How should Tommen have dealt with the high sparrow and his fanatics? How should he have dealt with his mother without Cersei blowing things up in his face?

>>212267574 (OP)
The way he dealt with it was right. Converting over gave Tommen and Margaery power. The only difference is he should’ve appealed for clemency with his mother.

he should have slaughtered them all
tactic that always works against uppity peasants and normies

Couple options
Most obvious is just wait for the old dude to die, he's like 80, would be any day.
Delegitimize him. Spread rumors He was fucking kids, spending church funds, etc.
Assassinate him via poison - would look pretty natural, like old age
I don't think this movement would survive with the same level of control without the High Sparrow, he's a unique figure. Removing him is key.

>>212267574 (OP)
>openly claim to be converted by the High Sparrow
>this makes you beloved by the public
>secretly send the Goldcloaks into the Sept and slaughter everyone in the middle of the night, take the Sparrow hostage
>just burn down the fucking Sept and get people to blame Cersei for it
>Tommen comes out and goes "oh my gosh! How could my mother do this? There will be justice!"
>arrest your mother and get her to shame walk
>tell everyone the Sparrow is dead and keep him alive in the dungeons in case you need him
>go home and bang your hot wife

Ezee

>>212267848
>Slaughter in the Hippodrome.
>Roman Magister arrests famous charioteer for being a pedo
>Greeks riot and demand his release because Greeks are all pedo's
>Greeks lynch Roman Magister
>Romans massacre the Greek pedo's
Greeks would rather die than be separated from boy ass.

>>212267977
Cersei is so petty and vindictive i just don’t see a solution that doesn’t end with her death.
>>212267959
Spreading rumors & providing the peasants with food and shelter seems like a good way to loosen his grasp/delegitimize him in the eyes of the public. I’d also add sending the rest of the fanatics to the nights watch too

>>212267959
>>212268275
You don't even need to make the rumors about him. Just get the rumors going that his "little sparrows" are drinking/going to whore houses/abusing people/raping kids/stealing/etc. there is nothing people hate in this world more than a hypocrite. Once the people believe the rumors the "high sparrow" will be forced to punish/execute his own loyal and innocent men (the survivors won't be loyal after that) or ignore it and let it grow
Same sort of stuff happened during the middle ages all the time

>>212268116
Greeks were proto-jews

>>212267574 (OP)
how about not being a degenerate?

>>212268556
...how was Tommen a degenerate? Are you on the right board?

>>212268598
if he isn't a degenerate then he wouldn't need to deal with the high sparrow and the high sparrow deals with his degenerate mother

>>212268637
Are you a bot or something? What the living fuck are you talking about?

>>212268726
what are YOU talking about?

>>212268796
You said some ESL shit about Tommen being a degenerate, sar. I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. What do you mean "dealing with the High Sparrow"? Did you watch the show?

>>212268556
Stop being antisemitic.

>>212267848
This, it's the only time I missed Joffrey. He wouldn't have tolerated this old moralfag's antics for a single minute.

>>212268894
Joffrey would have botched it and send some idiot to kill the high Sparrow and make the situation worse.

>>212268817
ok are you actually retarded or something?
>How should Tommen have dealt with the high sparrow and his fanatics?
Answer: By not being a degenerate.
>But he isn't a degenerate!
Good then he already "dealt with" the High Sparrow and doesn't have anything to worry about.
>How should he have dealt with his mother without Cersei blowing things up in his face?
By letting the High Sparrow deal with her.

Please tell me if I can make it more understandable for your little retarded ass

>>212267574 (OP)
He couldnt just antagonize them, they had the love of the people and Tommen himself was a believer.
He unironically dealt with them pretty damn well.

>>212267574 (OP)
that guy's the twink that was found being on cam with one of his friends naked right?

>>212268940
Ok you are a bot or English second language, because "degenerate" is not a characteristic anyone ever fucking gives Tommen. Looks like you just typed shit into an AI to spit out at me.

He should have pointed out that god doesn't exist, so they'd all just put away the silly dresses and acted like reasonable people

>>212268940
>Good then he already "dealt with" the High Sparrow and doesn't have anything to worry about.
Anon wtf does this even mean?

>>212269038
If Tommen is not a degenerate then everything is fine and he doesn't need to deal with the High Sparrow. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this. How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>212269067
If he isn't a degenerate then he doesn't need to do anything about the High Sparrow.

>>212269162
Ok again, what the living fuck are you talking about with him "not being a degenerate"? Tommen wasn't on trial, he wasn't held hostage by the High Sparrow...he wasn't in trouble for buggery or anything like Cersei was about to be. What. Are. You. Talking. About?

>>212269198
I think this guy thinks/is pretending to think that Tommen should have just been fine with Cersei being locked up because she's an impure woman

>>212269294
Thank you!

>>212269294
Well maybe use a better fucking translator holy shit

>>212269349
sorry that you're retarded?

>>212269680
Yeah bro, it's me. Do not redeem credit card!

>>212269710
ok?

>>212269984
fucking tourist.

