Thread 212151951 - /tv/ [Archived: 993 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:19:22 PM No.212151951
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Why does so much sci-fi have dogfighting with single man fighter ships in space?

Does rule of cool really really justify it? It's not that interesting
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:21:32 PM No.212152006
Amazingly you can work on a sci-fi movie or show without being a hypercreative person who can at will summon a continuous chain of novel ideas. It would be the first thing I filtered for if I was hiring crew for such a project, but alas, I am but a humble hypercreative.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:25:10 PM No.212152104
>>212151951 (OP)
>Does rule of cool really really justify it?
Yes, also BSG reboot is like the one example that doesn't just do it "because". The vast majority of small ship to ship combat is viper escorts running into a handful of cylons running recon. All major conflicts involve long distance missile barages, and the ones that don't are because they got ambushed by a basestar or battlestar jumping into close range, leaving no choice but to slug it out and hope to god you could jump away before getting nuked.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:26:23 PM No.212152140
>>212151951 (OP)
Capital ships going at it against each other is more realistic and interesting. If anything the "fighters" would just be small bombers trying to get to the weakest sides of the enemy capital ships
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:30:07 PM No.212152241
>>212151951 (OP)
>It's not that interesting
The popularity of the single man starfighter proves you wrong.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:33:26 PM No.212152335
>>212152140
If they're smart, the capital ships will have small interceptors to meet the bombers before they can get in range.
Those bombers are going to need small escort ships of their own to protect them from the interceptors.
See where this is going?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:37:35 PM No.212152460
>>212151951 (OP)
most of those big capital ships and basestars have defensive batteries like "flak" or some kind of point defence, but there are times when those systems go down, or might be destroyed, which would allow the enemy force to easily bypass the defences and destroy the big capital ship with ease.
vipers were used as a screening force, they destroy the shit that can destroy the point defences, and cover areas of the ship that lose the point defences for whatever reason.
conversely, you would use vipers to attack an enemy capital ship outside of the range of that ships point defences, then use the bigger guns on your capital ship to blow up their point defences, then use your vipers to exploit the gap in their defences.
what this all boils down to is having huge dogfights in the middle of the battle while the capital ships slug away at each other, so that both sides can react to gaps in defences, either defending or attacking.
thats BSG tho. star wars is literally retarded rule of cool shit that makes no sense. i guess you could argue that the rebel alliance doesn't have big enough capital ships to do much damage, so using fighters as a screening force is pointless.

in babylon 5 the fighters are used as a "shield" to cover vulnerable areas of ships and the station itself, which is a more pragmatic approach, but sort of depressing if you're the pilot.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:50:29 PM No.212152823
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>>212152335
Fighters could carry bombs as far back as WWI. Modern fighters essentially do double duty as light bombers.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:52:21 PM No.212152896
>>212152335
>the capital ships will have small interceptors to meet the bombers before they can get in range.
They'll have their own stand-off weapons that are unmanned
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:52:26 PM No.212152898
>>212151951 (OP)
2004 BSG should have kept the ship designs, and theme tune.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:54:14 PM No.212152950
>>212152335
>>212152140
>bombers
>in space
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:55:20 PM No.212152982
>>212151951 (OP)
Anon, most people are not autistic as to think or care about that sort of thing - and I say that as someone who thinks about those sort of things.
>Does rule of cool really really justify it?
Yes.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:00:13 PM No.212153131
>>212151951 (OP)
because people don't actually care about interesting sci fi, they just want cool action in fun settings. Your average slop viewer does not want to watch 2 minimally manned warships tactfully engage each other over the course of 18 hours on the opposite sides of a planet with ~1 hour between action and feedback
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:18:37 PM No.212153595
>>212152950
An object in motion tends to stay in motion. Obviously you're more liable to be using short-range missiles instead of literal bombs but kinetic release-and-turn delivery has some potential advantages.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:24:46 PM No.212153757
>>212153595
>release-and-turn mechanism
that's called a torpedo, not a bomb.

