Whoa.

>>212320808 (OP)
>beanhead
No wonder Elio flopped

>>212320808 (OP)
What the fuck is Elio supposed to be about
Coming out gay? Therapy?

>>212321214
It's about aliens getting deported from America (Earth) and how we have to fight against such injustice.

>>212321214
Imagine Flight of the Navigator, but replace Navigator with a different n word

>grubhub perks

>>212320808 (OP)
>and i...am monkey man!
How did they get away with this?

>>212320808 (OP)
Pixar should have just canned it. Look how fucking bad that design is

>>212320808 (OP)
Lil monkey fella

>>212320808 (OP)
he monke

>>212320808 (OP)
EliWHOA

>>212321214
Standard finding where you belong, oh shit it was where you started kind of crap. Its like they mashed the plot of Mars Needs Moms together with Flight of the Navigator and a bunch of other 80s movies. Now they revealed he was supposed to be gay as well but they cut that out because test audiences gave them death stares. Same old crap and they tried to repackage it

>>212321214
>sad brown child is bullied because he's different and finds his people elsewhere

>>212320808 (OP)

What is about wokeness that always makes it go full circle into being racist as fuck again? I mean they spent hundreds of millions on dollars to make mexicans look like gay fat monkeys. How is this not the most offensive movie ever made?

>>212324086
Because the woke crowd are the most racist fucks out there. Get Out was specifically about that and it flew over most of their heads

Dios mio… la creatura del CalArts…

>>212321214
>Coming out gay?
That was the original script, but it was abandoned.

Can't even make it past the trailer halfway. Quirky for its sake, + the character has no obvious personality.

>>212324261
It wasn't abandoned, it was cut. In other words the scenes exist, they showed them to test audiences and the audiences said no bueno. There is literally a gay Elio cut out there in in a Disney vault right now

>>212320808 (OP)
What's with this "whoa" psyop recently? It is and always was spelt "woah", not "whoa".

>>212323990
>he was supposed to be gay as well but they cut that out
I find it very difficult to believe that Yidsney, even in their current ultrapozzed state, would make a "homosexual" child character.

>>212324086
liberals have always believed that non-whites need legally mandated privileges because they're too stupid and incompetent to succeed on their own. It's a core tenet of their entire ideology.

>>212324499
>It is and always was spelt "woah", not "whoa".
retard

Took Calvins space man spiff and made it gay

>>212324086
I never even knew this movie was about mexicans, I thought it was just an ugly art style. Kid is not even brown.

>>212324526
Reports are that they tried to, and it bombed hard in test showings so they backpedaled

>>212324499
You WILL eat the bugs.
You WILL watch Elio.
You WILL spell it 'whoa'.

>>212324689
He is aryan saar

>>212320836
Lol true
Even previous Pixar beanmouth style wasn't this dumb looking

>>212323677
They probably figured they could at least break even and relegate it to Disney+ after a month or two

>>212324526
Everyone is reporting on it. The failure of the film has everyone leaking everything. What you should be asking is how many more of these bombs do they already have in the pipeline. Societal shifts in production don't happen over night. They probably have teams of people trying to "de-gay" all the crap they have in production they thought would be a hit. Everyone remembers the story from years ago about the Disney executive saying she wanted something like half of Disney characters to be gay from now on like her own "trans" children

>>212324499
whoat do you mean

>>212320808 (OP)
The only reason I know about Elio at all is seeing this image spammed on /tv/ and /co/. I have never seen an ad for Elio IRL.

>>212325017
They didn't bother advertising it well. They knew it would bomb. The trailer came out for it seemingly a year ago. People saw the trailer which shows most of the film and forgot about it. Then they suddenly released it now

>>212320808 (OP)
>my ancestor...

anime won

>>212320808 (OP)
So damn tired of this ugly artstyle. Bring back 2000s Pixar

>>212320808 (OP)
i'm confused, why isn't he dancing terribly and stuffing slop into his hideously deformed face?

>>212325350
>me when a woman of color is speaking

>>212320808 (OP)
>Libshit thinks Mexicans look like this
Fucking hell

>>212320808 (OP)
New Planet of the Apes looking good!

