This movie is clearly Hollywood's biggest gamble of the 2020s. No other movie during this decade so far has had so much riding on it. If this movie fails, it will kill an entire newborn cinematic universe and finally end the era of capeshit's cinematic dominance. On the other hand, this movie failing could make Hollywood even more risk-averse than it already is.

I want it to make $1 billion so every Snyder cultist kills themselves.

>>212192051
This, would be glorious

>>212192015 (OP)
>had so much riding on it.
I'm riding your mom

All actual reactions and reviews reveal this movie's gambit: it's WAY too kiddy/fluffy for a mainstream blockbuster. It's alienating to anyone over 15 years old and that's going to cripple it. In classic reactionary WB fashion, they made a movie that's comically opposing to the typical DC movie (dark, gritty, artistic) and have made a film that's even more fucking sloppy and insufferably childish than stuff like Ant-Man. It's going to land like a thud. BIG opening weekend (maybe even touching 200) but then a HUGE drop as people realize this.

>>212192051
Based, kill snydernazis. Glory to gunnjeets!

I will now watch your movie.

>>212192159
>typical DC movie ( dark, gritty, artistic )
you mean the movies everyone hated

The only thing saving it from potentially being one of the biggest flops in film history is pajeets and that should tell you everything you need to know. Even blacks don't give a shit and black people love Superman.

>>212192051
I don’t think it will make a billion. No Superman movie has. Also got a got competition for same demo. I think at best it will make The Batman type numbers, 790 million. But that would be a success especially if it doesn’t tank its second weekend

Today is Opposite Day and adapting a successful existing property at a time when a dozen superhero movies come out a year is considered a risk

You had to use the word clearly because you don't believe in it

>>212192159
> It's alienating to anyone over 15 years old
Superman was never for grown men

>>212192159
Are you a moron? Family and kid friendly movies are ones making money! Biggest movies this year is Minecraft and Lilo & Stitch. Biggest movie last year was Inside Out 2

>>212192196
Depends if you're talking Snyder or everything else. Watchmen, Constantine and Joker and the Nolan movies are still the most prestige comic book movies out there and very revered (even with Joker's sequel in mind). I wouldn't even call Snyder's movies dark and artistic. They were just bullshit. MoS and most of BvS before the rewrites/reshoots were Nolan's stuff.

>>212192300
>Family and kid friendly movies
>joke about Superman's alien penis

>>212192196
The Dark Knight is still one of the most highly regarded and successful films of all time. People STILL praise every single aspect of it to this day and it's widely considered the best Batman movie and one of the best superhero movies of all time. It's an established gold standard not just for superhero movies, but movies in general.

>>212192278
Superman is for manchildren.

>>212192300
Superhero movies aren't the same as kid friendly fare like that. They occupy the perfect space of teens and young adults. That's where they make their money from. If a kid under 15 wants to watch something, he won't watch this. At most, he'll just buy a toy or two and that's that.
>>212192278
Superhero comics are for teens and young adults. Not fucking infants.

>>212192307
>Watchmen
bombed, didn't do well critically or financially
>Constantine
is from 20 years ago and wasn't some smash hit either it just did okay. I doubt most people even know it's DC if they remember it at all
>Nolan movies
Actually did do amazing, but at this point I think it's more attributed to Nolan than DC
>Joker
completely tarnished by the 2nd one at this point

>>212192334
The Batman was a piece of crap in DC's standards but it was still critically lauded beyond anything Marvel could muster in their wildest dreams just because it was a standalone Batman movie. A Joker movie made for 50mil made as much as Captain Marvel, a MCU tenptole, back in 2019. DC could win the game if only they stopped playing by Marvel's rules.

>>212192015 (OP)
did they change his suit?

If this post ends in repeating numbers, Gunn's Superman film will make a billion dollars.

>>212192386
they tried that, most of their epic dark and gritty moves were total bombs due to Snyder, and some dark and gritty stuff only works for certain stuff. Batman people accept as being dark. Superman not so much. In fact, it really only worked for Batman and Batman characters at all.

>>212192350
>Watchmen
It didn't do good at the time but has since had a huge reappraisal and is a diamond in DC's library.
>Constantine
This is actually a huge cult hit, even if most don't know it's DC (which they do but whatever) and had a 4K 20th anniversary release a few months ago that was a big chart topper
>Nolan movies
Goes without saying
>Joker
The second movie being a bomb of epic proportions doesn't undo the first movie from existence. Plus, clearly, WB/DC are still trying to ape it with that new Clayface movie.

