You need to be in the IQ percentile of 135 to understand this movie.

>>212096697 (OP)
agreed, midwit film

>percentile of 135

So what you're saying is that nobody understands it - clever..

>>212096697 (OP)
GO GO POWER RANGERS

>>212096697 (OP)
It’s shit.
T. IQ of 135, it’s been teshted

>>212096697 (OP)
>135 IQ
Yes
>understand it
Yes. It's a big pile of

>>212096697 (OP)
We moved on
It's F1 The Movie time

>>212096993
It's actually M3GAN weekend

>>212097011
we can watch both

>>212097011
M3GAN is not getting positive reviews
HOWEVER F1

>>212096948
>severence fag gets filtered
No surprise here

Meh I just like the cool camera shots when they killed the first few zombies at the beginning, had good pacing and characters to be invested in. Nothing you need to be smart for it, it was cool for what it was.

>>212097423
I know Boyle likes experimenting with camera movements and different rigs, but imo he abused the kill cam thing.

>>212097483
They stopped doing it in the first 15 minutes or so(after the kid goes home with his dad). I kinda missed it honestly as the movie went on. It was like a video game type of thing. Like in GTA 5 when someone dies the camera flashes white to add weight to it. I probably sound like a retard but I liked it.

>>212096697 (OP)
>IQ percentile of 135
the ironing

>>212097586
>They stopped doing it in the first 15 minutes or so
>after the kid goes home with his dad)
That was at least 40 minutes into the movie

>>212097586
It honestly reminded me of the Fallout killcams.

>>212097819
I don't know dude I just saw in theaters back on Wednesday. I wasn't sitting there with a fucking stop watch. I wouldn't have minded if they did it the whole movie for real. But I understand why/if other people would not have liked that. It is just a gimmick at the end of day.
>>212098034
That's another good example, those V.A.T.S zoom ins

The shills for this film are insufferable
It flopped btw

Too much dong.

>>212097011
Garbage teannyslop

To understand that its more clumsy liberal elite lecturing?

>>212096993
We will post 28 years later every single day until part 2 comes out.

>>212099514
>we
Garland, the voices in your head and you are the same person.
>every single day until part 2 comes out.
you won't
>>212097819
i mean, actors said director had no idea how he was going to use camera shots but they were amazed how much hard work and creativity those cameras meant

>>212097159
marry me melissa

>>212097586
Should've done it with the infected Spike kills at the end, have it transition into the credits

>>212096697 (OP)
For anyone who doesn't get it, it's very reactionary. A true >come home, white man kino. The father figures from the abrahamic god down to the 'strong' father who manages well in the apocalypse all fail, and the son, rather than going along, goes his own way, does what he knows is right, and becomes a strong man.
He doesn't fear the inherent danger of leaving the island and Fiennes plays a decent shaman role that I'm sure most either find cringe or underwhelming. Shelter in the forests, nature running its course as time moves on.

Small scenes capture the frigid Bri'ish mindset of the village > the individual, contrasted with the warmth and goofiness often reserved for family.

The Jimmies honestly made me laugh but I'm sure they'll be annoying if they're the focal point of the next movie. The cliffhanger wasn't irritating either and they could easily leave off with just the one movie. The Jimmy thing is a reference to Jimmy Savile, a pop culture icon that was highly renowned; the commentary is that Jimmy picked him as a new father figure and still thinks he's someone to idolize becuase in his world, Savile being a serial pedo rapist is never brought to light.

The kid does a great job acting too, especially for his age. No one is excessively campy, which I appreciate.

The humor is more up front than in the previous installments, and I expect the next movie to feel more like something written by Wright & Pegg just based on what we've seen, even with sobering moments.

Have I covered enough for people who aren't familiar with the British?

I wish I had people to discuss or enjoy this movie with irl

>>212096697 (OP)

The moral of the story was you need to be crazy to survive the apocalypse

The jimmy at the end was pretty much the kid at the start of the movie grown up or replaced with stolen gear?

Euthanasia propaganda because the circumstances in the film are far less dire than modern day UK, so everyone will be lining up for a kill pod after seeing the movie

Big Paki dick. Yes i know british people love those

So how much of it is just "small villages scary!"?

>>212096697 (OP)
135 isn't a percentile you fucking chud

Just saw this. It was okay, pretty meta, a bit goofy especially towards the end. It's a shame it didn't explore the island more but I guess that wasn't the emphasis. A Hamlet reference which seems important to the theme of fathers, alpha males and masculinity. A lot of reference to English history, e.g., defending the island from invaders, vikings, religion.

Can't help but think that the father's role is pretty important. His actions and the camera work compares him I think to the alpha of the infected (it's a shame I think that the infected aren't given a more colloquial name, especially after 30 years of them being around - I think the survivors would call them something different by that point).

The mother interestingly protects her son at one point, but she is dying and the community's isolation doesn't help, seemed like a meta reference to Britain's isolationism. The doctor character reminds me of Kurtz as many others have referenced, but it seems more importantly to be reference to the original Conrad novel and its imperial theme, rather than the movie.

Hmm, will have to think a bit more.

