What actually makes a movie good or bad?

movie i like = good

movie i dont like = bad

>>211985930 (OP)
He's right, the only thing that really matters is your personal experience

>>211985957
But what makes you like it or not like it?

There is objective quality to cohesion, even if the narrative or subject matter to one's liking. It's more of a mystery why some people don't give a shit about plot holes or logistic continuity.

>>211985930 (OP)
It it’s entertaining. All that matters.

>>211985930 (OP)
Idk. Some fag at this site said my opinion on good movies doesn't count because I said Shrek 1 was a better movie than (Tarkovsky's) Solaris and The Lighthouse.

>>211986042
> It's more of a mystery why some people don't give a shit about plot holes or logistic continuity.

Because they don’t care or think about it that much. They just want something to turn their brain off for a few hours and be entertained. They don’t give a shit about anything more then that

>>211985971
Is he even implying that though

>>211985930 (OP)
Unless you care about cinematography, most good movies are just okay by normal standards which cares more about the story.
Most bad movies are in reality just okay movies that are inoffensive.

>Does the film deal with something that I feel in my experience in being a human and express it in a way I'd never thought of?
>Is it thematically coherent and understanding of its own message?
>Is it pretty?
>Does it have lines of dialogue that are pretty?
>Does it have music and sound design that is pretty?
>Does it affect my mood in some way?
That's basically it. If yes to all of those, it's a great film. Most of them, it'd still be a good film.

I just hope everybody had a good time.

>>211986179
By this metric Armageddon is the best movie ever

>>211985930 (OP)
well what about the other 10% you fucking retard

>>211986256
Armageddon isn't pretty.

>>211985995
I like it when the movie is pretty and the words are good. The movie is pretty when it appeals to a classic conception of beauty and/or exemplifies high levels of technical prowess. The words are good when they convey emotional truth.

>>211985957
fpbp, unfathomably based. I am unironically the ultimate bastion of quality in the universe

>>211986305
It has Steve Buscemi shooting a mini gun can't get prettier than that

>>211986042
>there is objective quality to cohesion
But does it always matter, and then whats the worth of objectivism here?

>>211985930 (OP)
Artistic merit.

>>211985995
If I had a good time watching it
For example "he died with falafel in his hand" was a good movie because I had sex after it.
Also "battlefield Earth" was also a good movie, I went to a cinema with my friend and after it our parents bought us ice cream.

My three favorite movies are Lawrence Of Arabia, Cool Hand Luke, and Kung Fu Panda 2. Honestly I can't even tell you why they are good.

>>211986435
This is one of the reasons I hated Ad Astra. Not only was the movie a huge letdown for me (was very hyped for it and avoided all trailers and discussion) and a complete snoozefest, but I watched it immediately after work so was tired and the long runtime made it even seem even more boring. Finally when it was time to go home I found out some assholes did a hit and run on my car, dinging the passenger side doors

>>211985930 (OP)
The beholder

>>211985930 (OP)
Trolling is truly blossoming as an art form.

>>211986042
>muh plot
fuck off back to /lit/
the only thing that matters in film is visuals

>>211986834
Sound design and soundtrack is more important.

>>211986042
>It's more of a mystery why some people don't give a shit about plot holes or logistic continuity.
I don't think it's the case that people generally don't care at all about plot holes or continuity, more that film is an audio visual medium and so long as the imagery and composition is coherent and pleasing, quibbling about plot details is a secondary concern. No amount of glaring plot holes or unrealistic plot contrivance is sufficient to make me nolonger enjoy Tarsem Singh's fantastical films for example.

>>211986042
Because unless the film establishes in some way the importance of it's internal logic to the narrative/themes (somehow) it doesn't matter. Also most of the time people are fucking retarded and don't even know what plot holes is. "Character didn't do the most robotic logical thing in this situation that means it's a plothole!".

>>211986067
Shrek is better than The Lighthouse but not better than Solaris.

>>211986042
>plotfaggotry
Film is a visual medium.

>>211986834
TIL that TV display demo reels are the only good movies

Who actually goes out of their way to watch a movie they don't think they will like.

>>211988515
This is not a flattering cinematography grid even though it is a very nice looking film. The shot selection for the picture could have been much better.

>>211988548
In a sense they're pop-art worth analysing.

