Ironman is a black woman now
https://youtu.be/VDZBLBzoHbE?feature=shared
>>212149321 (OP)>capeslopburn in hell shilljeet
Nobody cares about this shit anymore
>IronMan's motivation is to stop people using his weapons to kill
>her motivation is to be iconic
Shits so tiresome.
>>212149321 (OP)Capeshit is dead
>>212149321 (OP)Comics sell like 5000 copies. They are canceling comics that spawned billion dollar movie properties with world wide appeal because can't hit order thresholds. There are no comic book fans. It's a dead industry run by gays and Trans diversity squads with art from 3rd world sweat shops for below min wage costs that look worse than an airplane how to buckle seat belt pamphlet
>>212149321 (OP)I guarantee you that post was made by a Disney employee.
>>212149321 (OP)Why is the suit design so bad too?
>Riri in the comics was a twat whoโs intro and motivation involved her autistically forcing her teacher to give her some adversity to become like Tony
>show Riri is a twat who chimps out and steals her suit
Neither of these characters had good incarnations that made them well received. They need to stop trying to force unlikable characters just because said character is part of the progressive stack.
>>212149321 (OP)Why do their jaws always hang?
I feel like even capeshit defenders must be tired of this dishonest cope argument by now
>>212152292That whole subreddit is nothing but astroturf. Millions of users, but only ever 200+ online. Most posts get 0 engagement, while posts of Captain Marvel somehow get 30k updoots. No real community looks anything like that. No one actually likes the Captain Marvel movies that much to still be seething about it years later to an audience of tens of thousands of other angry Brie Larson fans
>>212149321 (OP)Why so many negative reviews?
>>21215213520% ghost hominid DNA
>>212149321 (OP)If people are review bombing it they're retarded because it's implying there's a need to be political. It's the premise that's offensive and poorly executed.
>>212152135to create a dramatic "heavy breathing" look
>>212149321 (OP)Everyone sick of Ironman after the third film. The swapping in a new person as spiderman/ironman/whoever may work in the comics but it shows they fundamentally don't understand film and TV.
>>212152135It's the only way to add character drama to the photo because the rest of it is the suit. It implies action and worry about a subject offscreen. I swear you guys don't even like film here.
>>212149321 (OP)Didn't watch all of the trailer. But if she needed money, why didn't she just invent something thwt people ne3ded, patent and trademark it, and get an American company to produce her product? She could make a drone using those repulsor things to fly around, or an energy beam cutter that can make cutting through construction material and metal much easier. She could make a fortune the same way Tony Stark made a fortune.
they already made him black tho
>>212152362The internet is really weird. This place is pretty much the most active thing I know of and yet 4chan is supposedly near infinitely smaller than facebook, twitter, reddit, etc. The fucking bbc news twitter account gets like 1-8 comments per post unless it's the biggest story of the month. It all seems ass backwards.
>am i so out of touch.jpg
>>212153809>This place is pretty much the most active thing I knowTwitter is much more active my dude.
>>212153103I didn't get sick of him till end game. When he tugged his hoodie and nano machines came out and that was his armor he was basically a god and uninteresting. He had to die because he already reverse engineered the gems and would be comically over powered
>>212154372I'm sure it has many more users but it seems like you can't have a conversation in the comments there, and there's less traffic in amongst that conversation within the same viewport/scroll. Either way, it feels more real, even if we get marketers, astroturfing, autismo ritualposting etc.
>>212149321 (OP)>we got an Ironheart series before a Petera Negra onewhat the fuck was Disney thinking?
https://youtu.be/W14gdwSd68o?si=18y3BKnnnOK2pyfj
>>212153809I think reddit is just bots and pajeets because every gaming subreddit I ever visit has the same bullshit anti consumer tactics being pushed
>game comes out>people hyped>two weeks later issues with the game start to arise>people start making threads like "I like game x but I really think this needs to be balanced">for every 1 criticism thread 10 "Why is this community so toxic and evil" threads get made>this narrative starts to form that if you say critical things about the game you are a bad person and the subreddit is a bad community with all the complaints despite threads praising the game or attacking criticism are the majority of threadsEVERY SINGLE FUCKING SUBREDDIT IS LIKE THIS FOR ALL GAMES. This isn't normal
>>212153103>Everyone sick of Ironman after the third film.You are black. Go watch ironheart
>>212154522Moderator control is a huge part of that, but yes, bots and karma farming.
>>212152135Mouthbreathing
>>212154504>breefYou mention those bref mints ONE MORE TIME
>>212154564Yea that too. I remember when the guy that created and modded the Destiny subreddit was given a job at Bungie and absolutely no one batted an eye
>>212154647Wow, when she had hair I can see why he married her goblin ass
>>212149321 (OP)>check comments >almost every single one of them is russiankek, why do they care about degenerate western shows so much?
>>212153103Endgame and IF were good because of Tony
>>212154780Not notice this please
>>212154780>>212154905Stop gaslighting me you sluts
>>212155782>critical drinker is gonna tear you a new onesomeone wrote that
>>212154683That's not Jada, you fucking idiot.
>>212155937What are you going to do, huh? I'm all the way up here on stage, and you're down there, on the front row.
>>212149882because its shaped like a heart
>>212152135Because not everyone is a chinless incel who has to mew all the time like (You).
That looks good tho. They must be really racist if they think that looks bad.
>>212153491Tony kinda inherited the bulk of it but yeah.