>>212103285
>The doctor character reminds me of Kurtz as many others have referenced, but it seems more importantly to be reference to the original Conrad novel and its imperial theme, rather than the movie

what book/movie is this?

>>212103050
Maybe like 2 minutes total where (You) feel suspense, but no, the movie doesn't imply it beyond your own assumption shit will be jumping at them. It does the opposite, the main characters take shelter in buildings repeatedly and refreshingly don't run into evil rapist white men like the first movie. The people they meet are friendly and work together even when not from the same community.

>>212103354
Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now

Rage virus is now a steroid to make you into a huge Alpha

Doesn't shrink your dick and balls. Makes them bigger.

I fully understand it.

>>212103417
Interesting the infected are reproducing now, the alpha was obviously the father of that kid.

>>212102852
>the guy studying how to handle the new normal and finding a way to cope with all that was lost was crazy
ngmi when shtf, buddy

I'm almost tempted to think the movie is in part an exploration of the self and other in terms of nationalism. The isolated island nation is at war with the infected other, who the doctor interestingly points out share similarities. The baby too is brought into the island and raised, despite being an outsider and the spawn of the infected. The islanders will no doubt raise it as one of their own and treat them as such, so the hostility they hold towards the outsiders is rather superficial or vulnerable to nuance in that respect.

The outsiders/infected are now depicted not as a mob of zombies but as tribal groups led by alpha males, and this structure is reflected not so much in the society of the island at large but definitely in Spike's family. The father, the more I reflect on it, can be compared to the alphas of the infected. Both are large burly men, the leader of their small group, show intense anger (the father punching the wall, hitting his son), and interestingly the father gives Spike some bacon (which he doesn't eat, and which is later shown as a bloody mess on the bedside table) just like the alpha male kills deer which his underlings feast on.

The Swedish character is interesting to some extent: unlike his viking ancestors (he describes himself as such) who came to the island to conquer and settle, he is simply looking for a way out of here; a reversal of British history. It is almost suggesting that without these migratory contributions we have to wonder who exactly is left as one of the "natives", and how these natives are different from the barbarian infected.

The appearance of the Saville cult at the end was quite cringe and Tarantino-esque, and I imagine it's setting us up for an even more meta movie albeit focused on 20th century culture rather than English history.

>>212096697 (OP)
God here
I hate it

>>212103417
He just happened to be a big nigger, the virus didn't do anything else. This was the only woke part of the movie besides le artsy euthanasia effects, and I can't complain because the only nonwhites in the film were all infected.

I don't think the movie tries to show them sympathetically at all despite the memes. It just gives snippets of the zombies doing things above the level of mindless eating, essentially evolving to have recognizably "civil" traits (killing for food and protection rather than rage, communal eating, marking the tree with his kill, hunting intelligently instead of forgetting, the peaceful one deciding to walk away etc the same way nonwhites will eventually filter out to death or back to whiteness

>>212100796
Spike is not MGTOW, he's just a boy given the opportunities to genuinely become a man now that his world has been levelled down to nature and more organic and stable forms of human culture.

This movie is above all else a spiritual successor to The Wicker Man. The Christian vicar is relieved to believe the world is ending and is carried away in blood, but instead of ending his world is turned upside down. And what was buried is alive and flourishing.

Spike isn't *failed*, he's just becoming worldly. If you believe learning adults can lie is being *failed* you are the one who has to grow up. Garland and Boyle in the first film's commentary talk about father figures and moving on, Jim as a figurative newborn who has to find himself in the new world. Spike's story is a natural successor to that.

The opportunity to meet, learn from, be tested by, and move beyond different mature and complete men in different places in life is what is developing Spike over the course of the film, and the ending tells us this process isn't finished.

His father is just a father. A big man of a small place. Appreciating that is maturing. And yes, Fiennes is a sham, or a druid. I'm glad I'm not the only man on Earth who understood that the painted man with blowdarts and medicines who lives to teach man's place in the natural order is meant to be a kind of universal traditional holy man.

And the point of Erik is to really hammer home that Spike is uniquely privileged in many ways. He has an opportunity to become a real man, not just a kind of uprooted and deracinated boy-subject of a nonsensical, inorganic, and anti-human world.

And super-Jimmy is awesome. Wearing an inverted cross and superhumanly virile and capable, leading a joyous existence. It's so on the nose that it's beautiful.

>>212103832
>memento mori is woke
Awesome. You should check out this cool guy on youtube called Wyatt Stagg. He's a genius like you.

>>212103737
>muttification of bonglands
Yeah, this is a topic I've always appreciated since discussing on /pol/, since there are obvious parallels between invasion 1 and invasion 2 and invasion current year etc.... That's why the kid going his own way matters. He chooses to be a survivor at all costs, as his people always have, and to go out and conquor rather than live a sheltered life of captivity. He's going back to his true roots and the strongest part of his lineage, inherited from every settler and native. Also while neither "father" could protect his woman, the kid at least accepts that there's nothing he can do for his mom but give her peace, and he can protect the baby by offering it a chance at normal life.

I lol'd @ the father being all like
>the doctor was INSANE.
>'well what'd he do?'
>he... took care of the dead bodies. And WAVED at us with his open hand of peace!

