He was 100% right

he was right about jimmy but wrong about himself
jimmy was right about chuck but wrong about himself

>I never cucked and sucked like you jimmy , I had to earn what I got

>>211966188
woah....

>>211966203
jimmy/saul didnt deserve anything
he was a spoiled conman who only cared about himself

>jimmy was right about chuck
no he wasnt

>the law is sacred
The same law that is passed by a senile senator. Chuck is an embodiment of an establishment shill.

>>211966385
yeah better to live in a shithole favela where your mother is raped and the cartel takes your shit without you being able to do anything

>>211966385
>The same law that is passed by a senile senator.
and why arent you in politics to stop him? You only have yourself to blame

>>211966143 (OP)
Actively subverting his brothers law career? Lying to him about his mother's death? Taking advantage of his caring nature to make him his errand boy for his mental illness? Attempting to sabotage his career once he gets it going without Chuck? Attempting to steal work from him just to spite him? Attempting to manipulate Kim into leaving him?

>>211966188
>"you're a piece of shit"
>no YOU are!!!
They were both right

>>211966416
There’s a huge amount of middle ground between those two things.

>>211966143 (OP)
he's proof that being correct doesn't make you right
truth alone isn't enough, you have to not be a prick as well

>>211966442
>Actively subverting his brothers law career?
Jimmy shouldnt be a lawyer
>Lying to him about his mother's death?
because jimmy left and obviously didnt want to be by her side at the deathbed
>Taking advantage of his caring nature to make him his errand boy for his mental illness?
that was jimmy who activley wanted to help
>Attempting to sabotage his career once he gets it going without Chuck?
literally where, but refer to my first answer, jimmy shouldnt be a lawyer
>Attempting to steal work from him just to spite him?
???
>Attempting to manipulate Kim into leaving him?
Jimmy was going to ruin Kim and destroy her life, and he did

>>211966442
This. What Chuck was was a malignant narcissist who has spent his entire life sabotaging his brother and pretending it's love because he's terrified that Jimmy is smarter than him (and he is). He got what he deserved - abandoned by the people who once cared about him, left for his mental illness to cannibalize him.

>>211966524
>truth alone isn't enough, you have to not be a prick as well
literally no, right is right whatever form it takes

>>211966489
you literally wrote that supporting the law makes ones a establishment shill

>>211966442
cope jimmyshill
>>211966533
its jimmy who is the narcissist with mental illness who constantly have to scheme and destroy peoples lives

>>211966596
Chuck could've used the truth to save his brother, but instead he used it to push him away and judge him.
He could've guided Jimmy, but instead he scoffed at him.
The truth is just a thing, and it needs to be wielded with love to have any real power.

>>211966666
wasted

>>211966666
true and chuckpilled

>>211966778
>Chuck could've used the truth to save his brother, but instead he used it to push him away and judge him.
>He could've guided Jimmy, but instead he scoffed at him.
jimmy is a grown man, Chuck has his entire own life to care for, does he have time to babysit his insane brother?

>>211966143 (OP)
Watch This is Spinal Tap. I love that actor.

they were both right

>>211966143 (OP)
He was a better man than Jimmy at least

>>211966920
doesent take much

>>211966143 (OP)
He was malicious because his actions were motivated by resentment toward the one man who took care of him. None of his justifications that Jimmy is dangerous, evil, whatever matter. The real reason he sabotaged Jimmy is because he was jelaous of him and couldn't stand him being on the same level as him. He was wrong.

>>211966533
Based

>>211966849
>am i my brother's keeper?
yes
but not to get off track, my original point is that truth alone will not set you free or give you the things you need
we should always seek truth and act accordingly, but this idea that the truth alone is enough just doesn't hold up to scrutiny anywhere on earth

>>211966778
Jimmy had no interest in being guided by Chuck. This was just a game to him. Remember he gets a massive job like 5 minutes into the show and instantly gets bored by being an actual lawyer and tries to get fired so he can go back to being a criminal who scams people. He even says the only reason he became a lawyer was so he could talk people into doing what he wants. And Chuck knows this and gets declared a villain for opposing such behaviour.

>>211966143 (OP)
About what? It's easy for me to be right about the well being poisoned if I'm the one actively poisoning the well.

>>211966666
Jimmy is definitely not a narcissist, but he was a selfish and impulsive man with a (justified) persecution complex. Problem was he let that be an excuse for horrendous shit.

>>211967019
armed with that truth, Chuck achieved nothing but being ugly towards anyone that ever cared about him
my point stands

>>211967029
>It's easy for me to be right about the well being poisoned if I'm the one actively poisoning the well.
Jimmy didnt turn into a manipulating grifter because of Chuck, he was always destined to be one

>>211967019
>Remember he gets a massive job like 5 minutes into the show and instantly gets bored by being an actual lawyer and tries to get fired so he can go back to being a criminal who scams people.
this

>>211967052
>Jimmy is definitely not a narcissist
>but he was a selfish and impulsive man
lol

>>211967082
the episodes where he manipulated that old lady cemented the fact that he is a bad guy

>>211966385
Im sure the alternative you propose for the establishment is a reasonable and effective vision ….

>>211967076
>Chuck achieved nothing but being ugly towards anyone that ever cared about him
??? He wasnt mean to his wife or Howard
True that Chuck was a bit cold and socially akward, but never mean to people who genuinley cared about

>>211967082
Jimmy fought in good faith for the elderly, publicly and privately.
Of all the examples to use this is the weakest one.

>>211967251
He was a distant husband and did you forget the falling out with Howard?
Where Chuck outright leaves over petty bullshit?

>>211967279
>ruining the private life of a innocent old woman for more money is a bad example

>>211967319
>He was a distant husband
he clearly still loves his ex wife and she doesent resent him
he just had a hard time expressing it, he wasnt socially skilled
> and did you forget the falling out with Howard?
which was a result of jimmys manipulating which started Chucks spiral into madness

Chuck is a bitter, resentful narcissist but who can blame him when he's had to fight and work his entire life for everything only for his brother to come in and shit on everything he does? Jimmy destroyed the family business, made a mockery of his job, destroyed his company, ruined his marriage etc.

>>211967400
this

>>211967325
Jimmy's original advice to her was cynical and making sure everyone gets paid (yes including himself) while they're still alive is the right thing fundamentally.
If the wronged parties never see a dime what is the point?
Jimmy righted a wrong, in the most retarded way imaginable admittedly, but he still acted in good faith and made the optimal outcome for grandma a reality.

