Picrel. It insists upon itself.

>>212188625 (OP)
Fair assessment. I think it's less up it's own ass than Knives Out.

>>212188625 (OP)
>>212188686
It struck a nerve, huh?

>>212188760
>Margot: You know what I'd really like?
>Chef Slowik: Tell me.
>Margot: A cheeseburger.
>Chef Slowik: [the look in his eyes changes, and he even manages a smile] >We could do a cheeseburger.
>Margot: A real cheeseburger. Not some fancy, deconstructed, affluent bullshit, a *real* cheeseburger.
>Chef Slowik: I'll make you a very good, very traditional cheeseburger.
>Margot: I don't think you can.
>Chef Slowik: I'll make you feel as if you're eating the first cheeseburger you ever ate. The cheap one your parents could barely afford.
>Margot: Show me.
>Chef Slowik: How do you like it?
>Margot: Medium, American cheese.
>Chef Slowik: American cheese is the best cheese for a cheeseburger because it melts without splitting.
>Margot: How much will that set me back?
>Chef Slowik: $9.95.
>Margot: That come with fries?
>Chef Slowik: Neils?
>Chef: Yes, chef?
>Chef Slowik: Is the fryer still on?
>Chef: Yes, chef.
>Chef Slowik: Crinkle-cut, or julienne?
You couldn’t make this dialogue more reddit if you tried.

>>212188760
I doubt anybody here is a food critic outside of making fun of ja/ck/

>>212188934
Imagine being a food critic. Probably even lower form of critic being a than video game critic

>You have to die because... because I hated the movie you starred in!!!!!

>>212188625 (OP)
simpsons did it

>>212188920
I hate shit like this. It's like these people have never spoken to another person before.

>>212188625 (OP)
Everyone in this movie was a massive piece of shit but somehow the prostitute that banged the husband of one of the other shitty people gets a free pass because she asked Ralph Fiennes for a cheeseburger?

What a dogshit fucking movie, 1/10 and I want my two hours back

>>212188978
At least most video game critics enjoy video games. Food critics only exist to advertise their patron real estate developer's latest trendy bullshit. Their whole shtick is trying to be clever and dunking on everyone else instead of communicating anything useful.

>>212188987
>Where did you go to school?
>Brown.
>Student loans?
>No.
>Sorry, you're dying.
Yes. Now face the wall.

>>212188625 (OP)
I thought it was fine, at least an original story with good actors.

Infinitely better than the real Reddit kitchen slop the Bear.

>>212189511
What does a civvie like you know about the kitchen? You haven’t been in the trenches like I have.

>>212189511
You’ll address your commanding officer >>212189830 as Sir, private. ABOUT FACE SOLDIER!

>>212189069
>It's like these people have never spoken to another person before.
it's art retard, do you hate shakespeare for the same reason?

>>212188686
not really a high bar

>>212188625 (OP)
This movie is based, pretty sure reddit hates it

>>212190282
We aren't in Victorian England or in a play. Who talks like this in real life? Nobody. I talk to people all the time and our conversations don't consist of """""""witty"""""" banter and reddit dialogue like this. Get a fucking grip and touch grass.

>>212190282
>Villain, I have done thy mother.
Shakespeare has kino dialogue though

>>212188625 (OP)
This movie shits on redditors. Chef's Table is the worst show I've ever seen. Absurdly pretentious, and the fans of it are too. The menu lampoons them. People who watch fine dining shows, memorize facts, but can't cook for shit. They're just like Tyler and deserve to die.

>>212188934
The movie was not about food THO

>>212190543
>People who watch fine dining shows, memorize facts, but can't cook for shit
>You can't critique of have any genuine passion for any hobby or medium unless your skill matches the people you idolise
Very 'ivory tower' outlook.

>>212190543
It has the same pretentious snark it tries to criticize. More, even. And it tries to be self aware (the chef is a hypocrite on purpose and not supposed to be sympathetic), but it does it as reddit as humanly possible.

