I want to talk about this show. You can say whatever you want and ignore me but I have my own questions and thoughts to share:

I don't understand why everyone in the show automatically slips into the idea that an innie and an outie are two different people. I don't feel like that would be a normal perception to have for the average person. I think that's something only an innie would think. The idea seems to be that, because the partition of the person's mind has completely different experiences from the other, they are totally different people. Different consciousnesses in the same body. And this creates the conflict of the show. The innie doesn't want to "die". He doesn't want his individual consciousness to be erased, and he sees it as losing out for the sake of the "outie" which he's in conflict with by the end of the series.

>>211956805 (OP)
I understand that perspective to a degree, but I think even someone with their memory totally erased would understand that they aren't losing out on anything by having full access to their memories once again. You're basically being released from mind prison, and it seems like only an idiot would see it any other way. At the beginning of the show, the "innies" were horrified, trying to escape, and desperately wanted to know what their actual life was outside of the company. They wanted to know who they really were, because they hadn't built up any memories of their own yet. But to me it seems like even after building some of these memories, you would still perceive knowledge of your outside life as infinitely more fucking valuable.

Consider plato's cave allegory, and that's essentially the problem faced by the innies. The ones who are stupid enough to want to stay, are those who are satisfied in their ignorance. Satisfied being completely dependent on their outside consciousness and unable fundamentally understand what the real world is. I think that's MAJORLY fucking gay.

Anyways, I liked the show, and the last episode was interesting but it was basically emotional and phycological torture for the viewer.

>>211956805 (OP)
you missed some fun generals

>>211956921
if this is your evidence then it doesn't seem to be so. did you guys actually talk about the show or was it full of retarded shit

>>211956959
They were 90% shills begging people to watch the show, 9% "that" and 1% morons actually watching the show.

>>211957022
why did you come to my thread

>>211956805 (OP)
Outie Mark considers innie Mark to be a part of him. Innie Mark considers himself a distinct person. This is one of the main topics discussed in the show. Did you even watch it?

>>211956959
kys faggot

>>211957042
my impression was that outie mark considered innie mark to be a distinct person to. but that's not really the point, I don't understand why every innie seemed to unanimously perceive themselves as a distinct person. even without any outside experiences, you would have to understand that what you're experiencing isn't reality. it's a piece cut out of a real life, that you temporarily have zero understand of. i think your desire to understand the outside world would overwhelm your desire to remain distinct from it, which I'm not sure why you would have that feeling in the first place

What I don't understand is why they didn't just go to the police when they had a shitload of evidence for lumon's crime.

>>211957710
because there are no police
if you havent figured out le epic final twist that will 100% be in the final season the entire "world" outside lumin is just another severance simulation

>>211957710
which evidence exactly?
and there are already congressional hearings going on about the severance technology and lumon business practices, its already a battlefield for public opinion. that corporation has already grown too large and too powerful to simply go away by judicial order, the cats already out of the bag.
it would be akin to trying to prosecute and outlaw scientology, theres already plenty of evidence and opinion about them out there too, yet their roots and influence only grow deeper

>>211957145
but they want to experience the outside world, they just can't. from the innies perspective they are a completely new and distinct person, and all living creatures have an innate desire to continue existing

>>211959581
Well their perspective is wrong, their position is more akin to someone who woke up from a coma with amnesia than a new life.

Imagine you wake up with amnesia and you're forced to live in prison. You need a couple people in the prison, and managed to make friends. Then a year or two later someone comes and tells you they can cure your amnesia and free you from the prison simultaneously, but you will then have amnesia for all your prison memories. Who the hell wouldn't go through with that

The generals were fun.

>>211956921
kek, post the diner one

>>211960710
>that stretch between episode 2 and episode 10 where literally nothing happened

>>211960710
the general was more enjoyable than the show

>>211956921
season 1 generals were good.
season 2 generals were bad.

>>211961641
season 2 generals were better than the show

>>211956805 (OP)
Is this show worth watching at this point, or is it one of those things where part of the enjoyment is the week-by-week discussion and I have missed the boat in the regards?

>>211961786
Season 1 is definitely worth watching on it's own, Season 2 you should watch if you crave more after Season 1.

>>211956805 (OP)
>>211956809
Samefag. You responded to OP with a wall of text 13 seconds after he posted. We have timestamps here you retard. Fuck off

>>211956805 (OP)
Should I watch season 2? I really liked season 1 but haven't given S2 a chance out of fear to be disappointed now that the main mysteryboxes have been revealed. Is S2 able to stand on it's own?

I never want to experience something like Westworld S2 again. I'd rather just keep the fond memories of S1 if the rest sucks

>>211962461
absolute retard. you are a literal fucking developmentally disabled monkey idiot.

>>211962512
First few episodes of S2 were fine, then it's a bunch of boring filler episodes and nonsense writing until the mediocre finale

>>211960710
>>211961529
you had to be there

>>211956805 (OP)
I guess it's a bit of a tought experiment. If you learned that 3 hours every night when you went to sleep, you'd wake up and go out and kill people then go back to bed and when you wake up, you have zero memories or even an incling that you've been awake half the night. In your normal day to day, you dont have no ill feelings or wish no harm to anyone. Would you consider that to be 'you' doing the killing?

Legally, they would consider it to be you and unless you could prove that 'you' are unconcious through all of this, you'd be punished for the murders, but you'd still feel like you did nothing wrong and all of this happened outside of your controll and that 'somebody else' was doing the killing.

That's how I see it at least.

>>211962461