Was James Dean gay?

>>211960361 (OP)
Apparently this is something chuds like you are prepared to seethe about but very much so yes
He came on to Marlon Brando so often that Brando got pissed off. This is Brando we’re talking about btw

>>211960361 (OP)
Yes you stupid bigot.
He also said that Black Lives Matter and trans women are real women. Stop asking questions, okay!?

>>211960383
Case in point

>>211960361 (OP)
>Man working in Hollywood
Even if he's not gay he's likely sucked a dick or two. Casting couch isn't monosexual.

Oscar winner incoming

>>211960361 (OP)
James Franco mogs them both

>>211960361 (OP)
>hear rumor
>make movie presenting rumor as true
How is this not character assassination and slkander?

>>211960361 (OP)
No he wasn't gay. He had tons of girlfriends and almost married an actress. All the supposed gay shit comes from the mind of a college buddy he had who wrote a biography about him in which he said they were gay lovers. In other words, his college friend wishes he was gay because he was secretly in love with him and hated that he was always going around dating women. He has tried to make money off his dead friend by saying his own fantasies about him were real. And now they're making a movie acting if its real. Hollywood will rape the corpse of the dead

>>211960483
You’re retarded and wrong, kill yourself

>>211960361 (OP)
He jerked off and ran like a dog after the peak Brando.

>>211960457
You need family or descendants to defend your reputation and estate. Dean has none, was an only child and when he died his estate went to his father. Apparently CMG Worldwide now controls his estate and I imagine they'll happily have him dragged through the mud in any way, shape or form provided they get paid some kind of royalty.

>>211960361 (OP)
>>211960375
didn't you know all your heroes are gay
everyones secretly gay and it's been that way for eternity
the romans were gay, the greeks were gay
even alexander was gay

get used to it chud but we only figured this out in the 1920's during the weimar republic

>>211960361 (OP)
Brandon Flynn is relentlessly handsome.

>>211960509
Nobody is “dragging him through the mud” retard, but thanks for giving everyone context for the type of guy to make up this post >>211960483
You’re literally just upset at the idea and allow it to dictate your perception because you’re low IQ
>>211960519
Homosexualiy was invented by American Democrats in 1920. Good post. By the way, have you tried reading?

Sal Mineo? Gay
Rock Hudson? Gay
John Kennedy? Bi

>>211960519
>get used to it chud but we only figured this out in the 1920's
Or the source material that you didn’t read

All actors are grownup theater kids ofc they're gay

>>211960543
>Nobody is “dragging him through the mud” retard
>gay romance biopic
Yes, they are you, filthy faggot.

>>211960361 (OP)
I literally don't understand what the hype is about this actor. This is not Brandon Lee who died from an interesting accident and his acting was not on the level of Daniel Day-Lewis. He doesn't even have a huge list of cool movies like the actor who played Fredo in The Godfather. He just copied Brando (who hadn't turned into a land whale yet at that point) and had a cute appearance, and that's literally it. Why the fuck is every dumb boomer cunt and homosexual infatuated with this guy?

>>211960361 (OP)
Brandon Flynn was born to play James Dean, look at that face

>>211960570
Your feelings =/= reality, you can find homos gross like every other 100 IQ midwit chud, it doesn’t mean the rest of the world agrees and that depicting a historically bi actor accurately is “dragging him”

>>211960607
You simply want him to be gay just like his college roomate does. Because you think it validates your faggotry

>>211960563
kek you've been scouring the historical canon of ancient greece and rome to find out how gay it was?

>>211960607
>it doesn’t mean the rest of the world agrees
Much of the world probably would agree. But I'm sure those POCs are just backwards midwits or whatever, right?

This is a chud website, btw.

>>211960375
>He came on to Marlon Brando so often that Brando got pissed off
If Dean was nigger, Brando would have immediately gotten on his knees to suck him off

>>211960629

>>211960629
Yeah that’s the obligatory angle for a retard like you to try, but no I’m not gay and I’m not the one wishing away reality.