You are a delusional moron if you think Superman matters and is important. Its Capeslop. That is it nothing more. Capeshit fatigue and cinematic universes are not cool anymore so it will flop. The new thing that will take over will be video game films like Minecraft now. Legend of Zelda will be the billion dollar movie that will kill capeshit once and for all.

>>212192345
Kids like superhero movies but have been alienated by cape shit catering to man children after the Dark Knights success. Lego Batman was huge with kids and so was Teen Titans. Man children got cape shit fatigue at this point so it was a smart move to pivot to kids and family friendly. Whether Gun pulls it off captivating them is another question

>>212192426
An operatic, grandiose, "serious" Superman can work just fine as comics have proved, it's just that Snyder is a fucking imbecile and someone without a creative or intelligient bone in his body. Most of MoS's greatness was due to Nolan. They pretty much copied Nolan well into BvS. JL is Snyder unleashed and that movie is a fucking embarrassment to DC.

>>212192494
>it didn't do good at the time
that's the only time it matters, and this "huge reappraisal" is mostly just a cult following if anything. it's not a hit at all and a bunch of people hate it just as much as those that love it.
>Constantine
it's not "a huge cult hit". The Thing is a huge cult hit. Constantine is just an okay one, and it's still divisive because it's so far from the source material it may as well not even be called Constantine.
>Joker
Yeah but it equals it out. If you want to say "people prefer le artsy and gritty movies from DC" and point to Joker, the counterexample is Joker 2. Besides, it only works with Batman/Batman characters not Superman.

>>212192527
Animated movies specifically and explicitly made to corner the kid's market. That doesn't prove any point you're trying to make. Live-action movies and 98 percent of comics are made for teens and YA and adults.

>>212192600
Okay, maybe not dark and gritty but STANDALONE. That's where DC thrives. Marvel's only gimmick is the universe schtick. DC's best and most beloved stories that are of any note are always standalone adventures. It's hilarious seeing Gunn point to them as inspirations for building out a cinematic universe when those stories work for the opposite intent.

i dont know whats the best outcome, that both this and fantastic four flop, or superman somehow is a hit

>>212192688
Standalone maybe, it's hard to say since Snyder was in charge of all the team up movies and he botched them hardcore. The most successful movies DC had were Aquaman and Wonder Woman which are sort of standalone in that they don't have cameos but also are part of the shared universe.

>>212192626
And that demo is burned out of caprshit. There no doubt this movie is trying to get kid and family demo.

>kid and family demo
>there are confirmed sex and penis jokes and also a gay character who says he wants to be fucked by superman and says other gay shit
i guess for 2025 this is totally normal

>>212192747
>>212192600
most successful in the 2010s I mean. Obviously TDK is the most successful movie they've -ever- had.

BvS actually had a better opening weekend though. If it wasn't complete dogshit it wouldn't have fallen off a cliff its 2nd weekend so I think there's definitely interest in team-up slop so long as it's not unwatchable.

>>212192747
Aquaman and Wonder Woman are great examples. They did so well because of the lack of connective tissue. I mean Aquaman completely contradicts JL in some key plot points and castings

>>212192802
minecraft had gay sex jokes, normal sex jokes and jokes about men's asses

>>212192768
which is who a superman movie should be aimed at, not grimdark retarded shit like the snyder films

>>212192802
Confirmed by who? Only a select few critics and influencers have seen only first 30 minutes.

>>212192768
>DC's last hail mary is "SEE THAT DOG? ISN'T HE SO CUTE PLEASE COME WATCH OUR MOVIE ABOUT SUPERMAN BECAUSE OF HIS DOG"
This kind of embarassing death couldn't have happened to a more deserving company.

>>212192015 (OP)
I completely forgot about this movie even a day after the horrendous reddit clips came out.

>>212192839
I mean sure but I think this is a bit results based. They did well because they were crowd pleasing movies, which I don't think is due to a lack of connective tissue but because they were decent. Batman v. Superman had a monstrous, record-setting opening weekend. I'm pretty sure it's the best WB has ever had aside from maybe the Harry Potter finale and that was a movie entirely marketed on being cameo shared universe stuff.

The problem is that it was fucking garbage, so it didn't have any legs when word got out. It's almost incredible how badly it fell off, it's like every person told their friend it was bad and not to see it.

>>212192869
A Twitter moron who reveals the gay sex jokes bit because he's proud to be represented in the movie or some other insane shit.

>>212192857
Totally agree. I’m taking my nephews to see it. They normally don’t give a shit about superhero movies

>>212192051
What if I want snyderjeets and gunnfags to kill each other? What would the magical balancing number had to be?

>>212192920
He’s full of shit. They haven’t fully screened it to critics yet and test audiences had to sign non disclosure agreements

>>212192972
HIgh 600s to low 800s.

