This was the greatest entertainment to ever air on television.

>>212239504 (OP)
Fraid not.

>>212239504 (OP)
Ruthless Aggression>Attitude Era

>>212239504 (OP)
Kevin Nash's attitude changed when he got ruthlessly raped with aggression during the sizzling high humidity summer of '92

>>212239871
It was good but I wouldn't go that far. People are definitely coming around to RA as a great era. The Batista vs Taker feud in 2007 was great stuff.

>>212239871
>>212240337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pvm31KMhDg

>>212239504 (OP)
>/pw/ is so shit that anons are forcing this shit on here daily

>>212240449
/pw/ is so finished. you can't, for the life of you, talk about wrestling in any way that isn't waifufagging or AEW/WWE tribalist insanity.

>>212239504 (OP)
If I want to show someone why wrestling is great, I'd show them Kurt Angle vs The Rock storyline in No Mercy in 2000.

>>212240489
Yeah I know. That's why I stick to generals and avoid everything else

>>212240328
Was it particularly humid, that summer of 1992?

>>212239504 (OP)
97 is the best year, or just mania 13 to 14

Attitude wasn't really all that great. I can count the number of great funds with my fingers and also remember tons of stupid/wasted storylines (Higher Power being the most obvious example) while Ruthless Aggression had a barrage of great feuds and storylines out the gate and it kept going like that until Benoit and PG.

>>212239871
Not a chance

>>212241035
It's always Zillenials saying this.

>>212241035
Don't you mean no chance in hell?

>>212239871
>Ruthless Aggression
Zoomer spotted

>>212240337
>People are definitely coming around to RA as a great era
yeah zoomers nostalgic for thier childhood

I havent watched wrestling in such a long time. Used to enjoy it. Rec me some matches/events to watch.

>>212239504 (OP)
Pro wrasslin' peaked with the 92 rumble. 2000s entertainment was just seeing how far they could go with the degeneracy . I don't watch attitude era stuff back because I know it would make me cringe with all the try-hard shock value but I can still appreciate wholesome golden era

>>212239504 (OP)
It's amazing how after all these years gaytch is still a self mark faggot who thinks he can stand alongside the all time greats.

>>212240328
KWAB

Shoot fight: Andre at his peak vs Lesnar at his peak, who wins?

>>212241448
>smark bitch calls Hunter a smark
lol lmao even
probably a tony shill

>>212239504 (OP)
I actually watched the entirety of the attitude era through some twitch stream some years back and I must say, it was very comfy and kino viewing experience. Shit was just built differently back then. What a time to be alive

>>212241491
Lesnar.

>>212241506
Nah I hate gayEW.

>Undertaker throwing mankind off the cell, and then powerbombing in concussed ass through the cell
>Undertaker running a brainwashing satanic cult that used McMahon's daughter as a human sacrifice
>Big Boss Man force-feeding Al Snow his dead dog
>Stone Cold holding up a gun to McMahon's head and making him piss himself in the middle of the ring
>roughly 500 chair shots in Rock v Mankind's I Quit match
>Hardy Boys vs Dudleyz TLC matches
>pregnant Mae Young
>hardcore matches
it makes anything before, and after, the Attitude Era seem like absolute shit for stupid babies.

>>212241491
Andre would likely be drunk and Brock would take him down easily. In his prime, with few or no joint issues, Andre would likely not even be over 400lbs

>>212240527
Great storyline. you had two of the best promo cutters of the time and a great interwining of multiple good storylines. If someone on /tv/ wants to get into classic product TH14 is a great source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI6DIc981VI

>>212241612
I sometimes lay awake at night thinking what the product would be like if Shane was as cutthroat as Steph and usurped Vince back in the 2000's

>>212241617
>Brock would take him down easily
Lesnar couldn't even take down a basic kickboxer like Overeem.

The man is all hype, he beat up one Korean can which got him a UFC contract and slapped around an ex-PRIDE fighter one minute away from retirement before being gifted a UFC title fight against a 60 year old Randy Couture

>>212241506
>defending triple nose

>>212241891
I do hate the current product under Hunter and think he's a horrific booker but disputing his status as an all-time great is pure smark bitchery.

>>212241913
An all time great isn’t the guy that gets carried through feuds and big matches.

>>212241873
Kurt said Brock would regularly take down Big Show when he was over 500lbs. Ubereem was no joke either, and he would also beat up Andre

>>212241913
Cunter fucked steph so big daddy vince would push him to the moon because he got tired of carrying everyone's bags in the kliq. Vince is a shoot retard and actually fell for it eventually letting gaytch get a big chair in the company and we are where we're at now.

>>212240489
Still Vince

>>212242214
>Ubereem was no joke either
his jaw is probably the weakest in the HW division, and Lesnar was hyped as this unstoppable wrecking ball. if Bigfoot Silva was able to knock him out surely Lesnar could've done the same.

>>212241612
>it makes anything before, and after, the Attitude Era seem like absolute shit for stupid babies.

It was

>>212241612
I liked the tag team with the pimp and the gigolo. I think there was a team of vampires too. Do they even play characters anymore?

>>212242378
Overeem moved to heavyweight because it has a lower skill bracket in principle. It compensated for his cracked chin. He used to be a 205er if you recall

>>212240328

>>212240598
Fraid' so.

>>212242515
>The HARDEST most ROCKIN hardcore METAL songs of 2002!
>and Our Lady Peace

>IT WAS ME AUSTIN

wrestling needs more midgets

Not enough hosses once Vader left I'm afraid. What's the point in watching wrestling if it's not to see massive cunts bumping into each other?

>>212242348
Everything about him and Steph is enough to discredit H's legacy completely.

>>212242921
Wrestling is overrun with weak faggot geek manlets. The age of real men in wrestling is long over.

>>212239504 (OP)
>WWF
>good

>Attitude era baiting is the only memorable moment to come out of E in the last 18 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXFGFWsFsLg

>>212242945
he was already being given a mega push and was world champ multiple times before he got with steph. the whole reason he got put with steph on tv in the first place was because he was in a main event feud with vince

>watch le Nip wrestling dude it's so heckin wholesome and le good and le soulful
>it's abhorrent garbage

>>212239871
RA never had a year where both Smackdown and Raw were both great shows. It was either Raw was ass and Smackdown was great or vice versa. Attitude Era was the better era despite on paper talent wise Ruthless Aggression was stronger.

>Divas

>>212239504 (OP)
yes

>>212241241
Most of El grande americanos matches have been entertaining. Try the 6 man money in the bank ladder match last month

>>212241612
I thought the gun to the head was too much

>>212241626
Watching this now, very kino. I think watched these live but I started losing interest after 2000/01 ish.

>>212240427
PERVERTED SEX!