>>212152135she can't breathe
>>212156075Blocked, muted, disgusted.
>It's just two people sitting and talking calmly for 90% of the trailer
>Extremely aggressive negro music blasting
But why
What's so hype about two ugly losers talking hypotheticals
Did... did these people not watch endgame?
Stark literally sacrificed himself to beat Thanos. Tonally this is completely inconsistent. Also what happened to Wakanda helping out black people all over the world instead of distributing weapons?
Doesn't this kind of shit on the OG black panther?
>>212152135It's either the jaw or the neck.
>>212154372Twitter is like 80-90% bots by volume.
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Avengers infinity war came out in 2018, and endgame the year after. I understand disneys atempt to milk the shit out of this franchise, but I really have no idea who still watches this shit, who would be willing to pay for it? Who are these tv-series and low quality movies made for, new fans? People who should be 25-35 yeras old by now? Is a gangster in detroit gonna watch this and say "hell yeah shaniqua is iron man now". Is a guy in china gonna relate to this and say "yes black iron WOMAN I watch, I get into MIT.
>>212149646God I hope so
>>212156483That wasn't in endgame. Thanos was in the advenger rebooted with door mamu
>>212154522that's because reddit is literally controlled by the US Military's cyberops division out of Eglin Airforce base. Not even joking. The place is pure manufactured consent. Enough astroturf can convince the average redditor to adopt any value or attachment. I wouldn't doubt that the cult-like obsession with movies like Captain Marvel and The Last Jedi were a test to prove that they could make people dogmatically defend worthless dogshit and then keep doing that for years, just to show how effective their manipulation tactics are.
>>212149321 (OP)>Iron man makes no money nowGet woke, go broke! HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>21215658990% of people here might well be robots from the way you all act. Can't really tell if anyone here is human majority of the time. Hard to believe real humans could act the way you all do.
>>212156760You just can't carry a woman of color in the spotlight. It's not for you but you should buy tickets even though black women won't watch it but that's okay because they are being represented to you, but only if you BUY A TICKET!
>>212156826You can tell they're human because they act that way. That and we've got a ton of unironic pajeets and they are literally clinically severely retarded
>>212156826>>212156947I made 17 posts in this thread. Not OP.
>>212149321 (OP)Could have easily shifted the character into being Morgan stark & had a show about her being Tony's daughter & living with his shadow hanging over her, but nope we get this slop instead
>No this has nothing to do with Iron-Man she builds her own thang
what did they mean by this?
>>212149321 (OP)Not even normgroids care about Marvel anymore, why do you?
>>212156826"If I were a robot, Iโd probably have better Wi-Fi and fewer emotionsโso, no, Iโm very much human."
Sorry, trying to watch new show.
Can someone tell me what "finna" means in English?
>>212149321 (OP)IronWOMAN. Got your prononce ruight
Wasn't gonna watch it even if everyone was white.
>>212158155'finna' = 'fitting to' = 'going to'
>>212149750>mfw we live in a world animeshit is now more popular than comicsthe fuck happened in the last two decades? we used to make fun of animefags and now their industry is bigger than ever.
Meanwhile my local game store is now selling manga while the 5% of products is comics.
>>212158245oh fuck me
Yeah that's right.
>>212158403>nowAmerican comics and american animated shows have been dead for more than 10 years. Anime has been reigning supreme for a long time.
>>212156760How did this happen to Ironman?
>>212155782>Only Russians criticize capeshit.
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>>212156760We'll see in avengers: doomsday if that's true
>>212149321 (OP)>New MCU character needs approval from legacy MCU character
>>212158403>the fuck happened in the last two decades?Communism.
>>212158832Look at this and tell me it's not kino.
>>212149321 (OP)based. every white superhero should be black. like c'mon it's 2025.
>>212149646>comics boom in the past>all the nerds wanted the latest issues at all times>suddenly the powers that be decide it needed powerful women who need no man>that it needed more diversity>less sexy women because women aren't objects>comic sales completely tank>movies for some reason decide to follow the exact same pathThey did a trial run of this diversity shit, it failed, and they're doing it again anyway. Fuck em.
>>212158519comics were doing fine durings the 00s as far as i remember but it started going to shit in the 2010s.
>>212158809The "No, Ivan" poster seems like an actual schizophrenic. Either an Eglin /k/ike or a devoted liberal true believer.
>>212153103>may work in the comicsIt was a disaster that bombed and was cancelled immediately. Captain Marvel was cancelled 8 times since 2018. America Chavez was cancelled mid its first run. Ironheart and Miles Morales only exists as tumors in teams ups with characters they retired few years ago.
>>212159060>The "No, Ivan" poster seems like an actual schizophrenic.He is a schizoid but he's either a janny, or sucks janny's cock so he never gets banned and reporting does jack shit. He successfully derails countless threads.
>>212149321 (OP)Putting aside the whole black woman angle, what is even the appeal? Its just ironman... again? The shots with the suit would have been cool if we hadn't seen the exact same thing hundreds of times over the last decade. What is the point?
>>212156483>what happened to Wakanda helping out black people all over the worldT'Challa died because Gods punished him for his putsch against rightful king of Wakanda Killmonger, so dem programs got cancelled.
>>212159012>>212159103Funny how they're following the exact same pattern comics did, they're crashing and burning, but they keep going.
