Who was the weakest 007, in your opinion?

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>>212219699 (OP)
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig followed by Moore when he phoned it

>>212219699 (OP)
It is either Daniel Craig, who awkwardly when from new young guy to old semi-retired agent in short order, while not looking very Bond-like nor acting particularly Bond-like, or George Lazenby, who was simultaneously in the best movie while being probably the worst-performing actor, who had even conned his way into the role, as he wasn't an actor to begin with. It is a difficult decision.

>>212219699 (OP)
Daniel Craig obviously
Casino Royale is great but Bond in the 21st century just doesn't work

>>212220438
>probably the worst-performing actor
Literally the director's fault who said 007 shouldn't have too much emotions, also physically he acted the part, he was a former army dude after all

>>212220444
>Bond in the 21st century just doesn't work
It can work but not as a good guy, then again in some novels he is the clear anti-hero

>>212219699 (OP)
That's hard for me. Every Bond players has at least one good and one bad Bond movie. Except Dalton and Lazenby I guess but their tenure was shorter than everyone elses.

So probably Moore. He's as great as the rest, but I dislike more of his movies.

>>212219699 (OP)
I never really like Moore. Guy always seemed checked out and by his last appearance he was a walking skeleton.

Anyone who doesn't say Lazenby is just doing it to be a contrarian.

>>212220525
Roger Moore looked like a rather fit businessman rather than an extremely fit former military man, but he was amongst the smarter of the James Bond actors. He had the clever wits of Sean Connery's Bond, while generally seeming a little more academically-inclined, as though he was in the habit of reading many books.

>>212220559
I did, but I'm divided between him and Craig, at the moment. How do you personally rate the Craig era of James Bond?

>>212219699 (OP)
Easily Craig. I'm sorry but the guy actually has no charisma. Lazenby doesn't either, but the point of that movie was vulnerable Bond. So is Casino Royale, but Craig lacks the "softness" Lazenby had. That said though, Moore is worse in Octopussy and A View To A Kill.

Roger Moore was too effete, Connery too boorish, Craig too boring, Lazenby too irrelevant, and Dalton has a villainous vibe.

Brosnan was the best Bond by a mile.

>>212220597
>a little more academically-inclined
He was a dork in Live and Let Die and Man with a Golden Gun, For Your Eyes Only
That was the problem, he was a walking contradiction, dork but quick witted, clumsy but extremely calm in combat or high-tension situations yet also explosive and irritable in controlled situations like interrogations or arrests. His character doesn't make sense half the time, and the directors' ass pulls also didn't help him at all.
Like >>212220519 said it's normal people knock on Moore because most of his movies are not very good but that's a problem with everyone involved, he didn't help himself either but i think Moore was a good actor, more so than Lazenby or Craig, Brosnan gets shit often but i've seen most of his stuff and that guy was as good if not better since his early BBC days, he was just used as a dummy in his early Hollywood shit.

Lazenby wasn't really an actor and didn't have much charisma but weirdly his fecklessness sort of works in the context of the movie

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig never worked as Bond. Absolutely joyless, devoid of charisma, Exhibit A of the horrific grimdark trend of 2000s and 2010s action and superhero flicks. Casino was only great in spite of him.

Timothy Dalton. When I watched the movie as I wee lad I was disturbed by dalton bond because he exuded sexual predator energy. Just look at this face.

>>212220865
Thing is, they were intentionally going for the Borne Identity thing, as it was the hot shit at the time. What's odd is that the Craig era outlived that trend, despite still rolling with that trend.

>>212220926
Dude does have a weird face.

>>212220691
>Dalton has a villainous vibe.
Bond is a villain in the books, Moore was also a villain in The Man with the Golden Gun, the whole plot is about the UK retrieving and hiding efficient solar technology that got out to the public.
>>212220691
Brosnan needed one more normal movie after Goldeneye, TND was too erratic in the script, TWINE is him doing a job too casually and DAD was a mess.
First one is him doing an uninterested Connery Bond, second is him doing a more serious Moore Bond, third is a Dalton-like and fourth is a full blown Moore Bond. He needed to polish the Moore Bond with Dalton demeanor, he had it in TWINE but the script didn't help him that much with him being henpecked by Elektra.