Not a flop, not a massive hit.

>>212192768
my nephew and his friends unironically asked to see the superdog movie after I took them to see minecraft so I think it might be working

No one gives a shit about capeshit anymore and shared universe shit ran its course years ago.

>>212192015 (OP)
I reckon it'll make 500 million dollars

>>212192909
BvS's drop never made any sense to me. I went and saw it twice in a two week space and audiences were all in on it. Great reactions each time and well within its run. How did it have such a huge drop-off? That always felt weird to me. Movie was still getting huge pop in a stacked theater two weeks after release.
>>212192978
People on Twitter don't actually adhere to those NDA's or they just leak stuff through third parties which WB has no way of figuring it out.

>>212192514
The mario movie was fucking terrible so I have zero hope for zelda being any good.

The only number it needs for the DCU to keep going is anything more than 500 million. just a hundred or two hundred million more than its budget than WB, who's already way too deep into this new Gunnuniverse as it is, can parade it as a huge success and then go on with business as usual. Sunk cost fallacy is real.

>>212192426

If Gunn's Superman film fails at the box office, WB/DC will probably stick to just Batman films for the next 20 years.

>>212192839
they did well because people want fun action adventure out of their capeshit. not droning for 2 hours about vague philosophy in political courtroom meetings for a final fight that lasts 5 minutes. the only movies that do well with being dark grimdark shit are Batman(Joker is basically a Batman movie too) since everyone has come to expect that of him. nobody wants to see a superman movie about him being boring, they want to see movies similar in tone to Aquaman.

>>212193118
I can agree on BvS for sure but MoS was a winner (probably because it was a Nolan movie in all but name) and it had great theater reception at the time. Internet discourse didn't matter back then. It delivered on the action and the cinematic feel. I remember showings being stacked very deep into its run. But they did screw things up with BvS. I don't consider BvS canon to MoS. MoS was clearly a standalone trilogy in the Nolan vein with references to it being set in the TDK universe but not for the purposes of a crossover.

>>212193076
Because it was kind of dull and not all that crowd pleasing. Compare it to Civil War, which I also didn't like, but that movie has a bunch of action and is much quicker paced and also isn't as heavy with random monologues about the nature of God and power. Also it had like a 30% rotten tomatoes score, so anybody who was on the fence about seeing it immediately decided not to upon seeing that. Personally I saw it with my friends and we all left disappointed, I remember the audience laughing during the Martha scene and at the end when Lex has his face pressed against the bars and is going "DING DING DING DING DING" while snot pours out of his nose

I think its going to bomb, mystified as to why people think this will make a billion.
>snyderfag
Those movies were shit too. DC should stick to animated movies.

>>212193183
MoS also had a steep 2nd weekend falloff. Not as bad as BvS because nothing is but still bad. It was also kind of slow at points and not a huge crowd pleasing movie, but it was certainly better received than BvS.

>>212193094

They already failed right out of the gate with the upcoming Zelda movie by making it live-action. It should have been animated. Fucking Hollywood can't do anything right nowadays.

>now that no one cares about superhero movies let's do a hard reset and introduce audiences to the third cinematic superhero universe
Even if it's a great movie no one is going to care. It's too late to do Marvel numbers, even Marvel can no longer do Marvel numbers. DC had their shot over a decade ago and they blew it, time to let it go and find the next fad.

>>212193232
Animated movies and standalone films where an auteur director has an idea about a DC property and is given full free reign to do it, like George Miller with JL: Mortal. I'm still assblasted that movie never got made. Genuinely sad.

>>212193277
This movie's existence is embarrassing, honestly. Gunn/WB/DC are so out of touch with reality they think it's 2019/2020 or something. This will bomb/flop and all heads will roll for thinking it's still 2019 and not 2025.

>>212193076
I just don’t buy it. Gunn never put gay shit into his movies and I really doubt he would for. Superman movie or WB would even allow it when wants to bigger demo possible

>>212193277

If DC's second cinematic universe somehow does even worse than their first cinematic universe, it will be a historic failure. Exciting days ahead.

>>212193183
MoS was like War of the Worlds when general audiences wanted Independence Day. Too grey, too much of Superman brooding and finding himself and Clark himself is boring as fuck and has no personality.

>>212192051
it will make less than the suicide squad

>>212193383
The only source I've seen for the "gay shit" line is from a "leaker" posting here a couple days ago. But that faggot was completely fake because when asked to name specific gags in the movie he couldn't come up with anything and claimed he forgot them all (a movie he saw yesterday) and then stopped responding. Also new info has since contradicted him anyway.

