Why did M3gan 2.0 fail where Saw X succeeded? What does both series being under Blumhouse now mean for their futures?

At a certain point is M3gan just short on concept? Like you get the idea in the first movie and they need to change it up for the second movie but the girl robot concept is not strong enough on its own to carry an action comedy so it winds up not resonating and doesn't have the horror audience to fall back on?

>cunny robot
>robot
?

>>212302237
What?

Are the M3gan films lacking in masculine energy?

>>212301068 (OP)
>Why did M3gan 2.0 fail where Saw X succeeded?
Megan 2 was a bad movie. Saw X was ok.
Simple as that.

>>212303335
I think they bet on her being a horror icon but she is just not a horror icon like he is.

>>212303432
>I think they bet on her being a horror icon
It wasn't even the same doll.
They story was convoluted and artificial. Not the typical "same, but bigger and bolder" like a normal sequel.

>>212303516
Did they fail to fundamentally understand M3gan?

>>212303614
Idk. Haven't watched any of those movies.
"Doll is creepy" just seems silly to me.

But looks like the answer is yes.

This has been answered already.
It didn't come out in January.

>>212303735
Isn't that normally a bad time for movies to release? Certainly it's not when you'd drop your sequel that is supposed to take the series to the next level.

>>212303975
M3GAN 1 came out in January, competing against nothing, and made 100+ million
The sequel would've done the same thing, and was slated for a January release until Jimmy Blumhouse himself became delusional and thought the movie was capable of pulling mid-2010s capeshit numbers if he pushed it back for a summer release
He literally said he thought M3GAN would be as big as Superman, even though Superman has not been truly successful in theaters since the 70s, so not only is Blum stupid, but he's also completely out of touch with reality

>>212304143
Yeah, they bet big on M3gan and wound up coming up snake eyes. If they're really thinking about using the Saw series and the AI concept to save M3gan as a viable franchise that's a huge risk.

Saw X was a fun prequel to a mostly dormant franchise, it had a forgettable sequel/reboot years after Saw 3D and a spinoff with Chris Rock that nobody gave a fuck about. Not only that but it was a film that was all Tobin Bell, even as a Hoffman enjoyer theres just no comparing him John Kramer, and the filmmakers knew too since they kept using flashbacks to justify bringing him back despite the character being killed off very early on.
M3gan on the other hand...it was a killer doll movie that only got viral because of
>LOL HER FUNNY DANCE XDDDD
from normalfags and because the design appealed to lolifags. That's not really a stable foundation for a franchise, especially because they immediately jumped the gun from horror to action comedy.

>>212304368
I don't think the argument of quality even matters.
If this movie had come out in January it would've been a massive hit regardless. "Soulm8te" will cost like 15 mil or whatever and make probably 80+ when it comes out next January, and it'll probably be lame, but that won't matter
It's purely down to Blum's delusion

>>212301068 (OP)
Neither has a future

>>212304618
I think the M3ganCU is looking pretty fucked right now and that doesn't bode well at at all for SoulM8te. It is going to be a fucking insane gamble if they try to save the M3ganCU by banking on the interest people have in the JigAI concept.

>>212304674
"Annabelle" was a gamble as a conjuring spin-off but it made tons of money
Because they put it out in late september and even the worst horror movies turn a profit during the halloween season
It's just the release date

>>212304753
Yeah the success they've had with the Conjuring CU is pretty crazy.

>>212304578
There's really just no one that's comparable to him.

Whatever M3GAN 2's plot was, it still needed to be horror. They could've done whatever, but as long as it was still a horror movie, it would've been fine. They shouldn't have tried to genre swap with "robot girl vs. robot girl" until like M3GAN 5.

>>212306094
No. It could've been the best sequel ever made, it would've flopped against F1.

>>212301068 (OP)
i'm not crazy am I?

>>212301068 (OP)
You’re asking why bringing back the franchises main legacy character in Saw X succeeded?

>>212301068 (OP)
>M3gan 2.0 fail

sassy loli killer is +
> the aunt sucks
> the kid sucks
> the niggersheboon partner sucks
> the basedjack Nick Swardson lite partner sucks

I thought M3gan 2.0 was fun, though....totally missed the boat by making an OLDHAG robot as the villain. As gay and forced as it was, the Steven Segal reference at the end got me to laff

>>212307003
>the kid sucks

>>212307036
>>the kid sucks
she's a cunty brat. There should've been a scene where she gets spanked or 'put in her place' or some Poison Ivy type shit

>>212306094
the first one was barely horror. i liked it but it wasn't scary at all. i liked 2.0 better.

>>212307036
i think she's very talented

It's crazy that we were all here to see the end of the M3ganCU.