>an object in motion tends to stay in motion
yeah so if you open the bomb bay doors and "release" the bombs, they'll hang in space while your bomber that is travelling under thrust continues forwards and the bombs rattle against the inside of the bomb bay.
just admit that bombers in space is fucking stupid.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:25:07 PM No.212153768
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>>212151951 (OP)
Meat pilots are early tech. There will be drone pilots, not fighter pilots. Only need humans for commercial travel.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:25:32 PM No.212153780
>>212151951 (OP)
>Does rule of cool really really justify it?
rule of cool can justify anything
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:27:39 PM No.212153854
>>212153757
>that's called a torpedo
Light bombers and fighters (operating in this case as light bombers) dropped those
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:28:09 PM No.212153870
>>212153854
>dropped
>in space
you're not getting it at all.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:29:44 PM No.212153914
>>212153870
It's really easy for me to envision a vehicle dropping a torpedo in various environments. Sorry you're so low functioning.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:31:28 PM No.212153965
>>212153914
you're a retard if you think you're dropping anything in space.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:31:48 PM No.212153974
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>>212151951 (OP)
Why are there even weapons in space? Shouldn't a spacefaring species have evolved beyond the need for violence?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:32:35 PM No.212154003
>>212153757
Torpedoes are self-propelled though, and external bomb mounts are a thing.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:33:33 PM No.212154032
>>212153974
Welcome back, Gene.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:34:31 PM No.212154057
>>212154003
>external bomb mounts
ok so you're laying mines then?
because those shits are going NOWHERE in an environment with no gravity.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:36:11 PM No.212154105
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>>212153768
Almost shook my head at this during Maverick. Drone technology is just waiting for jamming technology to catch up.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:37:18 PM No.212154130
>>212154057
What part of
>an object in motion tends to stay in motion
did you not understand?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:38:07 PM No.212154159
>>212153974
get out of here ARM
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:38:23 PM No.212154168
>>212153768
Turns out Ender's Game back in 1985 with it's drone shenanigans, was right.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:38:29 PM No.212154171
>>212154032
remember: no fins, no fire!
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:47:33 PM No.212154489
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>>212151951 (OP)
>>212152140
It is crazy. The shows with more grounded space battles just don't have as much money thrown at them to get as popular. Hopefully some day it will become the norm because ww2 fighter space battles is REALLY played out and boring now.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:47:59 PM No.212154503
>>212153965
You're a retard
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:49:23 PM No.212154553
>>212154130
so what, your "bomber" flies towards the target at the speed it wants the bombs to travel, releases them, then veers off?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:52:53 PM No.212154666
>>212151951 (OP)
expanse is mostly big capital ships
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:53:51 PM No.212154688
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>>212152335
The capital ships are firing high energy weapons at relativistic speeds with ai assisted targeting. Every battle would be over in seconds without ever visually making out a target.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:54:53 PM No.212154732
>>212151951 (OP)
Preferred the original viper and Buck Rodgers ships
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:55:54 PM No.212154773
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>>212154666
Checked. The Rocinante is a midsize torpedo bomber they got from inside a capital ship. The Donnager is meant to carry multiple of them as escorts.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:58:34 PM No.212154861
>>212152140
>If anything the "fighters" would just be small bombers trying to get to the weakest sides of the enemy capital ships
>>212152950
>>bombers
>>in space
Yes, bombers in space. More accurately, "torpedo bombers" like they had in WWII.

>>212152898
>2004 BSG should have kept the ship designs, and theme tune.
Technically they did. The Mk1 Viper is shown in the museum in the miniseries, and the OG theme was turned into the "Colonial Anthem"
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:12:28 PM No.212155349
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:21:20 PM No.212155649
>>212154553
Basically, yes. As I said, a missile payload makes more sense but I can see a few useful features.
-no active radar/heat signature to lock onto
-doesn't react to most countermeasures
-greatly reduced fuel to weight considerations so you can carry a bigger bomb.