>>212193277
The biggest thing that keeps me from caring about this movie is all the ancillary superhero characters.
BvS was already "rushing the Justice League" with Flash and Aquaman cameos and forced WW in the final fight, I assume this will be that x10

>>212193474
eh that's the one thing i'm not concerned about since all the superheros they're using are Z-listers so they come off more as supporting characters to make Superman look good. whereas BvS was trying to introduce the main Justice League roster.

>>212193383
Gunn is just as pozzed/demented as any Hollypedo weirdo. He thinks gays are normal and should totally be in a kid's movie, just like any Pedowood idiot. A Buzz Lightyear movie had two ugly dykes kissing. These people are beyond insane, dude. It's actually disturbing but don't think too hard about it. Nothing you can do about them.
>>212193422
Not wrong there but I still think it was pretty well received at the time. Even so, Cavill is still beloved and/or recognized as Superman by the vast majority of the populace while this guy will come and go. Cavill was Superman for a good 10 years. Longer than anyone. He sticks in the public consciousness. This new guy is as dull as dishwater.

>>212193514
>Green Lantern and Hawkgirl
>Z listers
Most recognizable secondaries from the cartoon

>>212193471
It's true though. Same guy who went all "YAAAS kween there's a gay character in Superman I FEEL SO SEEN" said a bunch of shit that lines up with stuff spoiled in TV spots and corroborated by others who were present at the screenings.

>>212193571
Guy Gardner is not the main Green Lantern. Nobody outside of nerds knows who the fuck he is. The cartoon used Stewart, who is in the Lanshow not in this.
>hawk girl
Complete Z-lister. It's not even the same one from the JL animated show.

>>212192051
>>212192098
>>212192196
Soibois calling pajeets to anybody that doesn't like Gunnslop, the irony.

>>212193573
link it then

Worst case scenario (hell timeline):
>This movie does over a billion and Gunn has complete and TOTAL dominion over DC for YEARS
this would be a complete nightmare for any REAL DC fan
Best case scenario:
>Movie flops or does middling numbers; Zazlav and WB panic and quickly phase Gunn out, dissolve DC Studios in a year or so, dump Supergirl on streaming (or can it like Batgirl) and they focus on Batreeves and other standalone projects (probably rebooting Superman AGAIN by the end of this decade)
I HOPE TO GOD we're in the second timeline.

>>212192051
Gunfags are unhinged

>>212193606
>it's not the same character, just the iconic image of them!
Ryan Reynolds is Green Lantern to 90% of the audience

>>212193648
saw screenshots of it on /co/. don't use X because i'm not an NPC faggot.

>>212193606
Nta but you are splitting hairs. Mr terrific, gl, Maxwell Lord, bizarro. It's young superman. Cavill is a good actor but he really wasn't the best superman. The humor was missing virtually had none. He was too cool as well. The best I've seen would be the guy from superman and Lois. That guy nailed superman down.

>>212193639
Not one person you replied to even referenced India.

>>212193537
obviously they recognize the guy who has played Superman in movies more than the guy whos movie isn't out yet. Before Cavill everybody said Reeve was their Superman ( a lot still do ).

>Cavill was Superman for a good 10 years. Longer than anyone.
Smallvile guy was Superman for longer I believe and Reeve had more movies.

>>212193719
>guy from superman & lois
He was very good. All of the CW shows were, honest to God, very enjoyable even at their worst and most pozzed and were a far more respectable showcase of DC comics on live-action than ANY of the movies ever made thus far..even with all of their retconning and pozz. at least there was a great balance between comic booky fare and drama/comedy.

>>212193694
>the iconic image
they don't even look similar, and Hawkgirl was everyone's least favorite character from that show. She's not even on the team for half of it.

This is all you need.

>>212192334
smoked a joint and rewatched the dark knight the other day. absolute kino. we may never get a capeshit movie like it ever again bros…

>>212192159
The Superman movie looks like Gunn is throwing all kinds of shit against the wall to see what sticks. Every 20 minutes a completely different disconnected scene. If the audience likes one, turn it into a movie.

>>212193879
Originally, it was literally that: The Movie. It had an anthology day-of-the-week Tom and Jerry type structure where each day (20-30 minute acts) where it was just anohter of Lex's plots to destroy Superman. It was INSANE. Then WB got the good sense to turn it into a regular movie and not a cosplay cartoon. but that won't save it cause it's still the same shitty movie.

>>212193769
I really understood who Kal El/Clark/superman were. I think the new guy David seems to understand. Gunn seems to get it. As long as it's not thor love and thunder quippy it will work out. I thought Snyder and Cavill did great work but it's a different era of kids they were playing to. It's just the character is. Reeves, dean, Cavill, superman and Lois guy now David all have their audiences. So far the closest to the source material was superman and lous but this could be very close. I'm seeing all star superman, some kingdom come in it.