I think their parents were in the wrong for raising two narcissists

>>211967462
their father was a cuckold, thats why theyre both screwed

>>211966531
>Jimmy shouldnt be a lawyer
Yes he should and he was good at it
>because jimmy left and obviously didnt want to be by her side at the deathbed
He left her side for 10 minutes to get food as an act to cheer them both up.
>that was jimmy who activley wanted to help
Yes because of his caring nature as stated.
>literally where, but refer to my first answer, jimmy shouldnt be a lawyer
Using his mental disorder for sympathy to bait a confession out of Jimmy
>Jimmy was going to ruin Kim and destroy her life, and he did
Yet at the very last second you could see she still cared for him

>>211967529
>Yet at the very last second you could see she still cared for him
because Jimmy is a dangerous manipulative conman

>>211967529
>Yes he should and he was good at it
he was good at helping criminals escape the consequences of their actions thus destroying social trust and cohesion
>He left her side for 10 minutes to get food as an act to cheer them both up.
because he is impatient, a characteristic that is repeatedly shown. he can't even sit still at his mother's deathbed for 10 minutes without needing to do something else because he is incapable of being reasonable and dignified
>Yes because of his caring nature as stated.
he's a scammer and thief
>Yet at the very last second you could see she still cared for him
because he ruined her and made a an accessory and dependent on his toxic influence

>>211967373
Chuck was already batshit crazy at the start of the show
>>211966143 (OP)
The point of the show is they were better off together. Chucks social/mental failings could be mitigated by Jimmy. Jimmy's moral failings could be mitigated hy Chuck. When they went their seperate ways one ended up dead and the other in prison. They were both right about the other one and completely wrong about themselves. Howard is the one who understood this and he's the most tragic character in the show.

>>211967616
>Chuck was already batshit crazy at the start of the show
nothing compared to what Jimmy did to him

>>211967606
>>211967564
this

>>211967564
>because Jimmy is a dangerous manipulative conman
He got nothing out of caring for him

>>211967606
>he was good at helping criminals escape the consequences of their actions thus destroying social trust and cohesion
That's the job of a lawyer. Your opinion doesn't change that. He also helped old people from getting ripped off.
>because he is impatient, a characteristic that is repeatedly shown. he can't even sit still at his mother's deathbed for 10 minutes without needing to do something else because he is incapable of being reasonable and dignified
No he jusy wanted to step away for 10 minutes. It seems like you have been fortunate to not have been around a dying loved one. Its stressful for everyone. Sometimes you need to talk a mental break and go for a walk.
>he's a scammer and thief
Doesn't refute what I said.
>because he ruined her and made a an accessory and dependent on his toxic influence
>a grown woman can't make her own decision on who she likes
oh you are a chud makes sense now

>be Chuck
>grow up in shithole
>father is useless
>work your ass off
>become a lawyer
>try to save your family from bankrupcy in the process
>pillar of the community, respected by all
>your family doesn't even care
>build up your own firm
>save your criminal, sex offender scammer brother from prison
>give him a job in your own firm
>he becomes a lawyer
>you have apprehensions because you know he is a scamming lowlife sex offender criminal
>don't hire him for fear he will use his lawyer knowledge to scam and cheat and hurt people
>don't tell him because you don't want to hurt his feelings
>he uses his lawyer knowledge to scam and cheat and hurt people
>you are the villain because you didn't support him enough
???

>>211967959
>pillar of the community
>the community he doesn't talk to because he is a shut in insane man

>>211967400
Chuck was all that before. We had a flashback when they were kids and Chuck was still an asshole to Jimmy. Jimmy could have never stolen a cent in his life and Chuck would have still found a reason to hate him because he's the favorite.

>>211968019
He only becomes insane after Jimmy starts ruining his life

>>211967959
this

>>211968052
He is insane because he is insane and thinks electricity hurts him and actively rejects any mental assistance

>>211968019
>because he is a shut in insane man
for his final 4/5 years perhaps, before that he was just like everyone else

and despite his sickness, he is still respected

>>211967666
>exposed that his illness was fake
That's probably the best thing Jimmy did for Chuck. Chuck just couldn't eat the L and then killed himself like a faggot

>>211968046
>>We had a flashback when they were kids and Chuck was still an asshole to Jimmy.
>a big brother is a bit mean to his little brother when theyre kids
wow what a monsterakvs

>>211968052
Retarded take. His Howard Hughes shut in phase starts the show.

>>211968091
>for his final 4/5 years perhaps, before that he was just like everyone else
The point is he was then and I would imagine if you worked for him you got annoyed that your boss acted like this and made everyone's work harder but you tolerate him since he pays you

>>211968105
You're activley ignoring the manipulating papers and making him look like a fool for no other reasoj than spite part?

>>211966630
I liked your posts

>>211968083
It's just a coping mechanism, later on he gets help and instantly becomes fully healed until Jimmy ruins his life again.
>>211968140
Yes, right after Jimmy becomes a lawyer.

>>211968150
You're actively ignoring that Chuck was a batshit shut in to start the show faggot
.

The show should not have killed off Chuck like that. He should have made amends with Jimmy and get caught up with the cartel shit then at the end instead of Howard being shot it should have been Chuck. Imagine how more impactful it would have been if Chuck was just randomly gunned down one episode due to Jimmy's involvement with the cartels. Granted Howard hurt too but Chuck would have been a much bigger deal.

>>211968046
Where was he an asshole? He's clearly spending time with him and reading to him despite being quite older. The only "asshole" thing he does it not spoiling the story when Jimmy demands it because Jimmy as always wants to cut corners and doesn't have the patience.

>>211968190
No it's insanity and throughout the show even when he is "healed" he still walks around with the foil cape and is shown to be affected by electricity and the sun. He never is fully healed he just deals with it

>>211968279
and despite all that "insanity" hes more of a pillar of the community than grifter scammer jimmy

>>211968190
>It's just a coping mechanism,
Based on your posts your the expert on coping
>later on he gets help and instantly becomes fully healed until Jimmy ruins his life again.
See that's cope. He never fully healed, they still have to have the lights out in the courtroom
>Yes, right after Jimmy becomes a lawyer
And? Jimmy got a law degree and was free to practice law. Your brother barely succeeding shouldn't make a sane make break down into a faggy made up illness

>>211968239
Killing Chuck is necessary because he's the last thing tethering Jimmy's goodness to the world world. When Chuck dies so does Jimmy, and his evil essence Saul takes over. Chuck was the one preventing this from happening.

>>211968239
Howard was the bigger deal because he was the most innocent and well moaning person in the main cast

>>211968279
He is almost fully healed before Jimmy switches the numbers. He goes grocery shopping, works in the office etc. He was close to being healthy again.