>>212104257
>>memento mori is woke
I didn't say that, I just don't like how they portrayed it while he killed her. Someone else said the effects were like those used in drug advertisements and they're not wrong, especially dropping the movie the same day the euthanasia bill was voted for. I honestly support euthanasia but it does need rigorous regulations and checks and balances to prevent accidents and murder.

>>212104347
Do you believe that it was a "woke" presentation of the issue? Because that's what you said.

>>212104258
Woke father couldn't cure brain cancer. Retvrn. I love 4chan. I love being surrounded by illiterate spic goblins.

>>212096697 (OP)
>midwit can't even use percentile correctly as a term
I'm tired of normal people

>>212104258
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I see the movie as an exploration of national identity and what exactly makes one group "clean" (his father describes them as such when banging on the gate) and another "infected".

The doctor exists in an in-between territory much like Kurtz from AN who forces the viewer to wonder what makes the American soldiers the good guys and the natives savages.

The reference to old movies on English medieval battles and WW2 places the movie in the context of being a nationalist movie of one nation at war with another.

The doctor is "mad" despite being, like you said, peaceful, calm but detached from either culture.

There is a clear challenge to the viewer to distinguish one alpha (the "infected" tribal leader, who provides food - deer - to his people, reproduces with his female partner, doesn't seem to care about eating the natives) and Spike's father who is also a large burly man who says he enjoys killing the infected, who is seen eating out a woman due to uncontrolled impulses (lust rather than rage), who provides meat to his followers (bacon to his son, which is interestingly seen later on as a bloody mass on the bedside table), shows immense anger (hitting his son, punching the wall) etc. His father's lies about he and his son's history (telling everyone his son killed a load of infected, like some kind of nationalistic story about heroes) also forces Spike to examine what is true and false about the narrative he has been sold by his father and the wider group of islanders; namely that they are the virtuous, civilized group at war with vile, alien, infected others.

The reference to Hamlet (the doctor lifting the skull and saying "Alas, poor Erik" as in the Shakespeare play) is interesting because in Hamlet one of the focal questions is whether the father is alive or dead, and what is true and false about the political stories being told about his demise.

>>212096697 (OP)
>if you're diagnosed with cancer, you have to die IMMEDIATELY

>>212104608
No, you stupid spic goblin. Bad. Shut the fuck up. You fail. F-.

In-groups and out-groups? No. Obviously fucking not. The infected will gauge your fucking eyes out and rip your head off if they get the chance. They are the ones drawing lines. The speed, ferocity, pack instincts and hierarchy, night hunting of deer. They're a force of nature now. They're *wolves* you stupid fuck. That's where we got "alpha" from. Believe it or not andrewtate did not invent that for tiktok.

We *know* they are practical and clearsighted on this issue because they learn the child at the end was born of an infected mother and keep her. What makes you "infected" is if you bear the clear biological symptoms of infection with this very real virus which also happens to fill you with an out of control homicidal rage towards all non-infected humans.

The doctor doesn't exist in between any factions or sides aside from civilisation and nature. He is an archetypal wise man of the woods. A druid, a healer, a witch. He doesn't treat the infected like misunderstood humanity. He isn't afraid of them BECAUSE HE TREATS THEM LIKE ***ANIMALS***. He treats "Samson" like he would a ferocious bear or wolf. He can be safe around it because he respects its destructive potential and works around that. He does not recognise humanity in them.

The movie references are not about war, they are about living historically. Continuity of culture. The end of deracination and standard-issue globalised culture. Their existence is now once-again 'English' and in line with the history of England for the long run up until the relatively modern period of aberration.

For Christ's sake his father and Samson are not the fucking same. You obviously just have a bag of THEMES you learned from school and youtube you try to pin onto whatever you've recently watched. Jesus just fucking shut up.

>>212105032
People like you are why Boyle and Garland obviously believe the Rage virus would be good for the world.

>>212105214
>The infected will gauge your fucking eyes out and rip your head off if they get the chance

Spike's father says he enjoys killing infected, what makes him different?

>>212105214
>pack instincts and hierarchy

Every group has a hierarchy, most relevantly Spike's family of which his father is the angry, brutal head. As for pack instincts, we learn in the movie that the infected are now territorial, and they are even seen bathing (or so it seems) at one point.

>end of deracination

The adoption of the infected-born baby conflicts with that idea imo.

Umm you sound kinda angry, r u infected or something oWo :(

>>212105214
Also, as for the doctor and animals: why isn't the doctor horror-stricken at the idea of a pregnant infected giving birth to a human child? An animal wouldn't do that.

And why would he create a shrine which mixes the bones of infected with those of humans (Erik and Spike's mother) if the two groups are somehow incomparable?

>>212104475
>>>212104347
I told you I support euthanasia with the right conditions but don't like the way it was presented, yes. It was presented in a sugar coated way, extra sugar coated because of the stereotypical drug ad special effects, which the average normie is completely at ease with instead of wondering why the ads are dancing/singing/soothing them into taking drugs with wild side effects. If it had been less stylized or even just cut to black from Spike passing out or something, it would have been more tasteful.