>>212241612
I liked Kane

>>212242630
never gonna forget the time vince gave that poor woman the cleveland steamer

>>212239504 (OP)
pure late 90s kino

>>212243112
He was world champion twice in 1999, the year he got with Steph, and both were short reigns. He was never champion before that.

His first world title loss was to Vince, btw.

>>212243821
Always wanted to see her t----------s

>>212244326
2002 was pretty good but you could definitely feel the drop in quality in the card. also the whole draft fucked up the two big shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU9yTHjpkJw

One thing that's still pretty good lately is the women. Also love Bron breaker

>>212244641
2002 is alright but the effort in production and trying to put on an entertaining show isnt nearly what it was from 98-99. Watch how many backstage shit that was good in 98 and 99, that shit disapperead by 2000

>>212244641
I can't remember the last RAW I ever watched back then. I felt like the McMahon Helmsley era was getting stale, none of my friends watched it anymore so it stopped being "cool" because we were all older and in high school at that point.

I definitely didn't watch the car explosion and Benoit shit. I think I quit during the invasion or just before it.

>>212239504 (OP)
the intros

https://youtu.be/GZN3cNxYW2o?si=xoS2SHNSYzgcF4Nr&t=68

>>212244326
2001 was a weird year that had a great WM but they switched Austin heel and and then turned him into a cartoon character so they could have backstage antics between him, Vince and Angle. The WCW invasion turned a lot of fans off.

For me the on/off cycle was 96-99, 02-05, then a huge skip to 15-17 before giving up. I only watch Wrestlemania every year.

I distinctly remember the last good year of WWE being 2007 with Batista and Undertaker feud on Mania.

>>212239871
>>212239504 (OP)
I really love the way that everything looked in the Attitude Era. That smokey/hazy look of the arenas and the more ad hoc look of the ring and fan areas. It was the perfect mix of high production value plus that sort of rag tag look about it. Perfectly fit the atmosphere they were going for where everything felt like your older cousin was showing you something you werent supposed to be watching.

I watched an episode of Raw on netflix recently and everything was just so polished and way too clean. I get that they want as many viewers as possible, but the charm of this stuff is its sleazy/low browness and trying to make it super sanitized ends up ruining it and at the end of the day, the people that the WWE really wants to view it are never going to anyway.
>>212243821
The Tori Wilson forced lesbian extortion sex plot line was kino

>>212244743
if you play raw 2 for the original xbox enough you will hate this song as i do

>>212245408
Modern WWE definitely isn't great but I feel they're trying hard to capture some of that retro excitement with big feuds, crazy run ins, and intense moves. The El grande americano stuff has me rolling too

>>212239871
t. The mayor of planet retard

>>212245571
It's late-stage mediocrity. Bringing back flashes of Attitude (the Rock/Cody blading angle, some F-bombs here and there, FinalBoss storyline) but it's all pathetic and just shows the product is FINISHED and has been since 2008.

>>212245571
It's soulless slop for children you fucking retard.

>>212239871
I like how John Cena is the one who first used "Ruthless Aggression" when he was that lame cyborg character and no one gave a shit about him, only for him to go onto become the biggest guy of that era. I really liked his dark wigger heel character though. He reminds me of Triple H of a guy who went through several very different personas but transitioned between them pretty smoothly and seamlessly

Also, I remember watching some tv documentary about up and coming wrestlers (not Beyond the Mat) as a kid in like 2000 and John Cena was one of the guys in it before he was famous, anyone know the name of it?

Vince McMahon escaped federal charges more times than any other guy his status and got away with so much shit only to be undone by a smear campaign by Stephanie and Hunter just to get him out of the company.His worst crime, after all the shit he did? Having fetishes and maltreating some despicable prostitute. Jesus. He practically had 9 lives and went down in the most lowly way.

>>212245685
I'm 30 but I'm also not a crushed bitter adult so I still manage to enjoy fun productions. Helps that I live a great life

>>212245685
Lol no. Wrestling is for adults, same as videogames, superhero movies and the rest. kids like and follow nothing cause they're dumb kids.

>>212243821
She was such a slutty bitch. She must have gargled Vince's nuts good.

>>212245814
>Steph and Hunter expose Vinces scat and cuck fetish for a literal whore he hired just to fuck
>refuses to step down
>Steph and Hunter ready to take over his spot
>Vince decides to sell the company to TKO at the last second
>Then he steps down
>Steph and Hunter are now just the managers for the WWE property which is owned by TKO
Based Vince going out on top no matter what.

>>212246000
Vince is a hero. Always was. Always will be.

>>212246000
>>212246070
Love Vince to the bitter end. He created wrestling and it's fitting that it will die with him.

>>212239504 (OP)
Clearly you are not enough to remember the late 80s and early 90s when every wrestler had a proper gimmick.

Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Legion of Doom, Earthquake, Million Dollar Man, Macho Man Randy Savage, Yokozuna, Jake the Snake Roberts, Sergeant Slaughter, Repo Man, IRS, Isack Yankem, Koko B. Ware, the British Bulldog, Brutus the Barber Beafcake, The Gay-Lord, The Bush Wackers, Brett the Hitman Heart, The Rim-Job, Kane, the Undertaker...

All the greats came from that era.

Attitude was when the imagination went out of it, when wrestlers started to say
>what if my gimmick is... i have no gimmick
As if they were trying to be Seinfeld of something. Lazy fuckwits.

>>212246229
Very true. The wheels were definitely coming off by 96. It was unwatchable shortly after 2000 and even that's being generous. Higher Power alone was embarrassing garbage.

One time Brock Lesnar demolished a one legged kid in front of his mom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lALJxu9AXA

>>212246229
>>212246287
>>212245903
>>212245685
>>212245571
The reality is that the rise of UFC and Marvel movies is what led to WWE's downfall. Both of these things syphoned off their audience into a better version of what it was trying to be. Marvel movies for those who liked the larger than life, comic book tier characters and story lines and UFC for those who liked the outlandish violence

>>212239871
zoomers don't deserve human rights

>>212246229
People still had characters/gimmicks in the Attitude Era - Val Venis, The Godfather, Kane, The Brood, etc. Where it went to shit was when they started pushing HHH over more entertaining wrestlers. Funny enough, HHH is also creatively in charge of WWE now in its current shitty era.

>>212243821
i remember nutted to her loading screen in smackdown! 2 on PS

>>212246402
Superheroes are cringe (especially marvel) and UFC isn't remotely similar to wrestling which is much more about characters and fanfare than fighting

>>212239871
Ruthless was so unrelentingly shit that I quit watching for years. That's the first time I quit, and the second was shortly after HHH took over creative. I thought for years that he would be phenomenal at the job but it quickly became apparent he was utter shit. From what I've seen online, lots of people are finally realizing that. Vince was the last carny in the business, and the business died when he was ousted. Now it's just marks in charge. M

>>212246872
>Vince was the last carny in the business, and the business died when he was ousted.
Kinda like Big Harv. If you want good entertainment you need the sleaze, simple as. People are either going to have to accept that or cope with bland, soulless gruel forever.