>>211968321
>they still have to have the lights out in the courtroom
and in other parts he can fully tolerate the electricity at HHM, if he was given a bit more time he wouldve been healed but Jimmy ruined it

>>211968311
Stop quoting insanity. When a normal person is depressed the stay inside or gain weight they don't start thinking electricity is out to kill them.

>>211968357
>almost
Cool so like I said he never was

>>211968325
this
Chuck was completley right about Jimmy and jimmy himself knew it

>>211968348
One of the best things of this show was Howard. The times he kept changing from heel to face over and over. Season 1 he comes off as the douche rich kid then you learn he actually is a good guy but goes heel again when Jimmy refuses to work for him and back to face.

>>211968239
I don't think that would have worked as well. Howard was just an associate of Jimmy's, with whom Jimmy had a rocky past and feelings of resentment. He genuinely wished a moderate level of harm and suffering upon Howard, and didn't have any kind of warmth or affection for him, the way he would even for a friend.

Chuck on the other hand was his big brother, and if Lalo had shot Chuck that night, Jimmy's reaction would have been a lot different.

As it was, Jimmy was horrified by seeing an innocent bystander killed in front of him, and (subconsciously at least) blaming himself for it. If he had seen Chuck died, his feelings of guilt and horror would have been even greater for sure, but there's also have been an incredible anger at Lalo. I don't know how exactly that would have manifested itself.

Would Jimmy have fucking snapped at lunged at Lalo with his bare hands? Would he have had a complete mental breakdown? Would he have become even more self-destructive from guilt?

>>211968380
>he was fully healed
>okay he would have fully healed
You lost faggot lol

>>211966143 (OP)
He was right at least partially because he made sure he'd be right

its kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qll7hCYFNjs

>>211968458
>because he made sure he'd be right
read >>211967082
Jimmy would NEVER become a decent lawyer, he was always a scammer and a conman

>>211968413
And Jimmy was wrong about chuck, he thought chuck was a good brother, Jimmy was the better sibling

>>211968521
part of being a good lawyer is being a conman and a scammer. You keep implying that your opinions of lawyers being scumbags, which is a fair opinion to have means Jimmy wasn't a good one which he was. You opinion of how the law works doesn't change that no matter how many times you spit out this retarded opinion

>>211968521
>a manipulative grifter
They were both lawyers midwit. Chucks a worse grifter because he's detached.

>>211968578
Jimmy wasnt a "good laywer", you cant compare him to Chuck, Howard, Cliff or HHM, even Kim was a decent lawyer

>>211966188
BRAVO

>"Uh I can feel electricity"
Literally the worst excuse to have him kept inside until his death.

>>211968582
>Chucks a worse grifter because he's detached.
Shouldnt a lawyer be "detached"? Hes just a tool of the law

Jimmy manipulated the law (and other innocent people) for his own gain

>>211968602
He was without the quotes. He did what was required of his job which was to get people off and he helped old people get money that was owed to them. By the literal definition of what his job was, he did a good job regardless if the people he helped were bad people. You have a completely child like naive look on this

>>211967019
>>211967606
this
/thread

>>211968602
Correct, Jimmy wasn't a good lawyer, he was an S-tier world-class lawyer

>>211968642
Chuck couldn't relate to a client like Jimmy, you don't want a detached lawyer, you want one fully invested in your case retard lol

>>211968642
>Jimmy manipulated the law (and other innocent people) for his own gain
So did Chuck, when he set Jimmy up with the tape recorder.

>>211967082
The way I remember it, at the start of the show Jimmy is an honest lawyer slaving away for chump money taking public cases. Not including the Kettlemans, since they were criminals, his first dishonest act with involving innocent people was when he paid the guy on the billboard to fall off so he could rescue him.

The only reason he did that was because he was desperate for money. Granted, he wasn't at risk of starving or going homeless, but he was coasting along on chump change and there was no sign of that ever changing. He even only met the Kettlemans because he was having to deal with public-case scumbags.

If Chuck had let him have the job at HHM, he wouldn't have been around low-lifes. He'd have been earning good money. He would still have had slippin' Jimmy tendencies and little momens here and there, but nothing major.

I think if he'd gotten the HHM job he'd have pretty much been set for the rest of his life, as a productive, happy citizen.

>>211968480
>I lost my older brother last year, we were arguing a lot these last years but he was still my brother. He was 27 Watching this scene again hits hard...

>>211968664
Least obvious same ragging

>>211968715
And he would have been around Chuck to keep his moral failings in line and Chuck would have had one person there to actually give a shit about Chuck. They were better together.
>I hope this comes off as me agreeing with you

>>211968715
>I think if he'd gotten the HHM job he'd have pretty much been set for the rest of his life, as a productive, happy citizen.
this is disproved by the fact that when he FINALLY gets a stable lawyer job at the other firm he does everything in his power to get fired so he can return to being a conman

Chuck was right about Jimmy

>>211968707
>So did Chuck, when he set Jimmy up with the tape recorder.
a taste of his own medicine, and Chuck was in the right because what Jimmy did was criminal

>>211968715
Jimmy got a job at this other firm where they basically sucked his dick and he hated it. Would have done the same thing as HHM and this time it would have affected Chuck directly.

>>211968803
That wasn't the same as the HHM job. That's working for some flaky guitar playing lipstick liberal fraud. Jimmy became a lawyer to redeem himself to Chuck, without that redemption Jimmy would rather play by his own rules. When he was under Chucks care he walked the straight and narrow and sacrificed his autonomy because mending fences and proving himself to Chuck was his purpose in life.

>>211968659
>You have a completely child like naive look on this
>>211968704
>retard lol
>>211968741
lol calm down jimmyshill

>>211968835
You really have no moral spine do you? Can't you smell your hypocrisy?

>>211967244
Mine is, everything stays the same but there's a government funded taco Tuesday for all American citizens.

>>211966143 (OP)
>>211968715
unrelated but the portraits of the actor are really kino
men like these arent made anymore

>>211968715
>I think if he'd gotten the HHM job he'd have pretty much been set for the rest of his life, as a productive, happy citizen.
Maybe. The constant theme of this show was Jimmy keeps going back to his old ways. When he visits his old friend he used to scam with, he immediately went back rto scamming. When he got the job at that big law firm, he sabotaged it. So it really depends if this attitude was a learned experience over time of just who he always was and if it was who he always was, a chuck with Chuck wouldn't have helped him

>>211968875
>proving himself to Chuck was his purpose in life.
That's what he believed but I think he was wrong. He didn'r actually care about making Chuck proud, he just wanted Chuck to notice him, even if it was in a negative way. He just tells himself that he wants to make him proud. In his mind maybe it's one and the same thing since Chuck only takes notice of him when he does bad things.