>>212096697 (OP)
>Contrarians are claiming this fever dream pro euthanasia propaganda piece is good
No surprise. But Danny Boyle fucking lost his touch. This movie was garbage. The editing and sound were pathetic. The movie felt ashamed of itself and wanted to be over so quick scenes were literally starting before the last one ended like some weird pulp fiction on crack. One scene it's all tension they have a literal zombie on their ass about to die quick cut to a pub full of drunk fucks oh nope quick cut back to the violence okay it's over back to the pub oh yeah they were celebrating the last scene lol wtf was that shit? And then because Boyle has to appear Jews in Hollywood had to cut scenes of goose-stepping Nazis into the movie and at a dumb point when the two main characters are leaving to go on a journey. The best scene is when all the edgy fire starter tier editing stopped and the main characters were just stuck in an attic waiting til the sun came out. That was the best scene. And don't even get me started on the fucking soundtrack and mixing. There's a scene where what's supposed to be music comes in but it's just Lazer pew pew sounds for a good thirty seconds before weird club bass tries to remind you what music is. I genuinely think Danny Boyle lost it worst than Ridley Scott with Prometheus and covenant.

>>212105346
Spike's father kills them for his own self-preservation and that of his people. Their instincts have grown more animalistic with time, but they are still psychotic even by the standards of animals rather than people. And that's the thing, even if we suggest they might have a place in the world, they cannot be judged by the standards we would judge people. Because as Spike's father says, the infection takes away their minds, making them inhuman. Your mind makes you human. You can talk, or potentially talk, to a foreigner you don't share a language with whose people are in a life or death struggle with your own. The infected want to slaughter people trying to help them for no positive benefit to themselves. That is how they are different.

And the infected baby is clearly *ENGLISH*. The infected are not a race, they are English people with a virus. The girl does not have the virus. There is no contrived social division here. Only hard biological factors which are not present in that case. Divisions between actual people still exist, Spike's Father mention that mainlanders tend to be strange. Presumably beyond the doctor he is aware of the existence of groups like Jimmy's gang and highly skeptical of them. We presumably *will* get human conflicts as we go and Spike's ascent to manhood continues. And I imagine the infected will remain effectively wild animals in this story.

>>212105478
He doesn't literally think they are animals you fuckwit. He thinks they do not have any of the essential characteristics of humanity beyond their corrupted biology. The woman's pregnancy acts as a biological filter, which is again, how the human body works. But the pregnant woman herself is not expressing any humanity beyond biological functions. She acts like an animal with human DNA.

>>212105487
It sounds like you have a massive problem with tv ads on euthanasia and should go deal with that somewhere else.

>>212105528
Oh and the fact the weird doctor not the main characters try to kill sedated zombies. The zombies don't even collapse they literally stand there in place drooling after being drugged. And what do the main characters do to the super alpha just standing there with his overly fake large dong hanging out? They just walk off. They leave him to come fuck them up later. Which he does. Then they just tranq him again and pat him on the head and go "I named this one a Jewish name". Wtf was this bullshit?

>>212096697 (OP)
They'll gonna kill Jim off for the sequel aren't they?

>after losing Selena and Hannah
>Jim has nothing to live for
>he'll sacrifice himself to let Spike escape from Jimmy's Cult or the infected

>>212105582
>named this one a jewish name
Because you need to be asking who Goliath is

>>212105657
Nah dude, being a Jim himself he'll obviously join the Jimmies.

>>212105573
>Spike's father kills them for his own self-preservation and that of his people

Wrong! Spike's father explicitly tells his son that he enjoys killing infected, and laughs about it. This is even despite the fact that early on Spike kills a random bloated zombie who it is revealed is the patriarch of some kind of bloated zombie family, the daughter of which runs away and who they decide not to kill for seemingly empathetic reasons.

>Because as Spike's father says, the infection takes away their minds, making them inhuman

Which is exactly why the mother figure is so important! Her memory is shot, she is filled with ungovernable and random rage (a clear comparison again) yet we are expected to empathise with her.

>>212105528
>The movie felt ashamed of itself
Lmao who says shit like this, it's inanimate lmfao

How has no one pointed out the mother's name and her death are symbolic of the British Isles dying and being replaced with the hybrid baby

>>212103485
One of the jimmies (prob the leader) raped a zombie and that was his baby. Not even jocking some people said that saville used to fuck corpses in real life

>>212105726
That kinda defeats the whole purpose of his character.

>>212104257
Mgtow is men purposefully isolating themselves from women, which is nothing like Spike's mindset when he decides to pioneer on the mainland.

And yes the fathers failed repeatedly. God the Father "allows" the virus to destroy their society, Jimmy's dad goes crazy and submits rather than struggle. Jimmy will be a new role model for Spike I suppose and I'll be interested to see how they paint him.
The failure on Spike's dad isn't that he lied, it's that he failed to be the husband and father that Spike thought he was when he saw his father had moved on from his mom and left her to die. This is what actually prompts his coming of age- taking up his father's struggle as his own, not going out and killing some random infected like the island told him. I don't think his father failed him in a literal sense but more of a spiritual one as his role model to look up to (which we'll definitely see paralleled with on the nose Jimmy Savile commentary and Jimmy and his dad in the sequel,) as we watch him impart all the skills Spike needs to survive on the island during his first expedition. He's not a bad father, objectively, but Spike can't see that when all he sees is his dad abandoning his mom without trying, from his perspective.

