Why would George want to stick this scene back in? It adds nothing and just unnecessarily puts the brakes on the pacing. How did he have more sense as a younger filmmaker? Listening to his rationale that the actor was a stand in for what Jabba would be but they ran out of time was a laughable lie.

>>212004748
>role desciption: A stand in for a disgustingly fat slug that will be completely VFX but you need to be disgustingly fat and look a bit like a slug so that uh, the other actor has your nasty grossness to react to

>>212004748
He just wanted to ruin the OT as much as possible because he hates it and the fanbase. He literally had the original negatives destroyed so that people could only watch his mutilated version.

>>212004811
In that same interview he said the original negatives were deteriorating and they needed to do this to save them. Not, you know, restoring the original negatives, preserving them and then making a special edition.
How did he change his views so significantly in less than a decade?

>>212004811
What's not to hate, the OT states the Empire is bad. We know as 4chan/tv/ posters that empires don't have to be bad, so the Empire doesn't have to be bad. The prequels show us that the Republic was bad, so the Empire wasn't bad anymore. That means they're the superior films, because the Empire is good, like all Empires. QED

>>212004705 (OP)
It’s a weird scene since all the information is already given to the audience by Greedo
It’s just repetitive
Also he’s just hanging out behind the bar waiting for solo? Like he sends in greedo and then just waits around

>>212004915
Spite

>>212004931
You joke but this is probably the rationale behind some of our resident prequelchuds.

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>>212004811
>He just wanted to ruin the OT as much as possible because he hates it and the fanbase. He literally had the original negatives destroyed so that people could only watch his mutilated version.

100% corrrect.

Also from 2015

CITIZEN LUCAS!!!FACT!!!

George Lucas dropped himself into shit by running his mouth off at Disney (during an interview with Charlie Rose) over Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens, referring to them as “white slavers” in regards to their handling of the child he sold to them in exchange for four billion dollars, which also included Lucasfilm, LucasArts, Industrial Light & Magic, Skywalker Sound and Indiana Jones.

Afterwards Turkeyneck had to release a “special edition” of his comment where he claims to have misspoke and apologized but you know what’s really bothering him? A Star Wars movie was made without his involvement to huge financial success and it’s burning him up inside because even at this stage in life, George Lucas is and always has been a money grubbing control freak.

On the outside he’s cold and detached but, speaking as someone who was also born under the zodiac sign of the Taurus, under this exterior lays a strong-willed character with great perseverance, determination and passion who occasionally shovels out a lot of fucking bullshit!

One of the things that always confused me about the prequels was the reason why Lucas decided to Direct them when he hadn’t sat in the Director’s chair since making the first Star Wars? Over the years I thought it was because he was worried that either someone would make better movies than him, as Irvin Kershner did with The Empire Strikes Back, or that he just didn’t want to share a slice of the box office pie with whoever helmed them.

>>212006021

But Lucas is the type of guy who doesn’t do something unless he has a burning desire to and I now realize what that was.

Born in Modesto California, Lucas was an angry and repressed boy living with his parents and under the thumb of his Conservative Father which fueled George’s lifelong anti-authoritarianism. After high school he went to USC (University of Southern California) in the late 60’s where he found his vocation as an editor/filmmaker, eventually coming under the tutelage of Francis Ford Coppola with whom he co-founded American Zoetrope. During this time George met Marcia Griffin, a fellow editor, who he fell in love with and married while becoming friends with some of the most influential filmmakers of that time such as Steven Spielberg, Brian DePalma, Martin Scorsese, John Milius and Paul Schrader among others.

This was the height of Lucas’ success as he had nurturing support and healthy criticism from his near and dear while fandom regarded him as a God. But each movie that George Lucas has Directed reveals a piece of the puzzle that is his psyche as it unravels from idealistic youth to embittered old man living in his own Xanadu known as Skywalker Ranch.

THX 1138 was a feature film version of the award winning short film that brought Lucas to Coppola’s attention. In an underground futuristic Orwellian dystopia, THX 1138 is a worker drone emotionally controlled by the state. He’s brought out of his conditioned conformity by LUH 3417 with whom he makes love, which is forbidden, and inspires THX to escape onto the sunlit surface of the Earth. The thesis of the film is that emotion, love and sexuality can help free your mind and reflects George’s relationship with Marcia during those early days.

>>212006041

Unfortunately the movie bombed which is why Lucas changed gears and made American Graffiti. Now pushing 30, George’s reflective film was a nostalgic elegy for his childhood, set in 1962 before the cultural/political upheaval that later took place in the United States, about the fear and uncertainty a group of teens feel towards their upcoming graduation as adulthood beckons. The movie was a massive hit, giving George success far surpassing that of his Father but he now had bigger competition in the form of his former mentor Coppola who had become one of the most exalted filmmakers on the planet with The Godfather.