>>212325350
why he ears like that mane

>>212325667
heat radiation through ears, keeps them cool out in their natural desert environments

>>212325667
It’s photoshooped

>>212320808 (OP)
You know when an AI image generator remakes an image by prompting itself with a description it makes of the original? This company's one is totally blind to juzh and sass. Look how they straightened out our boy. No dainty hands, no thicc legs, no popped hip, no sass in the sash. No more sugar in the tank:(
They even made his eyepatch less lgbtdisability

>>212325783
Even computers know how to fix gays

>>212320808 (OP)
Diddy kong lookin ass

>>212320808 (OP)
A. She was a Whoa.
B. She flopped me

>>212320808 (OP)
What is this phenotype?

>>212325783
Rightly looks a little more bangable.

>>212321214

>>212321720
Joking aside, Flight of the Navigator is a shit movie.

>>212325783
This is why AI succeeding human resources is inevitable.

>why didn't anyone watch our peanut head gay mexican coming of age crap
a mystery

>>212325993
Human bean

>>212324380
I think it was less to do with the libtard test groups and more to do with the fact that Russia, China, and soon America think faggots should be burnt alive

>trying to mabel cain
why would you think this was a good idea

it sounds retarded just pitching it

>thats why I did it
....Oh

>>212324742
Why is it that this awful artstyle has become so prevalent since gays, lesbos, and troons took over animation. Steven Universe is where I first noticed it, and that show is nothing but some dykes mental illness animated

>>212326135
Machines and pre-written code only get BETTER.
Meanwhile, humans have regressed back to asking

“What is a woman.”

>>212324526
You'd better believe it

>>212326495
CalArts. That place trained an entire generation of animators to use that style

>>212326837
>>212326495
Yeah exactly.
>The film was conceived by Molina as a "personal coming-of-age story about youthful alienation."[11] Molina was inspired by his childhood growing up at a military base and eventual enrollment at the California Institute of the Arts when developing the film's story. Director Madeline Sharafian described his feelings on the private art school by saying "he felt like he'd found his people there, he'd found his world".

>>212326152
lost

>>212325783
casey neistat teeth

>>212326495
>>212326837
>>212326898
Also these people always self-insert into the stories, they are just a bunch of egomaniac faggots

>>212327336
Truth. Its seems like every recent pixar movie was some faggot who was telling their personal story. Nobody gives a shit, gaywads

>>212326495
Aaide from it being a tool of communist subversion of beauty and body positivity, lots of economic reasons.
Because it's easy and art schools get federal funding in proportion to the number of students they take on, regardless of how talentless they are.
Then they can saturate the market with talentless hacks trained in this shitty style who will work for beans.
Then everyone else thinks this style is prevalent so it must be popular, and they imitate it because they are also talentless hacks looking for a bandwagon.
This is why I don't feel the least bit bad

>>212327336
Many creators infuse their own life experiences and insights into their work. It's some form of self-insert too. Or a reflection of the creator.

Self-insert isn't the problem. The creator being stupid, woke, or a talentless hack is the problem.

>>212327435
*bad about AI totally replacing these shitty animation studios

>>212327441
>Many creators infuse their own life experiences and insights into their work
I mean, of course, you can only write with the concepts you have about reality that are directly linked to your life experience, but there's ways to do it subtle and interesting.

These frauds just go for straight analogies, "I felt alienated in my childhood so I'm going to make a story about how I'm more comfortable with aliens!"

>>212324742
Weird. WEIRD!

>>212326495
it started with Flapjack, Chowder, and Adventure Time. they had the proto beany look all the way back in 2008.

>>212327608
True.
They don't understand that their personal experiences, which they hold so dear, aren't necessarily interesting to the general public.
Every creator must learn the term ‘mass appeal,’ unless their father is a Saudi oil prince and they have no need to make money or recoup the cost.

>>212327978
Flapjack and Chowder were decent, at least. Adventure Time started off good and then did a 180 and became a lame romance drama for girls

>>212326112
Fuck you, nigger, that's my childhood you're shitting on. The cute little alien thing was cute. CUTE.