Really I just like the scene in AOTC where Jango jettisons a couple seismic charges behind him and fucks shit up.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:22:56 PM No.212155698
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>>212151951 (OP)

Limited to existing technology (no phasers and such) space combat would consist of spamming stealth guided missiles at any enemy ship.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:26:45 PM No.212155832
>>212155698
>bullets trying to hit other bullets mid-air
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:29:44 PM No.212155927
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>>212155649
Don't have a good clip, but they do that in The Expanse. Some ships will launch debris or broken up asteroids at other ships and it fucks them up hard when they fly through the cloud. Generally they're able to spot normal weapons floating far away unless they're stealth coated. And they can have an engine for the terminal phase.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:46:02 PM No.212156439
>broke:
Star Wars, BSG, LotGH, typical space opera shit
>woke:
Star Trek, The Expanse, Ghost in the Shell, sci-fi that actually asks: "what if X"
>bespoke:
Dune, The Book of the New Sun, JRPG space fantasy. Realizing NASApunk, "realism", and "hard sci-fi" is too limiting and boring. Expands the "what if" question to greater heights like exploring just how alien to us human's 10000 years from now will be. Fulling leaning into science as magic
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:46:48 PM No.212156469
>>212156439
jolenta wanted the btc
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:49:16 PM No.212156537
>>212151951 (OP)
Citizen of the Galaxy had neat battle scenes. The two ships got one chance to shoot one another as they approached, and if you were still alive that means you got the other ship. After that was just examining the printouts to see how close of a match it was.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:20:30 PM No.212157563
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>>212151951 (OP)
Most effective thing you could do in a space fighter craft is smash it into their capital ships. Can't pack big enough weapons onto them so turning it into one big missile itself is the only way.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:25:31 PM No.212157734
>>212151951 (OP)
Space battles would be almost exact replica of WW2 battles between aircraft carrier groups. Bunch of needle like tubes firing missiles and fighters against eachother with support ships, lasers and fighters trying to shoot enemy bogies down
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:32:30 PM No.212157990
>>212157734
No it would be more like super long distance submarine warfare
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:34:00 PM No.212158051
>>212157990
Exactly like BVR fighting is right now, but even further away and having to take into account orbital trajectories.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:36:22 PM No.212158131
>>212157990
It's kinda similar either way. The main concern would be finding the enemy, so you'd probably need an E type fighter doing AWACS shit and you'd want to send as many missiles/torpedoes, fighters and other low cost craft and ordnance to get the other guy first
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:45:04 PM No.212158418
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>small ships are harder to hit by bigger and less maneuverable ships
>enemy builds small ships to fuck your big ships
>you have to build your own small ships to counter-fuck their big ship fuckers
>it is now big ships + small ships vs big ships + small ships

makes sense to me
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:51:19 PM No.212158632
Expanse fanboys suck dick. They're always jerking off about realism when the entire point is some alien mutagen that's basically magic.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:53:02 PM No.212158688
>>212158632
doesn't help that the show is gay pozzed trash, the main cast sucks, and every 3rd extra/side character is some brown retard that talks and sounds like a drunk muppet with some ridiculous accent
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:55:31 PM No.212158767
>>212158418
That's not how it works at all. The small ships are the unmaneuverable ones. They can't hardly carry any reaction mass so run out of fuel very quickly. It's a big waste of space to make the large ships a small-ship carrier when they can load that space with drones and missiles instead.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:01:21 PM No.212158950
>>212158688
the show is 500 years in the future, it makes sense that 98% of humanity is some brownoid sludge culture with incomprehensible accents
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:07:36 PM No.212159142
>>212158950
if that were the case they would have never made it to that point technologically to begin with

the future is going to be mostly white + asian or it's not going to be the "future" at all
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:08:42 PM No.212159182
Realistically most space combat would be at long distance launching mass driver projectiles or some form of laser at each other, at relativistic speeds. Any fighter/bomber that tries to approach would be instantly destroyed by a point defense laser with perfect accuracy.

Drone swarms may achieve a critical mass of numbers big enough to overwhelm point defense systems, but then again you'd need A LOT of those for it to make sense. Like a ridiculously big cloud of drones.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:08:43 PM No.212159183
>>212158767
that is how it works though, when it's a quasi-fantasy universe where they don't use conventional means of fuel or propulsion
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:10:58 PM No.212159251
>>212158632
>when the entire point is some alien mutagen that's basically magic
That's not the point at all. It's only like 5% of the first few seasons and only there to get the real conflict started which uses space dogfighting. Jesus, you're fucking dumb and whiny.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:12:01 PM No.212159285
>>212158688
Most of the world looks and sounds different than you. The future when there's thirty billion people would look and sound even more different. what a giant shocker for your puny brain!
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:12:12 PM No.212159299
>>212159251
And the wormhole jump gates made of alien magic?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:15:04 PM No.212159397
>>212159285
actual seething shitskin tranny alert
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:19:06 PM No.212159553
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>>212159182
Basically any of your beloved scifi media has been ruined by the advent of information technology, advanced computing and AI.

