why does no one seem to care about the avatar movies?

No one gives a fuck about your "cultural impact" with any other movie, it's ONLY Avatar where it's suddenly brought up nonstop.

>>212175575 (OP)
>was the highest grossing movie of all time for a decade straight
>the only reason it lost that is because mahvelfags begged daddy didney to rerun their slop
>even after that the sequel was more successful than anything marvel's done in the last 6 years

i don’t care how much money they make. millions of flies are attracted to shit. the abatap movies are boring.

>>212175664
>bringing up marvel for no reason
Yeah you’re not obsessed and insecure at all

>>212175805
You're right, I'm not. You know what else I'm not? Wrong. You know what you are? Brown.

The only people who care about avaturd are located in New Delhi.

Nothing has any staying power anymore, we live in an adhd culture. What’s the last movie that did? Joker maybe, prior to the sequel.

>>212175914
Exactly. People can’t even remember what happened in the news 24 hours ago

>>212175914
unironically Gone with the Wind

>>212175575 (OP)
>no imprint on culture
>immediately forgotten by everyone
>says the guy who's actively seething about this perfectly forgettable movie 3 years after its release
lol

>>212175575 (OP)
Something can be really good without needing memes churned out all the time. In fact, memes are a sign there's part of your film that aren't respected and are laughed at.

>everyone forgot about it!
He said unprompted about it

>>212175575 (OP)
>spent 15 years talking about Avatar
Seems like impact to me.

>>212175914
While you're right, I don't think its the problem. The Avatar films are just boring. They're technically impressive, but the average moviegoer doesn't care about how a movie is made or what goes into it. There was always a lot of hype behind the movies because of marketing and the names attached to it. It probably was a great experience watching it on IMAX, but the movies aren't really worth watching without it.

idk I'm tired and should go to sleep.

because it's cgi slop, like a pixar movie
kids watch them but they don't really have any cultural standing

>>212175835
You’re a fat incel who will never experience pussy. Everyone loses.

Avatar will go down as the greatest sci-fi saga in cinematic history and this fact haunts the minds of dilettantes like tweetboy

The real question: How cucked does Costner feel knowing that more people watched and cared about a shitty remake of Dances with Wolves than Dances with Wolves? Meanwhile his movies all flop now

>>212176212
DwW won 7 legit oscars
Avatar won 3 oscars because of the budget

>>212176814
>pedo awards
all but the most zogged people who read gossip magazines do not give a damn about the oscars

>>212176931
sorry you look at the pinnacle of motion picture awards so bleakly.
surely your crusted sock award holds much more value.

looking for the cultural imprint of avatar franchise:

>>212175575 (OP)
I'm sure Cameron cries himself to sleep every night because his movies that made billions of dollars don't have le cultural impact.

My most explicit critique of James Cameron, bordering on hatred, is that he's utterly losing a comparison with James Cameron

The question is why does Avatar suck fucking dick compared to the iconic movies the same guy made thirty years earlier
The answer is he has the same disease that gave us Prometheus, The Irishman, Cosmopolis, etc.

>>212177251
Cannes is the pinnacle

>>212177323
>ha nice try chuddies it made gorillion dollars and the creators sleep on a pile of money, bet you feel stupid now
You can trot out this tired argument Jim but when people aren't interested enough to keep talking about a franchise between new releases the plug gets pulled eventually
>nu Wars
>Fantastic Beasts
>Sony Spider Man universe
>Sneederverse (and soon, Gunnverse)

>>212176113
>brings up sex unsolicitedly
Fucking weirdo projecting

>>212175575 (OP)
Dunno. Never saw 'em.

>>212175575 (OP)
avatar films aren't interesting in the least, people watch it for the technical aspect of them
just like people watch Mission Impossible for the stunts and not for the plot

because it's a new franchise made in a post merchandising world

All everyone talks about is how much money they make and never about the impact of the story or characters.

>>212177264
>Dogs possess between 125 million and 300 million olfactory receptors compared to a human's 6 million
>Scooby able to sniff upskirt Velma without drawing attention
Based dog.

>>212175575 (OP)
I've always thought the blue aliens looked stupid, they just look lame and not cool so I never bothered with the films.

>>212175575 (OP)
I don’t give a crap about gay Disney Star Wars, why would I give a crap about gay James Cameron Star Wars?

Wow, another twitter thread. Neat

>>212175575 (OP)
The Avatar series are true movies. If it was 1995 you would go watch a movie, talk about it for a day, and then move on with life. When the first Avatar came out, we were in a transitional period. Most people still treated it like they treated all the other movies. But this internet-driven culture of discourse was emerging. You couldn't just watch a movie and move on, you had to dwell on it. You had to analyze it, break it down, argue with it, argue with other people. By the time Avatar 2 came out, that's everyone. Everyone online is the neurotic over-analyzer who can't move past a single movie without having their tweet thread validated by everyone else.