>>212221005
>Bond is a villain in the books
No, not really. You might want to read them.

>>212219699 (OP)
Probably Lazensby, because Craig was never Bond to begin with.

>>212220691
Brosnan was too soft looking. He looks like a model, not a secret agent.

If you read the books, you'd know Dalton is the closest, followed by Connery.

>>212220559
Lazenby is still Bond, unlike Craig.

>>212220926
>exuded sexual predator energy
If anything Dalton is known for picking problem girls and trying to fix them, he had a long-winded in-n-out stint with Vanessa Redgrave and couldn't fix her feminism and le independent woman after 20 years, then in Hollywood he picked russian piano girl who wanted more action and had to bail when her mother told him her antics, later she would be the famous russian whore gf of Mel Gibson.
Poor dude can't catch a break, also for some reason banged Whoopi because no girl liked his pedestrian tea-sipping bong lifestyle.

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig hands down. He's a faggot

>>212221136
Nah you're just a retard who has dumb opinions and doesn't have any friends so nobody ever tells you that you shouldn't speak about them publicly because they're fucking stupid.

>>212221054
>You might want to read them.
I have read a couple and the late short stories, Bond is a villain if we consider the consequences of his actions along with his cold-blooded MO, that's why Dalton portrayed him as such, a glowie hitman who plays with the weak aka girls to achieve his ends.

>>212220438
>>212220559
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>>212221145
Lazenby was not Sean Connery, but he was especially not Sean Connery during his weakest era of being James Bond. You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever exemplify that Connery was cashing-in on the role without being the role as well as he could be. Lazenby at least worked pretty well for the time for On Her Majesty's Secret Service, considering that it could have been another dispassionate entry for Connery, the film getting weakened as a result. Furthermore, James Bond in OHMSS gets married, and Lazenby displayed a more youthful passion for that, versus what could have been a less convincing portrayal of Bond getting married by the then-bored and somewhat old-looking Connery.

>>212220691
>Roger Moore was too effete

That's the writer's fault. Moore could play a hard motherfucker; but they wrote his Bond as a pussy cat.

Check out this scene from The Wild Geese. I wish they'd let Moore play Bond like this. He could have been one of the best.

https://youtu.be/Xy7zs2IGZ8Y

>>212219699 (OP)
craig

>>212221180
Whoopi fucking Goldberg? Nigga has patrician taste us plebs cannot comprehend

>>212221180
>also for some reason banged Whoopi
Assuming he came after Ted he probably wanted to know what Ted knew. Cause clearly Ted knew something. And if they dated after she dated Ted Danson? I dunno.

>>212221136
>followed by Connery
Brosnan is a good 007 by the book in Goldeneye, perhaps too tranquil tho, also Bond is practically a model if we go by his official portrait no homo
>>212221250
>You Only Live Twice
A good movie but Connery certainly seems bored out of his mind more so than Brosnan in Goldeneye, he is expressionless to the paramount level of shenanigans occurring to him.
It is ironic that the supposed best Bond can be criticized for being shit in half his movies.

>>212221361
>And if they dated after
BEFORE

>>212221212
Go suck off Brosnan somewhere else. This is a Dalton thread now.

>>212221252
>bunch of beer-bellied, balding, middle aged men
kek. in Das Boot (the book not the film) the soldiers were all 15-17 years old. the captain being the only one in his 20s was called the "old man". shit likke this ruins the immersion. them being famous hollywood millionaires makes it even worse.

>>212219699 (OP)
the one with the tainted blood and small hat affiliation

>>212221370
>that sketch
Still looks more like Dalton to me.

>>212221370
I think it is generally uncontroversial that Thunderball was Connery's last good movie as Bond. Anything else that followed that was usually just decent, like You Only Live Twice might have been, or poor, as Diamonds Are Forever is usually regarded. Some people think Never Say Never Again was either decent or poor, while others say it is not a real James Bond movie. You decide.

>>212221333
He drilled some of that oil after Licence to Kill, for some reason
>>212221361
>Assuming he came after Ted
Immediately before, Whoopi picked Ted months after Tim had enough chocolate but i am now reading Tim took another dip in the mid-to-late 90's again, in that one picture i think anon is right, he does have a pervy face and Whoopi was beginning her Aunt Jemina arc.