What does James Dean mean by this

Talk to any gay man about any topic could be fishing could be football the first thing they'll say is "did you know i know a lot of gay fishermen and there's a lot of gay footballers?"
It's like ingrained in their mind to try and normalise their particular sexual orientation.

>>211960631
Or you could just read, let’s say, Plato sometime like most intelligent people who don’t just pretend to be smart online and see him speaking about it at length. Instead you prefer being the typical know-nothing /pol/ chud and embarrassing yourself.

>>211960701
prove it, cite the exact verses from plato that talk about such things in his own words

>>211960695
?? Stop posting dumbass

>>211960361 (OP)
Not only he's gay. He's also head over heels on Brando that he stood outside brando's house in the rain

>>211960681
I don't know, I don't watch gay boomer movies

>>211960714
not an argument

>>211960713
100% not taking the time to spoon feed you, sorry. It’s hilarious that you’re ignorant enough to make that post though like you think it’s speculative and I might be lying, really clarifies what a shit for brains rube you are.

>>211960725
Do you prefer Call Me by Your Name?

James Dean = really handsome is such a boomer meme

>>211960732
You got called out badly. You are the one that isn't well read. Keep trying though.

>>211960695
There’s so many fuckable twinks nowadays, i think they do exist

>>211960756
I don't watch gay zoomer movies either.

>>211960732
here's some shit plato said
>“Male does not unite with male... for it is unnatural.” (Laws 836c)
but it's not up for speculation like you said so I guess case closed gays were heavily frowned upon in ancient greece

>>211960758
This.


Pre-1952 Brando was sexier than James Dean btw.

>>211960762
You are such a fucking embarrassment lol
One place you can start is the Symposium, the entire beginning deals with the difference between honorable love (between men and boys) and vulgar lustful love (between men and women), here’s a random fucking page of the section that consists of thousands of words
Do you feel better now that I’m actually getting up and showing you to your face that you’re retarded? Is this what you really want?

>>211960852
nope he wrote in this >>211960840 in laws so what he was referring to is brotherhood and friendship between men.

for instance
>“There are two kinds of love... One is Common Aphrodite, the other is Heavenly Aphrodite. The love inspired by the former is base and concerned only with the body, while the latter is noble and directed toward the soul.”

he isn't talking about buggering little boys up the arse and getting shit all over your dick acting like a fucking nonce like your twisted mind thinks he's just saying their is a bond between male friends

I can’t believe Democrats in 1920 tried to convince us Achilles and Patroclus were gay!!
Meanwhile, Plato:

>>211960885
Cute try but you don’t even understand what you’re critiquing isn’t Plato’s own words but one perspective in a DIALOGUE, that’s what most of his books are. His books aren’t a Bible of Proverbs directly from Plato like an illiterate pseud would assume when he tries to pretend like he knows what he’s talking about without reading him. Kill yourself.

>>211960893
sounds like a dodgy translation and probably lover meant friend as close to as brother because as he says here >>211960885
one is base concerned with the body lust with women and the other is concerned with the soul the bond of friendship

basically gays are just trying to rewrite history here

>>211960361 (OP)
If there is no hot gay sex I'm not interested

>>211960915
Yeah bro i-it’s a dodgy translation! You should have shut the fuck up and actually read what you’re pretending to know about a long time ago, every post you make only embarrasses you further. I really could not be you for anything. It was inevitable of course that we’d get to the point that you claim the t-translation is Jewed!!

>>211960912
semantics

>also didn't you know that sam was gay for frodo in lord of the rings
said some gay nonce trying to insert their gay nonce shit into another IP

>>211960939
Shit for brains rube

>>211960938
not an argument kek

>>211960361 (OP)
shakespeare was also a gay acherly, and he wasn't also even acherly even real, because it was acherly 14 different people. who were acherly women, but acherly gay men, but they were all black, but it was acherly only one black woman because blacks don't have to be fourteen people to be talented.