>>211986834
>>211987378

I don't know what the term is exactly, but when a scene is filmed right, it draws your attention in and makes you hyperfocused on whats happening. It all has to do with the camera cuts, how many there are and what they are cut to show, and the actual camera shot, if it's a close up or far but what is shows is very important. I see it a lot in Quentin Tarantino films. I watched Hateful Eight the other night and the last scene is filmed just spectacularly. I also think a lot of that had to do with the acting as well.

>>211988605
Yeah I need to make a proper cinegrid for it. I just got that one off of yandex.

>>211985930 (OP)
You know you're watching a bad film when they whip out the "exciting music." On screen, it will be the most mundane thing ever, usually its someone or something doing abso-fucking-lutely nothing at all, but they whip out some hardcore drumtrack and violins to make you think it's something exciting. I first noticed this while watching Resident Evil 3, and Leelu Dallas Multipass was in the desert, on a dirt bike, sticking poles in the sand, and I thought, wow this scene is boring and dumb.

Next time you see some fucking SUVs or something driving around on a sunny day at 30 mph, pay attention to the music, and ask yourself, is this exciting, or is it a bad film?

>>211985930 (OP)
Most of the population acts like insects.

>>211985930 (OP)
The problem is people only watch movies on top 100 lists or whatever, and for the most part they are all good.
Watch actual bad movies and it becomes clear what makes a good movie and a bad movie. I think people need more perspective like this.

>>211988447
eh they're about equal

>>211986042
>plot holes
the midwit's favorite tool for "criticism"
what is actually important in a story is its themes, characters, how it uses its various devices to frame the story, aesthetic quality, the overall artistry of the work, etc. plot holes are unimportant and the only reason they've become important is because midwits are unable to grasp art at a higher level

>>211986042
>plot holes or logistic continuity
Yeah more than half the time you're not noticing a plot hole you're thinking "this is how it should have been done (by me)." You and 99% of reviewers, critics and the general audience online with any opinion on art

>>211985930 (OP)
A good movie is one that takes you away, actually let's you immerse yourself in it. A bad movie attempts the same thing but constantly forces things so hard you are taken out of it.

It comes down to logic and technical skill. If the plot or the characters have no logic, you're forced to examine why the actions make no sense. If it technically fails than you're constantly losing immersion. If you do both right

>>211989010
>The problem is people only watch movies on top 100 lists or whatever, and for the most part they are all good.
I'm kinda like OP and I think what you said has something to do with it.
I'll chat with others after the movie about what we liked about it, themes, analogies to real life and commentaries on it. But at the end of the day, all the movies that I watch, specifically ones I choose on netflix or whatever, are "good" movies. I rarely just throw something on because it's there. It's a pretty deliberate choice. So the odds I chose a movie I won't like are slim, and even slimmer that I choose an actual bad movie.

A good movie has none of these

>>211985930 (OP)
>Cant visualize an apple: The Person

>>211985930 (OP)
what IQ is this? 35?

>>211986834
This is why the Tree of Life is the logical conclusion to film.

>>211985930 (OP)
a good movie expresses something true about the human experience in a compelling and creative way.

What makes a color or flavor good or bad?

>>211985930 (OP)
that's me but 90% of the time I don't have fun

>>211985930 (OP)
>What actually makes a movie good or bad?
booba

A good movie is good and a bad movie is bad. You're welcome.

>>211985930 (OP)
this is bait, so he enjoys every movie ever made? all equally at the same level?
impossible

>>211985995
If it's honest with me, if it immerses me in it's world and story, if it doesn't have ugly people or miscast actors playing major roles - yeah, that's a good one for me.

>>211989448
Plot holes do matter when the characters act in a retarded self-destructive manner, see Alien: Covenant.

>>211994632
Sombra is sexo, posting nu-Overwatch characters would've been more accurate.

>>212004284
A movie with good music and cinematography can easily convince me the movie was good despite glaring plot issues and poorly written dialogue.

>>211986042
>There is objective quality to cohesion
There isn't though, this is entirely subjective. In a surreal art piece, a lack of cohesion might even be desirable.

New question, why is your favorite movie your favorite movie?

make this dude watch an 80s B movie where characters wander around doing nothing for an hour and he'd change his tune real fast

>>212004332
Is that why there's so many prequelfags?

>>211986051
this
it can be shit, but if im entertained, thats all that matters

>>211985930 (OP)
an unexamined movie is not worth watching

>>211985995
Aesthetic contemplation of a work of art provides a temporary liberation from the suffering that results from enslavement to the will

>>212004435
I like it the most :)

>>211985930 (OP)
Many factors, for example:
>narrative
>casting
>acting
>dialogue
>direction
>aesthetic
>editing

A bad film can fail at most or even all of these and still be one that you personally enjoy, and a good film can succeed at most or all of these and still be one that you don't like. Your preference of whether you like it or not doesn't change the objective facts of the film.