Lucas had no expectations with Star Wars, was convinced it was going to bomb and hoped that he could make more money than Francis with toy sales. In the end he made a movie that had more cultural impact that any other in cinema history not to mention the vast fortune he amassed from it. But despite its simple black and white, good versus evil plotline mined from mythology, it still feels like a deeply personal film that people have mistaken for a Vietnam allegory but is actually about his relationship with Coppola and Hollywood.

Luke Skywalker is a disaffected young man living in a cultural wasteland and spends his time hot rodding as Lucas did in Modesto. Longing for more in life, he comes into contact with young woman (Leia/Marcia) who leads him to an older sage (Ben/Francis) who takes him on an adventure to defeat the ruling class (Empire/Hollywood) and by using smaller equipment and fewer resources, the Rebels/Artists are able to take down the Death Star which could be seen as a metaphor for the Studio System who were trying to squash independent filmmakers with an original vision.

>>212006062

And even though he didn’t Direct them, you can still feel Lucas throughout Empire and Jedi. Now in a position of power himself, Luke/George is pursued by the Empire/Hollywood who wants him to serve them. The most significant scene in Empire is the vision in the cave when Luke decapitates Vader. This foreshadows the danger of Luke becoming like Vader, an authoritarian who is revealed to be his Father as Lucas must have been concerned that his drive for success was turning him into that which he rebelled against during his childhood. But by the time Jedi was released there was no happy ending as Lucas had turned to the Darkside which is why, on the surface, he paints a rosy picture of good defeating evil with the Ewoks being his subtextual comparison to the end of the Vietnam War and Luke rejecting the Emperor. But the reality is that even though a system of control was eliminated, another one would inevitably take its place just as the Hollywood moguls of old made way for the younger generation, like Lucas who aspired to not make the same mistakes and, in the end, replicated them while lying to himself in order to justify his actions.

It’s also noteworthy that by the end of the original trilogy Luke had lost Leia as a love interest just as Marcia left George soon after finishing Return of the Jedi as he became wound tighter due to his need to maintain success. This is why he’s more Turkeyneck now than man. Twisted and evil.

>>212006089

During his hiatus from Directing, Lucas made some half-assed attempts at Producing films such as Howard the Duck, Willow and The Radioland Murders, all of which tanked. Then in 1994 he announced that he was going to be doing new Star Wars movies utilizing the latest digital technology which he claimed would allow him to make them the way he always dreamed of. Lying to one’s self is the beginning to the path of darkness and by the time the 90’s rolled around Lucas was also at ease with lying to the public.

Lucas originally saw the incredible success of Star Wars and its technological advances as something that he could use to transform cinema. But by the time the “Special Editions” of the OT were released it was clear that the new blockbuster system he helped to created had changed him and now he not only hated Star Wars but despised its fans. He would stick the knife in with Greedo shooting first and then twist it with Jar Jar Binks. This is because despite being a good idea man, Lucas just never really had anything to say and the only thing that ever really drove him was surpassing the success of his Father figures while maintaining his anti-authoritarian stance in a form of FUCK THE MAN! posturing. But as the 80’s wore on he began to strip himself of the people who helped guide him which is why, with the help of his wife and friends, Star Wars was filled with warmth and humanity unlike the prequels which are cold and lifeless.

>>212005942
Its true, chuds go fucking mad when the empire is portrayed as evil now and even consider any criticism of Palpatine as an attack on Drumpf

>>212006117

Lucas could have hired more capable people to Write and Direct new Star Wars movies but he was determined to do them himself because he really did have something he wanted to say. At first I thought Anakin was supposed to be the Christ Child, born from an immaculate conception and destined to free the slaves ala Moses. But in reality he’s now the character George identifies with; a child without a Father figure who tinkers with technology as he himself had regressed, making the Phantom Menace into an infantile mess over reliant on cartoonish caricatures such as Jar Jar.

And while the crux of THX 1138 was about a man ascending into a new world through love and emotion, the Turkeyneck of today sees love as being a destructive force that brings people to ruin as it did to Anakin Skywalker. The Emperor in the Prequels is STAR WARS itself who used Anakin’s ambition against him, destroyed his marriage and employed him to eradicate the Jedi/Cinema with a clone army (JJ Abrams, Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, Paul “What Script?”Anderson, Len Wiseman etc….) to ensure the domination of his new Empire which he also did out of spite because “They don’t give Academy Awards to popular films” as Lucas commented to Charlie Rose in a blatant lie which was reminiscent of Anakin bitching about being allowed on the Jedi council yet not being given the rank of Master as Lucas no doubt see's himself, having never won an Oscar.