>>212159103That retard knows nothing, everyone fucking hates Ironheart. Thats why marvel puts her on the spot just like ms.marvel just like captain marvel. They won't ever accept that forcing unlikeable characters on audiences never ends well.
>>212159153>Its just ironman... again? Lol no. Tony is an interesting character. His appeal is being a charismatic jerk and millionnaire womanizer, but this girl? No idea what she does.
>>212158790He was very popular for a lot longer than almost any character like that would have been, in terms of how many times they're appearing and how consistently the audience is buying into it. There's like - James Bond, Iron Man, and then it gets very difficult to pick a third.
With Bond they've had to completely reimagine the character multiple times, and it was never shackled to much of a consistent world to begin with. With Iron Man it's stuck to RDJ. It's amazing it lasted as long as it did.
>>212159103There was something about how bloody minded the comic books were in the 60s, 70s, and 80s that really made them work. They got too sensitive to the audience in the 90s and since to really make a character stick.
>>212149321 (OP)I thought Marvel was done for good.
>>212149321 (OP)the part that's annoying is that all of her actions SHOULD lead to her being a villain, but for some reason she is a hero
>>212158155Am I racist for seeing lots of chimp features on her face?
>>212158905Diversity is listed twice.
>>212160269Her hair is pulled so hard back that she looks like she has severe male pattern baldness. Also her nose is a very odd shape. The rest explains itself.
>>212159290Ms Marvel is fun, she has charisma unlike the other two, the streaming series sucked ass because she's just a mage and the actress isn't charismatic.
When everyone saw japan's version of her in Marvel Tokon's reveal they all loved it.
they do it to piss you off you fucking retarded niggers. you absolute gullible buffoons. if you just ignored it, didnt give it any money hate-watching it it would just flop and disappear but you're as obnoxious and retarded as the libs who scream "racism" at everything
>>212159234It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
>>212153009Incels. As long as they don't have to prove they watched something, review bombing is their sad flailing at creative artists.
>>212161901I don't watch it though. I laugh at how much money Disney is wasting trying to make me mad and how much Disney cum you try to swallow.
>>212159153All the people that miss Iron Man are suppose to be automatic fans of Ironheart.
Same thing happened with Han Solo.....they kill him off, and than Disney is like "All those Han Solo fans are still out there, we are gonna give tham SOLO the movie so they are not so sad."
>>212160269>wide, bridgeless nose, huge nostrils>massive orbitals, wide-set, small eyes>huge mouth with defined laugh lines>small, sloped forehead>low ears>round face, midface takes predominance with a small jaw and almost non-existent top-thirdno, she literally has simian features. there's a reason AI still has trouble distinguishing blacks from actual apes
>>212149321 (OP)>black iron man>shes literally a criminal that steals shit to pay for tech
>>212149321 (OP)I literally can't stop review bombing these creatively bankrupt, poorly written, horribly acted, identity-politicking/activist themed, goyslop diarrhea spray that (((Disney))) tries to coat the world in. I can't stop and I won't stop. See you all in comments section of their next one.
>>212149321 (OP)That's Iron heart.
>>212158832Pure marvel kino.
>>212162249>All the people that miss Iron Man are suppose to be automatic fans of IronheartRight..Iron Man fans will love this series where they trash him and his legacy while trying to profit out of his story. This can't be Disney reasoning?
>>212149321 (OP)>Jarvis, activate nostril boosters!
>Black Ironwoman
>Cheats
>Steals tech
>Joins a gang
>Friend's family killed in a drive by
What did Disney mean by this?
>>212152362yeah reddit has a deserved reputation for being a shillhole but r/marvelstudios is on another level
>>212149321 (OP)No, she is Iron Heart. Chuds simply don't accept black women because they think they will "steal" the spotlight of white male characters.
>>212164962>black women steal
Riri's first suit was literally made with stolen parts, the character was that stereotyped.
There's a difference between not being able to handle and just being fucking exhausted of seeing and hearing niggers everywhere you look
>>212158870>doesnt post the edit replacing RDJ with his character in tropic thunder
>>212149321 (OP)Why on Earth would anyone still care about this drek?
>>212158403The irony is that the Japanese stuff unironically did diversity better than the american cape stuff. Jump readership is about equal male and female. And that's not getting to all the different magazines that cater to different groups of audiences. Turns out things do well if you just make them like how the audience wants them.
Why the fuck do they keep making shows fucking no one asks for or wants then act completely baffled when they flop and no one gives a shit?
>>212158155>Your girl finna be bigger than Jobs
>>212165909Who nose where their motivations lie.
>>212149646>Capeshit is deadFor real this time. Unlike the past 10 years of /tv/ saying it after every Marvel Movie
>>212165909They tried to bury this one since a certain election didn't turn out the way Hollywood execs wanted but if they couldn't scrap this like DC did with Batwoman so they just threw it on D+ with barely any promotion and are pretending it never happened. She'll be in the New Avengers movie though
>>212165909Apparently this one was planned a while ago, back when they were over zealous about churning out shit ton of TV shows. Then it hit on them that it's not working and they got to scale back on that shit and quietly cancel/ put on indefinite hiatus for a bunch of planned/ announced shows. But now they're in a conundrum. Cancel the show with a black female lead? Yeah, good luck with that.
>>212159059>comics were doing fine durings the 00sBullshit. They never recovered from the 90s crash, they just became exclusively nerdslop which slowly drove away the grognards through constant ragebait and the beginnings of diversity pandering.