>>211968895
It's okay when Chuck does it because Chuck would never do anything unethical, just forget his unethical activities

He was wrong about at least a few things, including the year of the Magna Carta

>>211968895
>shooting a killer is hypocrisy
>if you kill your enemy they win

jimmy started the war, he got what he deserved

>>211968879
>>You have a completely child like naive look on this
correct did I stutter?

>>211968950
Chuck started the war with endless seething that Jimmy could make people laugh and he couldn't.

I have a BPD sibling. They have made life hell for my family and always attack us and is constantly paranoid that we are out to get them. I had to cut ties with them just to live a normal life. I would love to have a sibling like Jimmy over them

>>211968938
>The constant theme of this show was Jimmy keeps going back to his old ways.
exactly, just what Chuck said: "He will never change"

>>211969002
>I would love to have a sibling like Jimmy over them
someone who constantly one-ups you, manipulates people and somehow always gets away with it?

Did no one pick up the massive superiority complex Chuck always had over Jimmy and how he got mad any time Jimmy had any success? They spell it out in the first episode pretty well and nail it home when Chuck is arguing that jail is what Jimmy needs. He always wants him to be beneath him and all the conflicts arise the moment Jimmy finds success

>>211969014
But he does change in the finale you are conveniently ignoring. And thats long after Chuck died

>>211969042
No because I wouldn't act like Chuck and try to undermine him

>>211968944
He worked with sensitive client info in a mailroom for half a decade minimum in HHMs mailroom. Chuck practicly put his con artist brother in a honeypot of scammable materials and Chuck walked the straight and narrow. Maybe he wanted to be a success to spite Chuck, maybe to prove himself. But he put in years of good service to Chuck only for Chuck to handwaive his good years and just assume Jimmy would always be shit. And he let Howard take the blame for not hiring Jimmy, not a very moral decision, and chuck still used Jimmy to get his paper and groceries while Jimmy was struggling financially and working as a public defender. That's fucked up. Neither are saints and Chuck faggots will justify this behavior.

>>211969065
After remembering Chuck

>>211969078
Jimmy would act like that without Chucks undermining (which he did to protect people)

>>211968875
>>211968938
I think the number 1 most influential thing on Jimmy's behavior/psyche was Chuck's treatment and opinion of him. If Chuck had warmly embraced him into HHM I think they could have gradually paved over his inevitable (relatively minor) Slippin' Jimmy moments and made a worthwhile asset out of time, benefitting everyone involved.

>>211968920
I'm no lawyer but I think if I got a job at a big law firm, I'd feel inspired by pictures like that. Maybe it sounds weird to say. Something about seeing old masters of the craft looking down paternalistically to the new generation.

>>211969116
No he wouldn't. Any time Jimmy did that was when Chuck was trying to undermine him

>>211969014
Yeah Chuck did everything in his power to make sure Jimmy would stay the same

mcgill = white
goodman = jew
breaking bad babbies couldn’t understand this

>>211969143
>to make sure Jimmy would stay the same
That being without power, yes.
He did that to protect people, Jimmy with influence and power is dangrous and will get people hurt

>>211969167
Did Jimmy ever refer to his name sounding like "It's all good man" ever in BB I can't remember?

>>211969167
holy patrician enlightened

>>211967959
>don't tell him because you don't want to hurt his feelings
Besides the fact that's not the reason, keeping your brother from working as a lawyer with you and having ANOTHER person be the one to tell them and take the fall for you is not a good thing.

>>211969126
>I think the number 1 most influential thing on Jimmy's behavior/psyche was Chuck's treatment and opinion of him. If Chuck had warmly embraced him into HHM I think they could have gradually paved over his inevitable (relatively minor) Slippin' Jimmy moments and made a worthwhile asset out of time, benefitting everyone involved.
Totally agree, and chuck would have mended his brain. That's why BCS is a compelling tragedy, for chuck, for Jimmy, for Kim and especially for Howard.

>>211969143
Their last scene in the final disproves this. Chuck reaches out as a brother for once and Jimmy rebuffs him.

>>211969131
>>211969126
are you forgeting that Jimmy was a career criminal conman and a sex criminal (he shat into a car with kids in it) before Chuck saved him?

>>211969126
>I'm no lawyer but I think if I got a job at a big law firm, I'd feel inspired by pictures like that. Maybe it sounds weird to say. Something about seeing old masters of the craft looking down paternalistically to the new generation.
Fully agree and get what you mean
Definetly something missing today, wise old rolemodels - true "masters".

One can hope that one resembles something like that with age

>>211969257
That has nothing to do with how Chuck viewed him

Jimmybabies cant understand

>>211969299
>That has nothing to do with how Chuck viewed him
lmfao ok buddy

>>211969322
the choice of font and colors add soul

self fulfilling prophecy, dont hold someone back then get mad when theyre held back

>>211966143 (OP)

We can all agree that Jimmy is by far an extreme net-negative on society. No matter what you think of him, he steals, lies to and scams innocent people because he enjoys it to be frank.

Chuck is a net-positive to society, and no matter what you think of him staying inside a house all-day long after a long and successful career as 'the greatest legal mind' Howard ever knew.

Chuck massively contributed to society.
Jimmy massively took from society.

To us, Jimmy is a sympathetic protagonist, Chuck is an annoying piece of shit, and Howard has a comical superiority complex. But to society, everything is reversed.

Remind me why you are all so eager to defend Jimmy?

>>211969369
>>211969198

>>211969355
Jimmy was a scamming down on his luck guy for years and Chuck ignored him so stop pretending Chuck was a nice guy here. If my brother were out there scamming doing bad shit I wouldn't wait till he was arrested to help him

>>211969388
Chuck was a benefit to society at large and a harmful influence upon his own brother.

Which is worse? Which matters more?

>>211969388
literally this
the healthy view is to see Jimmy as a threat and hazard to society

It's so retarded how this topic has console warring. Like almost the entire cast of this show was made up of terrible people which is why you felt really bad when the one good guy was executed point blank. Did you people even watch this show?

>>211969432
society definetly matters more than individuals, anyone disagreeing with this is living in a fantasy

>>211969433
>healthy
god you people are such effeminate losers using terms like this on a discussion about a fictional TV show about drug cartels

>>211969443
>which is why you felt really bad when the one good guy was executed point blank
Howard wasnt the only good guy, and Howard wasnt really a relatble likable guy
I can relate and understand Chuck, even Kim and Jimmy in some parts - Howard is just a blank slate

>>211969432

Jimmy was a loss to society and a harmful influence upon his own brother.

Both destroy each other, but only one benefits society.

>>211969388
I dunno that Sandpiper case did a lot of good for a lot of people. Jimmy wasnt inherently evil. He had the potential to be good.

