Afternoon mogs in every conceivable way.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:53:28 AM No.211951421
>>211951388
Ivan went away the last time I took my meds. I don't want him to leave, he's my only friend.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:54:43 AM No.211951482
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>>211949878 (OP)
>>211950032
>>211950056
>>211950059
>>211950151
>>211950286
>>211950528
>>211950545
>>211950640
>>211951140
https://thelampmagazine.com/issues/issue-23-trinity/honest-dishonesty-12-angry-men
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:57:20 AM No.211951616
>>211951039
every thread relating to any movie has become exactly like this one though, I’m not even a fan of that movie but so many of you are such “contrarian” faggots that it loops back around to this bloc of tired, played out “insights” and “opinions” about something (applying to literally every topic discussed on this board) that you get to pretend is fresh and edgy because you’re reading it on le ebin based 4chanss :D
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:59:54 AM No.211951736
>>211951616
I guess I’m just a kike bootlicker though because you want to rehearse the same shitty thread again
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:00:23 AM No.211951753
>>211951616
you big dum dum
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:02:11 AM No.211951838
>>211951616
i wish i was smarter than everyone else, just like you.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:06:25 AM No.211952014
>>211951616
So you're embittered to the point of seeing every discussion as a competition in contrarianism. How is this anyone's problem other than your own? Go outside.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:09:22 AM No.211952163
>I came to a board for discussing movies and people are discussing movies?
>no!! how can this be?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:13:16 AM No.211952360
>>211951140
>Have the KGB figured out that every American watches this movie in civics class and are trying to undermine its lesson?
This movie was made by a literal Jewish communist
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:17:08 AM No.211952533
>>211951838
It’s burdensome being a genius up here at the top…
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:17:44 AM No.211952563
>>211949878 (OP)
Loving brother status: not happy
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:18:51 AM No.211952640
There's no way that lady could have seen the kid kill his father because she had dents in her face even though her being shallow and wanting to look good wouldn't have covered these marks up
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:19:20 AM No.211952666
justice
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>No Ivan I don't want an authoritarian justice system where everyone is automatically guilty
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:19:31 AM No.211952677
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1. Prince of the City
2. The Hill
3. 12 Angry Men
4. Fail Safe
5. The Verdict
6. Network
7. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
8. Long Day's Journey into Night
9. The Offence
10. Murder on the Orient Express
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:23:05 AM No.211952866
>>211952014
Not really, as I see it it’s more of a joint exercise in contrarianism, a bunch of people are coming together and saying things that “(((they)))” would hate, and patting each other on the backs for being so brave. I’m only as bitter as the rest of you. It is my problem, and I’ll gladly air it.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:28:31 AM No.211953124
>yeah bro lets just offhandedly dismiss all the evidence and wildly speculate about the witnesses real motives, that's how justice works
Shit flick that's only appreciate by midwits. That one juror going out and buying the knife himself should have been grounds for him getting kicked out of the jury on the spot but nobody seems to care.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:32:20 AM No.211953294
>>211953124
>That one juror going out and buying the knife himself should have been grounds for him getting kicked out of the jury on the spot but nobody seems to care.
Its called Juror Misconduct and in the case of 12 Angry Men that juror would have been found in contempt of court and jailed. Then they would have retried the kid with a new jury who would convict him. The movie makes a mockery of the justice system
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:35:19 AM No.211953435
>>211952866
It's so brave of you for taking a principled stand against talking about movies in the board for talking about movies by pretending everyone is as bad as you admit to being. Let me pat you on the back.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:35:54 AM No.211953460
>>211950640
It's a mid filmed static stageplay, just like every other pre-New Hollywood “classic”. The 1997 TV remake directed by William Friedkin with Jack Lemmon and Gandolfini is a much better movie.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:45:03 AM No.211953811
>>211951482
30 something paragraphs just to say "pertaining to law, one should empty himself completely and be 100% objective".
"Liberal Man incarnate" is accurate because that's utterly fucking impossible. feigning a total absence of humanity is a key tenet of liberal thought.
that professor should have killed himself 7 decades ago. (You) too, you mindless mass-replying sperg.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:46:54 AM No.211953898
>>211952666
Guy in the bottom right had it the worst. Wasn't even involved in it in any way, he just recorded what happened with his camera and they still gave him a life sentence.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:47:47 AM No.211953937
>>211952666
jew vet on the top right genuinely did nothing wrong. if you think that level of self defense shouldnt be permissible, you want to live under law that's obviously evil.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:49:55 AM No.211954026
>>211953898
>>211953937
Who are they? I only recognize Chauvin.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:52:26 AM No.211954147
>>211949878 (OP)
As a kid I thought this movie was cool, now that I watch it back its simply too retarded. It pretends to have some deep message. While in reality is stupidly questions (the justice system)?
Father was killed at his own house with his own son's knife, multiple witneses. And the kid claims to have been at the cinema at the time yet can't name the movie or anything releated to it.

