Making deckard a replicant is braindead retarded and completely ruins any meaning the movie had

If he was a replicant, wouldn't he be saying things like "bleep blorp" a lot more?

>>212283061 (OP)
It actually makes sense when you realize that Roy Batty never actually saw any of the things he monologued about. They were fake implanted memories, like Deckards.

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>>212283061 (OP)
Based. I liked the scene where Deckard goes to see his long time pal Holden in the hospital. It's so much more poignant when you can see they're starting to get pretty scared about how good the replicants are getting at blending in and seeming human. Their job used to be really easy since replicants were essentially like Data from Star Trek. Very easy to spot, not understanding a lot of normal human stuff, and giving up when they're caught.

>>212283061 (OP)
The movie is shit anyway. It was boring empty garbage

No you didn't get it he's like got a working penis and his girl is also special she's got a real womb and his cum is like ice but it builds babies. That's what it was about

>>212284470
that's fine sweetie, now head on over to the jurassic world thread that's more you're level of comprehension

On rewatch, Zora is a pretty disappointing replicant. They gave her some cool backstory as an assassin and didn't do anything with it. I guess just to justify her kicking Deckard's ass then running

Rachel was a secret replicant and Deckard wasn't.
Rachel: Worked at Tyrell Corp literally under the thumb of her creator
Deckard: Retired career detective and robot killer with a tense relationship with his boss and his scumbag pimp partner, but he gets along well with the noodle guy
Rachel: Combat abilities unknown
Deckard: Got his ass kicked by the big replicant, the sex robot replicant, the combat replicant, and very nearly the weird toy clown replicant
Rachel: The subject of the very next line after the camera points at the paper unicorn
Deckard: Falls in love with a beautiful unique irreplaceable creature, is himself a normal mortal man

>>212283061 (OP)
The point of the Director's Cut ending was to leave you wondering, not to answer the question. The sequel ruined this by answering the question.

He could be a replicant -> Smart writing, leaves you wondering what does it mean to be Human
Um he was actually a replicant and had a baby and turns out it's common for replicants to hunt other replicants -> Dumb retarded shit

>>212284835
It couldn't be more clear cut kek. But Ridley LOVES to put in meaningless, pointless, dumb twists just to say there is one. And pseuds love to jerk off over how mysterious and ambiguous it is!

>>212283061 (OP)
It makes him a gun. Notice that every time Deckard kills a replicant, Gaff shows up. Like every time. It's almost like Gaff is sending him out because human life is precious and a replicant isn't. Deckard is a tool and Gaff is the Blade Runner. And then you have the origami unicorn Gaff leaves for him that says "We know your dreams because we programmed them."

Although the real message of the film is Roy Batty representing humans and humans representing gods and the desperate struggle for our brief lives to have meaning.

>>212284470
I thought so too when i was a kid.
Took many decades to appreciate it.

>>212284848
The whole unicorn origami scene + the unicorn dream sequence 100% answered the question though.
That's why it's so stupid. Because it's wrong.

>>212284906
I think whether it was clear or ambiguous is beside the point.

The theme of the film works either way.

There's kinship between any two beings struggling to survive.

>>212286448
>The theme of the film works either way
It's literally doesn't work whatsoever at all if Deckard is not a human. It's a complete bullshit retarded movie if he's a replicant. It's just some shit to make idiots go "whoa dude, what if like, you were a robot and couldn't tell that you were one?!"

>>212286553
No, the point is that like Deckard, Roy Battys memories were fake implants. He never experienced any of the things in his monologue. They were intentionally implanted memories designed to impact Deckard and guide him to fulfilling his purpose.

>>212286721
>>212286553

You guys are too hung up on the specifics. The conclusion of the film is that Batty feels enough empathy for deckard to save his life, and deckard feels enough empathy for batty to allow him his last peaceful moments.


Neither of them need to know anything about themselves or each other beyond what they feel.

>>212286721
No, Deckard is a human and that's what makes the entire story worthwhile. Otherwise it's pointless trash fit only for direct-to-dvd.

>>212284848
>He could be a replicant -> Smart writing
The whole point of the movie is the parallel between Deckard (not a replicant) and Roy (a replicant, if Deckard is a replicant the whole movie falls apart and it's basically a waste of time.
Having said this, i think Ridley Scott only says Deckard could be a replicant just to fuck with people and make us argue about it, just look at this thread.
It's that or he's just a complete fucking retard, and after watching Gladiator II i'm not sure anymore.

>>212284470
True. It's slop with some cool lighting and a good Rutger Hauer performance.

>FUUUCK! If only they gave me a little replicant strength to beat this weakest of all replicants!

>>212286889
and his relationship with Rachel is framed as tragic because she's a replicant who's going to be dead shortly while he, presumably is not.

>>212285065
>Notice that every time Deckard kills a replicant, Gaff shows up.
Because they didn't trust him. They tracked him so he couldn't just leave town until he did what they wanted him to do. Deckard said it himself in the beginning of the film:
>"I was quit when I came in here. I'm twice as quit now."
Deckard wanted nothing to do with any of them.

He also knew he was being tracked, which is why he actually did the job. We know this based on the scene where he's in his car and the cops show up and tell him he's in a restricted area:
>"I'm Deckard. Blade Runner. B Two sixty-three fifty-four. I'm filed and monitored."

This idea that he was just a tool is right, but he was a human tool that had no choice other than do what the state mandated he do, which is exactly what Bryant told him during his briefing:
>Bryant: "Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!."
>Deckard: "No choice, huh?"
>Bryant: "No choice, pal."

Deckard was just a guy being forced to do some shit he didn't want to do by a tyrranical and vindictive state. Many such cases.

>>212283061 (OP)
the ambiguity of whether deckard is human or replicant conforms with the spirit of the book and it is quite appropriate for ridley to foment this debate as it gives more depth to the film. there is a chapter in the book in which deckard and another blade runner are confronted with information that they are indeed replicants, and both wrestle with this. so much so that one of the blade runners wants to die if it's confirmed he's not human.
dick's books and stories are famous for characters that are unreliable narrators which leave the reader wondering what the truth in the story is. in dadoes, the issue of whether deckard is a replicant seems to be resolved after they pass the test, but the question lingers in subsequent chapters.

>>212284470
It has a simple story but the visuals and noir mood were done well.

>>212287536
The book isn't applicable to the movie
In the book replicants are legitimately psychotic mockeries of humans

>>212283061 (OP)
What do you mean making?
That shot with his eyes glowing was an in camera effect that was filmed when the movie was made, but excluded from the theatrical release.
The idea of him being a replicant was there from the beginning.
You can also argue that his eye shine wasn't as strong or obvious and therefore it was meant to allude to him being the same thing he hunted down

>>212283061 (OP)
>Making deckard a replicant
What? Did I miss something?

The funny thing is the novel played with the idea of Deckard and another bounty hunter possibly being a replicant then averted it because Philip K Dick was smart enough to know how dumb it would be, instead he used the idea to examine both character's empathy.

But that dummy Ridley Scott just couldn't resist the urge of a cheap twist for the director's cut.