>>212246872
Vince was King of the Carnies.

>>212241612
>Undertaker was “dead” for like, a month and gets resurrected
>shawn Michaels’ returns just to fucking troll everyone
>golddust has the gayest and most spectacular intro of anyone
>stone cold hosing Vince down with beer like a fucking riot patrol

Lmao god damnit I miss those years

>>212246229
I mean that shit was great, but what made Attitude era better was it appealed more to common folk. Stone Cold had a similar tamed, long haired thing going before attitude, but reinvented as the no-nonsense beer swilling redneck. Shawn Michaels was the pretty boy model, and resurrected as the dirtbag ring leader of a crew of knuckleheads asking you to suck their dicks. The Rock was the quiet muscle of Nation of Domination, but broke out as the quick witted, “fuck you, fuck your bullshit, fuck these fans and fuck this town” heel, but with a cool ass haircut and sunglasses. Mick Foley and Undertaker and Kane were fringe wrestlers before attitude era and they fit right into the new program. Dudes that got lost in the fray were like, the Harts. Brett had beef and Vince fucked the whole family over and didn’t come up with any cool stories for them (hence Blue Blazer being Owen’s “gimmick” when he died, fucking sad desu). Yes, the face paint and loud undies and tassles era was based, but attitude brought it down to the nitty gritty.

>>212239871
many are saying so

>>212247402
Vince destroyed the carnies and usurped the wrestling business for himself

Is Big Wrestling dead?

>>212240489
Rangebanning the Irish cripple would fix everything overnight.

Any anons used to have matches on their trampolines?

>>212251151
i would end my matches with a shoot gore off the trampoline to the smallest kid in the fed

>/pw/ has become so bad that refugees have fled to establish daily neat wrasslin threads on /tv/
based

>>212239871
Trvke

>>212251615
too much autism

>>212251615

>>212239504 (OP)
1997 is better than attitude

>>>/pw/18131327

>>212239871
Get a load of this retarded faggot.

>>212240328
didn't happen, jabroni

>>212240698
attitude storylines were mostly trash, but the talent was top tier

>>212240489
>/pw/ is so finished. you can't, for the life of you, talk about wrestling in any way that isn't waifufagging or AEW/WWE tribalist insanity.
This. Here's a pic of the insanity going on over in that shithole.

>>212246229
Maybe I just grew up in the intervening years, but the Attitude era ironically felt more clean cut and polished than that time period. Most of those guys came across as actual genuine sleazebags fucked up on every imaginable narcotic and steroid under the sun. Which is what made it great.

>>212251615
Console wars killed /asp/, peedub was doa

>>212249619
>Rangebanning the Irish cripple would fix everything overnight.
Is this some Rovert/Trevor/Hogwheels reference you retarded faggot? 99% of people don't know who the fuck you're talking about.

>>212251151
It felt like every week from 2000-2004 someone showed up to school in a cast

>>212240698
>Attitude wasn't really all that great.
You're retarded
>Austin/McMahon
>Undertaker/Kane
>DX
>Austin/Hart Foundation
Every show was must see tv. Now you have to watch 6 hours of shit every week.

>>212251953
kek you from the midwest or south?

>>212239504 (OP)
Why did WCW lose against the attitude era? Is there a good Netflix style documentary somewhere on this?

people talk a lot about Vince's booking but when I look at old clips and episodes half the time its his general presence that enhances the content, him walking out huffing and puffing yelling and doing those wild facial expressions and rants are worth much more than any booking, that royal rumble that he fought in where he beats Stone Cold is a special memory, they actually make him look old man strong and the whole thing is entertaining as hell

>>212252001
>Why did WCW lose against the attitude era? Is there a good Netflix style documentary somewhere on this?
Lots of youtube vids and some great books. But WCW lost because of huge guaranteed contracts + NWO storyline going on forever. Starrcade 97 Sting/Hogan was the first "what the fuck is this shit" reaction from WCW fans. Finger poke of doom finished it all off.

>>212252001
the recent netflix documentary on Vince Mcmahon covers this well and it even includes tons of wrestlers saying that Vince was key to their success

>>212242483
>I think there was a team of vampires too.
Hell yeah brother. Gangrel, and his clique called The Brood which mostly consisted of Edge and Christian who had more success in their career. They were also part of the Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness.

Perfect for a kid that would grow up goth.

>>212251971
>DX
one for the first t-shirts to get banned from our schools because of vulgar indecent language and prophanities. Kids were wearing them and doing the "suck it" groin cross chop all over the playground

>>212252088
>and it even includes tons of wrestlers saying that Vince was key to their success
This is fucking nonsense. Most successful wrestlers got over on their own and Vince wrecked many careers with dumb shit like the GobbledyGooker or the Red Rooster
>Austin was "The Ringmaster" and he was low card so Vince didn't care that he came up with Stone Cold. Vince even rejected the 3:16 on the WWF Magazine after the King of the Ring
>DX was created as on screen Kliq
>Rock was "Rocky Mayavia" and had to do what Austin did and make his own shit away from Vince and creative

>>212252001
>Why did WCW lose against the attitude era?
They lost because they got sold to WWF. Wrestling has ups and downs. If WCW was alive (and not being run like total garbage) it would be have been beating WWF in 2002 (Austin and Rock mostly gone, ratings dropping a lot)

/tv/ should have a /wrestling/ general thread. The discussions here are so much better than on /pw/.

>>212252050
>Starrcade 97 Sting/Hogan was the first "what the fuck is this shit" reaction from WCW fans
What happened there?

The only fucking thing that is memorable about the Attitude Era in modern culture is the Rock and Stone Cold feud. That's literally it. Nobody cares that Kane used to wear a mask or who steroid junkie was banging which diva.

Ruthless Aggression set the standard for what modern wrestling fans want in a product. And that was over 20 years ago when Zoomers were in diapers so dont get your feathers all rustled you gen X faggots. Cena, HHH, Orton, American Badass Undertaker, Eddie Guerrerro, etc all thrived in the RA era. It was simply better TV.

>>212252001
WCW couldn’t stick the landing. The only thing they had going for them was NWO vs wwf who had tons and tons of awesome groups and teams, duos, and storylines, which produced metric shit tons of merch and profit. I remember seeing a bunch of Sting and NWO properties on Merch, but when it came to WWF, I saw the rock, stone cold, undertaker, Kane, DX, Dudley boys, brood, mankind, chyna, Sable. Etc etc. it had such a wide breadth. WWF attitude era was so fucking legitimate than Chris Jericho became MUCH more of a household name when his corny ass came over from WCW. I just don’t think WCW writers and producers committed and believed in the product as much

>>212251909
That's kinda funny though but the meme died quick

>>212240598
Sweltering.
sultry.