>>212307036
This feathered eyebrow look is fucking vile

>>212307223
>horror movies
>scary
underaged b&

>>212301068 (OP)
Too cute for modern society

>>212307656
>>212307036
4 more years bros
Behave until then

>>212301068 (OP)
>Why did M3gan 2.0 fail
No idea, its a great movie. Better than the first one.

Is the gamble of a versus movie worth it to save the M3gan franchise?

>>212301068 (OP)
It's just one of those movies I would rather wait to go see.
I don't think anything will get me to a theater anymore.
Movies suck.
Someone always ruins the viewing at the theater.
It's expensive.
Just not worth it anymore.

>>212308059
>I would rather wait to go see.
wait for WHAT?
who the fuck actually GOES to the movie theater?
watched the indian rip on Friday night ONLINE....the movie is good or its not. IMAX surround sound wont change that
I haven't been to the "theater" since 2003

>>212308160
I meant I would rather wait, than go see it.
Just a typo brainfart.
Going to the theater blows.

>>212308160
oh look another underage retard. you're not as smart as you think you are

>>212308160
damn bro what's it like being poor

>>212308059
>Someone always ruins the viewing at the theater.
you won't have to worry about that if you go to see m3gan 2.0 at the theater

>>212306094
The genre swap does feel like it happened far too quickly, it's like if Freddy vs. Jason was made as a direct follow up to the first Friday the 13th. It's as though they wanted to speed run the life cycle of a horror franchise and dive into self-parody immediately

>>212308317
Probably. I will still wait though. My last theater experience made me never want to go again.

>>212301068 (OP)
SawX tried mixing things up a little bit and gave the audience some trap victims that they actually had a reason to hate before subjecting them to tortureporn traps.

>>212308278
>damn bro what's it like being poor
LOOK AT ME! I SUPPORT HOLLYWOOD BY BUYING A $20 MOVIE TICKET!!!

>>212308059
>It's just one of those movies I would rather wait to go see.
>>212308160
>wait for WHAT?
>>212301068 (OP)

i just decided to take my family to watch it today but my local cinema (the only place i can watch a movie without it being $100) isnt even playing it fucking faggots.

ill have to wait for a good quality version to come to my russian streaming stites i guess

>>212307944
you can't stop her from having sex with me in my mind

>>212308431
Sorry anon.
I am sure it's playing around here, but the diverse audience keeps me away from theaters.

>>212308420
the ticket to see m3gan last friday at 10:30 am cost 8 dollars at an AMC theater

>>212308332
>The genre swap
To be fair, how much mileage could you get out of a psycho doll ? Much less one that costs $10k. It isn't plausible,so they have to come up with some other angle to keep it going. M3Gan is endearing and the female sassbot is what they want to keep pushing and intentionally cheesing it up with the story. They're making fun of themselves in M3gan 2.0.
HUMAN CENTIPEDE went this route in 3 and made for an enjoyable shock cinema

>>212308521
Very true anon.
Not yet, at least.

>>212308630
I wonder what shit would smell like after being processed by dozens of people.

>>212308550
>8 dollars
heh....
EIGHT FUCKING DOLLARS
> how much for gas?
> how much to deal with fucking niggers?
> how much to sit and wait around until they show the fucking movie?
> did you have to wear clothes?
> did they allow you to masturbate during the movie?
> were you able to use the restrooms without someone's humid asshole evacuating shit magma in the stall next to you?

>>212308719
there were two other people in the theater, nowhere near me
I didn't get anyone food because popcorn and candy and soda is gross
I could've probably jerked off if I wanted to, but the movie wasn't sexy enough

>>212308719
you literally have a /pol/ induced mental illness. try going outside at least once in your life.

hollywood produces nothing but shit movies
expects you to pay to watch their low effort slop
> the votes are in. not good.
> how about i'm watching NONE of them

>>212308816
>I didn't get anyone food because popcorn and candy and soda is gross
sometimes ya gotta pack your own

>>212308922
I did sneak in some spicy beef jerky bites because otherwise I would've missed lunch

>>212308816
>wasn't sexy enough
not arousing enough?

>>212308719
>>212308550
>>212308420

the nearest major cinema to me literally doesnt even bother listing the prices anymore, you have to wait in line to ask and its all $20+.

my local place is pretty decently priced but doesnt always show movies i want to see >>212308431

its really crazy how out of hand prices are. i got two meals and a kids meal from a local run down burger joint and it was $50 plus tip unironically. i dont know how people are able to deal with any of this

ive noticed a lot of places also got rid of all their discounts like for veterans

>>212308816
>but the movie wasn't sexy enough
there's literally a shot of m3gan fully nude

>>212308990
>>212309047
too lite on the cady x m3gan romance

>>212309045
>its really crazy how out of hand prices are
Its to the point a SINGLE ADULT can't afford to have a decent meal by themselves

Nobody is even close to beating his concept.