Lol

>>212303704 (OP)
The guy was totally guilty

>>212303704 (OP)
This kid is not guilty because aliens came from outer space and killed his old man.
Case closed.

>>212303704 (OP)
>>212303769
>>212303774
Beyond Reasonable Doubt, chuddies. Proceed to seethe below :^)

>>212303704 (OP)
I think the kid was guilty, but Henry Fonda’s character provides reasonable doubt. I would’ve let him walk.

>>212303704 (OP)
the movie is based, not because it's boomer liberal slop, because it exposes how dumb the judicial system is

>>212303888
So trve, bro. I wish we lived in a based feudal society rather than democracy.

Yes Ivan we know this is another pol influence campaign thread. No Ivan this isn't the jews, white guilt or propaganda. No Ivan having a pocket knife isn't 'introducing new evidence'. Yes Ivan this is reasonable doubt. Yes Ivan we know you're trying to influence real world views into wanting fascist authority and you're not discussing the film.

>>212303919
democracy is a consequence, not a cause of higher living standards

>>212303769
>The guy was totally guilty

In-universe his dad was probably just a gambling degenerate who got shanked for owing too much money.

>>212303981
Ah yes, George "Wooden Teeth" Washington and his high living standards.

>>212304045
Yes Ivan we know this is a pol raid thread.

>>212303981
nope.
in autocracies everyone fakes economic data constantly because of fear of losing their social position. high trust societies have huge economic benefits and those are impossible when the government relies on force to stay in charge.

>juror 4 finally breaking his stoic demeanor and sweating
Kino

>>212303947
>>212304067
Based Ivanposter

>>212303704 (OP)
All blacks are guilty without a doubt

>>212303887
Sophistry.

>>212304653
You're a racist pos, treat POC with respect
Also, he was Italian

what was his color even? Italian?

>>212304093
not going to even bother replying to you
just know that you're a 90IQ redditor

>>212303947
>>212304067
Are you gonna start spamming gore again.

>>212303981
well said, ivan

>>212304067
when did /tv/ start hating polfolx? is this a /leftypol/ psyop?

>>212304709
>You're a racist pos
Yeah thanks, you're also pretty racist

>>212304782
Redditards try to larp as anons so they can make 4chan more leftist

>>212303704 (OP)
what am I looking at on the bottom left?

>>212305106
Wall of text

>>212303947
>>212304067
Based schizo single-handedly fighting the Russians. You're doing God's work, son, and your country is proud of you.

>>212306206
Do you seriously believe putin is trying to turn usa fascist?

>>212303704 (OP)
Did no one tell the judge the juror was doing his own investigations? Get him locked up then find the brat guilty.

>hey I just intentionally caused a mistrial and committed juror misconduct all in a single act

>>212303704 (OP)
Kek, reminds me of this meme.
If it were a real case, the kid would almost certainly be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. However, since it is a 1950s movies, he has to be not guilty because films back pretty much never let criminals walk.
Also if it were still an automatic death sentence for returning a "guilty" verdict, you would have a lot more "not guilty" verdicts or hung juries for guilty defendants.

This is a great movie, but I hated this section
>kid doesn't remember the movies (double feature) he saw, didn't have a ticket, and no theater workers remembered seeing him
>a juror then describes that this makes him guilty
>another juror asks when "what's the last movie you saw"
>juror then goes on to describe the type of movie it was and gives the title "The Remarkable Mrs. Bainbridge"
>other juror says "akstually it was "The Magnificient Mrs. Bainbridge"
>Juror then admits the kid is not guilty
Dumbest shit I've ever seen. The kid didn't have a ticket, couldn't give the cops a title, a star, what the movie was about, etc.
>"b-but he was traumatized! by his dad dying!"
Trauma makes you remember stuff more, not less.

>>212303947
based Ivanposter shitting on bots

>>212303919
>4th grad dropout doesn't know the difference between the justice system and the form of government

made it all the way to the panel and the jury box and then the prosecutor excused me from the jury yesterday. it was a kino murder trial with the defended pleading not guilty too. why didn't they want me bros?

>>212307032
Jury selection is about getting the most braindead people you can reliably manipulate.

https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/1-General/CJI2d.Jury_Admonitions.pdf

>4. Do not visit or view the premises or place where the charged crime was allegedly committed, or any other premises or place involved in the case (...)

>6. Do not attempt to research any fact, issue, or law related to this case, whether by discussion with others, by research in a library or on the internet, or by any other means or source (...)

>Our law also does not permit you to visit a place discussed in the testimony. First, you cannot always be sure that the place is in the same condition as it was on the day in question. Second, even if it were in the same condition, once you go to a place discussed in the testimony to evaluate the evidence in light of what you see, you become a witness, not a juror. As a witness, you may now have an erroneous view of the scene that may not be subject to correction by either party. That is not fair.

nth reminder that the only legal consequence of this retarded movie would be a mistrial

>>212307310
he literally says "yeah i broke the law!" when he brings in the knife lmao

>>212307310
No, Fonda would have been found in contempt of court and jailed also.

>>212303864
brown skin erases all doubt
this is inherent to the collective human subconscious of intuition

>>212303887
Henry Fonda's character isn't supposed to provide reasonable doubt.
>>212303947
I think the kid did it but I appreciate the vital service you provide to these threads.

>>212306404
chad powermove

>>212306404
it was based and in a non cucked ERM ACKTUALLY reddit legal system it would have been applauded.

>>212306471
>Also if it were still an automatic death sentence for returning a "guilty" verdict, you would have a lot more "not guilty" verdicts or hung juries for guilty defendants.

they screen the juries for those cases extra to be "death qualified" as in they are not squeamish about the death penalty.

>>212307474
da boi was white by modern amerimutt standards

If the boy did it, why didn't he take a plea deal? Why would he insist on his innocence and go to criminal trial, knowing the odds against him? I HAVE A REASONABLE DOUBT NOW!

>>212307729
Because criminals, especially violent criminals, are stupid.

>>212307729
Wtf, that means everyone who doesn't take a plea deal is innocent. This is groundbreaking.

>>212307573
ah yes because evidence produced in complete secret that doesn't have the chance to be cross examined and potentially countered by the other side is TOTALLY conductive to a fair and just legal system. You absolute child.

>>212303864
reasonable doubt, not 'beyond all possible doubt' you pilpuling subversive kike.

>>212310346
You're not fooling anyone, Ivan.

>>212309360
No Ivan owning a pocket knife isn't evidence.

>>212310543
>Someone is disagreeing with me about movies
>It must be a Russian special agent!
you "people" are insufferable

>>212306262
What do you mean turn? USA has always been fascist.

>>212307310
>>212307425
Came here to post this. I don't get how the message of the movie is "yeah he almost definitely did it but akshually there's reasonable doubt and the law tells us to let him free" when the law literally forbids you from introducing evidence outside of the trial

>>212311124
because it's not supposed to be a literal trial

>>212310976
Shush.

>>212307699
That is correct but sentencing is pretty much always separate from finding someone guilty or not guilty. Even with pre-screening jurors, a jury can find a person guilty and then not reach a consensus on the death penalty so the guilty party avoids execution but not prison. I do not know though if sentencing was always a separate thing however in the past.

>>212303864
reasonable doubt, not 'beyond all possible doubt', you crybully faggot

>>212306788
>Did you confuse two synonymous words for the title of the movie you saw several weeks ago?
>That means that this guy who said he went to see a movie the day before but couldn't remember the title, the time, the script, or one of the actors, who didn't have a ticket to show, and who no one had seen at the theater that day, is innocent!

You know, Juror 10 has a point, because that kid is a spicshit