Is it possible for a Terminator film to ever be good again?

anything is possible. its just highly unlikely

No, it's been terminated

Yes if it focuses on the future war and does it well with purple lazers and shit

I liked Genisys. Mostly, anyway.

John Connor's son travels back to the 60s to save Sarah Connor's mom from a Terminator that has been made to look like Elvis.

>>212227748
>Genisys
Genisys opening with lasers was kino

>>212227437 (OP)
Shit's run its course. At least we got 2 good movies from it. Predator just had the one good movie and they're still trying to milk that franchise.

I consider the Resistance game to be the canon ending to the Terminator series.

>>212227437 (OP)
Nope, not a chance.

>>212227437 (OP)
Not with the current Hollywood "talent", we have seen their reboots and partial retcon attempts already.

>>212227437 (OP)
It would have to be rebooted

Set it in 2035, a Terminator comes from 2075
Judgement Day is 2045

>>212227437 (OP)
keep Arnold away from it completely, have it rated R, no catchphrases from the other movies, no overuse music queues/theme, dont make it a comedy, and have actors play the rolls, not celebrity's

>>212227437 (OP)
its not really possible for film in general to ever be good again. even when we're locally generating everything a greater and greater percentage is going to be shit.

>>212227437 (OP)
For your kind? Sure, since your only objective is denigration. Which is why you want new terminator movies.

>>212228239
Sam Heughan as the T-800

Why can't we just make new shit? Why is it only sequels to 40 year old properties these days.

>>212228369
John Wick was new. Also there's that Bratt Pitt racing movie out now.

Just do another horror spin on the franchise. I don't get why every movie after 2 has to be action, they've done that for 30 years now it's time to try another horror one.

It'd be way cheaper too

>>212228636
Nah, make it a comedy

>>212228718
Make it for boys. Enough of this making shit for girls stuff. That's what got Terminator shitcanned. They did like 3 movies in a row with a weak female lead.

>>212228007
Resistance ended the trilogy perfectly imo. It was the only way to carry the story forward while simultaneously linking the two movies to it. Kino game, true terminator sequel

>>212228007
Predator had two good movies though. Everything from Predator, Terminator and Aliens after the first two is just for teenager entertainment now. Terminator Resistance, Alien Isolation, Robocop Rogue City are all fantastic additions to the movies. Now we need a faithful Predator game where you're being hunted by a serious and deadly smart Predator that makes you as scared as Alien Isolation.

Robocop vs Terminator
Its time

>>212229227
Robocop would get fucked up. I mean the guy can't even jog because he's so sluggish. All he has is durability and good aim, which won't help against a terminator.

>>212227437 (OP)
The only hope was a kino future war movie but they screwed it up

>>212227437 (OP)
no

>>212229339
Robot > Cyborg

>>212229339
Go to bed, Dick.

>>212228369
Because nobody goes to see them at the cinema. The highest grossing original film so far this year was Sinners, which made $364,536,257. 10 years ago it was Inside Out at $858,294,430. And to put that into further perspective, Pixar's original animated movie this year (Elio), has only made $72,056,358. Less than a tenth.

Sequels and remakes are the only thing keeping the film industry alive, and if you want that to change then go see the original films that they're bringing out. These were all great:

>The Phoenician Scheme
>Warfare
>Opus
>Heart Eyes
>Better Man
>September 5
>Saturday Night

>>212228007
>>212229118
Predator has only three decent movies (1, 2 and the crossover with Alien).
Alien has five very good movies (1-4 and Romulus).
Terminator has three very good movies (the trilogy).
Seethe. I'm right.

>>212227437 (OP)
You can only make one really good movie, maybe two, but it has to be set in future war, purple lasers and shit.>>212227748
And it ends with the assassin terminators and resistance guardians being sent back.
Close the loop.
Everytihing else is redundant shit and Dark Fate was unwatchable garbage that killed John Connor. I blame Arnold

>>212229787
I wish they had fixed this for the 4k release, it's the one instance where I'd be okay with digital tampering.

>>212228007
Predator has 2 great movies and 1
Good movie

>>212228007
Predator, Prey, Predator: Killer of Killers

>>212228542
and then they quickly made 4 more of them

>>212230988
Can we stop pretending Predator 2 was good?