>>211985930 (OP)
But what if you DIDN'T have fun watching the movie?

>>211985995
Fuck this gives me anxiety. How do I know if I am enjoying myself? Is there a smart watch option for this?

>>212005317
Nearly all of these are subjective. The true measure of a film is whether it is in focus.

>>212005405
Only aesthetic is subjective

>>212005405
They're not subjective, though. They're easily quantified.

>>211994632
The sad thing is, despite the sentiment, you can tell this wasn't made by a 12 year old boy.

>>211985995
There are objective factors in a movie that make it good or bad, such as the shooting, special effects, plot, characters and writing. This makes it a good movie which I like.
There is also something that makes it an entertaining movie such as fast pacing. This I like too but it doesn't necessarily make it a good movie.

>>211985930 (OP)
What actually makes a movie good or bad?

my genetic.
my education.
my own experience.

these three tell me that jews lie to me.

therefore the answer is obvious.

>>212005441
Not at all. Whereas you can see if a film is in focus or not.

>>212005634
Confirmed for being unable to objectively rate a movie.

i think i agree with this sentiment, I watched all of Meg 2 for the slop of it and Oppenheimer was boring as fuck, overrated Nolan. Now, the writing of a film is a different story. Thats an objective reality

I don't like movies.

>>211985930 (OP)
some people are simply NPCs. it's not even about dissecting a movie frame by frame but how could you possibly not automatically reflect on what you're experiencing? do they derive such orgasmic pleasure from watching a movie that all higher brain functions turn off and they forget everything once the movie is over? WEIRD and why are those people allowed to vote again?

>>211985930 (OP)
This man takes SSRIs.

>>212008924
i like macdonald it taste good

>>212008924
90% of the population is NPCs. They are essentially automatons following programming and reacting to stimuli.

>>211985971
I had a coworker say he liked Battlefield Earth. Estimate the quality of this person based off this information alone.

>>212009626
fair enough but i do think about the shit i eat
>enough sauce / not enough sauce
>juicy meat / overcooked meat
>is it healthy or not? how often should i indulge?
>was the food cost effective? how does it fare compared to a different restaurant or home cooking?
stuff like that and i believe you think about it too because otherwise you end up like those people who down liters of soda, fry their chocolate, can't fit through the door frame anymore and then die at 40 from a heart attack. i mean they do exist but unfortunate for them they are similar to NPCs.

>>212004624
>>212004624

what if it's pure kino but not entertaining at all?
see: any Tarkovsky film

Movies are a shallow form of art. Therefore their main utility is entertainment value and rewatchability. If a movie is entertaining, rewatchable, it is good. If it's "well made" but boring, it is not good, because even a well made movie is inferior to other forms of art and is cheap viewing slop. Men will march into battle and move mountains to good music, a movie has never inspired anything other than passive imagination.

>>211986435
kek

>>211985930 (OP)
I agree with this tweet.

>>211985930 (OP)
It is a matternof how much you think and remember about what you felt. You might even find out you didnt really like the.movie

>>212009967
you wouldn't know what art is even if it'd throatfuck you

>>211989448
"muh themes" is the actual midwit's tool for criticism. film making is storytelling. if the story doesn't make sense, then it's poor storytelling. but dipshits like you don't care as long as the characters parrot your npc political views.

>>211985930 (OP)
Some kids grow up in a not critical family, if I spend 80 dollars for cokes, popcorns and tickets then you better act like you enjoyed it little shits.

>>212010116

No one will ever care about your pretentious shit anon. It's a minstrel show, but filmed. By definition it is low brow.

>>212010123
You’re the only person thinking about politics.

>>211989448
You think that because you’ve never seen or recognized a real plot hole.

>>211985930 (OP)
dunno
depends
i watched hobo with a shotgun last night and thought it was ok, until like an hour in when the guy literally into the camera and says deadpan horrible ass delivery"i am a.hobo with a shot gun"
i turned the movie off right then, no hesitation
it actually pissed me the fuck off

The 3 main criteria
Did it keep.me interested in what was going to happen
Did it make me.feel good
Do i often remember it

>>212004372
Even surrealism has cohesion.

>>212010230
>keep.me
>me.feel
bot detected

>>212005453
dilate, groomer tranny

>>212009934
>what if it’s pure movie

I just watched a movie that failed the Bechdel test and it was pretty good.