This is not some deep philosophical drama as normies love to think.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:56:14 AM No.211954305
They have to show it to you in school to program you, because it wouldn't work otherwise. When you watch it as an adult now, Juror 8 comes off as either insane or having a hidden agenda. If this was a modern A24 movie, you would be expecting a twist revealing how he's either the real killer playing some game, or somehow in cahoots with the kid. The movie literally doesn't work otherwise because he obviously acts as a biased agitator and manipulates the trial.

But people in the 1950s were literally retarded because of all the lead in paint and gasoline fumes, so this mickey mouse stuff worked on them like a charm and now 75 years later body spray and steaks in the supermarket have anti-theft locks on them.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:02:26 AM No.211954553
>>211954305
curious as to how many high school graduates saw this at some point in a classroom
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CreepyThinMan
6/25/2025, 8:16:34 AM No.211955088
>>211949878 (OP)

I fucking HATE this fucking movie and anyone of you cocsuckers who keep bringing this up every other fucking day with this bullshit.

People who defend it scream "REASONABLE DOUBT, REASONABLE DOUBT!!!" that the "child" (who was 17) didn't kill his Father yet no one asks Henry Fonda "Okay, if he didn't do it then who did?".

And the answer I get from you cunts is always the same "That's not his job to find out!" yet it's also not his job to conduct his own investigation and act like a defense attorney while you go dead silent the second that you bring up that he pulled out a fucking switchblade in a jury room which would have had him arrested while also possible jury tampering as you have to wonder why he was soo adamant to prove the legal adults innocence?

The entire movie is left wing propaganda while even the title shows its bias. Calling it 12 ANGRY MEN is meant to imply that juries don't make decisions on the evidence beforehand, it's just men who want to take their anger out on poor innocent people while the 17 year old adult clearly killed his father.

No alibi, claims to have been at the cinema watching a movie, can't name the movie, also, no one asks him what theater he went to despite that he was most likely arrested soon after.

An investigator would take his picture to every surrounding theater and ask whoever was working there if they recognized him, while this would have been most likely done within 24-48 hours afterwards, meaning that the staff could have easily identified him.

Also, every fucking time defenders of this shit ignore that a man was murdered, someone did it and it was clearly his son. Now, to be fair, if Fonda's character asked "Did the police look into any possible other suspects who might have had a reason to kill him? and they said no then you could argue that they didn't do their due diligence and only charged the son because he was the easiest target rather than conducting a proper investigation.
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CreepyThinMan
6/25/2025, 8:18:05 AM No.211955144
>>211955088

I could get by an argument like that.

But no one does so fuck this movie while he spends the entire time saying he COULDN'T have done by attacking the evidence but never outrights says he DIDN'T do it and why he thinks so!