I've never seen Wicker Man but the idea that 'the old ways' have always remained is definitely a theme of the film, as is the shaman aspect. I always forget the bongs call them druids, to my shame. Shamanism is slowly returning, and while it's more low-key, I worry it will be misconstrued like what most neopagans have done to their religions. Entirely bang on drum and do drugs maaan! like some new yolo hippy nigger movement. I had the honor of briefly knowing a shaman and the things I learned from him were things I was hungry for and have not forgotten as I watch our modern world change. Problem is, it's hard to pass those lessons on to others. It really is more of an experience.

>>212105900
That might be true, but the way the alpha behaves suggests he is the father, e.g., picking up the woman's corpse to tell if she is still alive, his anger specifically after that point, and his seemingly trying to get his child back.

Its funny how desperately you fags want this movie to be considered "good". So many forced discussions. It sucked. Get over it.

Also, has anyone pointed out the fact that Alex Garland's first book and movie was The Island?

Surely something meaningful in that.

>>212105582
>>212105697
A simple google of the biblical figure would tell you that Samson himself had superhuman strength, despite his name mostly being associated with being on the wrong side of a physical outmatch today. The Alpha is called Samson because he is strong, or a champion of his people. And I imagine the doctor mostly did this as a kind of light-hearted zookeeper's joke. A cultured title for a raving animal-man.

>>212105657
Everyone seems very convinced the Jims are evil, I feel like that runs somewhat counter to where the film is going. That the apocalypse is mostly bringing out *the best in people*, and that Jimmy has become an inversion of his father. Full of life and joy. Able to meet adversity head-on rather than embrace long-awaited death. Maybe they'll be Spike's lesson in the dark side of human power and flourishing, but I think it'd be a funny trick Boyle would like to make the Jimmy Saville dressup gang nice with no sinister twist.

>>212105731
Am I taking crazy pills? Did you just cite Spike's father showing mercy as proof of his bloodlust?

And I've never seen an exclamation mark user who was intelligent. Most of you are just 'pretending to be retarded', as the meme goes. If so, good job. I am mad at the computer. Go get a cool nigger to witness how unchill I am.

Spike's mother is not a rage virus parallel. I can tell this wasn't the intention because if I ask you what Boyle and Garland could possibly have meant by that you won't have an answer for me. No "the theme of nationalism" is not an answer. This isn't high school. Give me a human motivation for doing that. Tell me how that makes sense in the mind of a human being.

"What if there was a virus that made you want to kill everyone you meet, and what if you had brain cancer making you moody and forgetful. They're sort of the same right? I thought so. Owned."

>>212105781
I don't think you should ever try to think of symbols again.

The only good thing about this slop was when the kid made fun of the big tiddy swedish bimbo thot because of her lips

>Percentile of 135
Kek when you try to sound smart but are outed by your own lack of knowledge

>>212105945
>Mgtow is men purposefully isolating themselves from women
Maybe for the divorced types but for most mgtow is just plain sour grapes. Incels claiming to eschew women after a lifetime of failing to get their attention and affection is like a black person saying they decided to not have a large pre-frontal cortex. It was never going to happen in the first place.

>>212105032
Dying slowly and painfully of late stage cancer in an apocalypse where she just becomes a liability sure sounds like a great time. They knew there would be no point in making the trip back if she was going to die anyway

>>212105942
Then why name him Jim and have the crazy group be led by also a Jim? It's the Jimnaissance, everybody named Jim or similar gets to join the Jimmys, receives a blonde wig and gets Jimmmy powers and training to help in the cleansing of infected from the country and start an unstoppable Jimmy society.

>>212106120
I found that rude to be honest. I smiled, but it felt quite demeaning. A lot of girls are like that due to insecurity.

wait.. is this not a zombie movie like the other 2? it sounds more like social commentary or something the way you guys are talking about it

>>212096697 (OP)
Let me see if I can try to understand it. The virus that makes you so mad you can't even see straight and don't even bother eating so you die of starvation and exposure after about 3 or 4 weeks, mutates. So now people are just really mad but not so mad that they can't sit around and cooperate on scavenging or hunting or whatever they do for food because that's what you got to be able to do in order to make a movie 28 years later.

Also it's about Brexit and how white people are bad or something.

Did I get it right?

>>212105697
He named him Sampson. Not related to the David and Goliath story at all retard. If you haven't seen the movie you should shut the fuck up.

>>212106309
>Also it's about Brexit and how white people are bad or something.
Exactly. No wall of texts needed.

for me, the film was about the tension between civilisation and primitivism. the savage accepts death as a normal part of life, while the modern man rejects it as too uncomfortable to even acknowledge. Spike's mother was left held up in a room, alone and without any dignity, because no one wanted to confront the truth of her cancer. so what does Spike do? he does what his father never could and willingly leaves "civilisation" behind, taking his mother on a journey that shows her humanity and worth as an individual. this is a brutal refutation of modern society's objectification of death

>>212105573
>He doesn't literally think they are animals you fuckwit. He thinks they do not have any of the essential characteristics of humanity beyond their corrupted biology. The woman's pregnancy acts as a biological filter, which is again, how the human body works. But the pregnant woman herself is not expressing any humanity beyond biological functions. She acts like an animal with human DNA.