>>212328212
Now that I think about it, Adventure Time is one of the first examples of something that was mainly aimed at boys that was ruined to cater to girls, and it happened mid series run. Crazy how many male oriented ips it happened to afterwards. It was like a canary in a coal mine

>>212328212
they were objective downgrades over what CN was airing five years earlier.
my point was those were the 'foot in the door' series for what people used to call CalArts and now call beany-mouth/grubhub art design and writing.

uma delicia

Wtf gay little monkey

>>212324742
I fucking hate modern Pixar style so much.
Incredibles is still their best looking 3D animated movie to this date because they actually made it unique.
It's a shame the sequel was bad in both writing and visuals, almost all of the new characters and background characters became generic Pixar retards that do nothing but smile and grin and stare at the main character that's talking in every single shot they're in and it clashes horribly with the main cast from the first movie.
Fuck Disney. They killed Pixar.

>>212320808 (OP)
Whoabros...

>>212325783
lefts cuter

>>212320808 (OP)
>sub 80 mil box office on a 150-200mil budget, not counting marketing
Pixar fucked up bad with this one. I suspect the lack of marketing was a way of cutting their losses

>>212329073
good pixar died when they started overmilking good IPs. zombie pixar will be shutdown in idk maybe 5-10 years at this rate.

>>212320808 (OP)

>>212326495

>>212324086
Because it's DEI for the sake of DEI. Compare with Coco, that movie is all Mexicans and doesn't feels like pandering or DEI.

>>212330587
It's a shame because all of Pixar's classic films were products of extreme risk-taking and desire to innovate. Now they're just told by Disney to milk their classics and play it as safe as possible.

>>212320808 (OP)
Recent Pixar films have the same flaw: they are primarily written as a therapy exercise for the director and/or writers, rather than as entertainment. The protagonists are self-inserts whose central challenge is just the director's childhood sexual insecurity and awkward puberty, probably awakened in some overpaid psychologist's office in coastal California, cast onscreen. Consider Turning Red and its focus on Asian parenting as the villain, Luca and its very obvious faggoty metaphor, Elio and being a misunderstood gay military brat/Glordon being forced to 'fit in' his father's suit. You can contrast these more recent failures with earlier Pixar hits, which were well-written high-concept comedies about non-human characters with human characteristics and charm that could appeal to younger and older audiences. One did not need to be a toy to appreciate Toy Story, a robot to appreciate WALL-E or a cyclops to enjoy Monsters Inc.

>>212320808 (OP)
Padre en los cielos... El Atrocidad...

>>212320808 (OP)
Is this supposed to be subliminal programming that nigger heads are normal

dr seuss lookin ass

>>212331146
Good analysis

>>212330779
At least Gumball blends a bunch of animation styles and actually takes risks

>>212327608
>you can only write with the concepts you have about reality that are directly linked to your life experience

what? stop typing

>>212321214
>my mom doesn't understand me, I'll show her! And then at the end she will say that I am right and she was wrong!
So the same shit as Elemental, Turning Red, Luca, Encanto. It's like the defining characteristic for second gen browns and asians in America and Canada.

>>212320808 (OP)
Looks genuinely worse than Pixar's early 2000s CGI

>>212326495
I've never watched Stephen Universe because the art style alone is repulsive, but I heard a really funny theory that Stephen Universe is just Dragon Ball fanfiction. Unfortunately I cant elaborate beyond that because I never bothered with Dragon Ball either.

>>212324875
I'm glad we didn't accelerate too quickly past this phase.
We might be at the stage where audiences are sick of this shit being forced on them, but we're still at the point where writers are indignant enough at being rejected to air out the shit they really ought to be keeping quiet.
There's no way to dismiss these grooming fucks as just a conspiracy now.

>>212324526
Isn't Strange World about gay kids? It's not like this would be the first time. I just think it's hilarious the jackasses who worked on this are insisting the reason it failed is because it wasn't gay enough.

>>212332727
It is, at the start at least. After that it becomes Lesbian Venting.

I still think it's crazy how the west perfected the mix of 2D animation and 3D back in Titan A.E and Treasure Planet (over 20 years ago btw) then gave up on it overnight to pursue 3D animation only. Not even Japan still can replicate the mastery achieved in those flicks yet, and their entire shtick is animation.