>>212220410
very cool

>>212221370
Why do you think Brosnan's performance was on the bored side during GoldenEye? That was his first film, and he seemed young and well-dressed, with a rather jovial attitude from time to time, while also maintaining an appropriately serious demeanour much of the time as befitting his job.

>>212221370
Why are they so afraid of casting a man with a slightly receding hairline as James Bond, if the original art depicts him as such? Because, I wouldn't exactly consider Sean Connery or Roger Moore to have had particularly receding hairlines. I guess Timothy Dalton was the closest the art work, and he did have a receding hairline, but he was the only one who looked much like the original sketch of the character, and he had even read the books.

>>212221436
>the captain being the only one in his 20s was called the "old man"
It was rough times, i can see Prochnow being 20 something there, also his face is all rugged, that doesn't help either.
Euros can look older despite being only teenagers, pic related was 17 when the photo was taken, now imagine without shaving

>>212221529
Bored as in stoic as hell despite the happenings near him, being jovial and young isn't exactly good considering the intro was around TLD times which had Bond being already quite serious.
It wasn't bad at all, just bored, for example Trevelyan cheering him up in the facility and him being just unenthusiastic, like you said befitting the context but too much. Then sometimes also way too enthusiastic, it does fit because he is when playing with women, like the inspector in Monaco, Xenia in general...
Now that i think of it he only is bored and serious when talking with agents or crucial assets, he breaks face with disposable women or people he knows very well like Q and the guy in the satellite room, even so he wasn't like that with 006, that's funny as it implies he never cared that much for him despite the movie saying otherwise. That's decent writing and acting but that last aspect is making some noise in me, it's the most important relationship in the movie after all.

>>212221494
>Timothy and Ted both wanted to bone Mrs. Buttersworth
Checks out I get it.

>>212221802
Bond did seem rather sad while listening to Trevelyan speaking to him at the statue park. It could be that he cared about him as a colleague, but maybe not as some imagined good friend like Trevelyan probably thought in prior times. Trevelyan could have overestimated it all quite much.

1. Brosnan
2. Connery (would be #1 had he retired after Thunderball, he really phoned it in later)
3. Lazenby (hard to judge with only 1 movie but it was a damn good one, way better than the two Connery cash grabs that bookended it)
4. Dalton
5. Moore (he started off well but kept going for way too long and a bunch of his movies were slop)
6. Craig

>>212221868
This list is the correct one. Pierce Brosnan was the one James Bond actor who could have possibly worked within any of the movies before and after him, provided that he's permanently at his 40s in age.

>>212220926
>sexual predator energy

>>212221619
>and he had even read the books.
He was Fleming's pick after Christopher Lee who was well-read in the books, was Fleming's cousin, friend and had literal undercover military experience in WWII, sadly Terence Young and the producers were mouthbreathing retards and didn't pick him for being too gloomy.
Dalton was the next choice but was considered too young so they picked Lazenby, then still considered too young and picked Adam West but in the end they didn't want an american and picked Moore. THEN they picked Brosnan but the man had a contract with Remingston Steele and by a miracle they picked him, then they picked Brosnan again later.
In all this shit they also skipped Edward Fox who was a top-tier actor, bookworm and did an excellent similar role in The Day of the Jackal, but was considered too short and not naturally dark-haired. That's why he recoiled publicly when Craig was picked.

>>212221817
>Mrs. Buttersworth
I don't get it, Buttersworth was a white lady
>>212221864
>Trevelyan could have overestimated it all quite much
That makes much more sense overall and it explains many things, you have a good mind
Perhaps the novelization puts more into it but that is written after the original script so it probably is headcanon by a hired pen.
>>212221953
>actor who could have possibly worked within any of the movies before and after him
That's a weird criteria but it is so, Brosnan seems to be the only actor who can do all the Bond styles without any problem, Dalton is good but his comedy depends on being the authority, Brosnan can do the Moore and be the retarded one.

>>212222136
She was? Well I'll be.

