How can Han Solo not believe in the force? - /tv/ (#212004024) [Archived: 867 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:59:48 AM No.212004024
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Han solo was born in 29 BBY... Ten years before Luke and Leia were born. The Galactic Republic was, for all intents and purposes, intact... at least superficially... for the first nine or ten years of his life. The republic had at least a modicum of political ties to the Jedi Order, which was obviously centered entirely around the force. While Solo doesn't come off as the kind of guy to be politically minded and plaster the back of the Millennium Falcon with bumper stickers, he had to be familiar enough with the workings of government to know who to avoid and which worlds were safe and so forth. If that same government was tied to the force and there were loads of Jedi Knights still around when he was a kid, how the heck does he not believe it exists?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:06:22 PM No.212004134
>>212004024 (OP)
Because the prequels were badly written garbage
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:06:35 PM No.212004142
>>212004024 (OP)
Are you aware of the existence of Shaolin monks? Do you also think that Chi exists? I know it's a slightly different case because the force demonstrably does exist in the star wars universe, but if you've never seen it happen why would you believe it?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:07:09 PM No.212004149
>>212004024 (OP)
i get what you're saying, but why the fuck did you besmirch him be putting him in front of a troon flag? maybe him not believing in the force is incongruent, but putting him in front of that flag is just low and uncalled for
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:07:23 PM No.212004152
>>212004024 (OP)
trans solo haha nice meme
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:10:31 PM No.212004196
>>212004134
This. Star Wars isn't even visually fresh and interesting at that point, it's just LOOKIT MORE SPACESHIPS AND LIGHTSABERS memberberries shittery. There's like 20 minutes of interesting ideas in the entire prequel trilogy.\

Turns out letting the craftsmen go was a mistake.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:20:51 PM No.212004379
>>212004152
Hope Solo to you chud
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:50:27 PM No.212004839
>>212004196
>There's like 20 minutes of interesting ideas in the entire prequel trilogy.\
It's the other way around, there's 20 minutes NOT interesting, the Gungans shit and their napoleonic battle in the plain that serve zero purpose.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:52:37 PM No.212004874
>>212004024 (OP)
Watto from some bumfuck planet knows about Jedi and mind tricks but Han Solo doesn't? How tf does that work?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:56:05 PM No.212004924
Could Han have been bluffing because he knew the old man he met in the seedy bar with a sketchy fugitive style request might have been bullshitting him? I didn’t see Solo but if it was as sloppy as the other Disney slop it probably created more plot holes than it answered questions that didn’t need answering.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:59:18 PM No.212004968
>>212004024 (OP)
>"I have a bad feeling about this,"
He was also Force sensitive and I'd even argue that R2-D2 possibly could've been too.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:32:09 PM No.212005493
>>212004839
What about Anakin's, Padme's, and the droid's platforming videogame cutscene in the droid factory in Episode II? Just as an example.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:33:32 PM No.212005516
>>212004024 (OP)
This has been answered on here 500 times. Kill yourself tranny.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:38:08 PM No.212005631
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>>212004142
If they were generals in WWIII blasting fools away with magic and leading forces until the Emperor of the galaxy kills them all during their failed coup, everyone would know.
They're not some mildly known tourist attraction monks in some bumfuck country, they're in a monumental ziggurat next to the galactic government.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:42:50 PM No.212005723
Wasn’t he an imperial officer?
Wouldn’t they be debriefed on the dangers of force users since some might have escaped order 66?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:46:48 PM No.212005797
>>212005493
That was a basic action scene, and at least it didn't feel like a totally different kids' comedy show.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:49:02 PM No.212005832
>>212005631
There's also only 10,000 of them in a galaxy of quintillions . Most people never met one. Everyone knew the jedi existed, Han thought the rumours of their abilities were greatly exaggerated. Is it that hard for you to wrap your faggot mind around?
>>212005723
You're fucking retarded.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:51:19 PM No.212005881
>>212004134
You’re correct but also ANH has Obi Wan talking about Luke’s father being a great Jedi knight so the Jedi should still be in living memory for people like Han
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:53:55 PM No.212005932
>>212004024 (OP)
The Empire wiped them out and suppressed information about them. Note that the one Imperial officer Vader chokes calls the force an “ancient religion” rather than talking about it like an actual practice. Clearly the average joe in this universe thinks the Jedi some archaic religious order, they have no idea they actually had abilities.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:54:51 PM No.212005956
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>>212005881

>Millions of worlds
>thousands of trillions of beings
>no centralized media sharing information
>muh-everyone should know
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:55:44 PM No.212005974
>>212004024 (OP)
how many FUCKING TIMES are you going to make this goddamned thread a day?