Ten thousand sales worldwide was considered "good" for Marvel/DC during the 00s.
>entire character motivation is wanting to be recognized as "bigger than Jobs" as a black woman
>pursues this by lying, cheating, stealing, and allying with criminals
There's no way they didn't realize the picture they were painting with this
>>212166228No no you're misunderstanding she's not stealing she's liberating those parts and she's not joining a terrorist organization they're freedom fighters and its okay because she's marginalized going to an Ivy league school with all the resources available to her you need to check your privilege before speaking about a strong African queen
>>212149646Thank fucking god. I hope it dies for real this time.
>>212166228>There's no way they didn't realize the picture they were painting with thisThese propagandists can't endear a character to people and think they are presenting real life issues but their propaganda has the literal opposite effect because they never think it through. They can't write basic plot arcs.
It is a bit like their obsession with ugly people because their ideology dictates they should have ugly people because it is real but then having ugly people speak ugly lines doesn't make people like your ideas.
>>212166308The next Avengers movie will break a billion.
>>212149321 (OP)why do comic books always do this
>what if we took x character but made it a girl/black/a dog/etcshit? i dont care about super girl or super dog, i care about super man. i dont care about iron black man or iron black woman, i care about iron man.
>>212149646You faggots have been saying this since the first Avengers movie and yet we're still looking at the biggest media franchise of all time that brings in billions annually.
>>212165729>4 writersWhy does a comic need so many writers?
>>212158403anime and manga is still made by japs with some support from chinks and gooks
comics were taken over by people who hate comics and the people who read them
quite similar to the takeover that happened in western gaming industry but it's not doing as badly as comics yet
>>212168361>movies and tv shows are no longer made by people who loves and cares about movies and tv>comics and video games are no longer made by people who love and care about comics and videogamesHow did minorites get full control of media and entertainment and turn them into soapboxes again?
>>212168680kikes that own the industries hired them
>>212168680A bunch of faggots inherited IP's and were already compromised and didn't stop infecting since then. They were aided by a feminist HR/liars and a completely out of touch C level.
>Do our 95% white male audience want a whiny bitch nigger?>No?>Surely it is the current audience that is Wrong.
>>212149321 (OP)>Character is blatantly a villain>Call her a hero Liberal writing 101
>>212153103It doesn't even work in the comics lol. The only two now that get pushed so hard despite overwhelming backlash is Miles Morales and Kamala Khan.
>>212149321 (OP)I see this thread is being comment bombed. Real mature guys, I've notified the mods.
>>212154522same thing happens on steam forums, coping shit-eaters and fangoys spam anyone criticising dev-greed or bad game design.
There's a legion of terminally online losers who over-invest their hearts into a single videogame, and mindlessly attack anyone who criticises it, because they lack the iq to realise that not addressing customer complaints is what kills games, not people bitching.
>>212158155this bitch cant breathe through her nose?
>>212159012it wasn't a trial run
they want to saturate all media with ugly nigger shit
>>212149321 (OP)Does she fires misiles from the nose?
Autoplay showed me a criticism video of this and the first thing it pulls up is some sort of ugly black transexual fluid gender whatever with lipstick and shaved head being called beautiful?
What the fuck is wrong with writers nowadays?
Who watches this shit
>>212158905Love how diversity is listed under fiction. Even the retard execs know it's bullshit.
>>212149750Comics are massively pirated. Like 99% of readers are reading on readcomiconline.li
Marvel knows this and doesn't care.
>>212149321 (OP)Riri's early comics were honestly shit though
>>212169386yeah we're gonna go ahead and lock the thread guys, please remember to be civil and not feed the trolls.
ALSO IT IS THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF ALL r/tv MODERATORS THAT TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS AND THAT BIPOC ARE VALID AND BLACK LIVES MATTER
>>212149321 (OP)I don't care about the nigress that much but have you noticed how much has the technical quality of these movies has degraded? This looks like shit in the camera work and the CGI department even without accounting for the monkey inside the suit, just go back to Iron Man 1, i never once doubted that the armor was metal, but this looks like an Unreal 5 texture pack
Yeah it's for diversity points but I think that's secondary now.
Now they cast niggers to deflect from the inevitable criticism of quality.
God is dead, social engineering kikes replaced him with political correctness.
ABSOLVE YOUR SINS AND ADMIT YOU LOVE SHEBOONMAN OR BE OUTCASTED FROM SOCIETY WITH ALL THE OTHER INCELS
>>212158245'finna' = 'fitting to' = 'fixing to' = 'going to'
>>212158403simple because the anime market caters to their audience, they don't care if it's politically incorrect or "bad", they just do it because their readers will read it.
>>212154504Summarizing missions and analytical reports is kinda hard
>>212170305>the secret to success is giving the audience what the audience wants and likesYet all modern writers think they know better and refuse to give the audience what they want. I wonder how long they can keep doing this before they run out of money.
>>212170625I mean to be fair there is a level of bad I think maybe they should do some soul searching.
Like all the isekai shit, I get the appeal and why it's popular, but that shouldn't excuse the absolute terrible writing and inconsistencies. You can have your power fantasy AND have good characters and a decent story.
>>212158403>>212149750since 2013 the writers have been using comics as a pipeline to get into hollywood and they only invented characters like kamala khan and riri to court hollywood into making them into adaptations so in a sense we have come full circle.
>>212170699I dont like Isekai animes but they are way better than modern shows especially cape shows.