>>211969494
What other major character was a good guy? Mike lol?

>>211969388
the adult view, but the plebian masses love a underdog i suppose

>>211969502

m8 he shit spread his asscheeks and squatted on the top of a car and took a shit in it while a literal child was inside

>>211966143 (OP)
There is no excuse to treat your brother the way Chuck treated Jimmy.
If he didn't like Jimmy he didn't need to give him a job or rely on him when his "mental illness" caused him to go full NEET. Chuck's line about how he "never really cared all that much" is just a bunch of bullshit he said to hurt his brother.
Jimmy pulls scams, sure, and he might never change, that is also true. But Chuck lies to his own family because he was mad that their parents loved his brother the same as they loved him. He thought he deserved more love from his mom and dad because he accomplished so much.
Chuck was a self centered prick and absolutely deserved what happened to him.

>>211969521
Irene, that beautiful soul ;-;

>>211969483
>wanting a functioning society with good people is effeminate

>>211969388
They flipped this entire thing throughout the show though. Chuck ended up being a huge burden to his brother and his company.

But Jimmy really helped those seniors when he was focusing on elder law. They loved him and eventually he found out they were getting scammed to hell. He was a net positive there. Of course eventually Jimmy McGill became Saul when his morals went through the toilet after Chuck was exposed as to never given him any support and Kim left him.

>>211966416
Crazy how you have to construct an imaginary situation to justify your boot gobbling, but the inverse is not necessary. Must drive you fucking nuts.

>>211969593
No accusing people of being unhealthy because they disagree with you about a show is effeminate shaming tactics. As much as this site claims it hates reddit you sure do argue like them

>>211969594

Being good is an unnatural state for Jimmy. It always feels a little weird to the viewer and Jimmy. I don't think Jimmy enjoys being good over being bad necessarily, it's just he enjoys grifting, and usually the leaves him on the wrong side of the law and morality.

What do you think the inevitable BCS movie will be like? I really hope he doesn't get out of jail it would ruin the ending of the show

>>211969616
it's not healthy to root for criminals

>>211969664
what about the inevitable game

>>211969664
>the inevitable BCS movie
why would they make a movie of a 10+ year old show?

>>211969665
It is when it's fiction. It's why shows like this and the Sopranos and endless crime shows where criminals are the protagonist thrive.

>>211969611
Tell me how society would be without "establishment shills"

>>211969698
Why would they make so many Dexter spinoffs? Jews love money.

>>211969704
>sopranos
>rooting for the characters
filtered

go watch andrew tate and sigma edits lmfao

>>211969562
>because he was mad that their parents loved his brother the same as they loved him.
It's clear that even their eldery parents fell for Jimmys manipulation and liked him MORE than Chuck (who was stale and boring, but correct)

Same with Chucks wife, she falls for Jimmys manipulative charm

>>211969760
Yup and Dexter too. It's not the 1990's grandpa you lost when you made this argument about violent video games

>>211969406
>If my brother were out there scamming doing bad shit I wouldn't wait till he was arrested to help him
i think the majority wouldve just broken all contact

>>211969760

Everyone knows picrel is by FAR the best, most entertaining, compelling, and humorous character in the entire show.

>>211969803
this is unironically why violence, school shootings, individualism and lonleyness etc is increasing

society is rotting with a mean-spirited culture

>>211969847
Which would have been fine with Chuck but Chuck clearly wanted power over Jimmy's life because he looked down at him. I thought this was blatantly obvious when he didn't tell Jimmy his mom's last words were "Jimmy" or how Jimmy charmed his ex wife and he hated that

>>211969593
>>211969388
If chuck ran society millions would die from power outages. Chuck couldn't get his own paper. Chuck steals newspapers. Chuck put every family around him in danger of dying by fire because Chuck couldn't be bothered to kill himself by hanging. A society full of chucks would be pitch black with raging infernos and stolen newspapers. A society full of Jimmy's would pretty much just be 2025. Jimmy is a dysatopia, Chuck is an apocalypse.

>>211969897
ok I thought you were a troll but now this confirms it. 7/10 you got me to reply a couple of times

>>211969906
I think Chuck did it trying to be kind, he saved his brother and gave him a job
but he NEVER expected his sex-criminal, conjob, criminal brother to get a lawdegree

it's like hiring your criminal uncle as the janitor for the local city council and he suddenly shows up as a politician

>>211969660
I agree he definitely enjoyed the grift for a long time. I think deep down he enjoyed helping the criminals get out of trouble too like Chuck (supposedly) did for him. Most of the show as Jimmy lead him to believe that scamming was always going to be more profitable. The wolves vs sheep scene influenced him greatly but his admiration for his father and brother also pushed him in a different direction at the time. I think most here would agree that Jimmy tried going straight for too long and got kicked down at every opportunity. No matter what he tried to do to appear respectful, there's a pedigree he cannot match with his pathetic law degree and criminal past. It's ironic his wolf persona tries to fight for the rights of other criminals within the confines of the law. Perhaps Saul Goodman was a net positive for all of the low-lifes and criminals who cannot be taken seriously and gets terrible public defenders who have no real incentive to fight for them.

>>211968121
>Chuckfags cannot understand subtext
Then explain the reason for that scene existing if not to prove that Chuck always resented his little brother, even when he's an innocent child.

>>211969930
laywer Chuck (the majority of his life) and sick chuck (the final 4/5 years of his life) isnt the same thing

>>211969999
>I think Chuck did it trying to be kind
Why didn't he tell Jimmy what his mother's last words were then? Chuck is not kind. At best he sees Jimmy as a burden he is obligated to deal with due to him being his brother

>>211970041
it was to show how far they had fallen, that they were once innocent kids

>>211969798
No you fucking autist. Being friendly and having skills in conversation is not manipulation, it's just being a normal person. Chuck was a sperg and his wife left him for being a sperg. Many such cases.

>>211970070
>At best he sees Jimmy as a burden he is obligated to deal with due to him being his brother
As one should when your brother is a career criminal

Jimmy was the bad kid that his parents shows the most affection to and Chuck resented them and Jimmy for it. Both are bad in their own way but it really is the fucked up parents who are the bad guys here. People don't understand how hard it is to raise a kid. Do the right thing for 18 years and put in the effort and you got a good family.

Was he right?

>>211970134
No you can just cut them off but Chuck resented him so he flexed his superiority complex over him and resented Jimmy when he succeeded. Also being a criminal doesn't mean you are beyond redemption what a retarded take.