SERIOUSLY
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:56:43 PM No.212005998
>>212005881
People know they existed you fucking faggot halfwit.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:57:39 PM No.212006018
>>212004142
people today believe 911 didn't happen. the empire is a propaganda machine with basically unlimited resources and no - real - regulatory bodies
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:58:51 PM No.212006038
>>212005998
And given how recent this was, it should also be in living memory that they had abilities. They weren’t famous for being monks.
Calm the fuck down, by the way, it’s just a movie.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:58:51 PM No.212006039
i meant to send this >>212006018 to this anon >>212005631
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:59:58 PM No.212006064
>>212005956
He’s a former imperial officer from a core world and works as a smuggler traveling all over. And they do clearly have centralized media, Luke on his backwater knows about the rebellion and the clone wars
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:00:24 PM No.212006075
>>212005832
They've been around for thousands of years. You can make all kinds of excuses, but it makes no sense for it not to be common knowledge that they have magic powers. It would be like me not believing that countries have presidents and kings because I've never met one personally.
The Jedi are not secretive at all, they're right there in the heart of the city-planet, and they travel and meddle in everything, including the giant war. There would be video recordings and countless eyewitnesses, and historical records and news items stretching back however many tens of thousands of years all over the galaxy. You can't wipe that out in a few decades lol, and clearly the Empire doesn't even have total control, given that the rebels remain fairly powerful, with support all over. And in any case, Han was alive before any kind of purge of information was done.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:02:04 PM No.212006121
>>212006018
The vast majority of people believe al-Qaeda was behind it. The Empire was really young, whereas the Republic and the Jedi were like ten thousand years old.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:02:09 PM No.212006124
>>212006038
>it should also be in living memory that they had abilities
And it is you stupid fuck. How many times in how many ways do you need it explained to you? If you're actually this retarded you should just kill yourself.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:02:52 PM No.212006137
>>212004024 (OP)
He said he doesn’t believe in the force. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t accept that people have certain abilities. His line is that he doesn’t believe in some universal forces binding everything together. He may well be familiar with the legend of the Jedi and their weird powers, he just doesn’t think this doddering old man and this kid can tap into whatever they were doing back in the Clone Wars.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:03:53 PM No.212006168
>>212006124
Do you always get this upset over children’s movies
If it’s within memory that they existed and had powers, him flatly denying it is weird
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:04:30 PM No.212006186
>>212006121
do you know how in the USSR when someone fell out of the grace of The Party, thy removed them from photos and whatnot? People first didn't really believe they never existed first, they were afraid to question it. But when you keep repeating a lie long enough, it becomes your reality. Completely rewriting 10000 years of history in 30 years is the least fantastic element of stars war
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:06:02 PM No.212006220
>>212006075
>simple tricks and nonsense
Han is a fucking cynic. He's heard all the stories of the jedi and their magical abilities but he's never seen it so he thinks it's all exaggerations and tricks.
There are people who deny covid lockdowns ever happened and that was just a few years ago with endless articles and footage to back it up. For fucks sake faggot.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:09:12 PM No.212006296
>>212006168
He doesn't fucking deny it though.
Im not upset at the movie you stupid fuck. It's you and you inability to comprehend what's been explained to you by at least 4 people in this thread already.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:10:25 PM No.212006318
>>212006296
You clearly are a little upset my guy
Also I’m not the guy you were replying to earlier
He literally does deny their powers though, maybe rewatch the scene
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:13:36 PM No.212006390
>>212006186
And Han believed Imperial propaganda of all things when they suddenly began scrubbing Jedi powers from videos taken during his younger years? He must have had other sources of more trusted news, let's face it. It's believable that Han wouldn't believe everything about the Jedi if the Jedi weren't so prominent and so ancient. It just makes no sense. If the Jedi actually were some kind of semi-secretive cult like those scenes make them seem, it would make sense. But this is just one of those things that doesn't match between the prequels and the OG trilogy.
>>212006220
Something like Covid is not comparable to a ten thousand year old institution of magic users who save the galaxy all the time. It's more like not believing that China exists.
I'm amused by your Star Wars nerd rage though.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:46:05 PM No.212007091
>>212005956
The jedi worked all over the galaxy fighting battles, trading and brokering treaties. A very active smuggler would know who all the players are
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:55:00 PM No.212007313
>>212006124
The space war boy is having a melty