>>212190693
>critiques others when their skill doesnt even get on par with theirs
You get NO say whatsoever. Take cooking. If you can't cook worth a damn what makes you think you have any insights into it or any opinion of any value to offer? If you did then you'd be at least as good. If you lack a skill you do not get to criticize anyone else because your opinion means shit. Just shut your reddit mouth and fuck off back to something you are better at doing. Like eating crayons.

This one exposed so many anons on the board as Redditors.

>>212190798
>You get NO say whatsoever. Take cooking. If you can't cook worth a damn what makes you think you have any insights into it or any opinion of any value to offer?
You regurgitated what I just said. How does this not apply to everything then?
This is literally "how can you critique a movie if you never directed one?" What are you doing on this board, you hypocrite? Except screaming "LEEEEDDIT" at anyone who disagrees with you, of course?
Again, no one is allowed to be passionate about a hobby if they are not the most skilled authority in it? Do you realize how both uppity and autistic you sound?

>>212190798
>

>>212188625 (OP)
Anya is only in kino so that can't be true

>>212190693
I didn't say the skill has to match, don't strawman me. But you should have some kind of skill for the thing if you're so passionate about it. The meal Tyler made wasn't just amateurish, it was inedible. Yet his whole life revolves around food. That's the joke.

>>212190730
I really didn't get any reddit snark from it. Is it reddit because the chef is such an ass, like killing the actor because the movie he was in sucked?

>>212191015
It does apply to everything. I'm sorry if you're such a low value beta male that you lack a skill or competency in anything and thus would have nothing left to talk about. But then it's better you remain silent and let your superiors speak. If you did more listening to intelligent people instead of rattling off nonsense takes at a sloppy amateur level maybe you'd learn something and have an opinion of value to put forth.

>>212191161
>The meal Tyler made wasn't just amateurish, it was inedible
It was undercooked lamb and raw leek. It doesn't mean he has no skill whatsoever, especially since in the framing of the movie it is clearly stated that it is just not on par with the pretentious menu for completely arbitrary reasons compared to a plate of sauce.
So, again, he can't cook pretentious bullshit on the spot, so he isn't allowed to ever say anything ever on anything regarding cooking.
And don't get me wrong, Tyler is a pretentious midwit himself. But to say that his passion for cooking is not genuine is the most arrogant and elitist shit that the director tried to pass through.

>>212191270
Can I see movies you directed?

>>212189148
Because she wasn't part of it and she didn't care for the stupid art food. She was able to tap into the chef's brain when she understood he started off at the bottom and wasn't some fancy ass person just like her when she saw the framed image of him happy as burger flipper. That's why she asked for the cheeseburger cause it opened up a happy memory for him.

>>212190343
A film where everyone talked like they do in real life would probably double every films run time.

>>212188625 (OP)
i thought it was ok
>>212189148
i actually didn't think most of the people were particularly bad. like the worst were probably the three dudes who were actually committing crimes and the main dude tricking a prostitute into joining him on his retarded suicide.the rest of them are at worst kind of pricks but otherwise pretty banal
>>212189830
semper fry

I am a mega poorfag but these “eat the rich” movies just feel weird to me, partly because the people making them are obviously not poorfags themselves. It seems to be a mixture of upper middle class resentment of the upper class and some kind of masochistic guilt complex. It’s just creepy and inhuman. Soviet movies about peasants stringing up the bourgeoisie are much more sympathetic because that’s the result of desperation and relentless exploitation, rather than some creepy calculated sadism

>>212191130
she cut some meat out of her nose

>>212191480
I can agree that him not being able to whip up a fine dining meal on the spot doesn't mean that he doesn't have genuine passion. In fact, his passion is so genuine that he's willing to die for it. Of course he's allowed to discuss and criticize food. It's just funny that the shit meal is the best he could come up with, considering how passionate he is.