This does sound rather similar to how jews and their shabbos pets view non-jews. Is the uninfected newborn supposed to be a shabbos goy? A "righteous amongst infected"? Maybe the rage virus is an allegory for anti-semitism too, not just white rage (as per that YT video analysis).

>>212096697 (OP)
>IQ percentile of 135
Holy fuck we need to rageban India

>aight let me touch your boobs hmm oh yeah yeah you have cancer 100% aight let me kill you and rip your head off
what did he mean by that? the father was right that guy was a psycho

I enjoyed it
Hench Fiennes impressed me

>>212106488
I started laughing when Spike handed him the baby and imagined he was about to throw it in the oven
>aaaavada kedavra

>>212106394
>he does what his father never could and willingly leaves "civilisation" behind, taking his mother on a journey that shows her humanity
No Spike took is mother on a hellish journey because there was a tiny tiny posibility that a crazy doctor could cure her. Thank fuck she was already on death's door or else she would have died on the way there. But noo the Dad was evil for wanting to keep his son safe and his wife in bed

>>212106259
Do you really think a guy who risk his own life to save his new family (Selena and Hannah) would join an insane cult who dresses up like the infamous Jimmy Savile?

>>212106543
The Dads mistake was mixed messages
He takes Spike on his rite of passage to make him a man (too early as per the village elders) but then disrespects his newfound manhood by hiding the truth (the mothers illness, the nature of the fire/the doctor, his affair with the teacher etc)

>>212105945
Druids are on my mind because I recently read a whole lot of 'Slaine' comics. Pat Mills is active on twitter. I might reactivate my account to ask him if he's seen this movie.

>>212106394
There are tiers between extremes. The infected are basically animals, modern pre-rage civilised man was basically waiting to die (like Jimmy's Father, the girls who die in front of a tv, etc).

The truly savage can't really even think about death at all. They just instinctively don't want to die themselves. The grounded, cultured, mature man can accept death. "Memento Mori" is the philosophy of the doctor-druid, not the naked raving psychotic. The community were afraid of cancer, but they could face the danger of the mainland, enemies at the gates, having to provide for themselves. Probably this would be most historically normal. Even for the classical/ancient world. Fearing bed-death and decay probably more than bodily harm.

>>212106426
God help me I will have to make my own youtube video to bury that retarded humiliation fetishist for good.

>>212105945
Where did you meet a shaman out of interest?

>>212096697 (OP)
I just watched it, it's complete dogshit.
>starts off trying to replicate the sheer panic and desperation of the second film's opening, but just comes across as boring and "safe"
>cuts to completely different characters doing bad Geordie accents
>go out the mainland for... nothing, they get no supplies or resources, they waste tonnes of arrows, and almost get killed for the fun of it
>pointlessly adds new "kinds" of rage infected, which undermines the simplicity of the first film where everyone just becomes a violent monster
>CG deer, literally couldn't even be bothered to go to anywhere up north with actual herds of deer
>the literal "women bonding while giving birth" moment with a fucking rage infected
>baby somehow isn't infected
>over-use of the whole "tearing their head off" thing, with the skull and spine motif, but it's not original or particularly shocking, just screams campy
>excessive infected nudity
>crazy doctor covered in iodine somehow surviving for years out in the open surrounded by infected, with no obvious signs of supplies
>the deranged pointless mum character they were setting up as some Manchurian candidate after she killed the zombie and forgot, turns out she's just got cancer and dies
>an absolutely insane ending of a bunch of Jimmy Saville impersonators doing some of the cheesiest backflipping combat I've ever seen outside of a comedy
Why is it that all these directors that return to do sequels to their lightning-in-a-bottle films years later all end up as hacks?

>>212096697 (OP)
There is a 135th percentile? Now I understand why I didnt like it, my IQ is too high at 74.

>>212106543
sounds like you were filtered if you thought the journey was hellish. the film was obviously critical of modernity, from the deforestation caused by the village, to the abandoned chain restaurant Happy Eater (symbolic of consumer culture and directly associated with petroleum) that the passage of time has revealed is hell. the opening scene even painted the apocalypse (the end of modernity) as a kind of salvation. the moments where Spike was silly with his mother and she reminisced in the meadow were downright beautiful, unlike the cold/sterile village
>>212106647
Spike's father also said the infected "have no soul"

>>212100796
Nailed it.

>>212104257
Nobody said MGTOW dumbass, but the rest of your take was pretty good.

>>212107178
I interpreted the deforestation as an invocation of ancient britain. The creation of the moors. And it's just a practical matter in the vein of "what do they eat?". Boyle and Garland are nerds. Garland wrote 28 Days because he was playing Resident Evil.