In Homer’s Iliad, their bond is portrayed as deeply intimate and emotionally intense, but not explicitly sexual.

>>211960965
that is Achilles and Patroclus

>>211960893
>>211960852
Nope—Plato was born long after the legendary events of the Trojan War, including the supposed lives of Achilles and Patroclus.


KEK THESE GAY FAGGOTS MAYBE PLATO SAW IT IN A GAY DREAM HE HAD LOL

>>211960965
It was a classic sexual-mentor relationship that everyone in the ancient world recognized as such actually, retard

>>211960991
maybe in your head canon but not according to homer

Socrates platonically foaming at the mouth for a hot young twink
Democrat propaganda!!

>>211961013
You haven’t read what you idiotically call “Homer’s Iliad” shut the fuck up

>yeah my 1920's translation is the gospel guys.

Most of this shit is just greek's pushing to have a battle buddy in war. So aka you take care of your friend and they look after you during battle. No gay sex involved.

Yeah all your shit is bogus. Being a nonce was frowned upon in greek society 10x more than it is now. You are literally projecting your gay noncery onto ancient history.

>>211961066
I have as a kid I believe but it doesn't matter that is the truth of it and that is what scholarly sources who have read it say about it
you're better off saying your 1920's version of plato or socrates calls everyone gay and everyone is lusting after boys that's a better argument for you to pursue

your argument is busted just like your asshole faggot

>>211960923
This. Preferably with Jacob Elordi as the dom Brando

>>211961117
We’re literally not even the same species fyi, I know you’re under the impression that this has been a debate and that we’re having some sort of exchange but you’re just a woefully ignorant perma-retard making posts coping and seething about the fact. You have 0 clue about anything and have been objectively blown the fuck out, not that you’re capable of realizing it of course.

>>211961161
adhominems and yeah we are different specieas i'm Cro-Magnon and you're neanderthal mixed with that ghost species

keep posting shit that is after the fact when the events are myths and legends lol i'm sure you'll win the argument

>>211960361 (OP)
99% of male hollywood stars were casting couched. even today. so they are arguably gay for pay. because of this they continue the cycle of molestation and "if i had to do it, you have to do it" .
even well known movie stars of today are said to do this.

Curious that their are so many gay guys that are also into ancient Greek philosophers.

>>211961204
It’s not an argument. You idiotically tried to own me by asking for “proof!!” of homosexuality in Plato, so I got down the copy I’ve read, which of course you yourself don’t own, took pictures of paragraphs showing how man-boy relationships are explicitly depicted and representative of attitudes about it at the time, and all you can do is say “d-dodgy translation!! uh ad hominem, yeah that’s a term I learned recently!! uh you lost!!” You’re a fucking RETARD

>>211960519
If your hero was an actor, you were gay from the start

>>211960519
ug grug the caveman in 45,000 BC was gay acherly, you can tell because they found a flower near his grave.

>>211960607
mouth on poo poo
penis on poo poo
not disgusting

>>211960701
>>211960732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAT4ybsz_E
If you're actually good faith here's a video for you

>>211961274
lol I don’t need to watch conspiratorial youtube videos you found on /pol/, I actually read the source material

>>211960695
and they always precede it with "ooh"

Nicholas Galitzine? Gay
Taylor Zakhar Perez? Gay and secretly married with a man
Pedro Pascal? Bi

>>211961283
>If you're actually good faith
Oh nevermind

>>211961297
Yeah nevermind dipshit, enjoy youtube

>>211961314
who did the translation for your precious book? i bet you it's contested by scholars

>>211961283
>conspiratorial youtube videos you found on /pol
3/4 of a million views

>>211961204
>fat low iq american fell for the neanderkike psyop
>doesn't know subsaharans are the only group with 0% neanderthal dna, and that yids have barely any
>never bothered to check genetic distribution charts to see that Scandinavia has the highest concentration, that the genes are linked to physical strength, pale skin, blue eyes
>thinks cold weather specialised species lived in deserts
actual idiot

