We are fucked

>>212254044 (OP)
>niggerkino is back on the menu

>>212254044 (OP)
>AppleTV

Have they done literally anything good?

>>212254044 (OP)
Now they just need to create a time machine and release it 27 years ago. Nobody is going to care. It's like adapting Flash Gordon decades after Star Wars came out.

>>212254107
They literally ruined Asimov's Foundation

>>212254107
didnt they make the Ted Lasso s1

hahaha
hahahahahaha

>>212254164
Foundation was also one of the most famous Unfilmable Novels
Apple proved them wrong, they took it on with nothing but a quarter billion dollars and zero talent and brought us the most boring generic shitheap in the universe

Apple's Blood Meridian is inevitable

>>212254107
Apple TV isn't strictly bad, it's actually better than Amazon, but everything they make is listless and kind of soulless.
They need a real spark.

>>212254207
That's an extremely gay show

>>212254213
This bitch looks like halle berry looking for crack in blade runner LA

>>212254107
Slow Horses, that's it.

What's Neuromancer about? I remember the premise being interesting.

>>212254213
>Apple's Blood Meridian

>molly millions became a prostitute to get her nails did
>cast a sheboon to play her

>>212254044 (OP)
Is there anything as pointless as current day Cyberpunk. Especially once produced by faggot megacorpos.

>>212254420
>internet addict who can't go hacking anymore because of a medical issue
>gets approached by a dude who's putting together a team and promised the cure
>the job is to break into an AI
>space jamaicans

>>212254420
Hackers stealing shit. If you've ever been exposed to cyberpunk pretty much everybody else has ripped it off at this point.

>>212254420
>A washed up computer hacker is recruited by a mysterious blue eyed man as part of a team to rob an orbital space resort in exchange for a cure for his condition.
If this sounds like the plot to Cyberpunk 2077 it's because CDPR ripped off Neuromancer.

I'm more pissed about this than I should be
Molly Millions was the girl. Without Molly, there's no Trinity. There's no Lisbeth Salander. There's no Motoko Kusanagi. She's a titan of fiction and for her first onscreen depiction we get fucking Temu Tessa Thompson.

It was closer to the mark when Sasha Grey played her in a radio drama in 2009

>>212254213
>>212254482
I... am War

>>212254582
everybody in Cyberpunk has ripped of neuromancer to hell and back. Its basically LoTR for cyberpunk. All the tropes you come to associate with cyberpunk is probably from Sprawl Trilogy.

The Molly Millions casting is going to fuck this show like so many other similar casting choices in recent years. I wonder what other characters they're going to change/ruin. Is the space rasta too much of a racist caricature in current year?

>>212254866
We have a full cast already. Malcolm isn't there, which is weird because I guess his Bob Marley shit is racist like you said but as I recall he was also loyal, competent, and the most moral person in the heist crew, just an all around bro from that prior less insufferable version of liberalism

The names I recognize are Mark Strong as Armitage and Dane DeHaan as Peter Rivera, which are pretty damn solid. Oh, and the French chick from Harry Potter playing the space countess. The other notable raceswap is an old Morgan Freeman looking guy as Julius Deane, which honestly would have been fine since Deane's only attributes are "elderly" and "an asshole"

I'm guessing those episode counts gotta be wrong, like there's no way they make Ashpool appear in every episode unless they've completely rewritten the story. I mean I guess they could have done that and are going for the "Even less faithful adaptation than Johnny Mnemonic" award.

>>212254107
First few episodes of severance were good
That’s it
Everything else had been shit
Yes, even slow horses

>>212254213
That thranduil guy was a good casting choice but it’s like they were on a quality budget and they spent it all on him so everyone else on the show had to share a single soul between them

>>212254044 (OP)
What hipster over at Apple keeps buying the rights to great, but mainly forgotten books and making shit out of them?

>>212254213
>>212254044 (OP)
>that scene where the immediate first thing Case notices about Molly is how fucking ghostly pale she is
>that scene where Case sees Peter's "art" of Molly and comments that her nipples are way pinker than that irl
>that scene where Case idly wonders what color Molly's eyes are since she's never without her mirror lenses

did they seriously nig up molly millions?

>>212255313
Shaniqua Shekels
Erika EBT

>>212254213
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggghhhhhhhh COME ON

>>212255173
it's me

>>212254044 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

>>212254107
Your Friends & Neighbors

>>212254044 (OP)

The Black woman looks good here.

>>212254213

The Black woman does not look good here. Wtf Hollywood?