>>211969521
>Mike lol?
Mike was definitely one of the better people, he even forced morality into the cartel

>>211969999
He expected Jimmy to steal client info in his honeypot job at the mailroom so he could tell people at social events about how his brother was such a fuckup. Chuck wanted Jimmy as an anecdote, like other big wig socialites use their trip to Nepal or scubba diving the great barrier reef. When Jimmy turned his life around Chuck made sure to keep Jimmy on the edge of poverty in a constant state of repenting for his former crimes. Despite his love for the law that allowed Jimmy to be released into chucks custody, Chuck felt that Chuck was thr arbiter of Jimmy's future and made sure his life would never recover into something respectable. He decided to be judge and executive. He made sure Jimmy was still around to grab eggs and the paper, because Jimmy was his sideshow geek. He's as duplicitous and scummy as Jimmy, wrapped in a nicer box.

>>211970203
He defecated through a sunroof

>>211970221
Mike was a hired killer and a corrupt cop he probably was the worst character on the show more so if you include BB into his character

>>211970270
name anyone he killed who didnt deserve it

>>211970248
Cool we all do stupid shit when we are drunk. A shut in NEET like you could never understand this

>>211967616
>Chuck was already batshit crazy at the start of the show
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop him! You

>>211970050
Yeah if just forget about all the bad stuff Chuck did and only focus on the bad shit Jimmy did, Chuck looks great. Good point lol. Chuck could have killed the whole neighborhood with his suicide fire. Chuck cares more about himself than Jimmy does. His reckless spiteful suicide only proves this.

GOT ME ACTING UNWISE

>>211970050
We don't know what Chuck did at HHM or before. The show insinuates that most of the lawyer work was something akin to a scam. Actually, there were no clear good guys at all. The companies scam the customers or clients for money. The lawyers use the threat of a lawsuit to "help people" but the Mesa Vera payout to HHM was MASSIVE compared to what the victims ended up getting. (Then they had to pressure people into signing >>211969565 ) so the lawyers aren't exactly good either.

Chuck just might have been a higher prestige version of Jimmy who uses knowledge and loopholes of the law to achieve huge financial wins for his constituents.

>>211970184
I like the baseball cards my dad gave me so yeah

>>211970306
neet chuck contributed more to society than jimmy ever did

>>211970369
There's no indication Chuck was anything but decent.

>>211970369
>Chuck just might have been a higher prestige version of Jimmy who uses knowledge and loopholes of the law to achieve huge financial wins for his constituents.
Chuck literally worshipped the law, he would never do anything like Jimmy

>>211970376
Chuck wasn't a NEET he had a job and a wife at one point both things you will never have

>>211970372
did your dad sell drugs to the cartel?

>>211970376
how much neet would a neet chuck chuck if a neet chuck could chuck neet

>>211970248
And? So what is that worth the death sentence? Even Chuck knew it was chickenshit to make Jimmy a sex offender over that. If chuck thought Jimmy was irredeemable than he should have cut him off. Chuck didn't really care about redeeming Jimmy, he just wanted him as his cheap sideshow to make Chuck look human
>Oh my poor fuck up brother, woe is me I have to take care of him
When in reality Chuck was fine with burdening Jimmy with chucks psychosis. And Jimmy never batted an eye because he wanted what was best for Chuck. His failing was assuming Chuck wanted the same.

worst character in the whole show

>>211970448
>>211970403
A good lawyer is one who wins and makes money, right? Are public defenders good lawyers? Jimmy and Kim tried to be.

>>211970480
No he was a linemen for the phone company, and nerdlinger wasn't selling drugs, he was selling weapons tech.

>>211970511
Be nice.

>Chuck and Jimmy argue if bad guys should be let go
>Mike just kills them
Mike wast he best character

>>211970511
Nah Howard's wife clears. I always thank my wife when she makes me coffee.

>>211970552
no, he really was
a overpowered Gary Stu who was a terminator killing machine for some reason

>>211970511
I think its Gus. If you accidentally watched this before BB many things would get ruined foe you Gus being the big one

>>211970572
>Nah Howard's wife clears.
what does that mean zoomzoom

>>211970333
God he looked so fucking unhinged talking about 9 year old Jimmy. Guy was a nutcase

>>211966143 (OP)
Chuck instantly overcoming and forgetting about his allergy to electricity when he gets a chance to lecture his soon to be arrested brother is pretty damning tbqh.

How would this movie have played differently if Chuck and Jimmy were in it?

>>211970623
I'm 41 and Howard's wife is the most loathsome of the characters. I think Nacho is worse than Lalo if we're talking main cast. Lalo never had the opportunities nacho did, nacho became a POS out of greed and boredom.

I'm just here to tell all the Chuck bros: Good luck we are all counting on you.

Chuck and Howard are saints
Jimmy and Kim are devils
easy as

>>211970664
Massive spite fueled competitive orgy

>>211970716
Isnt more complicated than that

>>211970716
Wrong

>>211970716
How is Howard a saint? He's a petty theif, and a conartist for sympathy. If he wasn't rich he'd have been Jimmy. Chuck cons people for empathy, Jimmy cons people for entertainment. Neither are good.
The real blackpool is that Chuck was faking the illness the whole time

>>211970716
Correct.

>>211970790
>The real blackpool is that Chuck was faking the illness the whole time
because he was literally mentally ill by that time

>>211970790
>shit meant Chuck not howard

>>211970790
Howard did nothing wrong, and was athe purest soul in the entire show.

>>211970812
Nope he was a big of a conman as Jimmy. That's the subtext. He knew he was full of shit but needed the illness to overshadow the psychic injury of his divorce.

>>211970904
I agree, i fucked up
>>211970820

>>211970904
>the purest soul in the entire show.
he was a cold spoiled brat

>>211970948
The only thing Howard did wrong was not tell Chuck to fuck off when Chuck wanted Howard to take the fall for not hiring on Jimmy as a lawyer. Also the subtext is Howard let his wife peg him and she lost all respect, but you really need to go Easter egg hunting for evidence of that subplot.

>>211971153
>Also the subtext is Howard let his wife peg him and she lost all respect, but you really need to go Easter egg hunting for evidence of that subplot.
lolwut

>>211971170
Watch the coffee scene again and the meeting at the poolside restaurant, you'll see what I'm saying.

>>211970609
Gus was one of my favourite characters in both
Probably followed by Mike

The stupid wigger jesse is the one i hate the most

>>211971239
>the meeting at the poolside restaurant
which one is that?

>>211971291
>I'm a badass
>I'm crying
>I'm like a total bad ass now
>Oh no I'm crying
>time to be a badass
>Oh no Mr white it tears time
His arc is like an excite bike course

>>211970948
He never wanted to be a lawyer, just did it to please his father. He's the epitome of the word duty. Everything he does is for others and yet he never complains, never falters, never betrays their trust.

