Having now watched every cut of Blade Runner, I've come to the conclusion the original theatrical cut is the best. As usual, Ridley Scott is incapable of any meaningful creative input and the tighter his grip gets on anything the worse it becomes. Deckard's narration does add to the movie's humanity theme.

>>212058656 (OP)
Yes.
Also "ackchyually Deckard is a replicant" was beyond retarded.

>>212058691
It's impossible to miss a story's themes harder than to assert Deckard is a replicant.

workprint is blatantly the best combination of elements

>>212058779
workprint is blatantly unfinished

>>212058656 (OP)
>still spamming about this garbage
It is just a trash movie. There is nothing good about it. It is ugly, boring, lacking characters theme and plot. It is just bad and cannot understand how anyone is convinced it is any good

>>212058799
because of the music? kill yourself.

People who think Deckard is human are fucking stupid. Ridley says he is a replicant, the red eyes, Gaff saying "You've done a mans job, sir", etc.

>>212058731
>>212058691
Retarded coming from the book? Yes, but Scott the hack managed to progressively remove more of the substance from the book with each new edition so Deckard being or not a replicant is more or less irrelevant by the final cut.

>>212058656 (OP)
I don't understand cinema, I never get the secret meaning or metaphors directors are trying to convey. I hate this.

>>212058830
Kneel before Vangelis
>>212058881
>Ridley says
Nothing he says matters, he didn't write the book, he didn't write the movie, and he didn't have the idea until late in the film's production.
>Gaff saying "You've done a mans job, sir"
If you take that to mean Deckard is a replicant then you're too stupid for scifi, go watch capeshit.
>>212058904
>book
Irrelevant.

>>212058656 (OP)
Harrison Ford wasn't so bad when he gave half a shit. Sad to see what he became.

>>212058947
The people who made and watched this trash movie are too stupid for scifi

>>212058656 (OP)
>Deckard's narration does add to the movie's humanity theme.
It's admittedly flawed but the movie becomes too quiet without it. I dont have an issue with almost silent movies but this wasn't fit for blade runner.

>>212058656 (OP)
Hating the voiceover is the hallmark of the cowardly reviewer who lives in fear of being called out.

>>212058881
The writer of the movie says he is a human.

>>212058656 (OP)
Regardless of cut it's really a mediocre flick that's saved by great visuals. It caught on with zoomers who were into the 80's neon and synth nostalgia fad and now they treat it like it's a masterpiece which is insane to me.

>>212059226
Cope

>>212058656 (OP)
Based Ridley filters another pleb.

>>212059380
>an audiovisual medium is "saved" by its visuals and its audio
Nigga, this is the core of movies, the rest is fluff to coalesce the audiovisual data.

>>212058827
> how anyone is convinced it is any good
Nostalgia and aesthetics. Which is fine, but don’t complain if other consoomers also use aesthetics as a reason to hype up capeshit.

>>212059419
Damn, I guess this dog must be a replicant

>>212059419
>voigt-kampf, important plot point, out the window because of this stupid visual gimmick

This movie oozes aura. Makes sense the boomers/gen x/millenials don't get it.

>>212059773
>>212059631
>uhhh actually that evidence doesn't count because it contradicts me, they just included it on accident or something
right

>>212059835
when the argument is that ridley is basically a hack, yeah

>>212059631
>he doesn't know

>>212059854
yeah the guy responsible for the best parts of the movie is a hack and the real heroes are the writers of the dogshit non-existent plot where the best dialogue in the movie was improvised by the actor. lol.

>>212059969
>the guy responsible for the best parts of the movie
Certainly not Ridley, you even admit it.

slop

>>212060098
see
>>212059819

>You've done a man's job, sir
A person of average or higher intelligence realizes that Gaff's line is ironic. Deckard's job is dehumanizing and has left him traumatized and emotionally void. It's the least subtle cherry top on top of the movie's themes, that Deckard has made himself inhuman and now learned humanity again from the Replicants' struggle to live.

A retarded person hears that line and thinks "OH SHOOT what if this means DECKARD is a replicant too???" Ridley Scot is a retarded person.

>>212060249
Was this guy the best character in the movie?

>>212060335
>was (not Roy Batty) the best character in the movie
No.

Oh look, another thread where redditors cope about Ridley Scott directing a great movie. The last time it was Alien, now it's Blade Runner.

>>212060347
You confuse the best actor for the best character.

>>212060249
It's intentionally ambiguous. People that get outraged over the notion of Deckard being a replicant are ~100 IQ types that can't understand art.

>>212060436
Yeah, Scott directed a great movie. Then he tried wiping his ass with it via edits and cuts.
>>212060469
No, it's not ambiguous. It was never intended by any creative besides Scott when he got the idea very late in the film's production. Scott can't understand art, and neither can anyone who doesn't see how Deckard being a replicant shits all over the movie's themes and story.