>>212193976
Boy are you gullible

They are pulling out all the stops in adverting. Literally every bus , bus stop , billboard o see the picture. The fucking problem is it's a hot summer. People are staying in doors or heading off to the beach

>>212194077
I'M TIRED OF SEEING THAT FUCKING FAGGOT DOG EVERYWHERE I GO

>>212193976
Also superman for all seasons
Gunn pulled some panels right out of it
It's 1998.
DC lets their teams do avante gard work. It's the opposite of marvel. They get eccentric
They have the I guess oldest characters but push the envelope. Marvel is the opposite

>>212193944
>but that won't save it cause it's still the same shitty movie
Yeah, it didn't really change. Gunn has specific scenes in mind and just skipped making them coherent at all.

>Ohh, Superman is technically an illegal immigrant!
>Ohh, let's have him end a war with brown people
>Ohh, let's make Louis have a tough interview with him!
>Ohh, let's put Green Lantern in it
>Ohh, let's put another group in there
>Ohh, his ice fortress
>Ohh, Lex Luthor does creepy sexting because I'm James Gunn and I'm a creep too!

>>212194077
It's a hail mary for a DCU reboot that hasn't even started yet.

>>212194098
WB thinks it's the new grogu.

>>212194119
this is something I kind of noticed about DC i did appreciate even during the DCEU all their movies, for better or worse, felt very different. WW feels nothing like Aquaman which feels nothing like BvS which feels nothing like Shazam. Marvel movies all feel the same. hoping that continues

>>212194056
I know what I'm talking about see. Did you recognize this
>>212194119


I wonder why you didn't. You seem to know so much about the material. Hmm

>>212194180
I think they will. Gunn will have things like Batman 2 running and other things and he can play with his Omniverse. That's how dc is. Marvel is going to convergence to recast the entire MCU.

>>212194196
>LOOK GOY-I MEAN GUYS GUNN UNDERSTANDS SUPERMAN AND DC COMICS SO PERFECTLY
>does another rip-off MCU instead of making sure DC is a standalone movie factory as DC is meant to be
FUCK right off and end your life, you despicable lying shill

>>212194310
I have no idea what you actually trying to say lol

>>212194268
Gunn will axe and reboot Batman. Gunn hates everything not Gunn. Gunn wants total control.

>>212194369
Gunn is hopefully going to be in deep shit when this movie fails.

>>212194310
Is this even English?

>>212194363
Because you're a mindless NPC shill, you fucking secondary idiot. If he understands DC so much, why is he trying to turn DC into the MCU AGAIN and not making DC into what it was for most of its cinematic history: a standalone movie factory in which ideas and characters shined on their own? Why is he adding MCU lines to SUperman's suit? Why is he making him talk like Star-Lord? Commit suicide and fucking die. Now.

>>212194180
>hoping that continues
You know it won’t. Everything is getting filtered through Gunn personal opinion. Nothing “elseworlds” has been greenlit because Gunn already stated he wants to unite every medium under the DCU. The Batman 2 is reluctantly getting made. In reality they aren’t going to have 2 Batmen at the same time.

>>212194369
Gunn only took the job if he could share power with his partner lol

>>212194268
I'm hopeful since he greenlit a low budget Clayface movie. Also I'm more excited for Supergirl than Superman desu, I think she's a more interesting character.

>>212194310
You just have to say you read All-Star and like Smallville and people will worship. The product itself doesn’t really matter.

>>212194363
>>212194407
his post is perfectly comprehensible lol what just say you're some samefagging gunbot at this point

>>212194407
He's esl.
The brown shits out themselves by asking a series of passive aggressive questions as a way of arguing.

>>212194390
There's no way this movie makes it's money back. Superman just isn't cool.

>>212194436
Clayface is an Elseworlds project that was in development before him and he took it and made it DCU which pissed Mike Flanagan off.
>i think she's a more interesting character
trans, btw?

>>212192051
>LITERALLY the first post of the thread
>"REEEEEEE SNYDER"
Holy obsessed

>>212194436
I think he wants to have a lot of different genres going on. So gritty, animated, superman etc stuff is his aim. He knows the market it is oversaturated in some parts

>>212194480
>lol he's ESL
>the brown shits out themselves
End your life, brownoid fucker.

>>212194539
yeah that's a smart move. plus if clayface bombs it's not that expensive of a project so it lets them branch out without it being a huge risk.

He is raging for some reason. Kind of funny. He really seems to hate white people.