In conclusion, shove this thread up your gaping semen glazed crumb encrusted shitpipe, that is if there's enough room next to your Dad's dick and Mom's strap-on

So fuck you OP while following the tradition of being a colossal faggot, something never seen before, like a black astronaut riding a fucking unicorn!!!FACT!!!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:34:00 AM No.211955800
>>211954026
Bottom right is William Bryan from the Ahmaud Arbery case.
A black guy was lurking around a construction site in a neighborhood he didn't live in, a white father and son approached him to see what he was up to, black guy took off running, father and son followed him in their truck, guy in the pic followed nearby with his cell phone to record it, they catch up to the black guy, son has a shotgun he tries to citizen arrest the black guy with, black guy runs towards him, grabs the shotgun, tries to wrestle it towards the son, son resists and fires the gun, black guy dies, and all 3 white guys were charged with murder and sentenced
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:34:04 AM No.211955805
>>211954026
Top right is Daniel Penny, the guy who took down the black dude on the subway who was threatening people, and held him in an extremely loose RNC until cops arrived, and the black dude later died in custody so the DA charged him with criminally negligent homicide. He was acquitted.

Top left is Daniel Perry, the guy who during the BLM riots was working as an uber driver and shot and killed a guy carrying an AK who ran up on his driver side door as he tried to get through the crowd. He was charged and convicted of murder but subsequently pardoned.

Bottom right was William Bryan, one of the three men associated with the death of Ahmaud Arbery. He along with the McMichaels were found guilty of murder and federal hate crimes. His case is notable because he had no direct physical association with Arbery's death either as a perpetrator of the killing or as a driver, but because he was present filming the altercation he got roped in on the felony murder statute. Ironically if he hadn't filmed the altercation, none of them likely would have done time and he 100% wouldn't have caught felony murder charges. They all got life sentences.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:35:46 AM No.211955867
>>211953811
You pooped your pants and didn't read it
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:37:56 AM No.211955946
>>211951482
you mass reply fuck. Fuck you
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:44:51 AM No.211956161
>>211950641
he's so kino I perform his dramatic monologue for auditions even though I'm a 25 year old man
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:49:44 AM No.211956294
>>211949878 (OP)
>Listen he probably did it but we can't hold minorities to our standards so they should get a pass
Liberal Guilt: The Movie
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:43:11 AM No.211957747
>>211950286
>Star Trek TNG is the best Star Trek btw
True.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:49:42 AM No.211957921
>>211951482
>If laws could be made without reference to substantive concerns, if laws could be entirely formal—without hostages to disputable contents—no one could claim that they were tainted by partisan interests, and you could obey them without committing yourself to anything. Are there such laws? What would they be like? Well, they would be like the law commanding you (and me and everyone else) to drive on the right side of the road (or on the left in the United Kingdom), or like the rule in a supermarket line or in a line to purchase a train ticket that you must wait your turn; you don’t get to go to the front of the line because you are wealthy
Stopped reading there. The wealthy are literally above the law. They're out there fucking children without any repercussions. They buy nationalities, they can buy people. So fuck that idealist essay.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:53:42 AM No.211958039
>>211955800
>A black guy was lurking around a construction site in a neighborhood he didn't live in

No. Things had been getting stolen from the street and Arbery had been seen on security footage snooping around. He had previously claimed to be jogging when confronted. /pol/ began mocking this excuse by referring to him as 'the jogger'.