>>212060517
>Then he tried wiping his ass with it via edits and cuts.
It's like A New Hope. Thank God for the editions without the added nonsense.

>>212060517
>I understand director's vision better than the director
pseud moment

>>212060517
>It was never intended by any creative besides Scott when he got the idea very late in the film's production.
Why do you keep saying this as if it changes what the final product is?

>>212060669
Scott's vision doesn't matter, any time he gets creative control of anything he destroys it.
>>212060719
The theatrical cut is the final product. Anything Scott has put out later is worthless.

>>212060517
>Deckard being a replicant shits all over the movie's themes and story.
I can understand why you'd think this if you had only a surface level grasp of the film's themes, but no, the possibility of Deckard being a replicant only serves to make them more compelling.

>>212060903
Elaborate or be exposed.

>>212058656 (OP)
>is incapable of any meaningful creative input
Who do you think directed the movie?

>>212060903
Anon, you’re not wrong, but I think if Deckard’s a replicant, it really kicks the whole “what is human?” theme into overdrive. Like, if he’s just as artificial as the others, then the movie’s asking us if being human is about memories, emotions, or something else entirely. It’s a mindfuck, and makes the moral ambiguity even darker—are the replicants really the villains, or just victims of a shitty system? Adds a whole new layer of existential dread, you know?

nta you were talking to I used ai to repond to you out of curiousity I didn't even read what it responded with but I will after I hit enter.

>>212058656 (OP)
>generates a dove from sheer force of kino

>>212060335
Not at all. He's a loser that's seething at Deckard getting the job he wanted. He's butthurt the entire time that he didn't get a promotion and Bryant instead chose to make him go find a retired detective and drive him around. So he makes retarded pointless origami instead of actually fucking helping out. Maybe if he'd actually done his job, Deckard wouldn't have almost died in every replicant encounter

>>212058656 (OP)
Deckard is a replicant is the only conclusion that makes any sense. How else can he go toe-to-toe with not just one, but two, three, four other replicants? Roy Batty was a biological machine specifically created for war and combat.

I want a proper sequel to blade runner with a de-aged Natty Portman and Miley Cyrus.

>>212062544

>>212058731
Real niggas realise that Deckard maybe being a replicant doesn't contradict the themes at all, it actually only strengthens them. The replicants are an analogy for humanity's struggle with meaning and mortality, the whole point is that they are the same as the human characters, so blurring that line with Deckard only strengthens that

>>212062544
>>212062574

>>212062472
>How else can he go toe-to-toe with not just one, but two, three, four other replicants
He doesn't, every single one of them beat the shit out of him, even the sexbot.

>>212062606
>>212062634
God won't give me this but Shodan will
Tech is my new religion

>>212058656 (OP)
>Ridley Scott is incapable of any meaningful creative input and the tighter his grip gets on anything the worse it becomes
he directed like 2-3 commercials and/or music videos PER WEEK throughout his entire career, even while shooting movies
he is the definition of autist
>>212058691
agreed

>>212062632
That's because Deckard believes he is a man, not because he is one. Gaff follows him around because Gaff is his handler.

>>212062931
>you ain't a billionaire because you don't believe you are one bro
what is this tranny tier faggotry

>>212062931
>Deckard believes he is a man, not because he is one
YWNBAW

Sean Connery as Marshall O'Neil from Outland reprises his role in Blade Runner 2 - Edge of Midnight. Portman and Cyrus pick him as he running away from assassins from the Tyrell and Con/Am Amalgam corporations that want him dead.

>>212062987
>>212063007
Wow. Not even /tv is free from this faggotry. Go touch grass, both of you.

>>212058656 (OP)
Cinema is not your medium if you fail to understand why the appreciation is so high

Based (A)Indian shitting up a shit thread.

>>212059134
>the movie becomes too quiet

vangelis never shuts his pipe, wdym anon

Natty: "Hi Anon. I's been some time. Want to get some Tsingtao and go back to my place. Its dry, warm, and full of magic."

>>212063203
Not Indian, Proud WHITE man. I want proper film sequels. One thing for sure none in this thread have the chops to do it.

>>212063338
>>212063277
only a poojeet from the uk would write shit like this

>>212062632
It's hilarious that everything after has gone with the idea they're all called Blade Runners and that they're special forces ninja assasin terminators. Deckard was the only one with a nickname Blade Runner because of previous stuff he did, and he couldn't fight for shit. He should have died to every replicant but was miraculously saved. Yet he was considered the "best" because his job isn't about fighting, it's being a detective. That's not interesting enough for blockbuster movies though

>>212064294
>Special police squads - BLADE RUNNER UNITS - had orders to shoot to kill, upon detection, any trespassing Replicant.
The opening says they're all called Blade Runners.