>>212252027
Vince is legitimately a top fucking tier performer, even his occasional matches tended to work because they were scripted to shit and he didn't mind blading or taking a bump and he was so fucking over

Is it just me or has social media really destroyed the monster wrestler concept. Undead horrors akin to Kane shouldn't have fucking twitter

>>212252788
and when he takes off the suit he's jacked to fucking shit lol

HELL IN THE CELL WAS 27 YEARS AGO.
and it’s never been surpassed. no other event has even come close.

>>212252807
have you tried not looking at wrestler's twitters

>>212252644
Was it just because they dragged out the NWO storyline too much? Like for a while it seemed like WCW had all the momentum and was kicking the Shit out of WWF, when exactly did it turn?

>>212252001
I've heard the death of WCW covered so fucking often that I'm sick of hearing it, also the screwjob and benoit murders fall into this category

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDbWm4RPp10

>>212252865
It's the principle of the matter

>>212252882
WCW started doing the edgy stuff first, so WWF and macmahon drafted up a whole new set of storylines to compete (which subsequently made Macmahon an IRL asshole villain because he literally flipped the script on Bret Hart). It caught like wildfire and he paid attention and the writers kept it thorough and gave each wrestler star power (vs WCW that focused more on big matches with “big” names) WWF gave fans a huge gallery of superstars to root for.

>>212252882
There are a lot of factors but it's generally agreed that they spent way too much fucking money on contracts (look em up the numbers are nuts) while allowing the big main event stars to do whatever they wanted leading to stale shit that never paid off, crashing their ratings and buyrates with no survivors until their parent company decides to sell them to WCW for pennies
the specifics of these could be debated at length for hours

>>212253139
sell em to WWF I mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KqNg-Jahgc

https://youtu.be/UMtx9s9RTmc?si=tQ351ee8uw4CrNy5

I know people say the attitude era started in 97, but I think this was really the birth of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j9KFh_5cDs

>>212253282
it's fuzzy because early AE is a whole different kettle of fish from insane russo booking in '99 where old ladies are giving birth to hands and val venis is getting his cock chopped off by some angry japs that speak in badly dubbed english

>>212253282
Spot on anon. Honestly they realized they needed to allow more creativity than just the frilly neon tassles n shit. Gold Dust is royalty.

>>212252461
>What happened there?
They built up Hogan vs Sting for like 18 months. For all those months Hogan and the NWO were tormenting Sting, but Sting would either fight back or show up in the crowd in the arena and just stare at them. One of the most epic build ups ever. The plan was for Sting to win the title clean from Hogan at Starrcade (which the Wrestlemania of WCW). But the day of the event, Hogan says "That doesn't work for me brother" and him and Eric Bischoff write this ending where Hogan beats Sting, but then Bret Hart (fresh off the Montreal Screwjob) shows up and says that the ref did a fast count (he didn't) and restarts the match and Sting wins. It was the very beginning of the end.

>>212251615
/pw/ doesn't ever talk about attitude era, they're all too young

>>212253282
i started watching 90s wwf recently and its weird when goldust debuted he was so much edgier than anything else that was going on at the time yet goldust only got more and more watered down as time went on i really dont get it

When did it start to decline for you anons? I remember caring less and less around the time they had popular bands remaking their songs. Not they they correlated, I just recall that being the time I stopped caring as much.

>>212239871
Absolutely fucking not.

>>212253332
>early AE
HOLY SHIT STEVE AUSTIN JUST SAID DAMN ON TELEVISION AND GAVE A CENSORED MIDDLE FINGER

>>212252520
>Ruthless Aggression set the standard for what modern wrestling fans want in a product.
And nobody watches the product. It's made for fucking internet geek marks on /pw/. Everything post Attitude Era has been garbage (the only saving grace of the RA era was HBK's return and guys like Eddie Guerrero).
> It was simply better TV.
The ratings collapsed and never came back. Look at where the first ep of Raw on Netflix is in the ratings chart and look at the current eps. The drop is shocking.

>>212253282
You can even see the crowd, like they are just completely stunned when he first walks to the ring. They are half heartedly booing him but like the crowd is just in awe and speechless by what they are seeing with the Golddust entrance. They had never seen anything like this.

>>212252818
>14 KB
> HELL IN THE CELL WAS 27 YEARS AGO.
> and it’s never been surpassed. no other event has even come close.
The Shawn Michaels/Undertaker first Hell in the Cell was better. Foley/Undertaker was a spot fest. It was insane and entertaining, but it wasn't that great.

>>212252882
>when exactly did it turn?
Finger poke of doom.

>>212253406
>The ratings collapsed and never came back.
not him but apparently the WWE is at attitude era levels of engagement right now. apparently they've turned it around some how. how? i don't know. to me wrestling can't be done without kayfabe and kayfabe is dead in the social media era.

>>212253168
Vince is one of the most kino human beings to ever live

>>212253406
I'm specifically talking about 2002-2008. Modern wrestling fans are like little faggot anime fans. RA had better ratings than the Attitude Era except for maybe 1999-2000. Character arcs were far better in RA. If we're being honest, wrestling has gotten very lame in the post-social media era and any who still watches it consistently is gay.

>>212253378
>When did it start to decline for you anons? I remember caring less and less around the time they had popular bands remaking their songs. Not they they correlated, I just recall that being the time I stopped caring as much.
As soon as they bought WCW they stopped caring and that's when the collapse began (and never recovered). WWF without competition just makes them lazy. Austin even walked the fuck out. Going PG and 10 years of Super Cena really drove the final nail into the coffin. Anything over the last 5 years is just the remaining fans bickering over nonsense. They are too young to remember that one point Raw would have 5 million viewers and Nitro would have 4.5 million on the same night. Today Raw is lucky to get 2.5 million.

What's with all the wrestling threads lately?

>>212253480
>not him but apparently the WWE is at attitude era levels of engagement right now. apparently
You're delusional. Back in the late 90s you saw NWO and 3:16 shirts everywhere. People know Austin, Rock, Hogan, Undertaker, NWO. People don't know who fucking Cody Rhodes or Gunther are. WWE makes more money than ever because of TV deals, but that's about it.

>>212253505
>. RA had better ratings than the Attitude Era except for maybe 1999-2000
So RA was coasting on the backs of the AE peak until it collapsed? You're delusional. RA was a big drop in ratings and relevance. Jim Ross on his podcast talked about how in 2003 the ratings were dropping so fast that they were regretting letting Austin do the heel turn that he wanted.

