What went wrong with Valerian?

meme leads

>>212029094 (OP)
stiff leads

no idea honestly, the movie's fine. i don't think it's worse than the 5th element

Were they supposed to look like siblings?

>>212029214
They don't look related at all, pajeet.

>>212029094 (OP)
Rejected by critics during the height of DEI bullshit. Just look at these two fags>>212029162 >>212029168 and know that this was the standard response when a cast has whites and almost no brownoids.

>>212029341
Not those fags bit both of the cast are trash, especially the nepo baby uggo bitch and they as well as meathead rhianna ruined the movie.
Kino intro though.
Soon as you see a movie and it has meme casts like that bitch or some pop singer, you know its gonna be shit

>>212029094 (OP)
Well isn't that the question of the day?

>>212029094 (OP)
a quote from the guy who created valerian and bank rolled the whole movie mentioned that he intentionally torpedoed the movie/plot in order to attack white men

The male and female leads look identical like it’s a Mike myers movie or something

>>212029094 (OP)
fake actors in the lead roles. I guarantee this would have been a hit with real actors.

>>212029247
cross your slinted brown eyes Juan la Puta Rodriguez

cara was too cute

>>212029094 (OP)
Too much stuff going on at once, it should've been a TV show.

Needed a female lead with juicy knockers and a male lead with full hair

Cara was at the vanguard of weird looking actresses with disastrous eyebrows

>>212029214
>>212029584
>two white people look alike
No shit, brownoids. Bet you wanted some fucking groid or even a pajeet as a male lead with Cara. This would made the movie "kino", yeah?

>>212029914
please seek help

>>212029914
Lol

>>212029909
so kyoot

>>212029162
This. And Rhianna. Right casting and its Fifth Element 2.0.

>>212029094 (OP)
>What went wrong with Valerian?

I like this film.

>>212030466
a flop loved by weirdos on the internet?

>>212029094 (OP)
too french.

>>212029341
wypipo can do better than these 2 as leads you know it

>>212029094 (OP)
>What went wrong with Valerian?
everything after the first ten minutes

>>212030721
fifth element was a hit zoomie

>>212029214
Yes. I applaud them for being so daring to make an incest story

We all know the leads were repelled but what caused Besson to decide to use with them instead of someone magnetic like Bruce Willis? I think the answer is a misplaced newfound confidence in 'French'. The leads look like French people.

>>212031339
*repellent

>>212029341
yeah the problem must be anti-white racism and not the male lead looking like an effeminate 12yo and the female lead being some talentless nepo baby whore

>>212031506
male leads need to be big hunky sexy men ok!

>>212031530
it is that simple

>>212029094 (OP)
It was mediocre and the leads drove people away.

>>212031339
>what caused Besson to decide to use with them instead of someone magnetic like Bruce Willis?
see
>>212029548
he said he intentionally cast an unlikeable male lead to attack white people

>>212031530
yes, tranny, films should promote traditional gender roles and not degenerate androgyny where the only difference between the man and the woman is a haircut

>>212031530
for this series it probably should be a requirement, yeah

>>212029094 (OP)
>What went wrong with Valerian?

The main protagonist is unlikable and poorly cast and the plot meanders too much.

Special effects and designs are top notch though even if the CGI gets a little too busy in some of the action scenes. I think the movie is worth watching for the designs and effects alone.

>>212031657
>he said he intentionally cast an unlikeable male lead to attack white people
source

>>212031667
films should promote traditional roles from the last 20 years.

>>212031697
there's a hundred zillion bajillion movies that people tell me are worth watching just for the VFX. i am tired of watching fluid sims and pretending it's interesting after the first time

>>212031339
He cast by photos or resemblance to the comic book. Should've done chemistry tests cos they have none. Dehaan has never been more awkward wtf

I LIKE THIS MOVIE I LIKE CARA I LIKE THE LEAD GUY I LIKE THEM TOGETHER AND THEIR CHEMISTRY AND YOU CAN ALL SUCK MY DICK, YOU'RE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
I GOT A MILLION ON MY SOUL

>>212031711

>>212031704
look it up. he actually said to attack "masculinity" but everyone knows when a white liberal says that they only have a problem with straight white male masculinity

>>212029094 (OP)

Delavigne was kind of hot but she is emotionless as fuck on every part i´ve ever seen her play. Also the premise of them being the top agents is a very hard sell for me because they look too young. Kind of the same issue i have with Holland playing Nathan Drake, i see him as a kid and can´t take him even remotely seriously. It only works for Spiderman because Spidey is supposed to be a 15 year old kid.

>>212031657
>he said he intentionally cast an unlikeable male lead to attack white people

Pretty round about way of doing it. He could have cast a black dude in place of the white lead, that's the standard method.

>>212031711
grooming children into genital mutilation?

>>212031742

>>212031788
yes, got a problem?

>>212031742

I watch movies like that while I shit post on 4chan. That's the level of attention I'd recommend for Valerian. It runs in the background and occasionally grabs your attention with something neat looking.

