Why do people praise this as an epic adventure on the same level as A New Hope?
Its mostly comedy and slice of life drama and when the conflict is introduced, the film is almost over
The only adventurous scene is when he tries to stop Lex' missiles
Its OK if you like it, but an outlandish adventure epic it is not

>>212209026 (OP)
No one compared it to a new hope

>>212209026 (OP)
It's dull and uninteresting. It has moments being a Superman movie but it's altogether meh.

You should be asking about raimi stealing it for spiderman 1 and 2

It's just a solid movie that's overhyped a lot by Boomers and Gen Xers
It's shot beautifully though thanks to 2001 cinematographer Geoffrey Unsworth and Donner not being talentless hacks like 99% of nu-Hollywood

2 is unironically a better film even with all the reshoots and BTS drama

>>212209026 (OP)
You had to be there.

>>212210481
Nolan as well, the narrative in Batman Begins is structured exactly like Superman with the younger Bruce slowly becoming the hero he is meant to be.

>>212209026 (OP)
Brown hands typed this

>>212210481
Raimi didn’t steal it. He flat out said they were inspiration and why he did a homage with Peter Parker ripping open his shirt like Superman

this movie is loved for the impact it had, not its qualities as a work of cinema. Reeves nailed it and it did a credible job bringing this angelic comic book hero to life.

>>212211224
And the comics even back then were outlandish sci fi adventures, not slice of life romantic comedy

>>212211605
They were limited by FX. They pretty much reached as much as they do with practical FX. Why Superman Returns was such a disappointed. First Superman movie with advance of CGI where could show Superman’s full power and make it as boring as fuck

>>212211605
Try making a full on action movie with Brainiac or Bizarro in fucking 1978 and see how badly it looks bozo

>>212209026 (OP)
Weird that they gave an inconsequential character like Clark Kent a spot on the poster. I guess they needed someone to fill in that spot and it would have been even more awkward to put Jimmy Olsen.

>>212209026 (OP)
It's the directing and score. It makes the movie seem like this epic action story when it's really just a low stakes drama for the most part.

>>212212049
And this would prove that the film is an outlandish sci fi adventure?

>>212209026 (OP)
This is why hollywood is the way it is.

It was the most expensive movie ever made up until that point and they spent a shit ton of money promoting it (also because the sequel was filmed back to back to they had to make sure it would be a hit)
The movie literally begins by telling the audience how important the character is to American history. They even held a premiere for the Royal Family and another at the Kennedy Center.

The Dark Knight of its time (overrated "elevated" kid flick)

>>212209026 (OP)
No one has ever compared this to Star Wars

>>212209026 (OP)
It's because new hope and this movie are both terrible pieces of shit

The one great Superman film is The Mechanical Monsters, eight minutes of Superman fighting giant robots and rescuing Lois from a villain and a volcano. That was the peak, and it's all been downhill ever since.

A 95-year-old Superman fan

>>212209026 (OP)
it's an old movie, I don't think anyone can answer correctly.

>>212211224
Honestly the entire cast is flawless. Gene Hackman is charismatic as hell as the lovable scoundrel type, and Margot Kidder absolutely nailed Lois' dichotomy of driven professional and mush-brained lovestuck girl when Superman is around.

>>212213231
>A 95-year-old Superman fan
prove it

>>212213294
I'm trans by the way

>>212213231
>back in my day Superman would beat the shit out of those japs, now that's the real Superman

Superman wasn't even from Kansas before this movie. Smallville was the countryside outside of Metropolis.

This movie was made decades before capeshit movies became popular it's the OG

>>212209026 (OP)
It was intended to be the first part of a double feature with Superman II. They were filmed simultaneously but the cost overruns resulted in the sequel getting delayed and the first one being reworked as a standalone film. This was supposed to be the first half of the story. Originally it was Luther's nukes that freed Zod from the phantom zone at the end of the first movie, and Lois's death and the time reversal came later at the end of the second.

>>212213416
So that's why it's so bad

>>212213231
As someone who got a VHS of Fleischer Superman as a kid for begin a Good Boy on my first doctor's visit, I agree.
Peak of the character

>>212213416
Again, how does that make it an adventure epic? Already with batman 89 theres more adventure and escapism

>>212213122
James Gunn did

>>212213405
irrelevant

>>212213722
James Gunn is a retard then

>>212213677
Again, nobody calls it an adventure epic.

>>212213231
>>212213663
Fleischer Superman was infinitely more exciting than all that came after. Save for Man of Steel's City leveling Fisticuffs.

>>212209026 (OP)
- Impeccable cast incuding the single greatest actor to portray Superman to date
- Is played 100% straight without a hint of self-awareness or mockery, even during sillier moments
- Donner's direction, Unsworth's photography, and Williams' score are all on fire
- Superb production design

Yeah the script can be stupid, Luthor's only lackeys being a retard and a sexoo stick out particularly, but the whole thing is made with so much enthusiasm and passion and talent that it's hard not to get utterly swpt up in it

>>212210661
Agreed with all of this, but I still think the first one is deserving of its praise, warts and all

>>212215200
>Is played 100% straight without a hint of self-awareness or mockery, even during sillier moments
Batman was the only prior capeshit that was a farce but somehow people created this idea that Superman The Movie invented capeshit being played straight

>>212215901
The only major theatrical comic book movie before Superman was Barbarella, which was very campy and silly

That's how people viewed comic books, and in fairness they could get very frivolous back in the day. Superman was a concerted effort to reject camp, and Donner had to fight hard aganist the producers to maintain it