It then came out that he was known by local store owners as well for hanging outside their businesses, pretending to be taking a break from jogging, then running in and stealing stuff before making his escape. So it turned out he really was the jogger. A serial thief who used jogging as his cover story.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:56:56 AM No.211958134
>>211956294
I'd been enjoying watching old movies with the belief I was free of that bullshit up until seeing this.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:14:19 AM No.211958607
>>211955800
they deserved to get arrested, they killed this guy by not being properly trained to handle the situation. citizens arrest my ass.
trying to play police yourself is a retarded idea, especially when the suspect is already running away. scare the nigger off and give the video evidence to the actual police, they will get him sooner or later, no need to throw your own life away for this petty theft shit.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:16:00 AM No.211958657
>>211958607
>they deserved to get arrested
I agree, but they also got life in prison which is unwarranted
I'd give them 5 years and nothing to the guy filming
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:24:38 AM No.211958852
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>>211951140
Who do you think made this movie.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:30:05 AM No.211958965
>>211956294
It's not even “liberal” it's straight up Anarchist propaganda
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:31:44 AM No.211958995
>>211952666
wasn't top right acquitted?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:33:21 AM No.211959025
>>211958995
He shouldn't have been charged with murder in the first place
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:33:32 AM No.211959028
>>211954553
I did a reading of it in school in 5th grade, but I was in a gifted students program.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:35:22 AM No.211959072
>>211955088
>"Okay, if he didn't do it then who did?".
that's not his job to find out. In the US criminal justice system a trial is not a search for truth, it is about whether the prosecution has proven that the accused is guilty. A person can be acquitted at trial even if they don't call a single witness or ask a single question on cross examination.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:38:03 AM No.211959134
>>211959025
Same with the Boy in 12 Angry Men. He came back from the movie theatre and found the cops at his place. The cops then arrested him as a suspect. When they talked to the neighbours (who probably knew the boy was arrested) the neighbours simply confirmed the plice story.

The movie isn't about "justice", it is about unreliability of people as witnesses. Pretty sure that today you cannot convict anyone on witness statement's alone.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:39:10 AM No.211959154
>>211959025
I agree, but his acquittal completely disproves the greentext and shows that the US criminal justice system actually works. In an authoritarian system as soon as the prosecutor decided to charge him that would be that. No fair trial, no jury. I thought DA Bragg made a serious mistake by charging the guy, but after a fair trial a jury decided his actions were reasonable and he was freed.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:39:56 AM No.211959167
>>211959072
>That's not his job to find out
Juror 8 literally conducted a highly illegal extrajudicial investigation and introduced new evidence, bypassing the defense and prosecution during jury deliberations. Even in the 1950s this would've caused a mistrial at the minimum. This movie is retarded at best, at worst it's a clearly subversive agitprop aimed at destabilizing the American justice system.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:42:35 AM No.211959206
>>211959154
>this one guy BARELY got lucky in this highly politicized case, this mean the system works !
so true
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:46:17 AM No.211959267
>>211959206
and the goalposts have been moved
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:46:29 AM No.211959271
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:55:19 AM No.211959405
>>211959134
>it is about unreliability of people as witnesses
No, it's about a provocateur abusing the concept of reasonable doubt to throw a trial
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:12:22 AM No.211959686
>>211957921
you have poor reading comprehension. The writer is positing a hypothetical.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:13:23 AM No.211959708
>>211955946
gay boy
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:03:36 PM No.211960487
>>211959134
>Pretty sure that today you cannot convict anyone on witness statement's alone.
All you need to convict is to establish means, motive and opportunity, which no one else in the movie except the Kid had.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:12:53 PM No.211960617
interesting how the safest country in the world doesn't have jury trials
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:17:38 PM No.211960690
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>>211950059
Lock him up!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:09:05 PM No.211961360
>>211960487
>>211959405
These. But he isn't a provocateur. His motives are clear from the start. He decided that the Boy is the victim of his father's abuse
>he beat him from when he was 5 years old, beat him with fists
Then the baseball juror makes a joke about it
>I would too, a kid like that huh
So you don't dwell on what was said for too long. Morally, Henry Fonda was right, legally, the other jurors were right.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:49:52 PM No.211962068
Am I the only one who actually liked this movie and enjoyed pondering about the questions Fondas character asked?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:07:15 PM No.211962359
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so heckin epic
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:01:25 PM No.211963377
>>211949878 (OP)
Daily reminder 4chan would have been the angry guy wanting to condemn him just because they hate people for their own mistakes in life
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:12:02 PM No.211963600
>>211949878 (OP)
crazy how 12 dudes managed to ''solve'' a case in just a few hours
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:13:58 PM No.211963638
>>211955805
>Bottom right was William Bryan, one of the three men associated with the death of Ahmaud Arbery. He along with the McMichaels were found guilty of murder and federal hate crimes. His case is notable because he had no direct physical association with Arbery's death either as a perpetrator of the killing or as a driver, but because he was present filming the altercation he got roped in on the felony murder statute. Ironically if he hadn't filmed the altercation, none of them likely would have done time and he 100% wouldn't have caught felony murder charges. They all got life sentences.
This one is genuinely disturbing. Nigger America is a dystopia.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:16:06 PM No.211963680
>>211949878 (OP)
Hanoi Jane said the only time Henry Fonda beat her up is when she said nigger
He beat her up and said don't you ever say that word again