Alien has 1970s-style casette futurism tech, Star Wars has 1970s-style casette futurism tech, even Star Trek has ship onboard computers that are quite primitive and comparable to what we have on our cellphones today, Star Trek space combat is predicated on the idea that computers will never advance further thus justifying the need of Human crews inputting coordinates to fire, etc.

I guess nobody expected we would have miniature handheld computers and AI before we had interstellar travel, but alas technology has advanced along very different pathways compared to what futurists predicted. Soon even fighter jets will be unmanned, this in the real world 2030-2050s not some far off future.

But real-life future space combat if it ever happens is gonna be some lame and gay exchange between two unmanned vehicles firing lasers at each other at relativisitic speeds with perfect accuracy. If you want to have Humans at the helm you are gonna need a mcguffin reason like AI being banned as in Dune or something.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:19:45 PM No.212159577
>>212159285
That's making an awfully huge assumption the problem isn't dealt with before then.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:20:47 PM No.212159623
>>212159553
"AI" computers have been a big staple in most sci-fi and our present day fancy Siris are nowhere near that.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:21:35 PM No.212159656
>>212151951 (OP)
yes it its, its cool as fuck
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:25:19 PM No.212159792
>>212152898
The BSG remake went out of its way to be faithful to the original series.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:26:42 PM No.212159843
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>>212159623
Star Trek crews need to pilot their Runabout ships or Peregrine fighters themselves, meanwhile in the real world the USG is already operating fighter drones in bombing or reconaissance missions, so clearly their computers are not as advanced as our own otherwise there would be no need for that.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:31:19 PM No.212160013
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>>212159553
Yes, it won't be a visual spectacle of fighter plans ala Star Wars, but it's still interesting. Maybe not fun for a blockbuster movie. It's more submarine warfare fought using screens from far away, and modern fighter jets do the same thing with BVR combat. And you die faster than you can blink without even knowing it happened. You could experience what future combat will likely be by playing Children of a Dead Earth.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:34:58 PM No.212160134
>>212159843
there's way too much anomalous bullshit going on in the trek universe to leave decisions up to a computer, and sending an unmanned craft out into the same space that has klingons, borg, and living gods is essentially throwing money and materials away
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:35:20 PM No.212160155
>>212159553
It's pretty much destroyed most stories kek. Horror movies need to have almost no cameras or communication yet everyone easily has it at all times in their pockets. They constantly need to contrive a way for them not to work. I actually don't mind when they just set the technology level to where no one has those things. Casette futurism is way more fun.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:40:56 PM No.212160348
>>212160155
It's fine and even interesting when they set up tech restrictions but I'd like to have a good in-universe justification for it. Like Dune banning AI, it makes sense to me.