>>212064443
That was debunked. It was added later.

>>212064899
That's from the theatrical release.

>>212058656 (OP)
Soldier and Outland were the best tie-in movies to this

>>212058881
>lets make the replicant that hunts other replicants much weaker than them
BRAVO TYRELL

>>212059969
People often fail to think of a movie director as an architect. He has a vision, secures funding for it, but he’s not the one who’s going to live in it—so compromises happen along the way. You need to have your admin staff, someone to hire the crew, and a whole structure in place. Think of David Chase at the end of The Sopranos—dealing with all the mess while leaving Terry to sharpen his still-fresh tools.

>>212058967
He does well in Witness, he has well founded contempt for slop is all

>>212059819
Gen X made its reputation, zoomie

>>212066086
it worked tho

>>212060335
Best dressed man of 2019 award

>>212062602
I'm not sure why this is so hard for people to understand.

>>212066204
It didn't though. Deckard should have been killed by all of them. Only miracle plot armor saved him.

>>212062931
If they can give him memory implants of an ex-wife and whatnot they can give him spme nonsense about why he can go toe to toe with a combat reppy - "I had my muscles genetically upgraded, I remember it clearly"

>>212066401
Of course you're not sure because you're such a retard you believe the replicant theory which literally destroys all themes of the original movie for an idiotic and pointless twist.

>>212060249
it is meant to make you think about your own humanity. what makes you human?

he just saw what appeared to be a self centered human being turn into no more than a pocket calculator demanding to be used for its designed purpose then run against its own designers, at that point, how can he know what he is, how can one know ?

>>212064294
> That's not interesting enough for blockbuster movies though
>half of the movie is about a guy working a scanner

why thou

>>212066086
They were never meant to be hunted. Tyrell was oblivious to the scope of his creation—typical god.

>>212058881
the eye glint was not in the theatrical version
>Gaff saying "You've done a mans job, sir"
how autistic can you be? are you female? are all replicants female? you think deckard was a tranny?

>>212067311
Tyrell would make replicants for Blade Runner units if asked. He doesn't want them returning to Earth and running amok, its bad pr.

>no locator/termination gizmo in our very dangerous replicants
BRAVO TYRELL

>>212059631
He is.

>>212068047
that could be exploited by others. best to not have it

>>212068047
>termination gizmo
would make them susceptible to sabotage
>locator gizmo
would make them less dangerous and that would defeat the purpose of them being dangerous lol

>thinking Tyrell Corp. had no competition
...

>>212063801
Your a drug addled moron.

>>212067928
The idea that replicants all needed to be identical to humans was the idiotic part. Leon and Roy didn't need to look like humans. Give them blue skin and no face or something. Pris and Zora could just have some obvious trait to announce them as replicants.

>>212068180
i wish

>>212066934
Play the game and you'll see. Being a detective is solving a mystery. Looking for clues, talking to people that could be innocent/guilty/or mixed, piecing together threads to weave a tapestry and eventually solve the case. It takes time, dedication, and careful consideration. It's not some action packed rambo movie where you just run around yelling then shoot the problem to make it go away. It doesn't make a good popcorn movie, but it's great for stories and atmosphere. Looking into the scanner is not some epic insult like you pretend it is. It's interesting detective work and he finds the big case changing clue through it, which other people couldn't do.

>>212068368
They're not robots though but genetic constructs so there might be limits on how you can fuck around with the design

>>212059419
What if the glint is actually to emphasize Rachael? It's so close to human that you can't even tell anymore, hammer it home etc.

>>212068723
They are literally pieced together from individual parts created by various designers. You can 100% design and tweak them any way to want. They even make replicant animals. It wouldn't be difficult at all for the persob making the skin to make it come out blue instead of white. Or tweak the facial features to be smooth instead of realistic.

>>212058827
It has the best use of lighting and set design i've ever seen

>>212069502
That was exactly what it was. In the original cut, Deckard goes to visit his friend Holden in the hospital. They talk about the new replicants and how scary good they are now. They are used to the shitty models of replicants that are easy to spot and basically retarded. They're obviously not humans, barely above animals, and most would not have much empathy for them. It's only the Nexus 6 and Rachel that have improved so far they are almost passing the VK machine. That's what finally breaks Deckard that he empathizes with their plight, stops viewing them as "IT"s and as human instead, and becomes determined to enjoy his own life again after seeing how much they had a true desire to live.

>>212060335
Based Castillo death stare provider

>>212058691
>>212062602

Doesn't 2049 canonize Deckard as a human though? I don't know if that's true but I at least remember Villeneuve saying something along those lines.

>>212069616
Yeah, you're right. I guess Tyrells le more human than human autism couldn't bend even a little bit