He was woke and political
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:19:42 PM No.211965013
Tvcels still incapable of comprehending what reasonable doubt is. The boy might or might not have done it, but it's no the juror's responsibility to decide unless there is no doubt he is guilty
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:22:38 PM No.211965084
>>211949878 (OP)
>A critique of the American jury system during the McCarthy era

I guess the movie was proven to be a piece of shit then
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:23:03 PM No.211965094
>>211965013
By your retarded standards, no one would ever be convicted. You are an idiot whose understanding of the concept of reasonable doubt is even worse than the scriptwriters'.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:23:59 PM No.211965125
>>211949878 (OP)
wouldnt the defense have figured all of this out? i dont think the jury is supposed to play court like that, especially if they cant verify anything themselves
Replies: >>211965624
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:31:37 PM No.211965299
>>211960487
>motive
I don't think you actually have to establish that. It certainly wasn't established in the Chauvin trial. If you can prove someone did something I don't think you actually need an explanation for why they did it.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:34:51 PM No.211965376
>>211952866
Why do you think contrarianism is real?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:36:58 PM No.211965433
>>211962068
No. These are regular raid threads made by a poltard trying to influence western people into accepting fascism.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:42:12 PM No.211965574
>>211959167
Jurors can’t introduce evidence. Introducing evidence is a process between the attorneys and the judge. A juror having an object similar to introduced evidence doesn’t magically become evidence.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:44:25 PM No.211965624
>>211965125
The kid had a public defender who, even then, would’ve been so overworked he couldn’t do anything.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:46:54 PM No.211965698
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>>211959167
>at worst it's a clearly subversive agitprop aimed at destabilizing the American justice system
You're right Larry. The reptilian hand rubbing shadow cabal government is systematically targeting writers and demanding they destabilize the world order, forcing them to lie about their inspirations for stories, and making them keep their secrets until their death. And only you know the truth, and by voicing that truth here online, you'll stop this evil cabal of lunatic subversive agitprop left wing psychos who definitely exist and whose sole aim to destabilize the country and the government through microdoses of propaganda spread over 80 to 100 years.
Replies: >>211965853 >>211968971 >>211970683
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:51:12 PM No.211965826
>211965698
B8 or plebbit levels of smug ignorance, no (You) for you, retarded faggot
Replies: >>211965853
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:52:04 PM No.211965853
>>211965826
Whoops, seems you forgot how to link posts, here, I got ya >>211965698
Replies: >>211966564
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:58:05 PM No.211966033
>>211949878 (OP)
is it established how many in the jury are jews?? if all 12 of them are jews then the movie makes sense
Replies: >>211966083
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:59:46 PM No.211966083
>>211966033
If all 12 were Jews they’d still be in deliberations
Replies: >>211966124
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:01:25 PM No.211966124
>>211966083
antisemantic
Replies: >>211966151
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:02:13 PM No.211966151
>>211966124
But not incorrect
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:05:48 PM No.211966247
>>211949878 (OP)
This movie is shown in law schools to teach students how a jury is NOT supposed to work
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:17:05 PM No.211966556
>>211951616
>I'm not even a fan of the movie so let me argue at length about it
You're part of the problem.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:17:26 PM No.211966564
>>211965853
Thanks!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:20:03 PM No.211966640
>>211949878 (OP)
It's not a terrible movie, as it does entertain. But it tries a bit too hard to push a point of view, and doesn't really execute it very well, imo.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 5:52:36 PM No.211967600
>>211952360
>communist
No?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:26:29 PM No.211968614
>>211950151
>good drama
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:28:56 PM No.211968687
>>211952677
>The Hill
very kino. i love prison movies
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:30:23 PM No.211968736
>>211951140
Our city streets are unsafe. The message of the movie was tested on our nation and the ideas were proven wrong. I don't need a Russian to tell me that.
Replies: >>211972571
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:32:47 PM No.211968813
>>211950310
I sometimes wonder how it feels like to be this schizophrenic about a movie that came out in the 60's.
Replies: >>211968866 >>211969015
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:34:34 PM No.211968866
>>211968813
In the 60s Mossad assassinated the president of the United States. History didn't begin when you were born. The problems we have now didn't start in 2014
Replies: >>211968934
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:35:37 PM No.211968898
>>211958607
You're the worst in this thread. Men should absolutely police their own community. They did nothing wrong. If they handed it over to the cops and sat in their cuck chair waiting for justice nothing would have happened and he probably would have gotten worse and worse.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:36:34 PM No.211968934
>>211968866
Jews didn’t kill jfk, John Paul Getty did.
Replies: >>211969340
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:37:58 PM No.211968971
>>211965698
You are so fucking dumb and retarded. Someone points out an obvious trend
>It must be the reptilians who control everything! Put on your tinfoil hat so they don't steal your dreams!
How are there still retards of this caliber
Replies: >>211969463
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:39:27 PM No.211969015
>>211968813
I bet you think 'wokeness' started in 2012 and everything was just... totally apolitical or something before that.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:41:56 PM No.211969090
>>211950056
It really never even crossed my mind.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:43:40 PM No.211969146
1637355669253
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md5: f3bc031293ebbf99dcd6a0cbce9eddf9🔍
>tfw lawyer mommy is sitting on your lap
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:50:32 PM No.211969340
>>211968934
It was LBJ. This has been conclusively established by the mid 1980s. He was the only actor with the means, motive and opportunity to put this thing together. People from his inner circle have gone on record to confirm he greenlit JFK. Before the assassination people tried to warn JFK that he was stepping on LBJ too much, that he wasn't some joke, and that this won't end for him. Secret Service and his advisors literally told him not to go to Dallas because it was Johnson's home turf and that's where it would happen. This is literally on record. Kennedy was just too fried from all the drugs Dr. Feelgood was injecting him with, so he thought people were joking or something.