>>212031787
see >>212031769

that would have meant he would have making a black male look bad which cant happen

>>212031769
so the source is you literally imagined it

>>212031793
sure is lucky that the middle majority of the world apparently goes to see all these films that live and die on their VFX even though they hate it

>>212031821
this is zoomer white girl behavior

>>212031839
ok, go the rest of your life "not knowing" because youre a retarded nigger

>>212031817
no i enjoy watching people suffer

>>212031846
that's literally, literally the case anon
people complain effects are worse than ever but still consume their slop
that's why appreciating Valerian's quality is the mark of a kinoking

>>212029341
No, they really were just bad casting choices and overall bad actors.

>>212031846
My main memory for when Avatar came out was everyone saying "wow the effects" and never anything about the plot. And if anyone did, it was that it was pretty whatever.

>>212031876
it's still slop

>>212031863

I'm 40. I've been multi tasking watching tv and using my laptop by my side for a decade.

A zoomette would be using a phone.

After seeing how much it was hated I expected the absolute worst but it was perfectly okay.

>>212031899
It's not, you can dislike it, but it's clearly not slop. You don't even know what that word means

>>212031868
i would rather be retarded than a dishonest kike that lies about what people said to besmirch them

>>212031903
yeah it's just another aimless, boring animated film with people pasted on top. it didn't have any marvel characters though, so people hated it

>>212031926
seething lmao, go watch more of your vfxslop

>>212031946
>herrrr duur if i insult him hell do my google search for me

you are nigger retarded anon

>>212031756
does the comic book character look 16 to you or just to besson? >>212031696 >>212031266
>its a prequel, he's meant to be not himself yet
they need to stop trying to pull that off. people hate that shit

>>212031963
I think I will, I'm rewatching the intro right now
then I'm going to watch the end where he makes out with her
then I'm going to watch the music video for Million on my Soul
Even though you're being mean and nasty I am going to share music kino with you
you can now performatively pretend to hate it while it seeps into your brain and you begrudging admit to yourself in a few days that yeah it slaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6l5ezErGuw&

>>212029341
Nonsense. First, Rihanna had top billing alongside Dane and Cara. Second, the problem was the casting. Cara is a nepo hire who can't act for shit, and Dane is a good character actor but was miscast in an action role as Bruce Willis's successor.

The movie might've been able to survivor Dane being miscast, but Cara guaranteed it was going to flop. Think back to everything you've ever seen her in. Has she ever not been bad? I don't even mean good, I mean has she ever been in a movie or show that she didn't make worse with her bad acting?

>>212032058
i would literally rather chew my own cock off than click on that link

>>212032010
what? you literally already admitted that you made it up. what's there to google?

>>212029094 (OP)
Cinematic fidelity is not a replacement for engaging well-written characters portrayed by quality actors.
Like the works of Zack, when the music stops blaring and people have to talk, the whole thing stinks like old fish.

>>212032096
you deny only yourself

>>212032119
you gorge on tubs nutrionless paste

>>212032101
people say this and yet my favorite thing about the movie was the leads
they were fun and different, sorry it wasn't the same Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence as every other fucken movie

I liked it. I have the same vacant grumpy pressence as the main characters

Ok we all agree the leads (also, I turned it off at big market it was just getting so convoluted and it was like the movie didn't even want me to follow it, I thought about just watching on without trying to keep track of things, let it wash over me, but that's when the leads did some more of their dynamic and i just was like nah), but
If we were going to replace the leads then, who could do it? Challenge is to cast someone from today. I don't even know someone I like. There is no Bruce Willis type now.

>>212032220
pattinson could have saved it

>>212032220
Emma Stone and Bradley Cooper. Don't @ me

how would you fix the casting? my vote for the male lead

>>212032220
chalamet and zendaya

>>212029214
kek why did this post get so shat on? They look like believable siblings

Imagine having less chemistry than these two.

>>212032236
solid option actually since he's like 40 now as the character should be, playing against, i dunno late 20s? woman

>>212032337
umm chuddy, a 40 year old male with a late 20s woman is giving pedophilia

>>212032383
who's receiving?

>>212032149
Your lead actors should have SOME sort of chemistry between them, comedic, romantic, SOMETHING. They shouldn't be just blankly reading scripts at one another like they are in separate green screen stages.

>>212032292
and there is nothing wrong with that

>>212029548
>t.poojeet

>>212032438
yes, that's what I'm saying, they had tons of chemistry

>>212029094 (OP)
Nobody cares about French boomer slop.

>>212029094 (OP)
Bad casting. Nothing wrong with the actors individually, but the 4chan poster didn't suit the role and together they had no chemistry.

>>212032292
a lot of hate itt

>>212033117
>they had tons of chemistry
Lol no.