>>211961333
God you’re such a fucking retard it’s unreal, last response for (you)
>>211961346
Damn that’s sick dude, fake Diddy trial videos outclass that in a day, I guess that means Prince really DID make a video before he died claiming Diddy raped him
Sorry youtube scholar, you’re not talking to a fellow downie

>>211960361 (OP)
Dafne Keen for Pier Angeli

>>211961381
>Damn that’s sick dude, fake Diddy trial videos outclass that in a day, I guess that means Prince really DID make a video before he died claiming Diddy raped him
What the fuck are you talking about

>>211961362
modern Europeans are largely descended from Cro-Magnon populations, though they’ve also mixed with other groups over time.
As for other populations:
- Africans are less directly descended from Cro-Magnons, since Cro-Magnons were part of the group that migrated out of Africa. However, all humans share common ancestry with them through earlier African populations.

african's are descended from an archaic ghost species not yet in the fossil record

>>211961403
Yeah naturally you can’t read lmao
Retard….. you tried to flout the video’s viewcount as a point of credibility…. I’m giving an example of how it doesn’t matter…… this is directly refuting you, and very easy to follow…….. good LORD

>>211961381
>God you’re such a fucking retard it’s unreal, last response for (you)
just tell us who translated the book? why's that so hard?

Why did a thread about james deen possibly being gay suddenly have a dude who happened to have screen shots with underlined areas of plato's work specifically about noncery?

>>211961433
Yeah what fucking loser translated my “precious” book, it was probably some fucking Jew or something heh. And disputed by scholars!!
Oh wait it’s actually a collection of many books and the TRANSLATIONS, plural, are fucking done by scholars.
You are such an enormous idiot it’s impossible to believe

>>211961465
Because that’s what you asked for, being too much of a retard to know for yourself that they’re there. Now it’s a self-own to prove you wrong as you fish for an opportunity to samefag updoots. All you have to do is kill yourself and hope next time you incarnate with a triple digit IQ

>>211961468
sounds shady scholars were probably jews because since you're so cagey about it

>>211960361 (OP)
>Dean dated Pier Angeli, Natalie Wood, Sal Mineo, Terry Moore and Ursula Andress etc etc.

Groomers: he's totally a faggot, bigot chuds.

>>211960607

>>211961501
I’m not any more cagey than I was when you requested proof and it wasn’t worth it, as you proved soon after. You’re literally just not worth engaging with beyond calling you names, you will never realize what a fucking waste of life dipshit you are.

>>211960361 (OP)
Was Chuck Sneed gay?

>>211961496
lol why are upset bro you got owned from the outset see >>211960840
>here's some shit plato said
>“Male does not unite with male... for it is unnatural.” (Laws 836c)

plato himself said it or do you think it's a dodgy translation?

GOT THIS CUNT ABSOLUTELY BOILING THIS HAS MADE MY NIGHT

look i'll just say this stop being gay and get right with god before it's too late

>>211961528
Yeah calling it a dodgy translation would be such a lame cope haha who would do that, oh wait that’s you.
Cute attempt at googlefu but you don’t know the context of the hyphenated quote and it’s not worth explaining it to you when you’ve demonstrated perfectly clear that you’re an unfixable mix of pure undiluted retard and disengenuous faggot

>>211961545
Not that fag anon obviously but given the context here, obviously the greeks did not dislike homosexuality for religious (specifically christian) reasons. It was for moral and social reasons that the majority found it distasteful. Same as today really.

>>211961606
Way to realize they weren’t Christians long before Christ, but no stupid retard, you’re still historically illiterate and wrong.