>>211971325
Where Howard talks to Kim and Jimmy, watch how he has difficulty standing and sitting and is always fixing the lower half of his suit

I miss /bcs/

>>211971409

but who was in the wrong here?

>>211971373
They do such a good job of setting him up to be some terrible person and the big reveal is that he's just a good guy.

>>211967019
Jimmy had tons of interest in getting Chuck's approval, regardless of if his intentions were ever good to begin with. Chuck sabotaged him every chance he got. We'll never know if Jimmy would ever be a good person if he didn't go through hell first because Chuck never gave him the chance to do so without attempting to quash him/keeping him as a pathetic castrated mailnigger in a wage cage.

>>211971426
>Howard didn't give him the Hamlincognito uppercut
Big missed opportunity Vince.

>>211966143 (OP)
Ultimately he was wrong. Jimmy finally faced the law for his crimes and misdeeds, even though he had an easy way out, which is something that Chuck didn't think he was capable of.

>>211968728
Very sorry man.
Peace will come in time.

>>211971545
>Jimmy finally faced the law for his crimes and misdeeds
because of chuck

is the storyline with Chuck and Jimmy a modern greek tragedy?

Jimmy - Chuck dynamic makes complete sense when you take into account that Jim cucked Chuck.

>>211971706
>Jim cucked Chuck.
he never did, though Chucks wife did find Jimmy charming

Chuck is much older than Jimmy and it's implied he was basically sent off to work quite young, only to return to try and save his father's business. He never had much of a childhood, instead he was forced to become a model student and hard worker by his parents. Then they had Jimmy and just spoiled him all day and let him get away with everything. Chuck meanwhile was never allowed such luxury. So he grew up dull. He's the victim.

>>211971811
Truth

>>211966143 (OP)
>mentally ill narcissist who's too blinded by his own pride to realize that he's putting his own clients (let alone his firm) at risk

Don't get me wrong, Jimmy's a piece of shit too, but Chuck did pretty much everything in his power to set him down that path.

>>211971988
>>211967082

>>211972041
>>211968715

>>211970511
wrong

>>211971409
some of the finest posting I've ever seen

waltuh

>>211971665
No actually it was Jimmy's decision not chucks

>>211971738
Well and she also felt that Chuck treated Jimmy like shit, saw that Chuck was a petty asshole incapable of love and left him. The time Chuck talked about Jimmy stealing from the parents at 9 turned her pussy into a desert and they experienced bed death. She thought she had bagged a titan of law, instead she married a weirdo sperg.

>>211971811
The real victim was the neighborhood who had to inhale chucks suicide fumes and the small children who developed lung cancer from it.

>>211972455
It was never proven to be suicide. Jimmy probably murdered him.

>>211972606
NO IT WASN'T ME IT WAS IGNACIO

>>211972606
Who brought him all those lamps and newspaper?! It was an
accident" waiting to happen!

>>211972606
We see chucm kick the lantern over

>>211972760
You're telling me a lantern just happens to fall over like that? No, he kicked it. Jimmy!

>>211972126
They're forgetting 2 timeliness, but it was also written in season 4 so it's understandable

Both McGills dindu nuffin. Jews just want total control of the lawyer industry and scapegoated this 2 honest Irish men.

>>211971409
We used to joke that BCS was the last TV of all time. No one's laughing now,,,

>>211972999
But what about aging actor show that's a soft vehicle for boomer politics, or young actor show that's a soft vehicle for degeneracy and troons?

>>211969760
I unironically rooted for Ralph in season 3 when it was airing

>>211973380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm7sTC214wQ
Who didn't love Ralph right after this scene?

I need kim to trample my balls in high heels.

>>211966416
I feel like you skipped a few parts

>>211969233
>and having ANOTHER person be the one to tell them and take the fall for you is not a good thing.
Chuckfags never mention how hard he threw Howard under the bus, I mean even Jimmy had his reservations at first over scamming him in S6

>1st born siblings
Chuck did nothing wrong, he's checking a good guy it was just Jimmy
>Youngest children
It's all just chucks fault for undercutting my guy Jimmy
>middle kids
I wish they'd just stop fighting

>>211974875
im youngest child but root for chuck

>>211966143 (OP)
He went about it completely the wrong way. They're brothers and he should have been able to tell him "I'm proud of you for getting a degree and passing the bar without telling anyone, thats impressive, but I can't in good faith hire you as a lawyer at my firm for [reasons] but I would be happy to help you establish yourself locally."
Instead he sabotages him, lies about it, and then makes sure he's doing bullshit PD overflow cases for peanuts.
But then again the whole point of chuck's character is that he's emotionally retarded.
Also, if chuck hadn't set up howard as the fall guy jimmy probably wouldn't have resented him as much, which means no billboard, no stolen newspaper, and all the fallout from that.
Chuck did everything he could to put jimmy in a situation where he would be prone to slipping.

>>211974928
jimmy shouldnt have been a lawyer in the first place

>>211967211
do NOT bully Irene :(((

>>211969233
Why do the Chuck ball washers always conveniently forget this.

why didnt kim visit saul during any of the breaking bad events?

>>211969432
Chuck was an albatross to society. Think of how many people who really needed help had to wait for while Chuck went to the doctor to play pretend. Jimmy improved the lives of almost everyone he met, Chuck just set his house on fire and stole newspapers. Acting as a front man for finance was not improving society

>>211975058
Too busy being a happy mother and wife to my children.

>>211975058
Too busy have middling sex in Florida

>>211975146
>>211975187
Kek

>>211975014
Why? Because he had a past?
Vince also said he conceived of chuck and jimmy as being two halves of a super-lawyer. Chuck had the book smarts and procedure while jimmy had the soft skills and determination.

>>211975430
>Why?
Because it's like, as Chuck said, a chimp with a machinegun. Jimmy is a dangerous manipulator who damages and hurts innocent people to get what he wants. He doesent care for the law or due process, he makes a game out of it

I have an old friend who claims to have EHS and he's one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever met. A pure narcissist. He can't even sit in one place for 10 minutes because he starts saying shit like "I'm getting hit by something" and by "something" he means some stray electromagnetic waves. Pure schizocore BS. I was sort of willing to hear him out because he moved out on a couple acres in MO into a shed to try to live off grid but it's the most half assed retarded attempt I've ever seen. He can barely function. It really is some "woe is me" "nobody knows how hard it is etc etc" kind of shit.

>>211975645
lmfao write more
How does he live? What is his shed like?

>>211975645
Need more

>>211975645
>it's the most half assed retarded attempt I've ever seen. He can barely function.
lol

>>211975512
And Chuck manipulates the law, like a good lawyer, to make his company money and feed his own ego. HHM does not take on small cases. They're all about pleasing investors by increasing clout and lawsuit payouts. They don't give a shit about the old people at Sandpiper. They even tried to cut out Chuck by giving him a pathetic "finders fee".