>>212252520

>Chyna
>Crotch chops & "suck it"
>Mankind thrown off the cell
>Vince in the hospital bed
>JR & King on commentary

This shit is enshrined Americana at this point. RAW was seen by 8 million people per show.

>>212253583
>What's with all the wrestling threads lately?
It should be encouraged. Wrestling is a tv show. And /pw/ is nothing but 30 autists posting the same posts and insults over and over.

>>212239504 (OP)
Found the AEW tranny.
No Milly?
No womb?
No eggs?
No father figure growing up?

>>212253560
wtf
did vince browse here?

>>212239504 (OP)
I loved the psx1 game, used emulator on my shitty pc and at the time was the most fun I had on a game, me and my brothers played the shit out of that game.
stopped watching it wen it turned from wwf to wwe, fuck that new garbage.

>>212253645
Also
>Shawn Michaels reading the letter from USA network on air
>Austin bleeding in Bret sharpshooter
>Austin beer truck
>Austin zamboni
>Kane debut
>Rock throwing Austin off a bridge

>>212240489
Ojima sisters....

take a bump

>>212253670
>Found the AEW tranny.
Take it to /pw/ faggot. Your kind isn't welcome on the based /tv/ wrestling threads.

https://youtu.be/BNgQJ0J0WUo?si=xvk2xB6zHKngepEb

>>212253733
Go back to watching The Bear you stupid AEW tranny. A rerun of Guardians of the Galaxy gets more viewers than Dynamite.

i liked the early ruthless aggression era (never watched during the attitude era), at least smackdown. smackdown on upn era was so great. and it was on free network tv, compared to raw on the new tnn and spike, with triple h doing his god awful reign of terror opening every show with a 20 minute egomaniacal snoozefest then burying everyone and forming evolution to further bury everyone. god raw in like 2003-2005 was unwatchable dog shit. and now apparently he runs wwe and has made it absolute shit, only caring about plastering the ring in ads and making events ridiculously expensive to price out fans so he can grab about the gate receipts. fuck triple h i wish that heart attack killed him

>>212253499
agreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APrPDwUosrQ

YOU'VE DONE IT NOW

>>212253332
It was like 5 years passed between spring of '97 and summer of '98.

>>212253657
nta but if we start having generals on the front page and flamewars about twitter opinions they should ban wrestling on sight here
i will allow nash threads because he's an actor and i find them hilarious

>>212241612
>Cactus Jack v HHH street fight
>Hardyz v Dudleyz table match
>Mae Young's wrinkly old granny titties
>Jerry Lawlers screams
>Rikishi & Too Cool dancing in the rumble match

Royal Rumble 2000 will always be special to me as it was the first PPV I watched "live" on Channel 4. Good fucking times.
Can still picture Mae Young's old granny tits ffs

I remember at Backlash Channel 4 had it on a delay so they could censor blood and naughty words, which made no fucking sense as it was on well past the watershed.

>>212253777
Smackdown always sucked. They marketed it as a unique more “action packed” slot that was supposed to continue storylines, but it ended up just being more filler shit like Sundays

>>212239504 (OP)
No Milly???

>>212253838
that was only true after the attitude era when they split up the rosters

>>212253809
That MSG set with the taxi is the best set WWF ever did. Modern stadium Wrestlemanias included.

>>212253772
>Go back to watching The Bear you stupid AEW tranny. A rerun of Guardians of the Galaxy gets more viewers than Dynamite.
Nah, I'll just watch pre-2000 wrestling and watch you seethe because the product you worship is fucking garbage.

>>212253838
there are certain years there where smackdown is a proper other brand with its own contained rosters, storylines and for a while there PPVs
like in 2002, people reckon it was way fucking better than Raw which was the HHH show

>>212253838
>>212253869
>>212253932
bullfucking shit. the pre-benoit murder smackdown was awesome. what a roster. like in 2003. angle, lesnar, guerreros, undertaker, big show, mysterio, cena, edge, jbl and farooq, mark henry, the rock ,rikishi and scotty2hotty tag team,, tajiri, shelton benjamin and charlie hass tag team

tell me smackdown sucked, then, fuck you

>>212253847
Millie Bobby Brown is a huge wrestlehead bro, goes to every shindie in tinseltown

>>212253838
Bischoff in WCW hated Thunder (Turner forced him to do it) and even Kevin Nash acknowledged that it played a hand in WCW's downfall because it was just too much tv. WWF then did the same fucking shit. 2 hours of Raw + 1 hour of Sunday Night Heat (not necessary viewing, but a nice segue into PPVs) was perfect. Now it's 2 hours+ for both shows.

>>212253909
Lol AEW tranny is seething because a rerun of Psych or Monk destroys Dynamite any week. Also what happened to AEW Shockwave?

>>212253952
bro, pre-wcw buyout raw and smackdown were continuations.

>>212253952
shit and i forgot to add benoit to it.

and for this entire era, raw and smackdown were separate shows. and had separate pay per views.

>>212253712

>>212253988
>Lol AEW tranny is seething because a rerun of Psych or Monk destroys Dynamite any week. Also what happened to AEW Shockwave?
Nobody watches AEW. Again, go back to /pw/ where modern WWE is the best it's ever been. Threads like this thrive on /tv/ because retards like you are normally in your containment board.

>>212253977
>sunday night heat
god that shit sucked ass too. it was just the val venis show. wasnt there another show like that called velocity?

>>212254016
stop feeding the trolls and just talk wrestling with the boys lad

>>212254016
Sup Hogwheels no Milly for the Snowman?

>>212254029
Yeah, Velocity was the Smackdown equivalent. Heat could be really cool though because there'd be an episode taped before a PPV so you'd see the awesome big set and crowd, otherwise yeah it was just a heatless jobber show.

>>212253896
The second smackdown set with the fist comes close.
I wish they went back to custom sets like that though. Every one I've seen in the hd era is just stale copy-&-paste shit relying on flashy lights and led bars with no originality.

>>212254029
>god that shit sucked ass too. it was just the val venis show. wasnt there another show like that called velocity?
It was fine. As I said, not necessary to watch it (whereas both Raw AND Smackdown were necessary). They had show like Velocity, Shotgun, Jakked, but they aired late on Saturday nights and were mostly just jobbers and new talent matches.

>>212254042
ADAM SMALL SISTERS....

brehs look at the smack down roster from 2004

https://www.thesmackdownhotel.com/roster/?promotion=wwe&date=2004#smackdown

my god what an era that was

>>212254042
>stop feeding the trolls and just talk wrestling with the boys lad
Your right. But see shit like this: >>212254048
This is 99.999% of /pw/ posts. It's unreal.

>>212254082
the hurricane and cena were the beginning of the end

>>212254082
>>212254094

Moonbeam ice cream, taking off your blue jeans. Dancing at the movies, 'cause it feels so Mystical, magical.