>>212270085
oh sorry haha yeah how funny haha good joke my friend haha

>>212270109
BEEP BOOP HELLO SARS

>>212270145
you know even trolling you is kinda boring when you're doing most of the work yourself.

yes i did pretend to be retarded. yes i am actually retarded. and no i had no idea what i was talking about. although to be fair i did watch got but lost interest half way through

now please go back to wherever you came from

>>212270249
>heh I was merely pretending to be retarded
cool. Good for you retard.

>>212270249
>newfaggot doesn't know that "do not redeem" is actually over a decade old

>>212270249
reddit spaced and gay

kill em all

>>212270536
>source: it appeared to me in a dream

>>212273215
You could just check "knowyourmeme" and see he is right

>>212273215
Source is Google you fucking retard.

Nip it in the bud. Capture and execute them all early on and silently while giving the city Free Beer Day or something to distract.

>>212273424
This. And maybe try to make life a little bit better for the people so that they aren’t CONSTANTLY looking for someone to replace the elite with.

>>212273370
ok now what?
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/why-did-you-redeem-it

>>212273409
you can use Google's internet search engine in your dreams? did you learn that at corporate cocksucking school?

>>212270482
>got baited by a retard

>>212273780
>"hey I'm shitting myself"
>*shits pants furiously*
>gets told to stop
>"heh I was merely pretending to shut myself, aren't you embarrassed?"
Why are you like this?

>>212268116
>t. Reddit tier understanding of history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAT4ybsz_E

>>212273739
>you can use Google's internet search engine in your dreams? did you learn that at corporate cocksucking school?
I'm genuinely curious what your first language is

>>212273822
i'm sorry you were unable to resist responding to me

>>212273877
hindi. why?

>>212273841
>nah man i'm not gay i just wrestle with naked boys for fun and sport

>>212267574 (OP)
God that arc was dogshit

>>212267574 (OP)

he shoulda had cersei killed

>>212274131
It was ok. Except it should have resulted in Cersei's death as well. She's a total fuckup. She wasn't going to suddenly be super smary queen le best player in the game.

>>212274069
>I'm sorry you called me a retard for shitting myself
I'm convinced you don't understand what trolling is. Pretending to be an insufferable idiot doesn't do anything to ME lol just means you are stupid.

>>212274098
>yeah Im a historian, I base all my knowledge of Greece on a few clay pots with pictures painted on them, just like my trans history teacher taught me
Kys

>>212274354
>wrestling didn't exist

>>212274343
well it makes my peepee hard so at least someone gets something out of this

>>212274499
No, I said that a painting of two guys wrestling on a clay pot doesnt mean that greece was a pro gay culture. Theres a soldier who got a promotion because he killed another soldier who was coming on to him.

>>212274703
>wrestling naked with other men isn't gay
ok i guess? have fun "not being gay" then

In reality the nobility managed to become bishops and cardinals so they controlled the church.

>>212274354
>retarded christcuck moralists still can't get over how explicitly gay Greece was
lol ok.

>>212268940
NTA but you're annoying

>>212275565
thanks

>>212267789
convert then assassinate the sparrow and take control

>>212274805
>>212274703
The original Olympics was entirely nude, and any woman who tried to watch it would be executed.
That's the biggest sausage fest the worlds ever seen.

>>212267574 (OP)
Should have let Jaime and the Rosefags slaughter them all

>>212275793
i honestly believe that although wrestling is a pretty useful skill in hand-to-hand combat it was also a way of channeling the natural homosexual tendencies into a socially acceptable form

>>212267574 (OP)
THE BOAR!

>>212268922
>some idiot
He would have sent an army and slaughtered the lot of them, some innocents would have got caught in the cross fire but he would expect some of them in the wreckage.

>>212267574 (OP)
What show?

>>212277496
Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers

As much as Got shits the bed wholesale as the show goes on. I think this plot line is the one that did the most damage to the show for me. It was the clear signal the show was seriously declining.

>>212279576
What's wrong with the plotline? It's essentially from the books with a few changes. It's to show that Cersei is not as smart as she thinks and fucks up everything when she gets power

>>212267574 (OP)
Instead of being manipulated by the High Sparrow and Cersei, Tommen grows into a true king. He revokes the Faith Militant’s right to bear arms, discredits the High Sparrow through political maneuvering, and installs a moderate religious leader. With Margaery as his public face and Olenna's support, he feeds the smallfolk to prevent unrest and quietly arrests zealot leaders. Cersei is spared public trial and instead exiled to Casterly Rock. The Sept remains intact, the realm is stabilized without bloodshed, and Tommen earns a legacy as a wise, just ruler who averted destruction through diplomacy and quiet strength.

>>212279576
That's a bizzare take. It's one of the most realistic plots in the whole series. There's no magical or inexplicable mystical voodoo involved, it's just good ol' religious fervor run amok. This sort of thing has happened hundreds of times in recorded in history all over the world, with virtually every religion.
The ending where Cersei BTFO of everyone is the only part where this plotline really jumps the shark into the bizarre, otherwise this sort thing could totally be something that gone down in our world.