>>211960483
Groomers drag through the mud historical figures calling them faggots or lesbians and attack their families.
>In an online discussion quoted in The Telegraph, Anning’s distant niece, Barbara, said: “But I do not believe there is any evidence to back up portraying her as a gay woman…
>Similarly, she was quoted in the Daily Mail as saying that the lesbian storyline is “pure Hollywood” and said there was “no suggestion that she was a lesbian at all.”

>Two other descendants have come forward to criticise the project.

>>211961590
stop arguing through bad faith and embellishing the truth by posting pics of random text from a book we are supposed to believe is some ancient greek philosopher and not some nonce gay mans made up head canon, how's that for disingenuous

>>211961606
it was just some advice to gayboy nothing to do with christianty and greeks

>>211961663
sorry i was just saying he can become a christian and live his life as god intended and make his way to heaven or continue down the groomer path

>>211961663
>nothing to do with christianty
>stop being gay and get right with god before it's too late
anon come on, you have that in your mind for a reason

>>211961698
see>>211961694

Yeah bro keep underlining nonce shit in some ancient greek text i'm sure when the police raid you they're gunna enjoy your little study sesh.

>>211961716
yes so then see what I said to that >>211961606

>>211961745
yeah it's not linked to ancient greek shit it was just genuine christian advice for the chap

i dunno how to describe this to you in any other fashion for you to understand

>>211961776
I know anon, let's all fucking relax. this conversation is starting to get a little gay

>>211960375
If Brando was really angry with him and Dean's appearance irritated him, why are there at least five photos of them together in the company of friends? In my opinion, this is some kind of bullshit from some (((biographer))) with fan fiction.

Cary Grant was also gay btw

>>211961868
*kisses you hard on the lips and pulls your hair*

>>211960543
Implying someone sucked a dick is an attack on them

>>211961413
Out of Africa is debunked faggot.

>>211961906
The Hollywood bohemians of that time were very gay in fact, plus all those theater graduates were effeminate faggots and butch lesbians. People just knew back then that you don't have to kill your reputation, even if you like to fuck men's asses or lick pussy, it's your personal business and you have to leave that degeneracy at your door.

>>211961974
Impossible, Kamala Harris invented homosexuality on the campaign trail in 2024
This is an attack on Christian values
Space is fake

>>211961964
i know hybridisation is real

Ancient Greeks were absolutely turbo gay btw. it was an important part of their culture and served as sort of right of passage for the youth

>>211962048
rite of passage*

>>211962048
one pot is all you got to prove your theory?

>>211962060
>>211962048
>>211962061
In ancient Greece, rites of passage were deeply symbolic and structured, often reflecting a transition from one social role to another—especially from childhood to adulthood. These rituals typically followed a three-stage pattern: separation, liminality, and incorporation.
Here’s how that played out:

- Separation: The individual was symbolically removed from their previous status. For boys, this might involve cutting their hair or leaving home to live in a communal setting like a military barracks (as in Sparta). For girls, it could mean dedicating childhood toys to Artemis, signaling the end of youth.

- Liminality: This was the in-between phase—neither child nor adult. It often involved tests, training, or symbolic trials. Boys might undergo physical challenges or military preparation. Girls might participate in religious festivals like the Arkteia, where they “played the bear” for Artemis, symbolizing wildness before domestication.

- Incorporation: The final stage welcomed the individual into adult society. This could be marked by marriage, military service, or civic participation. It was a public acknowledgment of their new role and responsibilities.

>don't see gay sex in any of that?

>>211962061
It's just an example. of course there's a lot more evidence.
you can start off with a Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece#Theseus_and_Pirithous

>>211960361 (OP)
JJ Abrams?