Interacting with people like in OP's pic drives me insane. You try your best to reserve judgement but their simplicity evokes an intense desire to mend and correct -- all in vain. The feeling is compounded when you're reminded that these people roam freely in the world.

How do you take grown men seriously when they say they really like marvel movies or that they liked the Game of Thrones ending?

>>211985957
I you don't even know the difference between enjoyment and quality, then you aren't equipped to discuss the topic

>>211985930 (OP)
imo whether it's captivating or not. an average to bad movie will have you wanting to skip through stuff. with a really good movie you sort of forget you're even watching it like how you might slip into a daydream

>>212010300
The bechdel test was originally coined as joke about how disconnected lesbians are from reality.

>>211986435
>>212009850
Kek, didn't see this post. Is your name Keith?

>>212010181
oh yeah, bud. people who crow about "midwits" all day definitely never think about politics. and definitely not on /tv/

>>212004624
Sure, as long as you don't say that the shit you like is good

>>212010173
>pretentious
you're the one who tried to put down an entire medium because it's "shallow".
>this pencil? SHALLOW!
>the sound waves? SHALLOW!
>words? SHALLOW!
>a series of pictures? SHALLOW!

inb4 "but i actually said I like music!"i don't care nerd

>>212010373
>no one mentions politics
>UR TALKIN ABOT POLITICS

>>211986834
Kys retard. Go watch MTV
>>211988515
A visual medium used to tell stories

>>211988447
This

>>211986096
That's fine. As long as they don't pretend to discuss them or to claim they are good

>>211988663
The shots, framing, and general ability to tell a story visually falls under cinematography. The rest is editing.
Good films spend a lot of time planning out each shot such that you can freeze frame nearly any random moment in the film (even if the camera is moving) and the lighting, framing, focus, etc, will make it look like a well taken photograph (in the sense of artistic sensibility, not simply technical competency).

>>212010388

It's shallow because it's a stone's throw from brainrot. You watch life happen rather than infusing the art with your life. I honestly believe we would be better off if movies/tv had never been invented. They've turned everyone into passive slugs who live vicariously through what they watch and are incapable of agency or creativity in their own lives, merely emulation.

>>211985957
fpbp

>>212010497
Stop getting your opinions from youtube

>>211986352
That metric begins and ends inside the confines of your skull, tho.
It has no value at all once written/vocalized

>>211988396
Internal consistency, impeccable cause-effect and logic are a must.
Storytelling ahs a grammar, it's engineeristic, not emotional

>>212010586
>ahs

>>211988860
In the scoring industry, those moments are informally referred to as “rescue missions”.
But the music does a lot of heavy lifting even when it’s not exciting. Those are just the moments you notice because the music is bigger and more prominent. The most important role music plays is usually in the places that you don’t notice it’s even there.

>>211988860
No one would ever claim the resident evil movies are good

>>212010498
>It's shallow because it's a stone's throw from brainrot.
>It's shallow because... because... it just is ok?!
tell me about all the complex calculations you perform when listening to music or looking at a painting. in fact following the plot and understanding it requires more higher brain processing than simply being bombarded by sensations. you're a pseud. a pseudy pseud. a silly pseud and should stop talking about art right now until you've matured. let's say until you're 18 years of age ok?

>>211989448
no that's shallo shit, faggot. You are basically saying that all that matters in the movies are the vibes you get from it.
plot holes maeas your movie is built like shit.

>>212010656

It isn't "complex calculations", it's about how other forms of art are infused with our life, while movies attempt to encapsulate and depict it entirely. When you watch a movie you leave real life and enter another one. Meanwhile a painting is a fixture in your house and music is something you listen to while doing something. It works with, rather than taking you out of it. You need to add something to other art in order for it to be complete and that makes it higher brow.

Movies are cheap slop meant to entertain the bored and idle. They have never helped with anything and have only been a distraction and a form of propaganda and indoctrination. Most movies that you think were great were literally just carried by the music and you don't even realize it, if you put a circus clown tune on top of any movie it's impossible for it to be good.

>>211989512
Actions of characters and directio nfo the story must make sense, faggot.
>>211994632
Definitely
>>212005453
It doesn't make it any less true or adamentine, invader.
All problem caused by your crusade against normality and nature

Another day, another thread in which plotfags are completely btfo
It's good to be a cinematographychad

>>212010755
>It doesn't make it
any more embarrassing? It certainly does!