>>212254213
BUCC'D

This isn't even the first time Molly was going to be race swapped
Vincenzo Natali (the director of Cube and Splice) nearly got a Neuromancer movie off the ground and he had cast Mark Wahlberg as Case, Liam Neeson as Armitage and Pacific Rim's Rinko Kikuchi as Molly

>>212256030
At least an asian woman is still better than a sheboon

>>212254044 (OP)
ding ding ding ding ding

>>212256122
banana phone

William Gibson is rolling in his gra... oh wait. Fuck. Shit. Fuck.

>>212256163
William Gibson already spoke on the adaptation and my They Live glasses read it as "This is going to be absolute dogshit but they gave me a huge sack of money"

>>212254044 (OP)
I tried reading this novel but honestly it was too rambling, I didn't like it.

>>212256205
>i don't have veto power
>it's not going to be the story you experienced reading it
Not that I needed any more confirmation that it was fucked because I'm a noticer.

>>212256205
>4)
kek it's shit

>>212256205
4 is a death sentence, lmao

>>212254044 (OP)
I couldn't care less and i love that book

>>212254044 (OP)
motherfuckers didn't include Chris Cunningham? WTF?? that was his project, he owes us a KINO

>>212256397
Nigger nobody has heard from Chris Cunningham in 20 years

>>212255007
Honestly seems like they're holding back lol. Only 2 black people and they even made the girl one of those mixed race caramel blacks instead of actually black. I expected worse. Still not watching tho.

>>212256559
Hell, I'd nitpick Hideo
Why would you hire an Acting Chink and not a Kungfu Chink to play a guy who almost never speaks but is the toughest motherfucker in the solar system

Did Kungfu Chinks go extinct and that's why we're stuck with fossils like Donnie Yen and Tony Jaa

>>212256638
Any real kung fu chink would have none of the opinions and values that you are absolutely required to have for a spot in Hollywood

>>212254044 (OP)
That cover is cooler than the one I got. I hope I don’t picture her when I start reading it now. God damn it that would suck.

>>212254044 (OP)
I reread this recently and was thinking about how I'm surprised there hasn't been a recent adaptation of it. I certainly don't expect it to be kino but whatever. Curious to see who plays the finn since (minor spoiler?) that's what wintermute speaks through most of the time
Anyway Armitage should look like picrel but I can't really see that being possible

>>212254213
Why the fuck would you make the lenses so fucking big
Retarded shoulders in this costume too

Should I read the other 2 Sprawl books? I read Neuromancer a decade ago and didn't really like it that much compared to Snow Crash.

>>212254107
Murderbot is decent but the 20min episode length is wrecking people online. Looks like they'll wrap the survey plot up (first novella) in the next episode then use the last one to setup the rest of the show with a season-ending cliffhanger.

>"You got lucky"

Wasn't like they could make it any more woke from the way it was in the books. They're making PresAux out to be kinda overly-hippie and far too carebear actually.

Neuromancer is going to be shite though.

>>212255007
I agree with you that Armitage and Riviera look like pretty good casts. Any word on the Finn? Pretty important character unless they change things and make WM use an avatar of its own which now that I say it they probably will do lest it get too confusing for the retard crowd.
And good point on the rasta. Besides the ganja shit (kek) as you say he was actually a good character.
>>212256030
Neeson would be alright but maybe a bit old now. Wahlberg fuck no.
>>212256205
Hmm. I don't blame him for taking the money I guess. At least he's as honest as he can be about it.

>>212257315
I read all 3 recently, books 2-3 for the first time. They're okay and different enough to the first two but I think the first one is the best. Has the magic of the new setting and feels more like an adventure. 2-3 follow around a bunch of characters doing some not very interesting shit most of the books.
Also 2-3 have kind of abstract endings which (while not that crazy) put me off them a bit, especially 2.

William Gibson co-wrote the S5E11 X-Files episode “Kill Switch” and the character Invisigoth/Esther is clearly supposed to Molly.

>>212254044 (OP)
why are they so hellbent on ruining everything?

>>212254044 (OP)
Stop, please, I'm still recovering from Ender's Game

>>212257315
>>212257396
I'd shill the Bridge trilogy to anybody too
This is an odd way to praise it but I sort of like how it's less outlandish than the Sprawl, Gibson created an entire second cyberpunk universe that's still futuristic science fiction but feels closer in time to us than Neuromancer's full dive VR and city sized space stations
The storyline is a little more conventional and "Hollywood" as well, almost like he wrote these hoping they'd be accessible movies

There's not many authors I'd congratulate for watering themselves down but Gibson might have needed it

>>212254582
That also sounds like the plot of Elysium, and System Shock.

>>212257316
Skarsgards' voiceover bothers me in this for some reason

>>212254107
Drops of God

>>212257315
yes. third book is better than the second.
consider reading diamond age too, if you haven't already.