>>212222136
Yeah, Brosnan's movies were like microcosms of the different eras that preceded his entry to the Bond role. Throughout, there were some more generally Connery, Moore, or Dalton-seeming moments, and maybe a nod to Lazenby or so, as well. Brosnan would have been getting a little old, but if directors had directed some more serious 2000s and 2010s movies after Die Another Day to change the tone of the 007 series, Brosnan could have gone on to do well within those movies, too, if they were made. Obviously, Casino Royale wasn't going to work with an already established Bond actor, particularly by that point in his age.

>>212219699 (OP)
It's Craig and it isn't as all that close.

>>212222339
Let's see what Craig supporters have to say.

>>212222159
White man's butter syrup
>>212222288
Bond as a franchise is a bunch of bad decisions but a few good ones like keeping John Barry and signing a contract with Pinewood Studios.
Bond is still relevant as a character because his situations still happen, short-lived geopolitical showdowns with massive coverups but they need to be smaller in scale, like in FYEO and with a fucking good writer and a good director, letting Campbell go was also retarded but perhaps he had enough with Craig.

>>212222415
I'm just thrilled to find out I've been combining Aunt Jemima and Buttersworth for years now. I wonder if I mixed any Uncle Ben in there somehow too.

>>212219699 (OP)
Physically? Definitively Tymothy Dalton, man is a stickfigure I can't take seriously in direct physical confrontations, his arms are the size of a 12 year old boy, despite that he is probably my favorite Bond, he just doesn't really come across as that he will survive any direct physical confrontation.

>>212220438
This except for the part where you said in the best movie - I would consider it good but below average. It's like a 70s/80s european horror movie - sexy stuff and all.

>>212222374
I think Casino Royale is one of the best Bond movies of all time and has the best theme song too. But the rest of the Craig movies were all kinda... not bad, but not really good either

>>212219699 (OP)
As much as I liked moore, he and his films felt too campy and relied on the villain to reel him in. Could have been the fault of the production company chasing trends too much, but the ditzy companions with empty heads and side characters like JW Pepper
Dalton was the best bond
Brosnan was a good mix of serious and light hearted.
Craig was just trying too hard to be super serious
We didn't get to know Lazenby that well

>>212220519
Licence to Kill is shit

>>212221180
>that dating history
That's almost just dunking on normoids.
When you grow up as handsome and masculine as him women are probably a child's game. It doesn't trigger your wooing/seduction/courting instincts if a woman just instantly caves to your intent, and every woman in his life probably turned to goo in his hands.
So he developed a complex where he only felt he was talking to a desirable woman (aka a woman who is of such status she might potentially reject, not accept out of hand) if he was talking to an insane woman who gave off mixed signals.

>>212222627
Gay opinion. It's the last proper classic Bond, and it's a damn good one. It's the revenge movie we should've had after On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

>>212222632
hilarious cope

>>212222627
It relies too much on copying mutt action cinema but puts a spin on it with an exotic location, a fictional balkanized former mexican country with a defacto cartel gov, that's as relevant as you can get.
Henchman was shit but the villain was great, a remake of Man with the Golden Gun except without the gun but all the suave skills to command people. It's definitely better than most Moore shit, not all because it's a fact LTK doesn't feel that much like a spy Bond movie but a personal revenge one although he still acts like a double agent there.

>>212222828
It makes sense and happens way too often, except the modern version of getting tired of women is to become gay, see ultra studs like George Michael and Ricky Martin, became massive faggots because they landed any woman they wanted by 21yo and had to tick their rocks with fetish shit, in this case hairy dudes with thick nightsticks, in some other cases it's kids, in some other cases in Asia it's animals.
In Dalton's case it's sassy problem girls, a modern analogy would be pretty dudes trying to convert lesbians despite being able to land anything.
Dude wasn't ugly no homo, 23yo in pic related, probably already ate what he wanted as a lead when he did theater in middle-class cities.

>>212219699 (OP)
>>212220438
Most of Daniel Craig's movies involve him being an agent at the edge of retirement or even in fact implied to have been retired for a time, and is getting called back into action. No less than three called out of retirement movies define Craig, compared to the films of any other James Bond actor.