>>212231175
it was great

>>212231119
Prey sucked. Killer of Killers sucked.

good ones:
Terminator: 1-2
Predator: Predator, Prey, Predator: Killer of Killers
ALIEN: 1-2, Prometheus, Romulus

this is canon

>set movie several decades after the fall of skynet
>humanity is in shambles
>new societies beginning to form
>most terminators were destroyed
>they are now very rare however they are occasionally found
>individual terminators can be manually brought back online
>they are now free from Skynets control and follow their own agendas
>survivor colony in the Utah desert finds one such terminator and brings him back online
>colony is attacked by a warlord biker gang
>terminator is torn between his interests but eventually decides to help town BTFO biker gang
>big surprise biker gang found an Abrams tank
>big fight at the end
>Terminator learns what it means to believe in something

>>212231175
There was nothing wrong at all with Predator 2. You're likely just butthurt that Arnold wasn't in it. Not every sequel has to have the exact same protagonist endlessly fighting the same monsters like it's their destiny.

>>212227437 (OP)
no

>>212231309

>Prey, Predator: Killer of Killers
>Prometheus, Romulus

all dogshit and not canon

You can’t do a future war film without a budget of like 250 million dollars. And if the budget is that high you’re going to get studio interference nonstop (woke slop: John Conor being saved by a girl etc. ) literally the only way to bypass that would be to have James Cameron himself direct the film since he can shit talk producers. But James himself brings up its own issues. For me, you could just remake the first one with like a 20 million dollar budget. Lean into more horror than action. It could be kino.

>>212231441
This, any future terminator movie should be completely new. No John Conner, no Arnold. Don’t even mention him.

>>212231523
Yes, you can. It would be super easy even. Just make it dark as fuck with eerie bright lights in the distant sky. Some mangled wreckage all around. Then minatures for hunter killer aircraft and tanks. A few dozen nobody resistance fighters running around with prop laser guns thay you have special effects for purple lasers coming out. Wouldn't expect it to be a giga-blockbuster though. There's no real story that would be interesting except what they already did in Terminator Resistance.

The last good Terminator movie

>>212231441
Originally, the plot was the Predator targeting Dutch's brother or something. But anyway, I just thought Pred 2 was shit because it was cheesey, like most cop films of the era.

>>21223117
Predator 2 continues to age like a fine wine.

>>212227437 (OP)
I feel like robuts blending in and sabotaging humans has been done better in Battlestar Galactica.

How about Terminators go further back in time. The scene where Arnie cuts the skin off his hand to show the Dysons his robut hand? Imagine that but with 1700s people.

>>212229339
T-800 never ran anywhere either to my recollection

>>212231824
Massive plot hole that was never addressed. Maybe traveling farther back takes more and more electricity and skynet doesn’t have it

>>212231824
>I feel like robuts blending in and sabotaging humans has been done better in Battlestar Galactica
I love BSG, but they aren't even kind of the same. Terminators and Cylons are vastly different.

>>212231919
First movie addresses it with the psychological interview in the cop station.

>>212227437 (OP)
Not until the T-800 stops being an emasculated underdog counterpart to a much stronger Terminator and goes back to being formidable and scary again.

>>212231980
Centurions have machine gun hands and blast humans whenever the opportunity arises. Human-like models infiltrate and subvert the humans from within. It's the same shit.

>>212227437 (OP)
visually no becuase you don't have the right conditions anymore. Early 90s had directors experimenting a lot mixing classic and new tech while now is just pre-vis and then straight to the cheapest vfx farm. Limitations were the basis for a great recipe

>>212232448
Total CGI Death

>>212231726
Then Predator 1 was terrible since it was cheesy like most meat head, gun shooty, action movies of the era

when i was younger i liked all the terminator movies. now that im older i can only stand the first two

>>212232517
The campy but still intense vibe of these 80s and 90s action movies isn't really something you can recreate in 2025. These movies were a product of the culture that created them. That culture doesn't really exist anymore. Something that doesn't get brought up a lot is that a lot of the people who made these movies were Vietnam veterans. They had seen the shit they were depicting on screen. What exactly does a millienal onions boy know about depicting a jungle war? He's never been in one.

>>212232517
theres good cheesy and theres stupid cheesy. pred 1 was great

>>212229875
Biggest retard on this board

>>212229875
T3 is lame, I'd rather rewatch Salvation

>>212232604
When you’re young all things need to do is check boxes and look cool.

>>212231309
>Predator: Killer of Killers
i wasn't even aware of this shit

>>212232604
I don't mind Salvation but otherwise yeah

>>212227748
Just watch this
https://youtu.be/RLs6zZVHWVM
They will never ever be able to make something so grimey and dirty and real again
Just compare it with Salvation, the clean movie set in a CGI desert with quips and shit
This feels real, like you could touch everything in it
Movies today don't feel like anything, they're a glossy glass screen

>>212233114
When I become God Emperor of humanity I will decree that all movies must be filmed on location, no exception.

>>212232811
>faeces taste good
I disagree anon, but to each their own I guess. You can keep eating it.