>>212191718
This is why I almost never watch any of this shit. It's millionaire elitist producers doing the "hello fellow poors, how do you do?". And a lot more of this media is being made, people are eating it up sadly.
I watched The Menu because of my insane vitriol for the show Chef's Table. There was a ep where a chef would go out to the forest and sniff for ripe leaves. Like cmon man. Truly a sickening experience watching that shit.

>>212191161
>it was inedible
No it wasn’t. Not up to the standards of haute cuisine, but the chef clearly hates that shit anyways.

>reddit snark
Each character is a caricature of people that interact with art. The obsessed fan, the elitist critic, the sellout actor, the techbro richfag, and the mindless consoomer. These people distort what the art “should” be and cause the artist to sperg the fuck out and kill everyone, including his cult-like followers. This is portrayed as tragic and sympathetic, when it’s actually fucking demented.
And then there’s Margot, who is a stand in for the enlightened reddit viewer. Unlike the other diners, the redditor consumes art in the correct, authentic way, and gets to live.

In other words the entire message is reddit snark because it’s preaching to a reddit choir. It jerks you off and tells you that (YOU) are the real(tm) connoisseur, unlike those fake fans that are ruining art.

>>212191130
>you will eat the eggs!!!!

>>212191718
Yeah I agree, "weird" is probably the best word for it. Like I'm supposed to feel these people deserve bad things happening to them purely because they're rich, even if they aren't actually doing anything nefarious in the film.

>>212188920
>so yeah basically we are this fancy restaurant on an island where we grow out own food and only stock the best ingredients
>yeah of course we have some American cheese in the fridge to build a sloppa burger

>>212192306
>Of course he's allowed to discuss and criticize food
No, no he isn't, according to the chief.
You see, obsessive autists who document and inquire into their chosen hobby have taken "le magic" out of said hobby. According to the director.
Every character in the movie is just a walking strawman for the director to finna dab and incinerate.
Yuppies who are just chasing trends and don't care about the art.
Critics who don't care about what happens to the object they are creating.
Politicians who only see value in how expensive art is, not in the art itself.
Tyler's "sin" is that he was sent the menu by the chief and then preemptively prepared himself to experience the menu in the most smug way possible just to seem smart to his idol. A pretentious midwit, who, if we were to draw a parallel, reads the plot of the movie before seeing it so that he can seem smart for predicting the events. Tyler is all that. But there is no way he would be willing to die for this if his autism and passion for cooking weren't genuine.
He is guilty of dissecting art but not being able to replicate it himself. Which, again, to draw a parallel to the art of the film, comes off as "you can't critique movies if you are not a director."

>>212193257
I liked how he killed the actor just because he made a shitty b movie once

>>212193280
To a pretentious artfag, a sellout is worse than almost anything else.

>>212193257
you're acting like ralph fiennes is a stand-in for the director and his character is beyond reproach when that's not true

his interaction at the end with ATJ reveals his self-loathing, the only character who is truly redeemed is ATJ who is supposed to be the everyman character by the end of the movie

>>212193774
He’s not portrayed as some righteous crusader, but there’s a sense that his hatred is a normal reaction taken too far. Like he just wanted to flip burgers and make people happy until these ebil strawmen ruined everything.

>>212193774
No, I don't think he is a stand in, but because the sermons are delivered by the chief there is no way to get around the fact that the indignation is in fact channeled through him.
>who is supposed to be the everyman character by the end of the movie
Which is also false and just another part of that hogwash.
That motherfuckers is pretending that he is a working class and nowhere near the elite he is about to set on fire.
How do you fellow shit shovelers said the world famous chief from his island populated by his loyal cult army.
I once worked in low end burger stall but now that I look at it from my ivory tower, this is where I was actually happy all along, with peasants. Sniff sniff. I mean I'd rather set myself on fire than go back to that job and lose the restaurant but it's the thought that counts.

>>212190798
are you autistic? you remind me of myself when i used to be way more autistic.