If it was a proper black movie I would like it. Not woke shit. A proper black movie would be like the culture of rap music.
>>212171715Being better than capeshit written by trannies, with a bunch of niggers as the lead actor, and with Pajeet in charge of the CGI isn't a particularly high bar though, most isekai are complete garbage barring some anomalies like Konotsuba( Season 1 only) and maybe Overlord (Season 1 only).
>casey casem voice: this summer
>negress's like you have never seen them before
>more stealing, cheating and crime than your granpas superheros
>prepare yourself broocli heads for ......
>NIGGERMAN ... BUT A WOMAN
>que epic john willaims score
>>212172195>Overlordit fell off badly yes. But Konosuba retains its quality all the way throughout.
why cant i pickup girls in the dungeon is a great isekai (stupidest name tho), so is Shield Hero, black company, hazurewaku is also fun. Loads of good stuff out there.
>>212171233DEI isnt just for the actors. They stopped using competent white men at ILM and are using jeet sweatshops in hyderbad now
>>212172940>broocli headsKek
>>212173072>lists a bunch of crapYou just like thar flavor of sloppa, it's ok
do they trot out this line of "review bombing", "racism" or "sexism" everytime they write and screen a pile of crap?
because that's what people are tired of...consistent crap being force fed as if it's good, and being accused of all the above if it isn't accepted as "the bestest thing ever"
>>212156075But their nostrils are so big
>>212153009Sheboon girlboss breaks into Tony Stark's lab, steals his tech and appoints herself as a genius and superhero, all because she's pissy that a random teacher told her she's a useless retard and will never achieve anything (Which is true given she had to steal Tony's shit).
>>212173624Yes, of course. They call everyone who has even the slightest, most reasonable criticism a chud. That's why studios loved to do this shit: it was a win-win. The normalfag masses are (or were) going to see the garbage either way. Then by including all the DEI shit, they get diversity checklist brownie points, AND a built-in defense force of terminally online lefties.
The problem is, it's stopped being the case recently: the normalfag masses are no longer mindlessly consuming everything without complaint. The so-called modern audience has yet to materialize.
>>212169656This is easily debunked by the widespread apathy observed on every fanbase. Those 40k weekly top seller numbers thrown around are probably accurate.
>>212158519>American comics and american animated shows have been dead for more than 10 years.and it's not recovering all the American animators know how to draw is calarts.
>>212169656Manga is also heavily pirated. Didn't stop them from selling well.
>>212174875>Manga is also heavily pirated. Didn't stop them from selling well.manga sell's well because of the piracy i refuse to pay for the shitty fanfiction translations now i know better but back in the day before i started studying the language i was a huge buy fag if i loved a manga i pirated i paid for the books.
>i-it's review bombing incels!
>>212174945Ohnonono, what happened?
>>212149321 (OP)>Scissors hops into Riri's lab through a mirror and has appeared with the specific purpose of stealing her stolen tech for purposes related to the rider war>tanks all of Riri's weaponry with his guard vent and constant mirror hopping >disables her armor with his strike vent>chucks Riri near the closest reflective surface and feeds her to Volcancer>Riri is reported missing soon after, with the discarded pieces of her Ironheart armor being all that's left
Review bombing doesn't exist
Tony Stark: an asshole billionaire selling weapons, injured by his own weapon with a sense of karmic poetry, forced to build a weapon in a cave with a box of scraps, learns some humility. It's a simple point which has meaning.
Riri spends the first half of the first episode saying Tony Stark is bad because he had all the resources in the world when in actuality his first suit was built in a cave. And that man died fighting to save half the universe.
So now not they have to eat their cake and have it too. She has an MIT scholarship and could be successful but SHE spoils it because "wahh no resources". That's not karmic poetry. That's not a simple plot. That's messy fucking storytelling to get you to poverty porn.
Heck of Riri had started as a gangster selling weapons to crooks and then her family got injured by a weapon, that would be an interesting plot paralleling tony Stark.
>>212168361The story isbthat Marvel and DC thought thry can save money by forgetting the big name artists and writers. Replace them with young talent across the board in one swoop. Currently that new talent is begging for rent money on GoFundMe but the old guard is doing their indie peoject and making more money. /co/ has had some amazing leaks on how Marvel Comics realised it fucked up and is still pretenting everything is alright.
The industry also made it harder to follow monthly sales numbers when they switched to young talent.
>>212161901>Just ignore it if you don't like it!!!
>>212158403>>mfw we live in a world animeshit is now more popular than comics>the fuck happened in the last two decades? we used to make fun of animefags and now their industry is bigger than ever.>Meanwhile my local game store is now selling manga while the 5% of products is comics.The Manga industry is very protective but it's also that most manga is produced by one person compared to a company the DCMarvel where SJW's were able to infest, take over and destroy from within like cockroaches!!!FACT!!!
>>212177626>manga is produced by one personI mean this simply isn't true, manga often has one named creator but is often produced by teams of people.
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>>212160269>Am I racist for seeing lots of chimp features on her face?No, I love black girls and she's fucking ugly!!!FACT!!!
>>212177650>>manga is produced by one person>I mean this simply isn't true, manga often has one named creator but is often produced by teams of people.That depends how big the franchise is and how long it's been running, like how Batman/Spider-Man comics are made by a number of different people and not just one.
Otherwise it's just one guy doing his thing like Junji Ito while this gives me the opportunity to post this video....
https://youtu.be/Vv3dpRg7XXk?si=xITWONj-Bi8a7d2k
!!!FACT!!!