>>212280838
Tommen would never have done any of that because Tommen is a little bitch boy, and he was always going to be one. Joffrey was an evil monster that deserved to die, but he was the only one of Cersei's kids who had any chance of holding the throne, she knew that.

>>212280838
Tommen was extremely young in GRRM's story. And he was going to get dethroned by Aegon soon enough which Varys would ensure with his plans. Anything like what you're suggesting would just be D&D's poor fan fiction.

I would just blow up the Sept of Baelor. I bet no one would even really care.

>>212283101
religion? eh, no big deal. people never take that stuff serious and start a jihad or anything!

>>212283166
All the smart characters are atheists anyways. Only rural and suburban retards believe in gods.

i think we missed some build up of this cult in the first seasons. regardless, its still hard to understand how they could fight an army with a dragon, but couldnt fight some old fucks in robes. just kill them? capture the temple and kill them all? why was even cersei arrested? how the fuck was the king powerless for so long? i dont care if its from the book and not the new writers, it was so bad for an entire plot to be destroyed with big explosion goes boom just to kill some religioustards. felt so out of place and made me stop caring for that plot. also the new king should have had more build up if they knew jeffrey was going to fuck off after a few seasons.

>>212283285
If they made a move against the High Sparrow they risked causing a peasant uprising. He was very popular.

for me, it's Dorne

>>212283273
Stannis was not dumb. And he saw first hand evidence and real proof of supernatural powers likely performed by a God of some sort

Tommen did nothing wrong. I'll never forgive this shit series for what they did to /our boy/

>>212283351
>Stannis was not dumb
What land battles against a peer opponent did he win again?

>>212281824
It's not that bizarre. A lot of it is played for spectacle, sure, but the Dissolution of the Monasteries involved a lot of destruction by fire.

>>212283386
You’re the guy that says “ironniggers,” aren’t you?
Your points have been disproven many times. Consult the archives.

>mfw my mommy kills by smirkfu wife

>>212268940
Bait or genuinely retarded?

>>212283783
I know it's because the writing went to absolute shit and they didn't care anymore, but what's the justification for Cercei getting to rule as queen after this? Either everyone in Westeros know that she destroyed the great sept (and could do it to them too! maybe. somehow) and she's thus the ultimate antichrist that people should be rallying a crusade against or people don't know that she destroyed it in which case she has no claim to authority

>>212283664
yeah but he wasn't burning the monks and civilians alive inside the monasteries. It was just destruction of the properties, that's quite a bit different from blowing up a whole city with a bomb that puts the Oklahoma city bomber to shame.

>>212283871
both. see here >>212270249

>>212283949
They kinda forgot that Cersei is really dumb, squandered all her best resources, and has no family left. They also forgot that the people of King's Landing love to riot and destroy shit. They instead acted like everyone was super fearful of her and would do whatever she said now, obeying her perfectly. There was no more Game since she won and all those that remained were completely loyal. Including Euron who would build her a gigantic fleet and finger her bum.

>>212283949
What did she actually rule? Basically just King's Landing and Lannisport, and that's really just because her soldiers kept the peace.
Obviously you're right, with better writers they might have actually acknowledged that she had no legitimate claim, but I still think it's something she would do.

>>212284114
didn't her armies destroy High Garden?

>>212284237
Yeah, they're just flowers and can't fight or something. Then they got ambushed by the Dothraki "Your people can't fight" Horde.

Kings landing was a shithole and im glad dany nuked it.

>>212283697
>Consult the archives.
They were all wrong. That guy, whoever he is, is smart and right. Surviving a siege is not winning a battle. Greatest military commander my ass.

>>212269008
yes

>>212284580
>Led a siege defense that all others declare would never have been successful under a less capable and rigid man.
>Outwitted and ambushed the Ironniggers at sea, the thing they are supposed to be the best at
>Defeated the wildlings outnumbered about 80 to 1
He might have even defeated Renly in the field, as he planned on riding ahead and running Stannis down at Dawn, which almost assuredly would have gone against him as they would have been riding blind into the sun directly into Stannis' spearwalls.

>>212285732
>might
>almost
If wishes and nuts were candies and nuts.

>>212285985
We all know Stannis won the Battle of Ice.

>>212286006
Trying to take credit for a battle you won't fought yet? Reminds of that time Stannis threw his lot in with foreign usurers.

>>212286130
Stannis knows he will be able to rapidly pay the debt off when he takes his throne and doesn't have Baelish around to embezzle all their money.

>>212286174
Why does Stannis wield a false sword?

>>212286196
Because it's a glamour and not Lightbringer, obviously. That doesn't have anything to do with him being a great commander.

>>212284237
>distance between Casterly Rock and Highgarden is immense
>Lannister army teleports to Highgarden taking them by complete surprise because half a dozen houses didn't send a raven
kino

>>212286311
Qyburn had invented the Red Alert 2 version of the Chronosphere, which can teleport groups of units.

Stannis had a better story than Bran the Broken