>>212253952
RVD was the only reason to watch Raw in 03. Became the Evolution show. Boring as fuck. Orton is still just as boring 20 years later.

>>212254069
>The second smackdown set with the fist comes close.
That was the hand that Mae Young gave birth to.

>>212254094
Reminder Vince is into BBC.

I HATE that current WWE has 2 fucking World Champions. Stupidest fucking shit ever. There should be 1 guy at the top. Only 1.

>>212252520
>Cena,
for zoomer babies
>HHH,
balding HHH worst HHH
>Orton,
generic wrestler with no character
>American Badass Undertaker,
Worst Undertaker
>Eddie Guerrerro,
generic wrestler with no character, but mexican

>>212254188
Fuck off back to AEW then bitch.

>>212254195
>>Eddie Guerrerro,
>generic wrestler with no character, but mexican
I agree with everything except this. He was a great wrestler with lots of charisma. Austin wanted to work with him for a reason.

>>212254140
it was literally called the triple h reign of terror era. yeah it was abysmal. and randy orton has always been boring as shit i dont know why hes sso beloved. his voices in my head shit is so gay

>>212239504 (OP)

Why hasn't Rovert squealed in this thread yet? Did he kill himself?

>>212239504 (OP)
Yes

>>212254188
I stopped caring whe U realized in actual sports there's like 5 world champions even in the same company in the same weight division. They need to get rid of some of the mid card belts imo

>>212254212
>>212254250
Why do you faggots have to ruin good threads? I know, I know "AEW TRANNY MILLY NO DIMES KWABOTY"

Who had the weirdest/goofiest gimmick and why was it Val Venis?

>>212254250
leave your /pw/ namefaggotry on /pw/ you fucking nonce i am so sick of you faggots

>>212254275
>I stopped caring whe U realized in actual sports
Stopped reading right there. Wrestling isn't an actual sport, it's a show, it's entertainment. Having 2 world champs is fucking retarded. And you're wrong about the sports. There's 1 World Series/Superbowl/NBA finals/Stanley Cup/Masters champ every year. Not fucking 2.

>>212254280
>>212254298

ALL EGOOOO
NO HEIGHT
NO BITCHES
MIDGET PAGE

>>212254195
Nah lowrider Eddy in 03/04 was dope. He was similar to Scott Steiner in that just as he finally got over as a character his body started breaking down.

I don’t remember much about wrestling other than watching it a lot as a kid but one thing I remember was Brock lesnar? i would challenge the audience where he would put his forearms underneath people’s armpits and intertwined his hands while shaking them and they would have to last a few minutes but most people get knocked out in just a few seconds i cannot remember what it was called or if it was really real maybe it was a different wrestler

TRVTH NVKE FACT:
Omega is a better technical wrestler, and more entertaining, than anyone in the WWF/WWE roster, ever. Nothing WWE has produced has ever got near to Omega / Okada works. And, frankly, everything on WWE before Punk’s pipebomb was a kiddy clown show.

>>212254286
>Who had the weirdest/goofiest gimmick and why was it Val Venis?
Val Venis wasn't weird or goofy. He was just another "job" gimmick and it was a pornstar. The wrestler (forget his real name) was great too.
The weirdest is probably Goldust or Beaver Cleavage. The goofiest? Doink or the Red Rooster.

Diesel's theme was the best pre attitude era theme and i won't consider any others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nvrcCC4NIU

>>212254356
that was chris masters with the master lock challenge

>>212254357
>>212254280

>>212254357
>Omega is a better technical wrestler, and more entertaining, than anyone in the WWF/WWE roster, ever.
Not better than Bret or Shawn.
>And, frankly, everything on WWE before Punk’s pipebomb was a kiddy clown show.
It's full on zoomer summer isn't it.

>>212254363
Ultimate Warrior's is untouchable. I've never heard a theme capture a character so well. I still can't believe Vince fired Jim Johnston.

>>212252197
Suck it is making a comeback in the NBA via Anthony Edwards and Joel Embiid. Warms my heart.

>>212254404
Shawn Michaels overselling hogan and humiliating him was probably the most entertaining thing on WWF; Bret was an excellent technical wrestler, but saddled with dead weight limited move chumps like Austin that he had to carry. Omega’s had better wrestlers to match up with, that he deliberately sought out; Brett was tied to contract and internal dictates. It would be really interesting if time travel was real and see, say, Brett v Omega at their height.

>>212252090
They also fucking hanged Big Bossman on live TV at WM15.

>>212254542
>and Joel Embiid
If there's one crybaby that should be telling others it's him. Makes me happy that he will never win a ring with the Sixers.

>>212254558
>Shawn Michaels overselling hogan and humiliating him was probably the most entertaining thing on WWF
That was a goof because Hogan was playing backstage politics with Shawn (which is what Shawn used to do). But Shawn's matches with Bret, Razor and Undertaker are top tier.
>Bret was an excellent technical wrestler, but saddled with dead weight limited move chumps like Austin that he had to carry.
You're delusional. Before Austin broke his neck he was one of the top wrestlers in the company. Their match at WM 13 is the greatest WM match of all time. Watch Bret vs Owen at WM (X or XI, I forget).
>It would be really interesting if time travel was real and see, say, Brett v Omega at their height.
This would be great, I agree.

>>212248376
It’s literally just zoomers.

>>212254570
Read in Adam Copeland's book that he was almost crushed when the cell was lifting up. Got a bit too close to the rafters I think

>>212254665
>Read in Adam Copeland's book that he was almost crushed when the cell was lifting up. Got a bit too close to the rafters I think
Don't worry, I'm sure nothing bad happened with ropes and the rafters to a WWF wrestler after that, right? R-right?

>>212254729
It's incredible that after all these years the footage hasn't been leaked.

>>212254729
It is crazy to think that Owen's death happened at the absolute height of wrestling's popularity. Couldn't have had more eyeballs on the product.

>>212253676
did? probably still is

>>212254811
If it even still exists.

>>212254852
I'll bet it does, somewhere.
Official footage probably exists in a vault somewhere.
As for fan footage, could be something out there.

>>212253560
>Vince McMahon was the original MADE FOR BBC poster

>>212254919
>As for fan footage, could be something out there.
It would have leaked by now. There have been a few fan photos, but back then there were no smartphones and videocameras were confiscated by security for all events (even the Curtain Call video even existing is shocking).

WAAAAAAAAOOW
YOU'RE ONLY SMOKE AND MIRRORS

>>212254641
>austin … one of the top wrestlers in the company

Kek. That’s why he spent 80% of his career jobbing, failed tag teams, desperate for midcard, getting dropped from contracts. Austin was a mediocre wrestler at best, he was only successful because of the Vince’s sales job of the “stone cold” character. People talk about Austin’s mic skills, but even Dwayne cut better promos.