>>212219699 (OP)
Peter Sellers.

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig, obviously. Then Moore.

>>212223930
It's a fucking joke. Ageing is topical in recent times among hollywood writers because like any old boy's network they've realize they're not going to live forever after all. I had no problem with Moore being on the older side, it's why are they constantly bringing this theme up. How is that meant to appeal to young people? F1 is emblematic of this again but at least that's not taking and established franchise and using it as your cumrag for your personal issues.

Whatever estrogen flavored weakling they will put up next.

>>212224102
>next
Bond is ogre

>>212220926
He looks like great bond then.

>>212219699 (OP)
>>212220438
>>212223930
>>212224087
Did Daniel Craig rapidly age, or something? Why the sudden jump from young new agent to old-timer? Only four years separate Quantum of Solace and Skyfall, if I remember correctly.

>>212219699 (OP)
Daniel Craig

>>212219699 (OP)
Sean Connery > Pierce Brosnan > Roger Moore > Timothy Dalton > George Lazenby > Daniel Craig

>>212219699 (OP)
Im taking Brosnan less serious after having unlucky decision to watch Steele.
Dude was so sleazy, effeminate and elusive in it I could no longer to take him seriously as a hardass agent.
That being said - Craig.

>>212219699 (OP)
Lazenby

>>212222627
License to Kill is at the very least top-5.

>>212219699 (OP)
Whoever the next Bond is.

>>212219699 (OP)

CRAIG BY FAR

HE RUINED THE FRANCHISE

>>212219699 (OP)
What's with all the people here bashing Craig so much? Daniel Craig saved James Bond from being seen as an extinct series for the Austin Powers comedy movies to parody. Yes, Pierce Brosnan saw Bond getting out of the Cold War era, but his latest film got too silly, more like a Spy Kids movie or Agent Cody Banks than a proper James Bond 007 film.

>>212225047
>I could no longer to take him seriously
Means he did a great job at Steele, that's what an actor should do
>>212225400
>Craig saved Bond from being seen as an extinct series for the Austin Powers movies to parody
Craig made the movies be the parodies themselves with his acting, the scripts also didn't do any favors nor the casting. Leiter is not a nigger nor is Moneypenney, why is a villain hacking the MI6 by doing yoga in the most secure cell inside there? why did Bond unlock himself from a torture chair 9000, made operated by Blofeld and made by Spectre, with the power of love? why did Spectre let him inside a secret reunion by saying he was Mickey Mouse? how is Spectre a technocrat criminal organization when their election processes are based in brute force death matches?
It's fucking retarded but he doesn't act like Bond nor as a clown, Moore would've made the new movies work if he got into them young, he had the wood to turn them into silly spy clown shows.
>his latest film got too silly
Director went mad, not Brosnan's fault.

>>212224901
>Did Daniel Craig rapidly age, or something? Why the sudden jump from young new agent to old-timer?
They fucked up. Skyfall's not a bad film but the decision to make Craig's 007 old and busted in it never made any sense. He'd only just been granted 00 status two films earlier.

>>212225913
And Quantum of Solace was a back-to-back direct sequel to Casino Royale's events.

>>212225982
Yeah exactly, so it's almost like Skyfall's only his second story... and he's already too old? Just a nonsensical decision.

>>212225913
>Skyfall's not a bad film
Wrong.

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig or Dalton. Neither really embodied the role well.
As for strongest I would say Connery or Brosnan.

Just rewatched LTK, whoever says it's shit should be sentenced to watch QoS

Roger moore

>>212219699 (OP)
Ranking them objectively best to worst:

1. Dalton
2. Connery
3. Craig
4. Moore
5. Brosnan
6. Lazenby

Moore. Most mid Bond

Connery > Dalton > Brosnan > Craig > Moore > Lazenby

>>212221136
Brosnan is fucking cool.

>>212225400
it's contrarianism based on politics because they think he's cringe and whipped or whatever

>>212219699 (OP)
I'm going to go with Craig.

>>212221252
That was a good scene, I didn't know Moor could be so stone cold and convincingly too.