>>212033299
it should have starred Zendaya and Ryan Gosling

1. Bad pacing
2. A lot of scenes of the under city were shit and feel very dated now
3. It wasn't fun

>>212032280
I would have rather had Armie Hammer, macavoy now is decently based but back then he was closer to his gay twink stage and wouldn't have been a significant improvement from dehann

No one remembers the three Jew aliens that traded information for money?

Im still mad about this.

>>212033395
I have Zendaya fatigue and Goose exhaustion

>>212029548
Left and right look like shit but left does indeed look worse
Let AI replace all the faggot calarts grads and youtube thumbnail artists

>>212035413
ok but left cost you thousands of dollars to commission and weeks-months to get done and up to having an entire staff of slop drawers for tv shows while right took less time than it took to write this post and was free or a few dollars a month

Took a flirtatious redhead and cast her with an angry blonde straight out of the 00's.

Selenia

>>212032220
Sydney Sweeney and the guy from REACHER

>>212029214
>>212029094 (OP)
they really do come off more like siblings in the movie. it feels like they can't even stand each other and not in a tsundere hate-love way but in a "my sibling is annoying the shit out of me" way

The male lead looks 14 and sounds like Keanu.

>>212029094 (OP)
the whole cast in general was ass and the plot was forgettable despite being a very influential sci fi comic

I didn't even know what the story was. Felt like serials smashed together.

>>212032069
honestly, she did a good job in carnival row.

>>212029094 (OP)
Insufficiently Chad (or ottermode) male lead. 5th Element rehash in many places. But otherwise it was fun with great effects.

>>212029094 (OP)
I know I watched it, but I didn't remember a single fucking thing about it. Not one. Zero.
Same with that other sci-fi franchise that was meant to be huge, about some dude with a name. John something maybe. Not Wick. Or some other common name.

bro/sis incest kino

>>212030981
Yeah, how come this was so much more kino than the rest?
Also, there was still some cool shit and Cara was pretty hot in a lot of scenes.

>>212029094 (OP)
Dude looks like a limp-wristed pussy, and the chick is a charisma vacuum.

>>212029094 (OP)
I basically liked the movie. If there is a problem, it might be that the various filler aliens can feel generic, and the useful aliens might be a bit convenient.

>>212042607
John Carter?

>>212032280
Manlet

>>212029094 (OP)
They had 0 chemistry and the main actor has 0 charisma, not enough to hold a production this size in his back

theres a ton of 'lead actors were bad' copypaste opinions. they were actually fantastic in their roles. the only thing bad about the movie was how the main plot was super bland and lacked any kind of originality. which was a damn shame because they built such an amazing world of potential

wtf these two were tow different films?

>>212029094 (OP)
>we have SW at home
>ugly man-looking female protag
>beta faggot male protag

>>212045838
Yeah, this one. 100% forgettable and forgotten.

>>212029544

>>212048070
Now this is a movie that ONLY has special effrcts going for it. Although i guess tatum did an ok job with what he had to work with, but mila kunis was insufferable.

>>212029094 (OP)
Two of the biggest charisma vacuums ever seen on the big screen were meant to be the leads.

People talk about the visuals being good, but it just looks like an animated movie.

>>212029094 (OP)
At least the intro was good.

>>212052335
Dane dehan was charismatic enough in chronicle, as the mentally disturbed villain, but I can't see him as a daring adventurer that regularly gets in more trouble that he can handle.

>>212029094 (OP)
What went wrong? Literally nothing, I actually enjoyed this slop. They didn't promote it as some blockbuster marvelfag movie, it just is what it is.

>>212053587
it's perfect as my siblingcest kino. not all art needs to be profitable. If we don't let studios burn their money, we would've never gotten an incel blade runner

>>212029094 (OP)
Both characters look like siblings

>>212029094 (OP)
>Valerian and a thousand empty-seats

Either way, instead sci-fi slop, what if you made movie about Valerian the Great
>In a crumbling Roman Empire threatened by invasion and plague, Emperor Valerian the Great rises to power with ruthless ambition and visionary resolve. But when he becomes the first Roman emperor ever captured in battle, his fate in Persian captivity sparks a brutal clash of empires and legacy. Valerian the Great is an epic tale of glory, downfall, and the price of eternal power.

Wasn't anything like the comics.

Too much like the comics

>>212029094 (OP)
too much sovl

>>212029094 (OP)
Casted two uggos.

>>212054787
both these niggas are pretty

>>212054899
>t. down syndrome anon that thinks he looks good in the mirror rather than retarded

I like Cara.

>>212055010
cara delevingne's retarded goonette faces are sexy af nigga

>>212029199
I was thinking the same thing.
It's like the Fifth Element but without any bankable leads.
I liked it well enough when I watched it but I wouldn't be in any rush to watch it again and I wouldn't have paid to go see it.

>>212055411
Then you're in love with Dane DeHaan since he's the male version. Very gay, anon.

>>212055525
that's a man

>>212056016
A handsome lad

>>212056016
Cara have big PP

>>212029548
>corporate slop is bad so AI slop is good