>>212194507
I am hoping its a major wake up call. Such a bizarre thing to bet so heavily on, and it isn't even just a Superman movie, the ensemble shit makes me think they were afraid of banking just on him, or that those characters were too shitty to stand on their own and need to piggy back off Superman.

>>212194576
The Batman two script is out and it's been green lit. He casts a really good supergirl then picked a good origin comic for her. We will see

>>212194593
>vagueposting
You need to go back.

>>212194604
>it isn't even just a Superman movie, the ensemble shit makes me think they were afraid of banking just on him
Like I said, Gunn is throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.

Also WB has no patience with starting small.


>>212194636
>He casts a really good supergirl
That retarded looking flat chested girl?

>>212194636
yeah that's why I'm looking forward to Supergirl. Always preferred her over Superman since she remembers Krypton and actually feels like an outsider on Earth since she wasn't raised there like Clark and that comic really emphasizes that backstory.

Can any of you guys answer me why is James GUnn plastering his face all over this movie as if 99 percent of people know who the fuck he is and much less care even if they would? Beyond terminally online CBM fans, no one in the general populace knows who the fuck he is and yet
>a James Gunn film
>he's in all the press interview junkets next to the MAIN STARS of which there are only the main three and none of the others are doing anything
>he's front and center in every event
Is he really this egotistical and out of touch with reality beyond his social sphere?

>>212192051
I wasn't even going to watch it. There's quite a few details about this movie that don't sit well with me: the suit (particularly the collar and the choice for the 'S'), Luthor doesn't sound like Clancy Brown, there's too many nods in the marketing to the Donner/Reeve movie, wasn't sure about including Krypto (I come around to it since. Untrained, disobedient Krypto is the way to go).

BUT the smear campaing by Snyderists online, made me change my mind. I'll be there opening day.

>>212194775
he's the director, writer and co-ceo of the studio is probably why

>>212194710
Superman as a protagonist just doesn't work. He's basically a god. The only interesting thing you can do with him is letting him die.

>>212194775
>Is he really this egotistical
Yes. It's also why he axes everything not Gunn at DC.

>>212194797
>Clancy Brown
this nigga doesn't get enough credit he's as definitive as Conroy or Hamil in my mind

>>212194819
Doesn't matter. Most of the populace doesn't care or know that and wouldn't feel anything seeing this who the fuck is that?-tier guy trying to promote this movie.

>>212194854
Nah, Death of Superman is a shit story and only memorable for shock value. i do kind of agree that he works better as a supporting character though, the guy that shows up when shit gets real.

>>212194710
The other anon is completely enraged

>>212193514
It's the right move, imo. This is a Superman movie. Hawkgirl, Metamorpho, Mr. Terrific and Guy Gardner are part of the supporting cast, and should not get much screentime. Can't introduce big names like Wonder Woman, Flash or Batman as background characters.

New leaked press review from Superman came out. It's not looking good Superbros...

>>212192015 (OP)
How is Superman a risk kek?

>>212194913
he's like a monkey smearing shit on the wall I'm just ignoring him

>>212194895
Sure his death is lame, but what choice does a DCU have? It's always "Where's Superman?" and him being Superman would mean he could be everywhere.

>>212192015 (OP)
>If this movie fails, it will kill an entire newborn cinematic universe and finally end the era of capeshit's cinematic dominance. On the other hand, this movie failing could make Hollywood even more risk-averse than it already is.
ESL speakers shouldn't make threads

>>212194958
What set him off

>>212194998
marvelfag, snyderjeet or just autistic contrarian who cares

>>212195038
Yeah. Nice talking to you I'm heading. Got to eat.

>>212195076
same headed to the gym. have a good one super bro

>>212193232
>I think its going to bomb, mystified as to why people think this will make a billion.
because it's got almost no competition. They lucked the fuck out

>>212193639
>calling pajeets to anybody
Good morning sir!

>>212195182
it launches between jurassic park and fantastic four

>>212192972
>What would the magical balancing number had to be?
GOOD MORNING

>>212192334
You're on crack, anon. People have shit talked the Dark Knight and Nolan in general from day one just as much as he's been propped up. Only one film since TDK has commit mimicry, and even then it was mostly inspired by Se7en and BTAS

>>212192015 (OP)

>>212195504
You used the wrong shot, you fucking retard. It's the same scene and you didn't even try to get the shot. God how are you guys always lowering the bar

>>212192386
>The Batman was a piece of crap in DC's standards
What? How is it crap by DC's standards? They were on a streak of critical failures stretching all the way back to BvS when The Batman released. If anything, it was above the standard DC had built for themselves by that point.

>>212195544
They're from India.