>>212233155
Based, feel free to nuke a few countries to save costs on building the set

>>212233114
I bet if you hired a bunch of Ukraine war veterans they could do it. Get rid of the pussy ass basedboys working in (((Hollywood))) who have never endured a day of hardship in their lives.

>>212233114
https://youtu.be/P7nq-r7QWW0

Best scenes in all of Terminator.

>>212231384
Pretty solid but it goes against the deeper theme of the soul’s triumph over technic/society/fate.

>>212231384
LMAO
That's really bad

>>212233686
Thanks man, feel free to contribute something better

>>212231657
I liked Genisys

>>212231657
I was waiting for someone else to say it.

Good list:
Predator 1 & 2, and they should have continued to make them in an episodic format in different eras of history and places on Earth for a few more movies, or at least one anthology like the _Animatrix_.

Terminator 1 & 2. Terminator 1 was an excellent movie, and 2 established Judgement Day as a fixed event in human future history that we will eventually have to reconcile, as will be the case in real life. Terminator Salvation was the only good "sequel", even though it occurs somewhere in the timeline, and was what Terminator 3 & 4 should have been.

Aliens 1 & 2. The first to set up the second, the second to bring the action to a close and leave us with the open ending the franchise deserved. Prometheus was good, and chilling.

Garbage:
Any Predators crossovers with Aliens.

Terminator 3 and the "female supersoldier and drug addict beats terminators to death with her fists" and the "quirky role reversal" episode with the grey goo human replacement terminators, whatever those movies were called.

Aliens 3 & 4 were dogshit phone-it-in plots designed to rape the box office, but they're utter shit with the latest bigger bad as the primary protagonist. Romulus is teens-in-space, and therefore dogshit garbage.

>>212233155
>all movies must be filmed on location, no exception.
You'll need at least one faster-than-light drive then, and a time machine. Better get to it.

>>212233949
I am sorry

>>212233962
Decent opinions.

Owl beh bach.

>>212231384
I don't see any mention of a strong women leading the survivors?

The best way for Terminator to be good is to explore how you may think shapeshifting liquid metal robot pussy is good, but it really isn't, it'll just drip and get stuck inside your urethra and it'll feel like passing a kidney stone. Instead you should go with a T900 model which is living tissue over hyperalloy combat chassis. The Terminator synthetic living tissue is both fast regenerative, perfectly mimics human physiology and is made of organic matter. But its established the blood isn't real blood, no red blood cells, so they cut corners when it's not feasible or necessary. So the terminator vagina has to look like the real thing, have fake fluids to simulate real ones, and even grow back if it is destroyed.

That's kinda crazy when you think about it, that mean between the interior labia are things like the hymen, a fake urinal tract, and even a fake nub of flesh called the clitoris. But no smegma? And she doesn't have a period either. Meaning it's always clean, but looks exactly like the way a real tight little pussy should, with little goosebumps on the exterior labia and it is even contracted by the cybernetic muscle mechanisms. And if the clitoris is rubbed the cyborg must be aware and has sensors to enable a simulated response. There is even a butthole right behind the vagina, a butthole that leads absolutely nowhere.

That's crazy bros. It's like living tissue but it's on a hyper alloy chassis. And there's a vagina right between her legs. She has synthetic vagina with synthetic labia and synthetic hymen and synthetic clitoris and synthetic urinal tract AND a synthetic butthole. It's weird because there is a metal endoskeleton hyperalloy combat chassis inside, and you can even see it if you open the vagina. And if you accidentally rip it open, that's okay, it regenerates from all the pancakes she consumes. Fucking unreal.

>>212227437 (OP)
They should have jumped into postapocalyptic after 2.

>>212227437 (OP)

Not really. There was one story that could have been used to complete the trilogy if it had been made back in the 90´s but everyone is too old to make it happen now.

>INB4 make it with AI

A terminator movie? scripted, directed and starred by skynet itself? Are you mad?

>>212227437 (OP)
I had an idea where there are multiple AIs (Skynet, MIR, Legion, Kokoro) in the future fighting each other and humanity but I doubt any new TM movie be done well these days.

>>212231902
>T-800 never ran anywhere either to my recollection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3hGMgd2X14
he runs at the 4 minute mark but you have to watch the whole scene because i said so.

>>212227437 (OP)
not with crazy kikes writing the scripts
the problem with the sequels was that they were so badly written it was impossible to take anything seriously

>>212227437 (OP)
Not as long as Hollywood's approach to old franchises is to continuously raise stakes. It needs to go back to basics and make more personal refined stories. They don't know how to keep it simple.

>>212239437
Keeping it simple doesn't rake in the money. The critics bad mouth it, other viewers say it's too much of the same, and it does poorly. Which sucks for regular fans who don't need it to get exponentially biggerer every time. We have to turn to games and comics instead to keep it simple