>>212177371
Cameron made kino after kino for 15 years then has spent the last 30 making 3 boring as fuck movies that are only good on a technical level. Like Nolan he got too up his own ass about the art of film making or whatever the fuck and has forgotten that the primary purpose of a movie is to be entertaining.

>>212177618
The stunts in MI are interesting to watch.

Nothing in Avatar is interesting to watch.

The Palestinian flag is a good indicator to ignore a user.

>>212176212
The message of Dww and Avatar is completely different, Dww is just an excuse for every fat Scots Irish American to feel a little better about wiping an entire people off a continent. Avatar on the other hand is telling you that you have to do eco terrorism to ever have a chance of being a real human being.

A lot of bitching and moaning itt about Avatar but you're all going to have to cope hard again when the third one comes out again and Jimmy C makes another gagjillion dollars

kinda crazy how millennials went full slaves to make believe stuff. a millennial genuinely believes marvel characters exist somewhere

>>212177980
they're technical impressive and pretty
and the 3D effects unrivalled
turn your brain off, enjoy the spectacle

>>212178147
Wish I lived in your head, free rent :)

>>212178147
>kinda crazy how millennials went full slaves to make believe stuff. a millennial genuinely believes marvel characters exist somewhere
reminder some believe Wakanda is a real place

>>212175575 (OP)
the first one was only big because it had was full cgi and 3d
nobody that I know that saw it even liked the movie they just talked about the 3d gimmick

>>212177957
this
>>212178177
If you need to turn off your brain to enjoy a movie, then the movie is objectively bad

>>212178177
>turn your brain off
But I need my brain to pirate them
Nice try schecklestein

>>212175575 (OP)
>we spent 15 years talking about a movie that left no real imprint

>>212178660
Let me guess. You think saying 'meh, it's shit' is discussing

>>212176111
It's exceptional cg slop, every other Hollywood movie is dumped to an Indian call center

>>212175575 (OP)
How is "cultural impact" being measured? Because people are talking about something? If the comparison is something like Avatar to MCU and they're suggesting the latter has more cultural impact because it's talked about more frequently it's probably to do with the fact the latter has movies released on a conveyer belt and just keeps churning out new slop to keep it in the public's mind.

saying "it had no impact" for 15 years is still impact

>>212178695
Yes, that is an imprint.

avatar 1 - no impact
avatar 2 - people spamming pregnant and loli na'vi on /tv/

>>212175575 (OP)
Avatar 1 being the biggest movie ever isn't surprising, the 2nd one being nearly as big actually baffles me. I've never seen it and I don't have an Avatar hateboner like some people do but I completely missed any hype surrounding it, maybe it was bigger deal overseas/China? I'm not sure.

>>212175835
>Brown
Projection I see, Avatar is infamously beloved by Jeets.

Avatar is one of those, may allah forgive me for using xitter linguo, safecool movie. It's a movie you can take gay, nigger, liberal republican cousin to without any issue and have a good time.

>>212176212
The real redpill is that both moveis are shit for different reasons
>>212178177
>the 3D effects unrivalled
If you're Indian or a Boomer, Avatar 2 looked like a fucking PS2 cutscene half the time and is mogged by European schlock like Valerian on the CG front

>>212175575 (OP)
Forgettable actors/performances and the premise of these movies has been done to death.

>>212177371
Alita was his best movie in recent memory and he didn't even direct it. Really says something.

It's funny how people can't stop talking about how these movies have "no cultural impact". Seems a bit contradictory, doesn't it?

>>212178075
Also mark supported israel and jez palestine iirc.

>>212175575 (OP)
The movies don't leave people with a lot of "unanswered questions" that are there specifically to get fans talking and generate buzz for the next film or episode, eg Lost, Doctor Who, Squid Game 3.

There is no pre-existing canon and no extended universe to speak of, what you see on the screen in the film is more or less the extent of the world and plot at that point in time. There was a few video games, but these do nothing to expand the plot and are 1st person shooters basically, which means few people bothered to play them and the people making them couldn't even be bothered to make a proper avatar for the player (oh the irony).

Almost everyone is an alien, so you can't get chuds activated over there being some ethnic group or sexual deviance they dislike in the movie (eg. "A drag queen??? In a movie I wasn't going to watch??? This is WOKE, they will feel my wrath!!!").

Its a good film, with stunning visuals. Its not the greatest kino ever made but its certainly a treat for the senses and plot isn't too complicated for mid-wits to follow. You see it, feel better for the experience and move on with your life. But will be interested to see more if its offered. Thats how films used to be.

>>212175575 (OP)
blue tree monkees, who cares?

>>212178746
sure dude

>>212178971
Alita was dogshit as a movie and as an adaptation

>>212179022
Woke=bad
objectively
deal with it

>>212179047
Apparently lots of people, since the first two movies made over 5 billion.