>>212177176Why would one want to see a random do the things your favorite character does when your favorite character exists?
>>212177176Isn't the whole story about her committing literal crimes for more money? After the immense funding she received ran out?
>>212177775>Junji ItoIs that your onlyour frame of reference for Japanese comics? The guy's great at writing and illustrating horror, but Ito actually talks about his neighbors doing the finishing touches on his pages in his Manben episode.
>Horror Anime RapMumble rap is shit.
>>212177775>like how Batman/Spider-Man comics are made by a number of different people and not just oneNo, this is not what I'm talking about. You're ignoring all the uncredited assistants and others. It isn't even about big series, the simple fact is many series that claim a singular author are in fact not made by just one person. It's a big problem in my eyes because it's confused people like yourself.
Sure there are individual creators who make good work, but posting about one single creator doesn't change the fact that uncredited assistants do a lot of work.
I really think you've fallen for the meme of:
>Thing bad>Thing Japan goodAnd I say this as someone who likes manga. Your perceptions are just wrong.
>>212156033Oh yeah, that's correct. But he continued the family trade by making more weapons for the military and some of the stuff he made for the military he even repurposed them for civilian use.
https://youtu.be/wDsHVUcXh94
Here is a clip of Stark having an interview and saying that he saved millions with advanced medical technology and the food from "intellicrops" all from military funding.
>>212152135Their big fat nigger lips weigh a lot and it's tiresome holding their mouth closed because all they do is eat soft watermelon and drink grape soda so their jaws are not strong and their teeth are weak.
>>212156033The BOX OF SCRAPS thing shows that even with nothing, that guy is legit talented enough to turn dirt into gold.
>>212178151It was a box of scraps....from a hyper advanced guided missile but it still makes Riri look like a spoiled asshole
>>212177176Didn't Stark build his first suit in a cave out of scraps?
>Tony Stark built this thing in a cave.. with a box of scraps
https://youtu.be/WJngbyHgS8E
Actually watch that scene and compare it to how the MCU is now.
>Scientists see Jeff Bridges come in and scatter
>Jeff slowly ramps up his frustration and towering body language
I'm not even saying that this is good cinema or anything, just that this one scene of a bad guy shouting at someone makes the average Disney + show look like garbage.
I get more from a one minute clip than a whole Disney show.
>>212178350The difference is stark.
>>212149321 (OP)>Ironheart>not Fe - Male
>>212178113https://youtu.be/3Q5f0QfeMQQ
This should work.
>>212174875Back a while when MangaDex was hit with cease and desist orders and had to take down a lot of Mangas, a bunch of people were really angry. I told them that Walmart and Amazon have tons of manga that they can buy. Their response was that the manga they were reading had not been officially released in the West, in the U.S. and Europe. So they were probably reading scanlations.
I guess they have a point and that U.S. publishers should look into acquiring more manga and translating them since they also print the books using American presses/factories.
>>212169656I read some pages of Ultimate Fantasic Four on a pirate comic book site. Should I buy the physical copies from Walmart now? I read other comic books(usually Indie titles) and will also buy those books.
>>212177969>Isn't the whole story about her committing literal crimesI'm only a few eps in but it's clearly setting up a redemption arc but it of course starts with her cheating for other in school projects and then stealing the suit she made. Being school was funding all her research.
Then she gets home and it's oh guess I'll do a big of group crime for the money until I can build what I need. I assume there is a redemption arc at the end.
It's not even that bad of a show by modern marvel TV standards. It's unapologetic in it's C4 movie meme of I'm black ya'll I'm blackity black black black. It's just really poorly written and it's painful as an educated white dude to listen to busted street lingo outside of gritty sort of cinema films. It's BS too being unless they are code switching (something they do) back in the hood college educated blacks don't speak gangsta by default, everywhere.
>>212178858I mean some Avengers started out as contract killers for the shadow government, or arms dealers too drunk to give a fuck who they were selling too, Hydra agents, what have you.
MCU isn't the Superfriends. Comics Avengers have had plenty of villains who've gone straight.
>>212169656If people couldn't read it for free they just wouldn't at all.
>>212169656Marvel's IPs have spun off into so much film profit that it's costs to operate are negligible.
The same way that Disney pulls in so much licensing/merch bux that even it's box office break-evens are hugely profitable, and it's regular flops don't really bother them.
>>212180214Make your thread from the other day again, save us from not discussing movies for another day
>>212180161Thor - banishe murderous irresponsible prince
Iron Man - boozy arms dealer
Hawkguy - assassin
Black Widow - assassin
Hulk - fugitive monster who self-treated with gov't formula
Scarlet Witch - Hydra agent
Quickslav - Hydra agent
Ant-Man - Thief and Felons
Really Cap is the only one without a villainous backstory.
>>212180303hah forgot my namefaggotry!
That thread was semi-disappointing, a lot of pointless bitching about movies people hadn't watched. So /tv/.
>>212180312And Vision. They are the Noble Avengers.
>>212180330Still better than most threads, at least the names of some good films were dropped for the curious. Have a nice day.
>>212177775No, barring Katsuhiro Otomo and Masamune Shirow, almost all manga is penciled/written by the author and/or their editor, backgrounds by an assistant, inked by an assistant, lettered by an assistant, etc. Speaking about weekly/monthly works in major magazines of course, producing 16+ pages a week is insane even with all those assistants. What's important is that the creator owns the rights to their creation in Japan, if OnePiece man quits tomorrow, Shonen Jump can't just hire some hacks to make more One Piece until the sun burns out.