>>212105900
How did I miss this potential plot twist

>>212106770
Stateside, a white guy who grew up with a local native tribe. He had the call and one or two others, and they were all working together to get one of them properly initiated so they could start rebuilding the tribe properly. I won't ID the tribe.

>>212107620
Neat

Demonizing the father (of course) good "obviously pro-immigrant" doctor, clearly anti-british.
There were two good scenes and that was the chase scene and the mother monologue. The bone temple was retarded obviously made for seculars to feel smart

>>212107620
>>212107646
I had the call too and he was supposed to be my mentor, but I chose not to follow that path.

>>212107745
I want to believe this post is satire.

>>212107745
It doesn't demonize the father at all. It just sets you up to be relieved he's a good father only to make you disappointed like his son that he's not perfect and only human.

>>212106144
The doctor could give them the needle with the poison, so they could back home and she could die among her husband and fellows after saying them goodbye.
And being buried so they can remind her.

Instead of being boiled and let in the middle of nowhere.

>>212108029
>she could die among her husband and fellows
you are spiritually damned

>>212108029
Yeah I was on the doctor's side until the part where she asked for that and he freaked out, called her a stupid cunt, beat her over the head, and said the elders of zion say she has to die now.

I don't come here to talk how much this movie is shit, the staging outdated, the broken "emotionnal" scenes, the amount of cringe things...

But I'm astonished how AGGRESSIVE are some of the supporters of this movie.
Insults, condescension, putting euthanisa speach in the discussion...

Are you guys crazy?

Are there any jumpscares in this movie? I want to see it with my grandma

>>212108029
Yeah, I'll take the kino shaman boneyard graveyard thanks.

>>212108298
"speach"

>>212108337
Not really jumpscares, but there's some confronting imagery in the opening sequence and general viscerality which might be upsetting. If it weren't for the opening sequence I might say you're fine.

So there are other settlements knocking about?

>>212108342
>when you're an atheist and you need to replace good ol' rituals by cringe shit

As a Geordie bong, I found the geography in the film distracting. they go from Lindisfarne to Dr Kelson who seems to be in the Rothbury/Wooler area by way of Kielder, Sycamore Gap (a sigh went up from the audience at this) and the Angel (60 miles south of Lindisfarne). It was just distracting. They should have filmed in the College Valley, it's beautiful.

Dropped nearly 70% on the second week.

>>212096697 (OP)
>IQ percentile of 135

>>212108856
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet

>>212108029
>mum yuo must choose
>quick death that you accepted ages ago
>or many more days of confusion and agony while dad pretends to keep it together

>>212108298
This is either a poor bait post or you aren't from here if you type like this.

>>212109023
Pretend to keep it together
>Ey Spikey, wan some bacon, lad?

>>212108829
They wanted an excuse for different settings and were hoping locals wouldn't rat them out. They do this shit all the time, only locals know how bastardized the locations wind up.

>>212109108
>Okay Dah'. By the by, when's Rosie comin round agin? I wan a turn a'er. Waht ye mean I can' say tha? She a whore, i'n she, sleepin wi a married man?

>>212108771
>The son and baby stand a better chance without the dying mother. You risking two childrens lives just so you can have "muh preferred burial"?

i know the reporter is hot as fuck but c'mon she can barely speak english man why is she even there

>>212109101
"Here".

>>212109336
>Spikey, Yer carn't say tha, yer mam is up stairs like, she will ere yer

>>212096697 (OP)
>the IQ percentile of 135

>>212096697 (OP)
going to the drive in tonight to see it for my birthday

>>212108337
There's Power Rangers jumping.

>>212110052
Happy bday, anon :)

>>212110052
Happy birthday anon.

>>212110052
>drive

>>212105900
hmmm this seems incredibly logical.
still she has a hospital gown on, not sure how that fits into it

>>212105900
>>212107536
>>212109336
Are you all forgetting that any transfer of body fluids leads to immediate infection of the rage virus? If a person raped an infected, all that would happen is they'd become a zombie like the others.

>>212111101
Sorry, not >>212109336, meant >>212110702

>>212111101
>>212111135
youre right. the only possibility is he is immune but i doubt they'll bring that plot point back

>>212111101
if they were on their period sure

>>212111239
No, it's not just blood, it's any body fluids.

>>212111239
Are you retarded?

>>212106086
>Spike's mother is not a rage virus parallel
Yes, she is. What kind of life is she living with bouts of agony, fucked memory, and apparently blackout rage? She has no control over it, neither do the infected. She's doomed to die sooner or later, but it's more humane that she gets a peaceful, voluntary death to escape suffering. They even show infected screaming and clutching at themselves similarly, reinforcing the idea that they're in pain in some way.

>>212111101
Maybe she was raped first and infected later?

>>212096697 (OP)
Reminds me of the tower of Serb skulls

>>212111775
Again I am left wondering "if so, what does this mean?"

And again I must warn you "the theme of national conflict" is not a real answer and I will kill you irl if you try.

I really enjoyed it, midiwt direction brained retards like >>212099514 get caught up in some hamster brexit allegory but I thought its message about death was actually very sweet

I feel like I'm going crazy seeing the positive reviews for this shit.