>>211985930 (OP)
>ctrl-f
>car chase
Disastrous state of /tv/ - Television & Film.
Your movie needs a car chase, or reasonable parallel for one given it's setting or historical context.

>>212004565
Like what?
Is this a "nothing is exploding=yawn" typo of comment?

>>212004650
I like this statement

>>212005405
no they aren't

>>212010997
Name one that isn't and why.

if its boring. no matter the artistry or budget. nothing of value, miserable, sleep inducing. even action movies can be boring. a movie can be 'bad' but not boring

>>212010940
movies with intense amounts of padding to hide the fact they only had enough budget for about 15 minutes of actual movie.

>>212011053
>even action movies can be boring.
Dear god. I hate this place so much.

>>212011048
>narrative
does it make sense is an objective yes/no
>casting
does it make sense is an objective yes/no
>acting
is it convincing is an objective yes/no
>dialogue
does it make sense is an objective yes/no
>direction
good/bad direction can result in any/all other factors being nonsensical
>aesthetic
does it make sense is an objective yes/no
>editing
good/bad editing can result in any/all other factors being nonsensical.

and, no, "its nonsensical on purpose" isn't a shield for failure of any/all factors.

>>211985930 (OP)
this

>>212010402
gosh, it sure is interesting how you've chosen to nitpick one particular word I used rather than addressing the broader meaning of my comment. that kind of reminds me of something someone said earlier in this thread...

>>212011092
when your IQ is over 75, a bunch of shit happening on screen won't distract you from the fact there's no reason for any of it. Infants will be mesmerized by boobah or whatever the fuck, which is essentially what empty action movies look like to anyone who isn't borderline retarded.

>>212011193
bringing up politics when no one else did is something to be mocked, yes.

>>212011203
He said "EVEN action movies can be boring" implying that they're the most engaging.
My point is that ALL action movies are boring unless you're a fucking retarded American cunt.

>>212011272
oh... oh... you're brown, i get it now.

to a non-ESL, the phrase "even action movies" is referencing how "action" and "boring" are antonyms.

>>212011235
you're fuming because I nailed your identity to a T

>>211986042
If you want a compelling narrative then go pick up a book, nerd

>>212011322
you've made up a situation in your head and instantly chose to believe it because it pleases your little ego.

>>212011316
This doesn't change what I said you fucking burgerbrained dunce.

>>212010753
that's a finely polished piece of shit you dumped here. you might have the markings of a true artist after all!

>>212011381
>pointing out how I misunderstood a foreign language doesn't mean I misunderstood a foreign language

where does ESL confidence come from?

>>212011412
He's right, you idiot XD

>>212010795
Go to bed Snyder

>>212011441
>he's
oh right, it comes from ESL lack of self-awareness.

>>212010805
>NO U

>>212011441
>He's right, you idiot XD
Americans are so dumb, you can't even argue with them!

>>212011075
That's nice. Like what movie?

>>212011499
movies like what deathproof was satirizing.

I'm not really surprised that people including /tv/ think movies are just sensory noise. Being able to process information is a skill that has to be acquired.

>>211985930 (OP)
that attitude was more true back in the old days before piracy became easy online. back then you had to watch stuff on tv or rent what was available. you had to be lucky to have a well curated video store with artsy stuff, cult stuff, international good ones, awarded shit etc and you had to fucking pay was it 10 bucks each location of course. anyways the way it was for me i was using my imagination to make the movie work for me, fill in the gaps where it was lacking sort to speak, focus on the inspired parts , the effect it made me think about: i was working with it. like using your imagination while playing old games with very low graphic.
the more movies you have access to, the more you see well the more you become discerning, less easily amazed, can discern the better parts of it all. and when one of em have too many lesser parts it makes a lesser "whole" = a bad movie compared to the better ones. bada boom bada bing.

>>212011487
we can tell you're replying to yourself, ESL-san

>>211985957
Shut the board down they know

>>212011571
>using my imagination to make the movie work for me

i did that for a short while when i was a child and realized I was exerting more effort than the cast/crew to make shit movies tolerable.

>>211985930 (OP)
There is nothing fun about the actual physical act of watching a movie. All the enjoyment is in your brain.

>>212011580
>>ESL
>>His first language is Ameriseethe
YCMIU!

>>211985930 (OP)
It's very subjective.
A lot of the time when people post their top 3 movies it's because they want to give other people the impression that they're intellectuals or have a flair for the artistic. It's very rarely honest.
I watch so many movies that I can't easily think what my favourite movies of all time are anymore.