>>212229947
Watch these:

https://youtu.be/kcWMYwPCIXk?si=sTryNoAJcGAyhZjz

https://youtu.be/c-f0DwbNF08?si=BIsCkqugBB4Z0YRF

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig. Miscast from the start. Of course they make him the longest serving Bond.
Even Lazenby, most people's fifth place, looked the part and did a credible job. Crazy fucker turned down a seven picture deal to stay in the part.

>>212229626
>Objectively
>Craig above anyone
Looney opinion
>>212231191
>Crazy fucker turned down a seven picture deal to stay in the part.
He had some bad luck in cinema, after Bond he had some trouble getting acting jobs but landed a friendship with Bruce Lee and both committed to make some movies in the US and Australia, then Lee got poisoned and smashed to death before they agreed on the first script to work.
Supposedly ended up being filthy rich due to his business maneuvers outside the medium, richer than vast majority of actors.

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig even though I like CR and QOS. SF through NTTD was melodramatic drivel. Lazenby was a worse actor but more believable as Bond.

>>212220500
>You gotta follow the novel perfectly!!!
Learn to live.

>>212232387
Learn to pen a script and direct, kiddo, you can and have to at times make clutter omissions but not change crucial aspects like character traits that apply to plot points

>>212220438
>while not looking very Bond-like

20 years later and we're still doing the "CRAIG IS BLONDE" Autism. It's single-handedly the dumbest objection you can have.

>>212220444
Bond didn't "work" in the 1950's. He was extremely out of time from the day he started.

Bond started when the Brits had been under rationing for years. Their country was broke from WW2. The news was full of the American government calling all the shots on the world stage, they hadn't the money to travel abroad, and they'd been eating the same 5 shitting meals for nearly ten years.

Bond was escapism. The first book has over 40 meals described in it. He travels the world. The British government gets to control the world order. The average reader had had nothing but water and tea to drink, Bond snubbed tea (called it "mud") for exotic drinks like coffee and cocktails. The reader lived vicariously through him. Not shooting people, but consuming.

The fantasy of Bond didn't start as kicking-ass. It was having money and being important. He acted like a rich Brit from the 1910s, in a 1950's book.

>>212220475
The scene where he finds Vesper in the shower and puts her fingers in his mouth is the mathematically perfect level of emotion for James Bond.

>>212232843
>Bond started when the Brits had been under rationing for years. Their country was broke from WW2. The news was full of the American government calling all the shots on the world stage, they hadn't the money to travel abroad, and they'd been eating the same 5 shitting meals for nearly ten years.
I wouldn't give up your day job (lol) to be an internet historian anytime soon.

>>212219699 (OP)
I think for this era of hindsight, the worst James Bond is Daniel Craig. But I think he will move up in the rankings over the decades.
Overall right now we're largely tired of the action movie that the 2010s Bonds represented but that legacy will improve over time.
I think Lazenby and Dalton are fedora tier favorites that generally represent one-(and two) offs in the franchise.
The Dalton Bonds are perfect for the era, they weren't movies Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan could do. He was in a way himself >>212221180 a modest attractive in a weird way man of the era who could do those movies.
Brosnan was perfect for the 90s, a counter to the steroid blunt cartoonishness that American and Continental action was taking, a sophisticated lover who traveled the world to look attractive between the fight scenes as opposed to Sly or JCVD who usually had to call his wife and talk to his kids about their baseball game while the world collapsed around them.
People like to shit on Moore because his movies are silly (Jaws is the perfect example of that) but that silliness is what people expected in action at the time people were going to see Star Wars and Indiana Jones and Jaws, the James Bond of the era reflected that, it's still Bond, but it's a Bond for the Blockbuster era, a Bond of silly tropes and fart-tier jokes.
Connery is James Bond, that's the model. That's the formula for an action movie, that's the formula for an action star in Western Cinema after the death of the Cowboy hero. Charlton Heston provided the Yang to that Yin and that's how we get all today's action stars.

Barry Nelson

>>212224950
Not bad, but you put all the Moore films in the wrong tier.