>>212255009
>>videocameras were confiscated by security for all events
We're they confiscated before events?
I was guessing any camcorders were confiscated after the event to prevent any footage leaking out.

I
LOVE YOU
SOLO

>>212239504 (OP)
What happened to it? Shit now looks like it's catered towards absolute retards and children.

>>212255101
>We're they confiscated before events?
If they saw it, certainly. And usually if security/an usher, a WWF camera caught it, they would have sent someone to take it (until the event was over).
>I was guessing any camcorders were confiscated after the event to prevent any footage leaking out.
It was done to prevent piracy. If someone could record the PPV, leave the arena, and make copies with multiple VCRs it could be on the streets/flea markets that morning. If you watch old Raws they would only show still images from the PPV recaps because the PPV was still for sale to be watched and they also were going to release the official VHS soon after.

>>212255195
>What happened to it?
After Vince bought WCW he no longer had to put out the best product. Just good enough to keep his marks happy.

>>212254286
Braphog Natalya

good thread

bros where can i watch all the late 90s and early 00s raws now that the network is gone

>>212255079
>That’s why he spent 80% of his career jobbing
Are you fucking retarded? Austin was a very good wrestler (there are lots of very good wrestlers that don't make). And he wasn't a jobber for 80% of his career, faggot. He was in a successful tag team in WCW, then within a few months of getting to the WWF he was able to drop the Ringmaster gimmick, became Stone Cold, and won King of the Ring. Holy fuck you're retarded.
>getting dropped from contracts.
He was dropped from 1 contract....WCW...because he was hurt and WCW was only interested in established stars.
>Austin was a mediocre wrestler at best,
Watch WM 13 faggot. He was great and as I said one of the best in the company in the late 90s. Only Shawn and Bret were better (with similar star power).
>he was only successful because of the Vince’s sales job of the “stone cold” character.
You can apply this logic to almost any character. Scott Hall wouldn't have been as successful if he wasn't Razor Ramon, same with Hogan, same with Ultimate Warrior.
>People talk about Austin’s mic skills, but even Dwayne cut better promos.
Again, you're retarded. Rock was great, but he was more rhymes and catchphrases. Austin's promos were intense.

Created Attitude Era after watching Jerry Springer show. Most hated man in wrestling. Still think hilarious he created Brawl for All after Bradshaw claimed he could beat anyone up and he was a real fighter

>>212256183
Austin was a chump. Hogan was shit wrestler. He was a dumb kids cartoon character. Hall and Hellwig were slightly better. Randy Savage was a better wrestler at that time than all of them … better character too (and actor .. killed in spiderman and had legit voice acting work)

>>212239504 (OP)
You were 12 years old

>>212256162
Netflix unironically

>>212256277
>Still think hilarious he created Brawl for All after Bradshaw claimed he could beat anyone up and he was a real fighter
It was also sad.
>winner of Brawl for All to be put into a program with Steve Austin (even if this is only for a month and 1 PPV, the winner would probably make a million dollars)
>everyone backstage thinks Dr. Death Steve Williams will win (they had brought him in to feud with Austin anyway)
>Dr. Death gets hurt in the Brawl for All
>Bart Gunn wins the Brawl for All
>Bart Gunn is barely midcard so they tell him they won't put him in a program with Steve Austin
>Bart Gunn gets horrible internal organ damage from Brawl for All and his career is over soon after

>>212256518
>Austin was a chump
What does that mean? Yeah, that chump that was successful in WCW, ECW, and WWF and had top tier matches with Bret Hart.
> Hogan was shit wrestler.
No one said otherwise. He was a dumb kids cartoon character.
>Hall and Hellwig were slightly better.
Are you retarded? Hall was legit very good and Helwig was worse than Hogan.
> Randy Savage was a better wrestler at that time than all of them
I agree, but so what? You sound like a retarded faggot.

>>212256551
>Netflix unironically
There are only a select few on there and I'm sure they are edited (no DX doing The Nation I bet).

*glass shatters*

Give me the fucking microphone.
Listen up.
I'm sick and tired of all you loud ass entitled niggers running your mouths.
Every single day you come out here, you make the same damn posts. "Sneed" this, "built for BBC" that.
Well guess what I'm gonna do?
>WHAT?
I'm gonna take my mouse
>WHAT?
I'm gonna click on the post number
>WHAT?
I'm gunna start typing in the reply box
>WHAT?
I said I'm gunna start typing in the reply box!
>WHAT?
I'm gunna call you a nigger
>WHAT?
A pavement ape
>WHAT?
A porch monkey
>WHAT?
A no good son of a sheboon
>WHAT?
We're gunna start breaking some bucks
>WHAT?
I'm gonna solve that captcha
>WHAT?
The one with the fire hydrants
>WHAT?
The one with the stoplights
>WHAT?
The one with the bicycles
>WHAT?
The one with the cars
>WHAT?
The one with the busses
>WHAT?
The one with the CROSSWALKS
>WHAT?
I'm gonna click submit
>WHAT?
I said I'm gonna click submit!
>WHAT?
I'm gunna derail the thread!
>WHAT?
Send all you ungrateful broke bucks back to Africa
>WHAT?
That's right, I said I'll send you back!
>WHAT?
AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE
>WHAT?
CUZ STONE COLD SAID SO

>>212256693
WHAT? ruined Stone Cold.

>> BENOIT
>> CHRISTOPHER
>>DOB: 5/21/67
>>ATLANTA, GA
>>DATE OF ABSENTEE REQUEST: 9/21/20
>>BALLOT STATUS (RECEIVED!)

>>212256605
> Bart Gunn gets horrible internal organ damage from Brawl for All and his career is over soon after

No, then forced him to fight Butterbean his next match because JR was butthurt he beat his guy. Pure dick move but not surprising

So YESTERDAY, HAHA
I went to the polling station All the people in line were star struck and said
NATCHE! WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR CHAMP? WHOS GONNA WIN THE BIG ONE?
So I looked to the hot woman on my left arm
WOO
I looked to the other woman on my right arm
WOO
and looked down at my custom $600 LIZARD shoes
WOO
I looked back up at the people in line
WOO!
and I said:
THERES ONLY ONE MAN WHO HAS THE RESPECT OF THE NATCHA BOY! WOO!
And it's the AIR FORCE ONE FLYIN'
LIMOUSINE RIDIN'
PUSSY GRABBIN'
DEMOCRAT STABBIN'
WOO!
2 SCOOP CREAMIN'
TRADE DEALIN'
PANTY PEELIN'
SON OF A GUN
DONALD J TRUMP! WOO!

BECAUSE HES CUSTOM MADE HEAD TO TOE! JUST LIKE ME!
HE'S GOT THE MODEL WIFE! JUST LIKE NATCHE!