>>212192386
they made joker 2 adapting the fourth fall out boy album while including none of the songs and it bombed

>>212192051
The snyderfags have a point. It really does look worse than The Man of Steel. But everyone who says this gets labeled as an Indian.

>>212195849
That explains all the raging on reddit and YouTube their "trailers" keep getting taken down

>>212193819
>Best clark
>Best lex
>Best lois
>Best jonathan kent
How did they do it?

>>212196013
By being made in the 2000's, the last good time to be alive in.

>>212194957

They are making him a wimpy weak manlet. I wouldn´t call it a risk though, Hollywood´s done that to death for the past 10 years.

>>212195912
it doesn’t really desu. I mean in terms of trailer sure, Man of Steel has an amazing trailer.

The actual movie is ugly as sin though. So desaturated at points it may as well be black and white, constant shaky cam and claustrophobic close ups and Metropolis just looks like a generic city.

It only looks good in still images for a few shots Im convinced Snyder made it to make cool wallpapers but the scenes in motion are awful.

>>212196013
Lois in smallville was a ho come on lol

>>212192015 (OP)
As long as it does good enough for Synderjeets to seethe in their poo ridden dens

>>212192015 (OP)
Capeshit is never a gamble, it's cinema made by accountants.

>>212192015 (OP)

>>212196041
sure it's a risk. superman alone is a risk. emasculating him for a modern audience is a risk. making the movie about modern day politics is a risk.

>>212195544
So do it yourself

>>212192278
>It's alienating to anyone over 15 years old

A sailor reads a comic book aboard the USS Doran in 1942

>>212193277
Why did Warner Bros make so few dc movies in the 2000s after X men and Spider-man made a bunch of money?
nothing until Catwoman which is not even about Selina Kyle, Constantine which is not much like the comics
two Nolan batman movies
then boring superman returns that they gave full power to the X men pedophile to make after the development hell of superman lives and flyby

watchmen

and the cancelled miller justice league


Then in the 2010s there was one movie a year with Jonah Hex, Green Lanterm, The Dark Knight Rises, Man of steel, then nothing in 2014 and 2015

>>212193639
>calling pajeets to
Streetshitter detected

>>212196104
They are very upset in this thread. Enjoy!

>>212196083
Yeah every chick in that show was a ho,including lana. But she was the hottest and most charming version of her

>>212196192
NYPA

>>212196120
Only Silver Surfette is for sexo

>>212196139
>why won't anyone make something about how hard it is to be a man
>wtf not like that

>>212196497
>NYPA
Just admit you're too dumb to know how to edit some silly images.

>>212194426
Because that’s his style? The whole “MCU style” came from guys like Gunn not the other way around. We all know what Snyder’s style is, Nolan, Michael Bay, Tim Burton, etc

>>212192196

>>212196373
Even martha kent was a ho, she waited like a year after jonathan dies and got a boyfriend

>>212196575
Not really. Gunn's style is Slither/Super. This childish superhero shit is not too dissimilar but not exactly the same.

>>212196551
no one asked that for superman, james

Why is the movie so bright? It's like the cranked the exposition to max and then added too much saturation to compensate.

>>212196653
Make up your fucking minds. Too blue? Too green? Too warm? Too dark? Too bright? Pick one god damnit

>>212196780
why would i pick any of that? are you retarded? don't you have a movie to direct, james?

>>212196120
The first 2 on the left are completely different characters, the one in Superman is Kendra not Shayera. But yeah they still did a bad job adapting Kendra's costume.

>>212196924
>The first 2 on the left are completely different characters, the one in Superman is Kendra not Shayera. But yeah they still did a bad job adapting Kendra's costume.
That's even worse. Why would anyone choose the boring looking one instead of the iconic one?

>>212196063
>it doesn’t really desu.

>>212196991
If you find women built like a dude attractive it says a lot about you

>>212197272
I've never found Brie attractive.

>>212197272
>that body, muscular

Ask me how I know you are fat as fuck.

>>212194180
That wasn't a good thing for their bottom line though, it meant a cross over like avengers wouldn't work and that's what DC/WB wanted

>>212196991
Kendra's cool too, it doesn't really matter. Just give her a better costume and no one is going to care.

>>212198559
Kendra fucking sucks. She's known for being a convoluted as fuck character and cheating on Hawkman with Green Arrow's sidekick.

>>212198520
it worked fine. there was no issue with WW/Aquaman/Superman and Batman all being in the same movie despite the differing tones from their individual movies. The problem is the movie was just shit for other reasons.

>>212198657
It became a problem starting with Shazam because all the movies because action comedies copying the MCU.