>>212233166
Seething bong, he made sense and still does, english meals look like the jerries are still flying over their heads
>>212233664
I think Craig will be criticized over time if anything, his Bond doesn't have depth and compared to its peers like Bourne, Vin Diesel slop, Neeson slop, Brosnan action stuff and the etc of the 2005-2019 his acting is also wooden. He had plenty of time to perfect it too but didn't, it's just not good but his context didn't help either, the movies itself flip flop between serious grimdark and retarded magic tech surrealism in mere minutes, how can you be consistent with that.

>>212219699 (OP)
Craig

>>212233664
>I think for this era of hindsight, the worst James Bond is Daniel Craig. But I think he will move up in the rankings over the decades.
He won't move up in the rankings, all the Bonds before him will remain above him, but there'll probably be even shitter Bonds in future so he won't stay at the bottom of the list.

>>212221136
> If you read the books, you'd know Dalton is the closest, followed by Connery.

Dalton losers once again prove they never read the books. Dalton was not at all like the books. Craig is actually the closest to the books. Bond literally falls in love with every woman he meets. It was Terrance Young that ignored that and made Bond. wolf in a tux. Getting a navy boxer and Mr Universe scottish brute Connery who had never worn a suit. Fleming at first hated it. Calling Connery a gypsy thug. But after see Dr No and seeing what Young was going for, he loved it and made Bond part Scottish

>>212220444
>Bond in the 21st century just doesn't work
Disagree. Its like horse carriages turning into cars. All that is needed is a change in interest.

>>212235514
>Craig is actually the closest to the books
Doesn't look the part, doesn't act the part, doesn't drink the part, doesn't smoke the part, doesn't even kill like the part.
Dalton is superior in every sense, simple as.

>>212235720
You know Bond from the movies. Craig is closes to the books. Book Bond is snobbish over emotional bong that has fits about the stupidest shit. Falls in love in every fucking book. He’s not a womanizing sex predator like the movies. Terrence Young and Connory defined movie Bond. Why every actor who auditions for Bond has to do the From Russia With Love scene

>>212219699 (OP)
how they get all those guys together in the same room like that at the same time?

>>212235913
>Why every actor who auditions for Bond has to do the From Russia With Love scene
You need to befriend the Broccolis to get the roles, thinking it's about that audition is a mid-wit take.
>Craig is closes to the books
Doesn't look the part, doesn't act the part, doesn't drink the part, doesn't smoke the part, doesn't even kill like the part.
Dalton is superior in every sense, simple as.

Lazenby isn't great, but they put a great movie around him. And I think I care more about that than the actor playing Bond.
People say Connery phoned it in for YOLT, but that's the best Connery movie.
People say Brosnan actually did a great job in DAD, but what is that worth?

Daniel Craig
or as I like to call him
GAY BAR WEET IK
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LBPB

>>212219699 (OP)
Roger moore

>>212219699 (OP)
>5,4,7,1/3,6,2
what is this ordering nonsense?

>>212237859
>what is that worth
Main character is more important than the adventure but it's pointless if the script is shit and the character progression sucks, also in movies like Bond where the side characters are as important it is crucial.
TLD hasn't good antagonists other than the great henchmen so Dalton is doing the heavy lifting along with great set pieces at times, LTK has a great Bond and a great villain but the henchmen are okayish to pointless so it doesn't feel as dangerous despite the plot being interesting.
OHMSS is an oddity because it works due to the writing alone being good and some set pieces being great. Goldfinger works because everyone is doing their job well despite half the movie not being very good, frankly it sucks when they go to the US, Casino Royale works because the directing is good and the script is solid despite having a shit-tier Bond.
It's a bunch of factors like you said well, but a Bond being good should be mandatory.

>the script is shit
Everything against Brosnan is such NPC scripted babble. Nothing about it makes sense. The scripts were just fine and typical Bond fare.

Lazenby. OHMSS is also abyssmal. The only other 007 movie that sucks as bad is No Time To Die. The only two of the whole series that I find no enjoyment in.

>>212225913
He wasn't old and busted, he got shot at the start of the film and then got out of shape on some island

>>212221252
i liked Moore in Ffolkes. And Tony Perkins steals the mother fuckin show

>>212219699 (OP)
Daniel Crag literally had zero style, charm and charisma. He was just some faceless goon exacting violence on the enemy and sometimes he wore a suit.