>>211962048
Genuinely don’t bother lol, retard is thrown around a lot on this site to the point that it lost its meaning, but let me assure you that there are LITERAL retards flocking to this thread with the sole intention of going to retard war against anyone who knows what they’re talking about, in the name of Jesus and white masculinity or something

>>211962131
see>>211962083

>>211962131
also people (me) are sick of hollywood rewriting history and dumbasses like you then purporting the things you learnt from hollywood as gospel and projecting them onto the actual history
you are the useful idiots they rely on to push their agenda

>>211962190
>and dumbasses like you then purporting the things you learnt from hollywood as gospel
You were confronted by a guy with the actual source material disproving you, and you think we’re the “dumbasses learning from Hollywood”

Yes

>>211960361 (OP)
Who asked for this movie

>>211962215
i'll say it again since it's hard for you guys to understand

plato was writing about shit that happened hundreds of years before he was alive and was myth and legend like for example atlantis this isn't some factual source material

so if you believe plato's take on gays which is it's wrong you must also believe in Atlantis or do you dismiss that part of his writings?

and then when i brought up homer's illiad it was almost ignored

and then i brought up the fact that even plato himself said lying with a man was wrong that was ignored or "bro you don't understand the context but i wont speak on it because i know i'm actually arguing in bad faith"

go be gay somewhere else

>>211960550
>Rock Hudson

>>211962267
>plato was writing about shit that happened hundreds of years before he was alive
No, no he was not. You do not know what you are talking about whatsoever and are absurdly stupid.

>>211962267
Lol. He mentions “Atlantis” in passing it’s not some core part of his work, otherwise the stuff he writes about was contemporaneous/the generation immediately previous. It’s also philosophical, not a history book. You’re out of your depth

>>211960985
you made reference to plato's writings on the trojan war or someone did in this thread are you saying plato was alive during that time period??

>>211962352
well if it's philosophical then why are you using it in a historical context?

>>211962385
Because Plato was writing in the time that we’re discussing and his writings reflect the realities of the time

>>211960508
Young Brando is a good-looking dude, no homo.

>>211962438
>no homo
I don't think it would be a problem for Brando, lol

>>211962267
>The most common form of same-sex relationships between elite males in Greece was paiderastia (pederasty). It was a relationship between an older male and an adolescent youth. Not all such pederastic relationships were sexual but many were rather based on friendship and guidance. A boy was considered a "boy" until he was able to grow a full beard. Certain city states allowed it while in others like Athens, laws were eventually enacted to curb such practices as it was considered archaic and unnatural. The older man was called erastes. He was to educate, protect, love, and provide a role model for his eromenos, whose reward for him lay in his beauty, youth, and promise. Such a concept is backed up by archeological evidence experts have found throughout the years, such as a bronze plaque of an older man carrying a bow and arrow while grabbing a younger man by the arms- who is carrying a goat

>The roots of Greek pederasty lie in the tribal past of Greece, before the rise of the city-state as a unit of political organization. These tribal communities were organized according to age groups. When it came time for a boy to embrace the age group of the adult and to "become a man", he would leave the tribe in the company of an older man for a period of time that constituted a rite of passage. This older man would educate the youth in the ways of Greek life and the responsibilities of adulthood

>>211962407
philosophically*

>>211962694
look at me i can use ai that has to use weimar tier sources

>>211962718
we have archaeological evidence numbnuts. stop denying reality, why are so insecure about this anyway? the greeks would laugh at you

Modern interpretations of same-sex relationships in ancient Greece have sparked a fair amount of scholarly debate, and several key criticisms have emerged:
- Anachronism: One of the most common critiques is that modern scholars and activists sometimes project contemporary ideas of sexual identity—like being “gay” or “homosexual”—onto ancient societies that didn’t conceptualize sexuality in those terms. Ancient Greeks categorized relationships more by social roles (active vs. passive) than by the gender of the participants.
- Overemphasis on Eroticism: Some argue that modern readings oversexualize relationships that may have been more about mentorship, education, or social bonding. For example, the practice of paiderastia (pederasty) is often interpreted today as inherently exploitative or erotic, but in its original context, it was also a structured social institution with educational and moral dimensions.
- Selective Use of Evidence: Critics point out that artistic depictions and literary texts are often cherry-picked to support modern narratives. For instance, while vase paintings and poetry may depict homoerotic scenes, legal codes like those of Solon imposed restrictions on certain same-sex behaviors, suggesting a more complex and sometimes contradictory societal stance.
- Neglect of Regional and Temporal Variation: Ancient Greece wasn’t a monolith. Attitudes toward same-sex relationships varied widely between city-states like Athens, Sparta, and Thebes, and across centuries. Some modern interpretations flatten these differences into a single, unified “Greek view,” which can be misleading.
- Misinterpretation of Language: Terms like kinaidos (used pejoratively for passive adult males) and eromenos (the younger partner in a pederastic relationship) are often misunderstood or mistranslated, leading to distorted views of social norms and moral judgments.