All gobbledygook about Israel has been invented wholesale decades later along with other trailerpark conspiraslop to muddy the waters so feeble-minded Ameriburgers continue to regurgitate misdirection and never deal with what actually happened.
Replies: >>211969540
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:54:16 PM No.211969463
>>211968971
What are you talking about? That dumbass nigger I replied to really believes 12 Angry Men is woke propaganda to destabilize the American justice system. Next time read the post train before replying.
Replies: >>211970126
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:56:22 PM No.211969540
>>211969340
>from all the drugs Dr. Feelgood was injecting him
and, eehm, who exactly was this Dr. Feelgood?
I suppose he was a postborn pureblood texan, rite
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:56:22 PM No.211969541
>>211950056
a british alt comedian wrote this post
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:14:04 PM No.211970126
>>211969463
Obviously it was. Do you think Hollywood isn't propaganda? Why is what he said wrong?
Replies: >>211970683 >>211972611
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:21:07 PM No.211970366
>>211950056
The kid wasn't black.
Replies: >>211972604
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:26:04 PM No.211970541
I was in a jury once and another juror told me it was basically mandatory to watch 12 Angry Men because it had everything you'd ever needed to know about jury dutying.
Replies: >>211970610
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:27:50 PM No.211970610
>>211970541
Every juror thinking to himself "I'm literally Henry Fonda's character".
Replies: >>211970642
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:28:41 PM No.211970642
>>211970610
Ivan....
Replies: >>211970784
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:30:01 PM No.211970683
>>211970126
>>211965698
Replies: >>211970739
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:31:33 PM No.211970739
>>211970683
So you're a redditbrained commie retard, I know. Why are you here?
Replies: >>211970968
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:33:00 PM No.211970784
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md5: 942af91c70ff27f85588db4db8c5fb6a🔍
>>211970642
? I'm Finnish bro
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:39:00 PM No.211970968
>>211970739
Larry...
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:57:06 PM No.211971668
Decades later and convictards are STILL seething
>wait you went out and easily found the same knife we li-I mean told you was one of a kind?
>y-you can't do that!
If the prosecutor said the sky is green and Juror #8 looked out the window theyd be calling for his head
>please pay no attention to the old man taking five minutes to hobble to the witness stand
>no no NO I said ignore that you're only supposed to listen to what I told him to say STOP NOTICING THINGS
Also I never see convictards try and deflect how the elevated train btfos most of the witnesses
Replies: >>211971813 >>211971916
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:00:51 PM No.211971813
>>211971668
Who else could or wanted to kill the father?
Replies: >>211971869
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:01:29 PM No.211971845
Screenshot 2025-06-25 105756
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>All I'm saying is that it's POSSIBLE Karmelo Anthony didn't stab that kid in broad daylight
>He's a mere 17 years old, a wee child
>Just look at this photo of him in a suit
>Would a person wearing a suit really stab someone?
>Why, we simply can't convict him solely based on the video, murder weapon, witnesses, motive, and DNA evidence
>What if Austin Metcalf stabbed himself, and simply framed this poor innocent black child because he is a racist, did you guys ever think of that, huh?
>All of the witnesses were probably just attention whores, too.