>>212257763
Idoru>All tomorrow's Parties>Virtual Light

>>212257763
I'm putting together a whole subgenre in my head as I write this post, Low Cyberpunk (like high fantasy vs low fantasy)
Basically everything in it is just like our world, possibly except for one pivotal fictional technology, but everyone is a schizophrenic asshole living in a corporate favela for no particular reason, that's just how their crazy world is

>Bridge Trilogy
>Snow Crash
>Dark Angel
>Robocop

>>212258142
Infinite Jest

>>212256205
Gibson gotta eat

>>212258234
I finally read it and I didn't get it. I felt too uncomfortable and pointed out at all the addict chapters and I don't care about tennis.

>>212258321
>let's just say it moved me... into a bigger house

>>212257866
Not neutral enough? He is sounding a little bit too emotional in some scenes. But then his comments in the books are from the POV of an unreliable narrator: Murderbot might think he's the distant observer but you can read that he gets too involved in some situations.

Been fun on the various forums and X. A lot of people exposing themselves as perhaps not being as gender inclusive as they like to present themselves. Lots of "I thought SecUnit was more feminine", or "Why doesn't she look more like a woman? It's how I always imagined her." Getting themselves called out for not using 'it' as the robots' pronoun too and they can't calmly discuss it when corrected - has to be turned into a mememe! screaming match.

>>212254044 (OP)
finally we can reveal to everyone in the world that despite the novel having a lot of cool ideas gibson's actual writing and the story suck fucking dick.

>>212256205
It's total fucking slop hahahahahahaha

>>212254213
Oh no no no no

They didn't even have to make it 'diverse' - there was multi-ethnic key characters clearly described in the story.

When can we stop this?

Neuromancer is just a matrix rip off

>>212254044 (OP)
is that a fucking BLACK WOMAN????
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME ASMONGOLD!!!!!!

>>212254866
>>212255007
Removing black characters for stereotype reasons is bizarre as William Gibson was a full blown negrophile who was obsessed with depicting blacks as the most competent people in the setting.
In multiple books he wrote the black groups are the most well organised and the only self-sufficient groups around while everyone else relies on handouts from the system - total inverse of reality.

>>212254213
>>212257120
>lenses so fucking big
Maybe they are a stand-in for some CGI trickery. Or, that's what I hope for, at least...

I think her attire is fine, though. Book-accurate Molly would look ridiculous by modern standards, with big 80s hair, blue jeans and red cowboy boots.

>>212254107
Dark Matter was okay, pretty faithful to the book

>>212254107
The Fragglerock revival was kinda cool I guess

>>212254107
I guess that the adaptation of Pachinko is a good example

>>212254536
>>212255180
Kek

>>212259226
We'll never get a good live-action Lucy...

>inevitably flops
>”it’s because you’re all RACISTS!”

>>212257396
>but I think the first one is the best. Has the magic of the new setting and feels more like an adventure
The second book feels like Gibson forgot what kind of world he created in the first book. It doesn't even feel futuristic anymore, instead of alt ~2030's like Neuromancer it feels like an alternate early 90's.

>>212254044 (OP)
>niggerwashing the hot Asian girl
DOA

>>212259377
>we'll never get a dogshit adaptation of dogshit fake anime thatn only exist as marketing for a dogshit western videogame
oh no!

>>212254044 (OP)
>Fatigue casting
>AppleTV
>30 years past it's due date
>Writers wikipedia only talks about his DEI credentials and his sole film credit is the unwatchable turd Mile 22
>Director has a short (and poor) resume
Well, with that background I can't exprct anything watchable, so at least it will be impossible to be disappointed.

>>212255173
Clooney already tanked Catch 22 over at Hulu.
How long until AppleTV gives us
Flicker
Infinite Jest
House Of Leaves
Geek Love
The Turner Diaries - with a black trans lead

>>212254661
Even Ghost In The Shell?

>>212260064
Big time. Ghost in the Shell lifts so much from the Sprawl Trilogy that I can't tell if you're being serious or joking by asking.

>>212260059
>House Of Leaves
unadaptable unless the show is somehow coupled with a phone app and has people banging on your door

>>212260370
What does it lift? Are you just looking at surface level things, such as androids, cyberworlds and sleezy characters?

>>212254605
>Sasha Grey played her in a radio drama in 2009
>n a 2009 radio drama on BBC Radio 4, Sasha Grey played the role of Christine in "The Girlfriend Experience". This was a radio adaptation of the Steven Soderbergh film of the same name according to the BBC. The film also starred Sasha Grey and was released in 2009.

>In the 2003 BBC Radio adaptation of William Gibson's Neuromancer, the character Molly was played by English actress Nicola Walker.

>>212254107
Patriot is kino.

>>212254107
doctor brain
dark matter
your friends and neighbors