>>212198706
shazam never even crossed over because the universe was basically dead by the time it came out and the first Shazam movie did pretty well. Their most successful movie was Aquaman which was a lighthearted action adventure.

>>212192173

>>212198743
The problem wasn't the cross-over, but the tone. They all started to become the same style.

>>212192051
Still Gunna flop, retard.

>>212198770
that's because the dark and gritty shit already failed and they tried to course correct but because their universe was already dead by that point and on top of that most of those movies weren't any good it didn't matter what tone they took they would've all flopped regardless.

It's crazy to me that this is a big deal. I understand superhero movies are big money, but I wouldn't know it existed if not for 4chan. I've never heard anyone talk about it irl and nobody is going to suggest we go see it

>>212198812
Sure, anon. Sure. It wasn't because they became the Diet version of the MCU, and why watch that when people already have the MCU?

>>212198746
>Iran Israel is a nothing burger already
Nothing ever happens, keep sign tapping though, fagggot

>>212198880
their movies were underperforming when they were dark and gritty too and again their best performing movie was Aquaman which was a colorful lighthearted action adventure

>>212198914

>>212192015 (OP)
>kill an entire newborn cinematic universe
Fuck cinematic universes and the people who use this terminology.
You've been mind captured by corporate interests

>>212198850
Pretty much. None of the July movies will make much of a big profit. F1 is going to have massive legs due to great word of mouth and adult appeal.

>>212198931
yes notice how Aquaman mogs all the others and it's completely different in tone from MoS and BvS

>>212193417
Third one. Green Lantern movie was a stillborn attempt at launching a DC cinematic universe greenlit solely because some WB exec thought Iron Man made all that money from all that Top Gun-esque Air Force shit and was told that Green Lantern was DC's resident Air Force adjacent superhero.

>>212198967
You forget Aquaman still feels like something out of Snyder's films, specially visually, and that the marketing was about how it respected Snyder's vision.

>>212198604
>cheating on Hawkman with Green Arrow's sidekick
I like her so she gets a pass

>>212192015 (OP)
This shit is gonna flop so hard the 2nd week

>>212198850
After Endgame people largely stopped giving a shit about superhero movies. The only discussion of this film is just Snyderfags and Gunnfags accusing each other of being Indian.

>>212198931
They underperformed, that's WB saying it not me. Joker Wonder Woman and Aquaman did well though.

>>212199664
WB President.

>>212192173
ngl she's hotter than that fat cunt from the acked universe

>>212199692
So then why the fuck all this heartache and bullshit? If they were so profitable, why the fuck have things gone down to this?

>>212199692
>jew tells a lie
A tale as old as time.

>>212199692
>very profitable
By how much?
What are the metrics?

>>212199692
>Coping
They obviously wanted to compete with Marvel, everyone knew it. Why bother denying it?

>>212196193
looks relly excited

>>212199733
Fuckery within WB. Same as now with Abdy/De Luca wanting one thing, Safran/Gunn another, and Reeves wanting an entirely different thing.
Back then there was a camp that was pro-Snyder, another that wanted to copy the MCU by hiring ex-MCU directors, another that just wanted to push movies out quickly because they knew the studio was being sold off and wanted their bonuses, and so on.

>>212196193
You forget:
>...back when comics were good
Today's capeshit is worthless & zoomers + alphas are more into manga these days.

>>212192015 (OP)
>gamble
Is not, we already know that is going to flop

Zack Sneeders adopted daughter killed the sneederverse. He would have finished the Justice League then made a sequel if she never roped. Fact.

>>212200203
Why did Sneeder's chink dyke "daughter" rope herself again?

>>212200067
Screencapped this so I can shove it in your face once it makes an easy billie in the next few weeks. The only one coping here is you. Get fucked.

>>212200203
BvS poisoned the well, it was probably too late anyways

>>212200293
I think he would have at least got a JL sequel maybe even a trilogy

>>212192015 (OP)
DOA, the future is AI slop, in glorious 1080p mobile

Gunn can't stand that Snyder is better than him.

>>212200247
Idk, stupid chink she was spoilt rotten anyway

>>212194933
>michael shannon

>>212195338
So it’s got no competition.

>>212192015 (OP)
it will flop

>>212192015 (OP)
OK, so you want me to pitty watch it? You just turned me off even more

>>212192159
>typical DC movie (dark, gritty, artistic)
*autistic

>>212196013
it was a different time

>>212192196
But Indians years after the DCEU flopped latched onto Snyder/Cavill, so actually everyone fucking loves it!

>>212203254
To be fair, Batman killed the fuck out of those aliens.

>>212192802
Little kids who watched South Park are in their 40s now with little kids of their own