Imagine being on a jury with the 2025 equivalent of Henry Fonda and tell me you wouldn't want to strangle the life out of him for being such an obnoxious liberal faggot and wasting your entire day.
Replies: >>211972623
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:02:20 PM No.211971869
>>211971813
A trillion potential people from his long past that I know nothing about?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:03:26 PM No.211971916
>>211971668
>Motive
>Means
>Opportunity
>Previous history
>Lack of verifiable alibi
Convicted, done. Anything else literally doesn't matter, the whole rigamaroo about knife not being some kind of unique relic doesn't mean anything.
Replies: >>211971947
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:04:14 PM No.211971947
>>211971916
I noticed you didn't include anything remotely coming close to "evidence he actually did it"
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:09:55 PM No.211972175
>>211971947
>"evidence he actually did it"
can u explain what this means???
because philosophically speaking a trial set past the events which has happened can never provide 100% foolproof evidence... so what's wrong with

>motive
>means
>previous history
>no alibi
>opportunity

why are these not evidence?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:13:36 PM No.211972314
>>211971947
… If you have established all of the above, and the defense can't argue against it, evidence literally isn't required for conviction. You don't actually know how the legal system works, do you?
Replies: >>211972501 >>211972550
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:19:19 PM No.211972501
>>211972314
The defense just didn’t argue against it, was the point of the movie. The prosecution making an easily verified falsehood part of their case would’ve meant near instant acquittal.
Replies: >>211972823
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:20:52 PM No.211972550
>>211972314
NTA but I thought you needed some actual evidence to convict someone of murder, not just a "here's list of reasons why he could've done it". Like the eyewitness testimony in this case. Without that, and having the same knife, they're just arguing about motives and opportunities, and other people not in the courtroom could've had those too. I thought you had to actually prove somehow that the defendant did it. Would he even be charged if they had no proof?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:21:45 PM No.211972571
>>211968736
>Our city streets are unsafe.
Because of guns.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:22:46 PM No.211972604
>>211970366
One drop rule.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:22:54 PM No.211972611
>>211970126
He was a stand-in for Leo Frank
>>211950056
>>211956294
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:23:11 PM No.211972623
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>>211971845