>>212180744How can that be true if he only owns one piece?
>>212180744>the creator owns the rights to their creation in JapanIirc only Togashi owns the rigths of his creation, that's why he can have 5-year hiatuses and the magazine has to put up with his shit. The magazine owns the rights of all the other mangakas.
>>212180161Yes, but they were charismatic and likeable.
>>212149321 (OP)>no young cute black girl >no ghost AI Tony Stark They canโt even copy dogshit comics right anymore
>>212149750>They are canceling comicsNo? They are not doing that. Propaganda > profit.
>with art from 3rd world sweat shopsYes, of course. Never the whites.
>>212181174Who is her Jarvis then?
>>212149321 (OP)Incels are mad at her because she claimed Iron Man's armor as her and she identifies herself as "genius".
It's simple social politics you folx..
>>212168266Writer
Illustrator
Colors
Etc
Not 4 writers, come on, you have to be a woman, a leathery minge, to not know the most basic comic book cover rules.
>>212181406>implying everyone cares about comics
>>212159217>T'Challa diedi'm still kinda baffled how they handled this like they didn't try to differentiate the actor from the role
>>212166611>why do comic books always do thiswell
>Character is popular>Not popular enough to lure in target demogratic>"what if we make character different to bait more people in?"
>claims to be a genius
>all inventions were either created by complete accident (NATALIE) or stolen/copied (armor)
>>212166618>You faggots have been saying this since the first Avengers movie and yet we're still looking at the biggest media franchise of all time that brings in billions annually.Marvel had two commercial flops in a row with Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts and quite possibly will get the third one in Fantastic Four. They rebounded with Deadpool and Wolverine after the Marvels disastrous bomb.
Marvel will not bring billions this year, and probably even not a billion.
>>212149321 (OP)oh look another attempt to make theft and crime into a noble/justifiable thing.
Who was their target audience again?
>>212178582you think the average footwear liberator is going to get a pun like that?
>>212178858What? She is an amoral cunt that steals and endanger people's lives and those watched the whole thing say that she doesn't change and they use muh lower class and racism to try and always justify her shitty actions
>>212180161Yes some MCU characters are shady but they are HUMBLED. Even black widow in avengers when she though she outmasterd loki but then hulk went rogue and he almost fucking killed her and dont get me started on iron man, thor, hawkeye. All of them got their ass handed many times, all of them are likeable unlike Riri who is genuinely just a DEI character
>>212173364That turned out better than I could have ever imagined.
>>212169656Hell, you can just go to the weekly Win-O'- thread on /co/ as a one stop shop for every comic. Not to mention just flat out storytimes on /co/ where someone gets bored enough to post a whole series page by page.
>>212160269You don't even need to be racist to think that, because she's getting mogged hard by the other black girl stood right next to her.
>>212174875weebs are just dumb enough to buy it, comicfags moved past that.
>>212182735>comicfags moved past that.lol
It's the other way round. The cape fags (hardcore ones) are off buying MULTIPLE copies of the same issue because some have different cover page. Casual readers aren't doing that shit. Cape comics also cost more than manga, though you can argue that's because manga is mainly black and white.
Ms. Marvel did have a successful debut run and had fans so I get taking a chance on her with her own series, but Ironheart was clowned on from Day 1 in the comics due to her stupid backstory and not a single soul likes her, so I don't know why they thought people would want to see her in live action.
>>212149646Capeshit died in 2011 when Avengers hit theaters and grossed over 1 billion dollars worldwide. Normies ruin everything.
>>212182817>>212182836May be one of the worst hero origin stories I've ever seen
There are plenty of black female superheroes that comic book fans like. They just don't like genderswap bullshit. People like Storm (outside of the SHE IS OMEGA+++++++++ ACHTUALLY), Misty Knight and Nubia.
>>212182873I want to see more Vixen, but I know DC are cowards
>>212182943I was gonna say Vixen but I honestly don't know what people think of her, so didn't.
>>212177422>Replace them with young talent across the board in one swoopproblem is they haven't been hiring young talent
they've been hiring feminists, faggots and shitskins who hate the source material
like this newest example of a black woman ironman
who asked? literally nobody
the very first thing you should do before greenlighting something that takes millions to do is to figure out the target audience for that thing which for this piece of shit doesn't exist
Who would you say was the best villian of the MCU, /tv/?
>>212177681i've seen japanese dudes nutting in her eye
>>212182817>Ms. Marvel did have a successful debut runThis is actually false. I once did a deep dive into it.
Volume 1 sold very well because in part it was pushed in the Young Adult book market. But the volume 1 drop off was significant. Her "run" isn't successful because the vast majority of people read one volume of the trades. Later on her comics were doing numbers that would usually justify cancellation but they kept her going and then started messing the character around, and even the small group of fans that did read that stuff got mad at that.
Comic book fans are awful at telling what is or isn't popular.
>>212170305Cute girls uwu
>>212182943>>212183075I can think of at least two things I like about this character.
>>212173364>the thumb having a black face on itAI is awesome.
>>212174864Is this Transformers???
>>212158870I feel sorry for RDJ getting pulled back into the ongoing MCU disaster
>>212162364>haha wow guys the link sure is missing huh?