>>212011680
That's true for all activities. Just because you enjoy something more physical doesn't mean everyone does or that it's more objectively pleasant or rewarding, and if a guy enjoys shoving nails through his balls you must accept that his perspective is equally correct as yours.

>>212011755
okay rajeet.

>>212011830
>That's true for all activities
it really isn't, unless you go so far with this logic that endorphins from physical exertion/pain are also "in your brain."

>>212011755
ADS

>>212012045
NLJP

There's good movies, bad movies, and retroactively bad movies.

I've watched movies, liked them and then grown to dislike them the more I think about them. But there's no such as a movie that I thought was bad and then warmed up to liking much later.

>>212012094
>there's no such as a movie that I thought was bad and then warmed up to liking much later.
No that would involve some sort of personal growth and admitting you were wrong.

>>212012158
prequelfag detected

>>212012158
When I made that post I wasn't counting shit I hated as a kid because it was "people talking with no action" that I like now as an adult, so good point.

>>212012016
Tell me, what activities do YOU like that you can perform while being unconscious? Physical activities like sports require a ton of brainpower but even though you can't really verbalise those processes they're still tied to your brain just like your enjoyment of it is.

>>212012554
>what activities do YOU like that you can perform while being unconscious

you tried so hard to win an internet argument you forgot about dreams.

>>212012609
>what activities do YOU like that you can perform while being unconscious
pwning idiots on 4chan

>>211985930 (OP)
1. Dialog: if the lines sound off not even good actors can save them
2. Acting: the performances must feel authentic and believable not like clumsy recital of cue cards
3. Props: costumes, backgrounds and anything else must adhere to a certain style and quality
4. KINO: shot selecting and framing for a motion picture should at least by above average and somewhat deliberate and cinematic in nature or the movie will look boring
5. Plot: something must be happening and it should be entertaining, this is the most subjective point. All the others are objective but writing really comes down to personal preference more than actual quality for most people.

That's about it. This is all very clear and simple. Soundtrack can elevate a movie but generally doesn't matter much and rarely is bad enough to ruin a movie.

>>211986042
Plotfags seething as usual
>>212004372
100% right

>>211985930 (OP)
I like how no one in these threads ever notices that he's indicating his own capacity to discern good films from bad, by saying 10% of the time he doesn't think "i had fun watching a movie."

>>211985930 (OP)
You can objectively analyze qualities of a film, but whether those qualities are considered "good" or "bad" is entirely subjective. The only people who disagree do not understand the meaning of objective.

All you can take away is your personal feelings on the matter. You may consider another person's taste unevolved, childish, and simplistic (I certainly feel that way about many others). But at the end of the day, it just you feelings.

>>212013192
>>211986272

>>212013562
>at the end of the day, it just you feelings
Got this cool new shirt from Japan. Check it out!

>>212013614
That is what I get for phoneposting. I wouldnt have made that mistake on my computer.

>>212014184
I’ve watched my phone autocorrect something to something wrong ten words later.

>>212009967
>a movie has never inspired anything other than passive imagination.
Actual retard, holy shit.

>>211985930 (OP)
honestly he's right. Most movies are not bad but also not great, just enjoyable enough. He said 90%, not 100%, so he does know some genuinely good movies. There are a lot of bad movies out there but once they get the bad reviews, most people don't watch them, so I rarely see an actual bad movie. So basically 2% of movies I watch are bad, 8% are good, and 90% are neither good nor bad but are enjoyable.
>>211985957
but I like most movies I watch. Now that's probably selection bias, since before I watch a movie I've usually seen trailers and asked /tv/ if it's good, but of the movies I choose to watch, I enjoy most of them. And then a small number of those are ones where it's a truly good movie, but even the ones that aren't, are good enough to be enjoyable.

>>212016799
that anon is just describing his own experience as someone incapable of being creatively inspired

>>212010369
Nah, I lived in Russia ~25 years ago, cinema was rare and I was probably 10 when they run it in my home town. I don't even remember dutch angles and Fort Knox gold bars
Another good movie is Mad Max Fury road saw it twice with my soon to be wife

>>212017363
all i'm getting from this post is ESLs loved fury road

>>212017046
>I rarely see an actual bad movie
OK, to prove that you're not just an easily amused, low IQ tastelette, post the last five movies you watched. Good or bad, just so long as they don't fit into that 2% of movies you consider bad and unenjoyable.