Why have there been no filmmaking geniuses on the level of Shakespeare, Dante or Wagner?

>>212051096 (OP)
Did you know that female roles in Shakespeare's plays were played by cute twinks? I just thought that's very interesting

>>212051096 (OP)
nigga tried to sneak wagner in there

>>212051096 (OP)
Film is the lowest art form of all. It requires no real technical skills unlike painting and music for example.
That's why films cannot be reinvented and pushed forward, it is doomed to be the same juvenile "art" forever

>>212051096 (OP)
film cant be high art

>>212051213
It definitely requires technical skills but it requires such a wide range of technical skills that nobody ever bothers to master them. Chaplin is the only major filmmaker I can think of who tried his hand at everything and even then he was a pleb when it came to cinematography

>>212051188
The elite individual knows Wagner is just as important as Dante and Shakespeare to his respective medium.

>>212051122

hot, but in that case what's the deal with the crossdressing trilogy (twelfth night, as you like it, midsummer) being so uproariously funny for audiences of the time?

>>212051188
>>212051425

Wagner's opera's were essentially the first MCU/DCU and his music was the root of all modern cinematic scores (inb4 some dumbass comes in and says "N-NO HOLST MADE STARWARS MUZAK").

>>212051213
>>212051242
Kino sisters... I don't feel so good

>>212051518
Midsummer Night's Dream doesn't contain crossdressing iirc. But presumably some of the humour comes from a man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man. Although it's weird of you to sexualise this performance practice, because if you've ever seen a talented male actor play a female role convincingly, there's really nothing sexual about it, you're just impressed by the theatrical illusion.

>>212051096 (OP)
Because film is a much lower art form. With Shakespeare's sonnets, poems, and soliloquies, it takes an incredible amount of level-headedness to write something with the same quality as Shakespeare. Unfortunately, most authors lack not only the intuition required to write something coherent and consistent, but are also drowning in the post modern shithole world that blurs their concept of reality. They'll struggle to write about stuff that actually matters, write it in a measured and thoughtful way, and not try to dilute their works by mindlessly including elements from another story just because they liked it. The next Shakespeare would:
>break from the matrix (a gay but apt analogy)
>write about something real with complete disregard of contemporary sensibilities
>do it in a way that's unique to him and not derivative
>use literary devices and tropes in a calculated and intelligent way
Film will never reach that level. It's honestly too "connected" to society to be able to do that.

Keep in mind, out of like 38 plays that Shakespeare wrote, 24 of them are genuine masterpieces. Even if a filmbro could make 1 or 2 masterpieces in their medium, that's all they could make, with the rest being mediocre in comparison.

>>212051096 (OP)
/thread

>>212051407
i really need to watch chaplin, i haven't seen enough b&w films

>>212051539
>Wagner's opera's were essentially the first MCU/DCU
Lmao shut up retard

>>212051775
some might call it the WOU (wagner operatic universe)

>>212051096 (OP)
Swap Wagner for Cervantes. Wagner would agree with me.

>>212051928
I think the pic is about prose, poetry and music.

>>212051981
Shakespeare for prose?

>>212051539
stfu mutt

>>212051096 (OP)
There are a lot more journalist who can get massive paydays with exposes, so you can't just attribute everything to one popular guy to draw crowds of tards, same reason everyone, even tards, know prowrestling is staged.

Because the history is so recent that their bad ones are not forgotten, they are meticulously archived and redistributed over and over. No one remembers the dogshit student films and boxoffice flops that Shakespeare, Dante or Wagner made. Kurosawa, Scorsese, Tarkovsky or any of the other "greats" have all their crappy ones out there and as easily accessible as their good shit.

>>212052122
Literally everything Shakespeare, Dante and Wagner made are praised and studied.

>>212051213
If that's the case why do you make a really good film?

>>212052175
because im sexy like that

>>212052122
>No one remembers the dogshit [Shakespeare] made
He had no slump because it was a royal penname psyop that wasn't allowed to fail.

It really speaks to the shallowness of cinema when Hitchcock is viewed as a major artist.

>>212051539
>the first MCU/DCU
But anon that's not cinema

>>212052345
ask me how i know youre american

>>212051644
Plenty of filmmakers have more than 2 masterpieces though: Ford, Kubrick, Wilder, Kurosawa, Tarkovsky, Scorsese, Spielberg, De Palma, Tarantino, Carpenter.

It's Kubrick

>>212051096 (OP)
Young medium.

>>212052431
>Scorsese, Spielberg, De Palma, Tarantino, Carpenter

>>212051539
>Stan Lee was influenced by Wagner for his branding ability
absolutely true... MCU is still very far from opera of course, but they'll eventually try and stage that stuff.

>>212052122
None of this changes the fact that none of this directors have works as good as the worst creations of Dante, Shakespeare or Wagner.

>>212052431
All hacks

>>212051096 (OP)
It's a new form. It takes a while for a culture to learn a new form.

Lynch

>>212051096 (OP)
Tomino mastered film and television