AFAIK, Star Trek's Federation as of TNG refused to develop AI because it's a dangerous and unethical tech, like eugenics, and AI deserves equal rights so there is no chance to exploit it, so Data is a big exception with citizenship rights and not something mass produced, but that's not as easy to justify when you have so many unethical alien empires that realistically wouldn't pass up the opportunity to get an edge.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:44:20 PM No.212160460
>>212151951 (OP)
Because airplanes before the invention of jet engine and guided missiles were the coolest fighting method ever
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:45:45 PM No.212160509
>>212154105
Jamming was already solved in the ukraine conflict, by having drones operate via an optical fiber that spools out from behind the drones. Obviously this wouldn't scale well to drones that have an operational range in the hundreds of miles, but at that point pre-programmed targets become viable since with drones like that you're probably attacking stuff that's either stationary(eg. military bases), or semi-stationary(eg. weapons platforms).
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:46:50 PM No.212160562
>>212153757
Plane dropping a torpedo is called torpedo bomber, dumbass
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:49:46 PM No.212160682
>>212160348
I think that'd get really old really fast. I'm fine with things just developing differently in each series. Things don't have to always be the same in every single one. Everything in star wars is childish and unrealistic already, choosing a specific level of tech isn't anything harder to believe. I don't need anyone to craft a reason why all their ships aren't powered by AI just because it now exists in reality.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:50:30 PM No.212160708
Missiles are gay and lame, drones twice as so
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:52:29 PM No.212160787
>>212151951 (OP)
Browns will never understand how point defenders defending point defense works. Thereโ€™s a reason 40 drunk Spaniards could show up and conquer 100 million people.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:56:38 PM No.212160936
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Babylon 5 has single-seat Starfury fighters and it has some of the best space battles. No Star Wars-style WW2 dogfighting, mind you.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:00:40 AM No.212161077
>>212160936
>and it has some of the best space battles
No it doesn't. People watch B5 for the writing, nobody watches it for the battles.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:01:19 AM No.212161104
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>>212152950
>>bombers
>>in space
Rian Johnson PBUH introduced vertical bombers in Star Wars.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:03:15 AM No.212161170
>>212161077
>Severed Dreams was awarded the 1997 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, beating a number of major science fiction releases, including Star Trek: First Contact, Independence Day.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:04:12 AM No.212161204
>>212152335
in reality space battles would happen at extreme ranges and fighters would have no place
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:09:32 AM No.212161362
>>212161170
Dropped a shadow planetkiller on that other anon!
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:13:56 AM No.212161508
xyphon_288__sized
xyphon_288__sized
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>>212151951 (OP)
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:14:54 AM No.212161548
>>212161170
>>212161362
Recipients: David J. Eagle (director), J. Michael Straczynski (screenplay)

An award for writing and direction, not an award for space battles (which would go to the VFX team).
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:19:42 AM No.212161727
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:21:56 AM No.212161814
>>212161727
this is the kinda shit they were attempting to pull off in the star wars sequels but completely fucked it up
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:22:48 AM No.212161851
problematic
problematic
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>>212159792
>The BSG remake went out of its way to be faithful to the original series.

No it fucking did not.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:28:25 AM No.212162059
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>>212159843
there's no gps in space
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:30:47 AM No.212162139
>>212151951 (OP)
Easier to give actors their faceshots.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:33:18 AM No.212162220
>>212160708
>Missiles are gay and lame, drones twice as so
This
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:34:20 AM No.212162266
>>212154861
I thought a lot of the vipers they used were mark 1s because they were too low tech for the cylons to hack.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:37:25 AM No.212162378
>>212151951 (OP)
star wars did it and star wars ripped off battle of britain aerial footage. before star wars dogfights didn't really feature in sci-fi
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:37:40 AM No.212162387
muffit
muffit
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>>212161851
Is that such a bad thing though?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:42:51 AM No.212162592
>>212162220
>we need laser blasters so everyone can only shoot what's directly in front of them 10 meters away and still miss 99% of the shots even with a targeting computer and droids
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:43:04 AM No.212162600
>>212161204
No one would watch them, especially the TikTok generation with the goldfish attention span.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:45:28 AM No.212162685
>>212162592
Make your hyperrealistic space battles with distant ships shooting one missile a day and your summer blockbuster with the half a billion dollar budget will be a commercial bomb.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:50:24 AM No.212162841
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>>212162685
there's plenty of ways to still make it exciting while keeping it more intelligent than dumbed down ww2 dogfights
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:51:41 AM No.212162880
>>212162600
I dunno, a bunch of autists got together on the internet and announced they are making this scifi series and there's a lot of online hype for it despite no marketing and no corpos behind it.

https://youtu.be/LEpm1_j1dYM?feature=shared

I think there's a niche for this.

>>212162059
Irrelevant, midwit-tier cope reply.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:51:52 AM No.212162890
orbital
orbital
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>>212162685
missile? boring. these things can reload in about 5 seconds
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:57:34 AM No.212163068
>>212160509
So glorified TOW's then. That makes more sense that situations that just bring to mind The Phantom Menace with all the battle droids individually controlled from an orbital C&C ship.
Still seems like it'd leave them vulnerable so some sort of cutter, like the modern equivalent of chain shot.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:57:53 AM No.212163087
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>>212162880
Pretty neat
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:25:18 AM No.212163962
>>212162880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpD_KYbsuzQ
what are they fighting over the moon for anyway?