I can't believe I am agreeing with the CreepyThinMan

>>212004748
>How did he have more sense as a younger filmmaker?
He didn't
He was always an ideas man with a fucking god-tier sense for VFX direction and invoking nostalgia in his audience. His actual output had to be propped up and filtered through by people with an actual sense of coherent story telling in order to be digestible.

>>212006139
>Its true, chuds go fucking mad when the empire is portrayed as evil now and even consider any criticism of Palpatine as an attack on Drumpf

No, you're just projecting your faggotry onto others.

No one cares if the Empire is portrayed as evil and because you used the word "Chud" everyone can comfortably ignore anything your have to say.

Then there's how you fucking losers keep bringing it up that Drumpf was his grandfathers last name before he changed it while Donald was born with the name Trump unlike every other Jew who changes their names so that people don't notice how many there are controlling various institutions.

Personally I think he's a cockroach but you're soo fucking pathetic and petty that you throw words around like you would in grade school which you never emotionally developed beyond and will die alone, unloved and forgotten!!!FACT!!!

>>212006021
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>>212006366

WHY THE FUCK DID GEORGE INCLUDE THE SCENE OF HIM STEPPING OVER FUCKING CHEWBACCA'S TAIL?

JUST FUCKING TAKE SOME B ROLL OF A CLOSE UP OF CHEWIES FACE AND CUT TO IT OR SOMETHING FUCKING HELL

>>212006302
It's always been said his wife (and Francis Ford Coppola if the rumours are true) had an influence in in the editing room and I assume he was talked out of putting that superfluous scene in. Surely whoever convinced him to cut it made sense at the time so what changed?

>>212004705 (OP)
I feel bad for the actor, cut out of Star Wars history. I hope he made some money at some star wars conventions.

There must of been a good 10, 15 years where he would tell people he was in star wars and everyone thought he was bullshitting.

>>212006397
creepythinman is a pillar of this community.

>>212004705 (OP)
it's fine, AI can always fix the line and generate a shot of one of jabba's thugs to replace the tail stepping bit

>>212006557
The only scenes Marcia Lucas edited were the final battle and all the scenes with Biggs and Luke and SHE fought to keep them in the movie. It was George who wanted to cut them, and since George was the director and had final cut approval any change like deleting a scene was always George's choice to make. She also fought to keep the Jabba scene in, it was George who cut it back in the 70s.
>>212006557
>(and Francis Ford Coppola if the rumours are true)
What rumors? Coppola was the only one of George's friends who liked that first draft script he wrote (where Han Solo was an alien and it ended with the Wookiee planet and so on.) He had nothing to do with the editing. What are you talking about?

Look I know where you've got this from but it's a bullshit internet myth. The production of Star Wars, including the editing, is absurdly well documented - I'm talking down to a forensic level of detail. That whole narrative that the movie was crap and got magically saved by the editors/George's ex-wife/George's film-maker friends is pure horseshit - it's just Star Wars making shit up on the internet cause they didn't like something.

>>212004705 (OP)
>>212004793
George is a retard

>>212006366
Wow, really made you weep with "Drumpf" huh

Drumpf.

>>212006557
Marcia saved SW in the editing room. George's main reason for creating the god awful special edition was to undo all her cuts out of pure spite, because he couldn't bear that she got an oscar and he didn't, and that she kept getting royalties for SW.

>>212004748
He wanted to include it back in the day but hated the actor's performance. So he tried to replace it with a stop motion creature back in the 70s but couldn't because of the way he'd shot it. The whole "the actor was a stand-in for Jabba despite being in full costume" thing was a lie but a white lie to not publicly call the actor shitty.

This is from Paul Hirsch's autobiography. He ended up being the main editor on Star Wars and Lucas was so impressed with him that he was the only editor on Empire (and he's generally well regarded in the industry to this day.) So this isn't from some official Lucasfilm book that Lucas had to sign off on this is probably the real story.

>>212007218
Yeah that's so obviously bullshit that even Marcia Lucas herself came out of the woodwork semi-recently to say it's obviously complete bullshit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSj3MOh8OzM

Also you're talking about residuals, not royalties. And you can't stop paying someone residuals (or royalties) by lightly re-editing a movie 20 years after the fact, that's not how residuals work. Oh, and film editors aren't entilted to residuals anyway meaning whoever created this dumb myth has no idea how the film industry works.

>>212006366
>you throw words around like you would in grade school which you never emotionally developed beyond and will die alone, unloved and forgotten!!!FACT!!!
cannot be disputed

>>212004811
He didn't though? He cut the new scenes and effects into the negative (after chemically restoring them) but it's the same negative. Look I don't like the special editions much either (I maintain the vfx fixes and the subtler changes are fine though and do improve the movies a bit but the trade-offs really aren't worth it) but I don't get why people feel the need to make shit up about it in order to hate it even more