Goodman is out on the front lines protecting people who committed crimes by giving them the best defense he can, in a world where the poor and uninformed are doomed to pathetic public defenders.

>>211966531
It wasn't Chuck's place to decide who gets to be a lawyer or not, Chuck said it so himself, "the law is sacred", Jimmy followed the law, passed the bar exam. It's done. He's a lawyer because the sacred law said so, if Chuck doesn't want that, then either the law is wrong, or he needs to review every single lawyer because there has never been a single potentially scumbag lawyer before Jimmy took the bar, right?

>>211975953
Yeah Chuck just runs a corporate firm that emboldens finance. There is never a flashback or mention of any of the good Chuck did for society, he just help banks with zoning and permits

>>211969167
takavic?

>>211975964
The law shit only mattered to Chuck as a way to set himself above others. His world crumbles when his loser brother starts climbing the ladder

>>211975746
It's straight up some Bubbles tier kind of shed. Not even what you would call a pole barn. I honestly don't know where to start with the guy. When he was still at his grandmas house (who passed away) he wouldn't run the furnace or AC and would be burning up or freezing because he said the electric motors gave off EMF. I told him freezing or dying of heat stroke seemed more dangerous. All this started back in the early 10's when the water company put a smart meter onto he water meter and he claimed it was beaming stuff at him. The worst thing about all this is that the EHS "community" online basically ruins people lives. He got one of those EMF detectors and it just drove him mad because that stuff is everywhere. He was going to try to have one of my carpenter friends build a faraday cage around his bed. His grandma passed away and he hadn't been paying the mortgage, but he got over 100k for a "wrongful death" lawsuit and despite having that money the bank removed him from the house. He had met some other crazy woman at the Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage, which is another funny story and she picked up and took him to the state forest in MO to try to get him into nature, and that too is more craziness.

>>211976599
Unload brother, this is the best thing on 4chan right now

>>211976062
That's wrong, for example there's a scene with some representatives of some Native organisation Chuck helped

>>211967959
All this is fine and correct, but finish the thought:
>Never tell Jimmy any of this
>Continually string him along for years
>Force your partner to take all the blame for treating him like shit
>Exploit his kindly nature to make him your delivery boy cleaner bitch

There's a world where Chuck told him years ago, and honestly,
>Look Jimmy, I can't hire you, for a number of reasons.
>it'd be a nepotism hire for the firm,
>the school you went to is massively below our bar, and
>I like you personally but am worried you might return to your old scamming ways
>I can't hire someone whom I'm not sure I can trust with the firm's reputation.
>I also can't stake my reputation recommending you to other people, either:
>I'm not confident you won't do it somewhere else.
>I wish you gave me a chance to talk to you about this before you went ahead and just did it
>I would've told you this and could've saved you a lot of trouble.
>I hope you can understand, and I'm sorry

And in THAT world, Chuck's still hard-hearted and kinda retarded, but nevertheless unimpeachable. That world isn't the one we got.

>>211976674
When the water meter thing was going on he called the fire department to make a stink about it. I think somewhere there was some paperwork that said you could opt out and they eventually removed it. I think possibly, maybe it did make some kind of barely audible sound or something. I don't know.. but from that point on it was everything. He was using the emf meter on his PS controller and started looking at maps for where cell towers were etc etc. When he met that other lady at the eco village she picked him up later when he was getting evicted from his old house. She took him down to Arcadia to a camp site. Probably not a terrible idea relative to his ideology. Even I had been telling for years if that if he really thought all this was legit that he should just get out into the wilderness and stop complaining. The problem is the guy is basically totally helpless. That is where the problems come in. He was out at that campsite and he was starting to get abusive to that lady who had took him there like she was his keeper. He could have arranged some kind of supplies delivery, or taken his own ass out west and rented a cabin or something but he just couldn't quite figure that out. When the fall was coming the park ranger finally told him he had to move on somewhere for his own safety, so eventually the lady came back and took him to an old barn she owned and he spent the winter there. It's crazy because he said he almost froze to death and had to chop his one wood all the time not to freeze and I was like "did it occur to you that in the country there are people who will deliver firewood to you?" and he was like baffled that was even a thing. The worst part is he said that when the wood stove was heat up that it would make him sick because the cast iron gives off EMF when it heats up. At that point I was like shrugging my shoulders like "just die then idiot."

>>211966143 (OP)
He wasn't. He deliberately sabotaged Jimmy when he was making a honest effort to turn his life around and then pretended he was right all along, despite causing it himself.

>>211966531
I can see by your idiotic opinions that you are a retarded self-righteous anal retentive hypocritical miser like Chuck. My condolences.

>>211977311
He hung around this hippie lady for a long time and she would drive him around and they were claiming they could feel when the next cell tower was coming up. I was trying to tell him that there are so many cell towers that you could do that pretty much everywhere. There was some story he was telling that they were walking around some town in rubber suits like lunatics and people were staring at them. When he was at the barn he said there was a family of skunks living underneath the floor. The barn had schizo ramblings scribbled all over the wall and I regret not taking pictures. He would fight with the lady all the time she got tired of his shit. She was always trying to help him but he's difficult every step of the way. Eventually she had to call the cops to remove him and they had him committed for like a week. He had a panic attack, just like Chuck in the hospital with all the equipment and all the wifi and he claimed that they were going to kill him if he stayed there any longer. One of my other old friends was kind enough to pick him up and bring him back to our town. He took him to several different hotels but he would always flip out about the wifi like "I can't stay here, the wifi is getting me." Then even at the old holiday inn he paid for a room and looked out the window and there was a cell tower on top of the building and he left in the middle of the night. My friend picked him up again and took him back to his place where he eventually found the acreage and the shed in MO. A few days later my buddy took him out there for him to make the deal. I think he has been out there for a little over a year now.

>>211977311
>the cast iron gives off EMF when it heats up
lol

>>211977871
Apparently there is some kind of paint that can block EMF and he spent thousands of dollars on several gallons of it. He wanted to build some kind of faraday room that he could sit in to block the waves. It's probably a scam though. If you want to make a bunch of money from idiots there's probably some kind of shit like that you could make and market. He was also on this whole "collating" diet thing trying to remove the heavy metals and mercury from his body, and eating vegetarian despite being terrible at it and not knowing anything about nutrition.

>>211977871
I mean it does. Infrared is EM radiation.

>>211978184
Does the reader give off emf?

>>211978184
A Faraday cage isn't that complex, just some conductive metal where the "holes" are smaller than the wavelengths you want to block.