>>212179047
>who cares?
Indians, Chinese, and Europeans love these movies and I have no idea why for anyone other than Indians.

>>212175575 (OP)
When Avatar came out, everyone watched it in the theaters in 3D. It was a bit cultural event. The only difference is, we didn't talk about it on twitter

>>212175575 (OP)
I watched avatar in the cinema in 2009 and I remember nothing but the giant yellow machine and the main guy with no legs getting into a pod. I do remember the 3D gimmick being quite crazy and reminding me of a planetarium (being given the glasses). If a movie was immediately forgotten by a 5 year old boy and never watched again, then it clearly cannot be anything good. I had and still have no desire to see the sequel, because 3D cinema is completely dead (and has been since around 2010ish). I remembered way more about Son of The Mask for fuck sake, and actually rewatched that and would rewatch it again. Who gives a shit what normgroids on twitter talk about, they watch slop like love island and discuss it en masse all day, everyday. There was no cultural impact besides introducing 3D for those few short years.

I like Avatar actually and look forward to Avatar 3 this year

>>212179161
FOMO shit.
Nobody remembers the character or the story.
It's just the event effect

>>212179388
t. bot

>>212179435
Call me what you will but I get to enjoy things and you don't

>>212179482
A coprophage would say the exact same thing
Liking shit is not enjoying. It's having no standards

>>212179137
Post didn't make any statement over WOKE being bad or good, thats all in your head.

Studios have so much WOKE stuff put in their films because activating people who get overly animated about something that is mainly just a shallow marketing tool is a quick, cheep way to get a film noticed on the internet. The trick is not to overdo it or show the WOKE bit too early, else it will be too big a snowball by the time the film comes out, which is the mistake Indiana Jones 5 made, when it put the one WOKE joke in the whole film in its first trailer.

Avatar 3 will break 2 billies again and again pseuds and marvel drones will be in denial for months, no other pseuds and marvel drones talked about it after all so how could it happen?

>>212179623
You're missing out and you're upset

>>212177371
>Prometheus, The Irishman, Cosmopolis, etc.
Now let's not lie too much, alright? Avatars are still magnitudes better movies than those you mentioned.
In fact Avatars are still better than everything directors considered the best (Nolan, Villeneuve) nowadays made.
It's just that early Cameron made literally incomparable masterpieces. That's why you feel like he got worse. He did, but it's not "From 10/10 to 4/10" case you are trying to portray it as, but "From 11/10 to 9/10" one.

>>212179670
>Avatars are still magnitudes better movies than those you mentioned.
I'd rather watch something shamelessly megaschizo, laughable, and sui generis like Megalopolis over Avatar anyday.
>In fact Avatars are still better than everything directors considered the best (Nolan, Villeneuve) nowadays made.
Holy Indian

>>212179662
You are upset that your shit movie is called shit

>>212179640
FOMO shit. it will still be bad and will veave no memory of itself

>>212179637
WOKE = objectively bad
The opposite of woke is normality.
Having few woke in a movie is like having few pieces of shit in your plate
Everyone normal rejects it

>>212179809
Don't worry anon, I'm sure A4 will be the one to finally flop and prove you right

>>212179792
Where does this fixation on fecal matter come from?

Avatar movies are basically like theme park rides.

>>212179905
The Avatar ride is much better than the films.

People care enough that they'll go to see the next one, like they did the first two, and they'll enjoy it, and then go home.

>>212179419
People simply cannot cope with these movies being massive successes. Love to see it.

>>212179944
Nigga looks like an FFX character

>>212179809
Gibberish

The last hour of Avatar 2 is incredible, Cameron made Titanic 2 it was insane.

>>212179900
I don't expect high budget bukkakes to flop in current era of dead critical thinking, anon.
I'm just saying that a bad movie is bad

>>212179943
>People care enough that they'll go to see the next one, like they did the first two, and they'll enjoy being part of the event, and then go home and forget about it and never go back to it.

>>212179944
>it made money
You cannot cope with it being bad, lmao

>>212179943
And that's completely ok.

>>212180056
You're still making up additional contrived parameters just trying to "sound bad".

>>212180056
>and never go back to it
With box office like this, they probably went to see it multiple times

>>212175914
Uh, Shot Caller?

>>212180069
Bad movies don't make 2 billion dollars.
And no, the McDonalds allegory you were thinking of posting now doesn't work.

Avatar 2 made me realize I have no clue about what actually makes money, I was sure it was going to tank because who gives a shit about Avatar?

>>212180242
Apparently most people who bother going to the theater

>>212175575 (OP)
/tv/ is literally the only place I've even seen the avatar movies mentioned. I saw the first movie when it came out and can't remember a thing from it.

>>212175575 (OP)
The first one is boring and the second one is just short repeating loops of the first.

>>212175575 (OP)
They do. The new one is already set to make two billies this winter. It's the only good movie worth seeing in theaters in the last two years kek.