>>211962760
My wiki article means they were gay and nonces from a couple of vases. Like I've said earlier in greek times being gay or a nonce was highly frowned upon by society much worse than it is today and not the done thing in fact you faced blowback if you practised such acts from the state.

>>211960519
And it’s beautiful and valid

>>211962764
They have found ancient rainbow flags in the Parthenon.

>>211961141
He's only dom when playing an abusive jerk

>>211962916
In ancient Greece, the rainbow was personified as Iris, a goddess and divine messenger who served as a bridge between the gods and humanity. Her name literally means “rainbow” in Greek (Ἶρις), and she was often depicted as a winged maiden of dazzling beauty, trailing color and light as she moved between realms.
Symbolically, the rainbow represented:
- Divine communication – Iris carried messages from the Olympians, especially Hera, to mortals and other gods.
- Connection between heaven and earth – much like Hermes, Iris traveled freely between the mortal world, Mount Olympus, and even the underworld.
- Ephemeral beauty and grace – her presence was fleeting, like a rainbow, and often associated with peace after storms.
Interestingly, in The Iliad, Zeus sometimes sends a rainbow as a harbinger of war or divine intervention, showing that the symbol could carry both awe and foreboding.

>tldr rainbow symbol meant different shit before gays adopted it in the 20th century or whenever

>>211961294
Pascal openly hates on women to elevate troons. Boycott

>>211962819
> in fact you faced blowback if you practised such acts
oh so now you admit that there was pederasty haha? nice, we're on the right course.
>they were gay and nonces from a couple of vases
uhhh yes? it means that homosexuality existed there and constituted a sizeable part of their culture. why would we discard such evidence? and like I said it's not just "vases", we have numerous historical accounts that back these claims. and the funny thing is that only people like you find this scandalous. people who are interested in Ancient Greece actually understand why they were this way. their idea of LOVE was very different from ours and it makes perfect sense

>>211963010
i never said nonces didn't exist back in the day i just said they faced harsh judgement if they were caught probably worse than if they were caught today

>>211963010
it means that homosexuality existed there and constituted a sizeable part of their culture.

see >>211962764
>Selective Use of Evidence:

what i'm trying to say is no it didn't

>>211960361 (OP)
this has been know for decades you retarded zoomer

>>211960848
he was a manlet

>>211960361 (OP)
is that actor from 13 reasons why?

>>211963058
>harsh judgemen
what kind of judgment tho? homosex wasn't illegal back then
it was frowned upon only if two ADULTS were still practising homosex. brother you're fighting against windmills here. extensive historical data crushes your philistine morals 10 times out of 10

>>211960543
What a factless bitchy faggot post. Have an upvote!

>>211963191
Yes

>>211963058
What? look at how long people like Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter and Bill Cosby got away with shit like this. People knew and they either didn’t care or were too scared of losing their jobs. And the further back you go the worse it gets. A lot of people took their degeneracies to the grave and the general public will never know.

>>211963299
>What? look at how long people like Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter and Bill Cosby got away with shit like this
like i said see>>211963058
>they faced harsh judgement if they were caught probably worse than if they were caught today

thank you for agreeing with me


>>211963217
they would lose status if they were caught which was a massive thing back in ancient greece it meant less wealth