>>212183075She's cool and hot at least in the cartoons.
>>212156483>Also what happened to Wakanda helping out black people all over the world instead of distributing weapons?gibs?
gibs come from crackas
niggas don't be handin out gibs nigga
how did they see a dying comic industry and instead of adopting the golden age stuff they decide they'll adopt the dying age stuff
>>212183338>I feel sorry for RDJYikes, celebritybrains....
>>212158155Ugliest fucking nogs man
>>212149321 (OP)At last the two main actress have a nice ass
>>212164547niggers wont even notice this which I find even more funny
>>212183338Dont feel sorry, he got 100m
>>212158905>not pro-war>yes pro-rebellion that causes a civil war aight
>>212149321 (OP)>needs money.>steals
yep thats a black iron man alright
>>212183406She's got a fun personality too. She's basically a female Bruce Wayne, but doesn't turn the rich flirty party animal personality off when she's in her costume
>>212182817>>212182836>>212182871lmao how did this shit even get printed
>>212183487he could've gone on to make some good movies but he's stuck doing MCU trash for the foreseeable future
>>212183604I'm sure that softens the blow
>>212183888>he could've gone on to make some good moviesHe did. Dolittle, Oppenheimer and... Dolittle! Now he's back to Marvel.
>>212161901>um just ignore it and it will go away, chud. two more weeks.You've been saying this for over 10 years now.
And in case you haven't noticed, all their shit started flopping over the last 3 years once people started mocking this shit.
You're just another subversive faggot that doesn't want people seeing the obvious.
>>212181608>could easily use CGI to show BP's heroic last stand fighting 1000 abominations to save the world >he dies off screen of space aidsDon't know who made that choice but they/ them must've hated bosemann more than/pol/ hates jews
Could they just not make an original superhero instead of riding the coat tails of existing ones?
I don't care if it's a success or not, but it's just so fucking lazy to raceswap; and it's already lazy enough making a superhero movie.
>>212152292Redditors are the literal perfected goyim, they never tire about bending over to authority
They genuinely do not think in the same way human beings do
>>212149321 (OP)guess someone didnt get the memo about the pendulum swinging back
hard
>>212149321 (OP)>This is bigotry! This is oppression! We have to do something!!!>Should we watch the show?>No
>>212149321 (OP)I can handle them, I just don't like them and I won't watch them.
I honestly can't stand black women.
>>212149473So Iron Man and Captain America are now black.
The race responsible for the majority of violent crime in Western society where they have any kind of significant presence are now the biggest heroes in the MCU.
>>212149321 (OP)no one cares, but we'll still get daily threads for the racebait
>>212159060>an Eglin /k/ike or a devoted liberal true believer.worst dirtballs on the entire internet and its not even close
>>212149321 (OP)Marvelshit could've ended with Endgame and people would've been infinitely happier. All theyve done since then is completely ruined it for literally everyone.
>>212184127Most of the replies are botted because otherwise, users might have disagreements and disagreements end up with bannings.
I had a look there when this place was down and it's genuinely awful.
>>212153103I don't get the passing the mantle thing even in comics, and I'm not just talking about with shit like Miles or this, I don't even see the appeal of well-regarded moments of passing the mantle like Batman Beyond. I don't think there implicitly bad, but people like Spiderman or whoever else because he's Peter Parker, not just because he's a spider-themed superhero. From Marvel's perspective I understand how they might like the idea of being able to use an existing brand and having a fresh character attached to it, but for me there is zero appeal in taking an existing superhero and putting someone else under the mask.
>>212183213>volume 1 sold very wellSo her debut then...
Volume 2 clashed with the garbage Civil War II which, just like every other big crossover event, derailed EVERYTHING in Marvel, with Kamala as one of the central characters of CW2 in particular having to put everything on hold for that shit.
>>212160269Yes
Apologize to the chimps
>>212155782>@ayanjana7131>"No matter how much intelligent the plot armour makes you>You are never Tony Stark"
>>212182817>>212182836>>212182871absolutely and unimaginably surreal that this actually exists and wasnt some how derided and shamed into non-existence
>"ayo white teacha bitch, call me a nigga and spit on me so I can feed off yo racist energy! ineeed it ! FUCKIN DO IT BITCH">"DO IT BITCH CALL ME NIGGGA!"the absolute fucking insufferable state of marvel and comics in general
>>212174864Transformers ones were surprised this flopped?
>>212184628Please read carefully anon. I said Volume 1 as in the first trade paper back. I made that clear:
>Her "run" isn't successful because the vast majority of people read one volume of the trades.Her first trade volume collecting the first 6 issues or whatever sold well, the rest of that run didn't.
>>212184409Who gives a shit about kids movies mate
>>212184944You don't give a shit about the propaganda being fed to children?
Are you fucking retarded?
>>212182817>>212182836>>212182871I just can't understand why manga is more popular than comics....
>>212185027>won't somebody think of the children?
For some fucking reason to make her better and different than Tony Stark, she isn't just getting an Iron Man suit she builds but also magic abilities.
>>212185272so she's Dr.Doom?
>>212178805Official translations suck dick
>>212158155>finnaFixing to
>innitIsn't it
>>212154568>>212156075But why though? Every nog has vacuum tube-like noses, including the capuchin monkey playing Riri. Do they not get enough oxygen as it is?
Why do they always make them so smug and unlikable? And cast the least attractive african woman they can find? This could work if they just made her plucky and cute.