AND HES GOT FOUR MORE!
>takes off coat and throws on ground
I SAID FOUR MORE
>throws shoes at coat
I SAID 4 MORE!
>knee drops coat
FOUR MORE YEARS BABY!!
WOO!

>>212256674
they're not cutting shit out of every show dude and iirc it is the full show not a cut down version
ecw tho is pretty much unwatchable thanks the licensed music being replaced with generic themes that are awful

Makes out with Stephanie McMahon and she likes it.

>>212256518
>Hellwig were slightly better
You're a contrarian fag

>>212254362
>Beaver Cleavage
I remember that went over like a lead balloon so the greatest creative minds in the biz switched gears and made him a wife beater instead.

>>212256957
>they're not cutting shit out of every show dude
When Peacock got the network they literally went through every ep and made edits.
"Peacock's WWE Network library has undergone edits to remove or censor content that doesn't align with the platform's standards and practices. This includes removing racist and offensive segments, as well as muting homophobic slurs and blackface."

>>212256162
>>212256551
>>212256674
Is the piracy scene any good? I'd imagine looking for random of episodes of Raw is hard

>>212257053
>I remember that went over like a lead balloon so the greatest creative minds in the biz switched gears and made him a wife beater instead.
Wow, I don't even remember that.

>>212251151
We used to hit Hardy Boys flying shit like the Swanton bomb off the fkn roof of my house onto the trampoline. Nuts looking back on it now lmao

>>212252090
>the Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness.
Oh man I just remembered the giganigga Viscera.

>>212248370
Kek that oversell. Was Rock just trolling Austin?

>>212257828
That's Scott Hall so he most likely was trolling.
Rock just naturally oversold almost everything.

>>212246229
>Jake the Snake, The Rim-Job, IRS

Pretty sure you're making these up. I remember the Gay-Lord though, he was a great heal and his feud with The British Bulldog was legendary genuinely one of Mick Foley's best creations. You always knew that whenever a referee got knocked out or had his back turned that The Twink, The Gay-Lord's "aide du camp", would hand him the special candlestick. It was always a laugh when Jerry the king Lawler speculated upon where the Twink had been hiding it.

Although because of "the controversy" he was erased from all WWE material in 1994, which was a real shame.

>>212248370
>Dudes that got lost in the fray were like, the Harts.
This isn't true. The Hart Foundation's feuds with DX and Austin were amazing. Bret would have been a perfect Attitude Era heel (in 98 and 99, he already was one in 97).

>>212258339
>Pretty sure you're making these up.
You really don't know who Jake the Snake is? And IRS (Irwin R Sheister)?

>>212256799
Holy based.

>>212239504 (OP)
This shit was always fucking gay

What does /tv/ think of cm punk

>>212253785
based taker
>>212257326
this was peak LOLTNA

>>212259240
Overachiever. WWE treated him moderately well and made him rich.

>>212259240
A joke. He might be the first incarnation of the "modern wrestler" - a wrestler who just looks like an unremarkable guy who doesn't hit the gym.
I don't know how he gassed himself up into believing he could go into MMA but he made a fool of himself and further killed his credibility.

>>212239871
Absolutely not. Ruthless Aggression was a rapid return to everything that sucks about professional wrestling. Attitude Era was genuinely unpredictable and full of spectacle because McMahon was hungry to win the Wars. They made the brilliant call to drop the gay and stupid attempt to portray wrestling as a real sport where the fighters worried about winning and turned it into a red neck soap opera with the Undertakers evil brother coming back from the grave and Stone Cold and DX rebelling against the company. The focus wasn't on who was going to win the gay fake championship, it was all a bunch of memorable egotistical rednecks beating the shit out of each other. Wrestlers were literally dying in front of fans.

The Attitude Era was the best because it was the only (televised) era of wrestling where the focus wasn't on the make belief that it was real. As soon as WWF won the wars and returned to the tired Sports Entertainment aspect of wrestling everyone but the weird autists tuned out, and rightly so.

>>212240328
His brother got Nash's assailants back good though when he wrote the N word on Airforce One.

>>212240328
KWAB

>>212241491
Andre was just a tall fat dude. He was basically a cripple, could barely move, had to be high/drunk just to stay in the ring. He couldn't even lift the guys he was working with properly half the time. He worked because pre-1990s wrestling was cartoonish and he didn't look out of place since everyone was wrestling like drunken out of shape boomers at the family barbeque, but in a ring with even current day Lesnar Andre would look like a giant retarded baby slowly plodding around the ring while Lesnar zoomed around. It'd be embarassing to watch.

after watching the Attitude era again even back then triple Nose ruins it with his light reign of terror in 2000

>>212241448
HHH is easily one of the best heels in the history of the sport.

For me it, was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL6ND8PfJQ0

>>212260259
based Austin

>>212259908
Hey I watched that not too long ago, Road dogg and Billy GUn throwing MIck Foley and some other jobber

>>212239504 (OP)
is there any tape of owen hart falling splat?

>>212252001
They lost because they still tried to pretend wrestling was real. That shit was done by 1996. They held on for a few years on the backs of wrestling autists who liked how "pure" WCW was compared to the genuine entertainment WWE was unleashing with mass appeal but there's only so much shekels to be wrung out of those retards.

>>212260298
The Blue Blazer didnt fly so good

>>212248370
>It appealed to the common folk because everyone acted like a trashy retard from Jerry Springer
Please. 70s and 80s Memphis Wrestling was the working man wrestling promotion.
https://youtu.be/99N62akUqM4?si=1KIRaV6Aug1Zkxi5

>>212260259
The sound of the bedpan hit is cartoon level perfect.
According to Mick Foley, Steve Austin was walking around the hospital hitting himself in the head with it trying to find the sweet spot for the perfect sound.

Most Attitude Era fans are obnoxious retards who don't know anything about any other period of wrestling.

>>212239504 (OP)
I started watching again when Nash and Hall went to WCW and Hunter and DX turned up at TNT in a tank dressed as soldiers and I stopped watching around the time Cena joined.
The Attitude Era was the absolute peak of American entertainment, tits, ass, violence and rock music.

If you follow WWE you can basically track the peaks and downfall of America.

>>212260454
That sounds like something an obnoxious retard would say

>>212260407
kek, I believe it. That was peak, man.

Imagine caring about any era of wrestling beyond the only brief time it wasn't centered around being a retarded make belief sport with dogshit cartoon fighting.

I only watch Wrestlemania and not only has it gotten worse year after year but the fans continually get fatter, uglier, troonier, and more stupid looking every year.

THIS FIRE BURNS

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Ray Mysterio and Charvo, can't remember the year but it was either late 90s or 2000s. I think they did a cage match and the one where they need to pull the brief case full of cash down from the ceiling.

I miss him bros

Were they brothers?