It's impossible for a person of color to do anything wrong, chud
Replies: >>211973080
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:23:30 PM No.211972629
>>211961360
He was a morally wrong as he was factually wrong
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:24:16 PM No.211972651
knife 1
knife 1
md5: 3aedbfc28de09de709762a61c511bc8d🔍
>The murder weapon was a switchblade?
>Haha that's funny, I happen to have one exactly like it
>Where did I get it?
>Oh, I was just out and about in the exact same neighborhood in which this heinous murder took place
>Yes my friends, the stab wounds on the victim could easily be from a knife exactly like this one I currently have in my possession
>Why, someone, perhaps a complete stranger, could have broken into the boy's house, stabbed his father several times, and then escaped
>It could be literally anyone, even someone in this very room
>I would even go so far as to say that the sick, twisted sociopath would probably get off from being in the courtroom during that boy's trial
>Perhaps masturbating through his pocket while sitting on the jury
>A killer that deranged would probably argue that the boy was innocent, for no other reason than to anger his fellow jurors and see their reactions
>I bet he's even wearing women's underwear under his suit right now, that psychotic bastard
>Yes, there's no doubt we're dealing with a handsome genius here, a narcissist probably
>The real killer is still out there, obviously much more clever than the police, and certainly all of you put together
Replies: >>211972698
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:25:18 PM No.211972698
>>211972651
Bravo Nolan
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:25:42 PM No.211972713
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>>211962359
I watched the TV movie remake of this after it was praised in a /tv/ thread, and it's so funny to me that they replaced the racist white guy with a brotherhood of islam black dude. George C Scott was so kino in it.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:28:46 PM No.211972823
>>211972501
what if the defense asked the slimeball kid if he did it and the kid said "yes"?
would it be a fair trial if the defense argued against it then?
Replies: >>211975909
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:35:01 PM No.211973078
>>211949878 (OP)
>multiple witnesses
>lol jk they're old or some other character assassination
>perp had knife, now it's missing
>HEY LOOK I FOUND A KNIFE JUST LIKE IT WHO CARES IF HIS IS MISSING?
>alibi is so shit he can't even give you a title to the movie or even the most basic plot synopsis(this is why people misremember him as a black because of how fucking retarded he sounds)
>people don't goto the movies to watch movies are you crazy?

Peter Fonda is a fucking kike
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:35:03 PM No.211973080
>>211972623
It really is impossible for a person of color to do anything wrong lmao thanks j*nnies
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:34:34 PM No.211975344
IVAN!!!!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:37:19 PM No.211975446
How much money does it take to keep /pol threads up over 12 hours?
Replies: >>211975771
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:45:03 PM No.211975771
>>211975446
I work for the JIAF and I earn about $5 / hour
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:46:36 PM No.211975841
>>211949878 (OP)
ok, for real... I've the vote was 11 vs 1 not guilty.. would you do the reverse-Fonda and say
>hey, what if he actually did it???
or would re-cancel yourself, unguilty the spic and go home??
Replies: >>211975980 >>211976667
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:47:36 PM No.211975892
>>211949878 (OP)
ivan?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:47:59 PM No.211975909
>>211972823
probably look up the definition of "a fair trial."
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:49:52 PM No.211975980
>>211975841
that would mean the case against was absolute dogshit
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:06:01 PM No.211976667
>>211975841
I would pay good money to watch a 2025 remake of this movie where a guilty black guy is on trial but he has an amazing lawyer, so one determined man slowly makes 11 liberals more and more racist over time until they all agree to execute him.
Replies: >>211976784 >>211976994 >>211978996
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:08:40 PM No.211976784
>>211976667
this but with all female jurors
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:13:45 PM No.211976994
>>211976667
they've made like six movies about the oj trial tho
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:04:45 PM No.211978996
>>211976667
off by one