>This boy is the One who will bring Balance to the Force.
>...
>But he will do it 30+ years, destruction of the Jedi Order and death of billions innocent people later, teehee.


Im thinking if not for this retard shoving Anakin into Council's face, Palpatine would have failed with his plan and Republic would have continued to live in peace.

watch the plunget reviews it makes sense

>>212316077 (OP)
>bring Balance to the Force.
What does this even mean in the movies?

I think the Jedi's belief in the Chosen One prophecy is a neat twist on the story. Their steadfast belief in their traditions/strictures is what allows Sidious to take them out.

>>212316077 (OP)
it's palpatine who did all that

It makes no sense at all. Training shouldn't be necessary at all once they made the force all about midichlorians. Because Anakin should have been powerful with or without training. He had the higher count. If they kept it as a vague spiritual force then at least the training to hone it makes some kind of sense. If it's just shit in your blood and it's an innate biological thing then whether you train it or not should make no difference.

>>212316140
It's retarded nonsense, if the Force is some sort of universal substrata in everything and everyone, then why would its balance depend on one cult in one galaxy?

>>212316077 (OP)
No, Palpatine would've succeeded with even less resistance.

>>212316140
The Sith are the imbalance and the Jedi are the balance, so the Chosen One must wipe out the Jedi and help establish Sith supremacy over the galaxy so he can then have a change of heart somewhere down the line. Any alternative explanation is non-canon.

>>212316077 (OP)
Well, if not Anakin, Palpatine would have find someone else to seduce.

>>212316077 (OP)
>Palpatine would have failed with his plan and Republic would have continued to live in peace.
I mean, even without little Ani, palps still has the clone army, his fake war all lined up, the Jedi blind and dumb in their hubris. All Ani really did for Sheeve was a little cleanup after it was just about over and then act as a scary enforcer for the next 20 years.
>enFORCEr hehe you hear that Tone? en FORCEr, hehe like the force.

>>212316140
I remember people used to say that he technically did bring balance because there were only two Jedi (Yoda and Obi wan) and two Sith (Vader and Sheev) left. Then Disney made it so that there were dozens of Jedi who survived order 66 so now that doesn’t make sense.

>>212316140
It doesn't mean anything, it's just something that sounds vaguely mystical.

>>212316077 (OP)
Jedi don't believe death is a tragedy.

>>212316290
>It makes no sense at all. Training shouldn't be necessary at all once they made the force all about midichlorians. Because Anakin should have been powerful with or without training. He had the higher count. If they kept it as a vague spiritual force then at least the training to hone it makes some kind of sense. If it's just shit in your blood and it's an innate biological thing then whether you train it or not should make no difference.
That make no sense at all. Michael Phelps has a huge biological advantage with his larger heart and inhumanly long arms, but he still has to train,
The idea of measuring someone's spiritual potential with a technological doodad should feel wrong to you, but it's because the Jedi are doing it wrong. They've become so entrenched in rule following that they don't understand it's blinded them to the living force. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite them. I just saw Phantom Menace, I have seen II or III yet.

>>212317137
>so Disney
multiple jedi surviving was a thing long before Disney came, that and the idea is retarded to begin with since the series ends with the sith being destroyed and Luke about to rebuild the jedi order so meaning more jedi soon

>>212316077 (OP)
>Palpatine would have failed
nah
order 66 was inevitable

>>212316140
Destruction of the Sith.

>>212316364
That's the point. Neither jedi or sith should have power over anything. That's balance. Bothe sith and jedi have become political not spiritual entities.

>>212317355
Yoda/windu/obiwan would have defeat Sidius too

>>212316077 (OP)
Nah, if Anakin hadn't been there, Palpatine would have just gotten Barriss to be his apprentice instead.

Hell, he already seemed to be working on her in Ep.2. Why else would some random padawan be invited to Palpy's office for a secret meeting with the Jedi council?

>>212317137
Balance in the Force never meant balance between Jedi and Sith.
The Sith were imbalance. They weren't part of a functioning ecosystem alongside the Jedi.

>>212316077 (OP)
>This boy is the One who will reveal God's will and save Humanity.
>...
>But he will do it 30+ years, after being crucified, revived and then die again anyway, teehee.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.

>>212316140
it’s basically a Nostradamus prophecy it means whatever you need it to mean

>>212316364
>if the Force is some sort of universal substrata in everything and everyone
Exactly this. Yoda literally says it's IN EVERYONE. It penetrates us, binds us, we are luminous beings not this crude matter. Yet these few hundred dudes with laser swords are the only ones who can use the force in any meaningful way and have to be ever watchful since everyone wants to use the force to do evil shit. There would be Dragonball Z Super Saiya-Jin people flying everywhere

>>212316389
>>212317369
Why did the Jedi council in TPM think the Sith were extinct even though the Force wasn't in balance?

>>212319875
pretty sure they discuss how it used to be in balance, then something started changing. Their premonitions started to become clouded and imbalanced. I guess it had been so long they didn't realize that meant there was a new Sith lord rising and playing schemes

>>212316077 (OP)
The movie is formatted in a weird way because Qui Gon is supposed to be the rebellious free thinker, but for 99% of the film he's the main authority figure who orders everyone around.

>>212316077 (OP)
The Jedi are dogmatic and out of touch.
But Qui-Gon follows the Will of the Force.
And the Force led him to find Anakin.
Simple as.

>>212316077 (OP)
The prophecy says one thing, all the Jedi say what they hope the prophecy means and start shorthanding it to "destroy the Sith and bring balance to The Force". It's a thing, they're doing a thing.

>>212316077 (OP)
And the balance will last all 3 years before Palpatine returns

>>212316140
if things are too peaceful sometimes you gotta holocaust some niggas

>>212317137
>me in the top left