Why the fuck was the pregnant zombie docile all of a sudden, wtf did the baby have to do with anything, why didn't the 12 year old child return to fucking safety, why did the mom wig out and kill the zombie at night, why didn't the dad do anything considering his son already asked him about the doctor before he went missing.

Fucking shit movie compared to the first, I legit don't understand.

>>212112962
It's just an astroturfing campaign, this film is objectively shit, don't worry.

>>212112962
It dropped 70% on the second week. Shills are going crazy

>>212112962
Remember when RLM were saying stuff like "Why did the black goo..." about Prometheus? How does that video look today? Do you want to be that for 2025?

I'm not saying you can't ask questions. I'm saying you're completely fucking blind to the intentions of the filmmakers if you can't figure this out for yourself. In general you shouldn't be talking about how easily confused you are if you want to sound smart. That should be a cause for concern.

>>212113537
Pretentious faggot cant even answer the questions lmao

>>212112962
They stupidly filmed 2 movies back to back, released this one, and are now panicking because no one will go see the next since this one was so shit. It's just shills saying it's good.

>>212113608
The pregnant zombie is rendered docile by pain and perhaps her deepest maternal/feminine instincts overpowering or redirecting her rage. Like how Don's rage was refracted through his self-loathing towards targeted violence against his family. The intensity of the behaviour of the infected can be modulated and influenced by other deep drives.

She's giving birth, which is probably the most intense and primal experience a woman can go through. And Spike's mother, going through brain failure, is also having moments of regression. Between the two mothers there's this kind of primal sisterhead which emerges and unites them for just a moment. You can call that retarded, but you're watching the third movie in a series about a violent psychosis virus.

The baby means a lot. This movie is about health, wholeness, and nature. It suggests that nature has a miraculous power to heal, that even the bodies of the infected will produce healthy new growth beneath the destruction they've wrought. And being present for this is more of Spike's initiation into manhood. He's killed, faced mortal danger, met various wise and unwise men, now he's witnessed birth and been completely responsible for utterly vulnerable life. At what point is this enough meaning for you?

Why didn't the 12 year old go home? Because he isn't a child anymore. English boys his age were sailing the world and killing men at many points in history. He wants to continue becoming his own man. Can't do that under his father. He has learned from him and learned he has more to learn beyond him. And he's just fucking upset. Again, he's 12.

The mother saved them from the slow zombie because she went lucid for a moment, and demonstrated the resolve that got her this far in life.

What the fuck did you want the father to do? Show us the results on your autism rational-behaviour calculator that show us what he was meant to do. The more rational a character is the better a movie is. I learned from imdb.

Why did the priest at the start scream 'yes' after he was infected?
Why did the alpha control the crows to scout ATJ and his son's position?

>>212114162
Residual control before psychosis fully took hold, he was in a moment of religious ecstasy, maybe also hinting he is one of the infected who will become alpas and retain higher cognitive function

No indication he "controlled" the birds, but there may be some communication between Alphas and the animal kingdom as they live more in harmony with nature

>>212112962
You got filtered

>>212114066
Nice.

The mom gaining super strenght to kill the fast zombie after being bed ridden all the time was retarded and this movie had many retarded moments

>>212114162
I'm not sure alphas control the birds. The series has often shown animals like rats fleeing the infected, maybe birds flee them too?

But crows also feed on the dead ones.

>>212114672
Pretty sure she only killed the fat baby one

>>212112491
I don't know, I'm still ruminating on it myself. Maybe it'll only make a more cohesive picture beyond just nationalism in retrospect once the sequel is out, but you can't say there isn't a nationalism aspect whether it's intentional or not. Off the top of my head at least the memento mori/amoris bs, because human condition and human connection were poignant themes even in the first two films.

Not ashamed to say I just took a moment and googled around and Fiennes leaked picrel about the sequel, so yes, more is coming about what little humanity remains within the feral.

I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of reunion between Spike and his dad in the sequel too, where maybe he comes to forgive his father's shortcoming better.

>>212114905
What’s the leaked pic? Is it the pic you posted

>>212114066
Holy shit thank you for putting it all so eloquently and succinctly, I'm sick of arguing with people about this movie, they're retarded.

>>212112598
>le heart wrenching euthanasia scene was so moving!!!

>>212114963
Holy fuck I've been wondering all week if it's shills or summer cancer and I guess it's summer.
Picrel means pic related, ie the attached screencap

>>212114905
That picture reads like a highschooler's essay on the themes of the short story they just wrote

>>212115567
I'm sorry if you never loved anyone enough, and I'm sorry for you in future if you haven't experienced loss yet.

>>212115888
Bro he's a boomer actor and it's a movie about zombies shot on a phone. People are asking questions we don't have answers to yet, we basically half of a 4 hour movie.

>>212115956
The scene just didn't earn the emotional impact it was trying to create. The mother needed to be a bigger part of the film

>>212115956
>kid gets super mad at daddy for cheating
>kid is cool after getting drugged and then taking his mommy skull, thank you wholesome chungus doctor

>>212116037
You're expecting too much from an anti-european self-euthanasia ad.

>>212106268
Me too. My girlfriend has lip fillers and she is gorgeous.