>>212333059
Titan A.E wasn't that good because it was only done out of desperation (the entire movie was supposed to be drawn, but they ran out of time) but I agree Treasure Planet is gorgeous to this day

>>212333059
Yeah essentially the West had master animators teaching the next generation of master animators for an unbroken chain of decades. Then, early 00s comes along and they decide to forsake all that knowledge because 3D finally got cheap. It's a fucking tragedy.

monke

>>212333098
>(the entire movie was supposed to be drawn, but they ran out of time)
wasn't deep canvas developed in this movie?

>>212333059
>perfected in Treasure Planet
I tried to watch this and after a few minutes my eyes just couldn't take it

>>212333195
(I can't remember what exactly but there was something unbearable in how the stuff was squiggling around the screen, hurts the eyes. Bad idea for animation, bad direction. Over-animation or something, without the right smoothing)

>HAHA GUYS THIS CARTOON KID LOOK FUNNY FROM THE SIDE

Unironically touch some grass.

>>212333059
I'm pretty sure they did it in Beauty and the Beast like a decade earlier.

>>212324086
What about Elio is woke?

>>212330779
Holy shit it's sans from the hit indie game undertale
Also gumball doesn't really fit here at all he rarely, if ever, actually looks like that in the show

>>212333260
oh my god dude

>>212333059
Imagine how much more animated kino we could've gotten if only Treasure Planet and Iron Giant never flopped

I'm just gonna say it. He cute.

>>212333169
Nope, Tarzan at least used deep canvas before Titan A.E, but not sure if it was developed for Tarzan either
I think Iron Giant also used deep canvas? Not sure. But it did come out a year before Titan, same as Tarzan.

>>212333305
Answer the question.

>>212333333
Iron Giant flopping is such a crime against arts and humanity as a whole. Imagine making something so profound only for it to completely flop due to bad marketing, and because it flopped it almost pushed one of the most passionate and talented animation directors out of the industry entirely.
Nice numbers btw

>>212333059
Is the making of of these movies even documented? The processes, drawings, how did they achieve certain scenes, etc?

>>212333431
A lot of the time, yeah but often not all that thoroughly
Sometimes directors give entire talks on certain scenes for conferences, but a lot of the time it's just a small extra that comes with the physical movie
Treasure planet has this for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzgjLxwUcrQ

>>212333333
3s of truth

>>212333396
Completely agree. It's the only film I've watched multiple times that still pulls at my heart with the ending no matter what. It's stands right on the same level as some of the other true great animated films like Spirited Away and such, ever since I got older and found out it flopped so badly I completely lost faith in the industry. How could some faggot corpo watch this and think "this won't resonate with viewers" https://youtu.be/mz5RfjbImpI?si=dMc_ZQQ7zHQne-0N

>>212333098
Titan A.E. was supposed to be a live action flick called "Planet Ice," but they reworked it into a cartoon for no reason (i.e. an excuse to kill off Fox Animation). Bluth was only brought on as a last minute hail mary, but the studio knew it would still fail. It ended up flopping so hard, the vidya adaptation was cancelled.

>>212320808 (OP)
Looks like a booba

>>212333378
Let's see a gay, brown director makes a movie about how its boring growing up among straight people and how thankful he was that that adult gays ('aliens') abducted him from his lame straight family. NOTE: This movie was made, only the (aliens part is allegorical, the child character was outright gay and shown ogling a black teenager boy) and shown to some Pixar head who said 'Fuck Is This?' and fired that guy and gave the movie to two women to try to hide some of the faggotry.
They took it out of the story, but didn't change the design of the character e.g.
>>212333334
>>212325783

>>212324086
This is why I love wokeslop. Notice how every black man must be gay now. Wokeness treats nons are helpless little monkeys lost in a White universe.

>>212324580
>liberals have always believed that non-whites need legally mandated privileges because they're too stupid and incompetent to succeed on their own. It's a core tenet of their entire ideology.
Liberals are more correct than Conservatives

>>212320808 (OP)
wtf they whitewashed vini jr?

>>212320808 (OP)
literally picrel

>>212333396
Iron Giant did well in the Home Entertainment market and got a blu ray release in 2016.

>>212320808 (OP)
Every recent Disney and Pixar movie feels like the creator holding you as a captive audience and venting about their childhood. As someone in another thread put it, kids won’t watch a movie about a character they would bully IRL.

>>212333241
Yeah I normally don't like the blended 3D/2D look but bringing it out for just that one scene where it's supposed to look overly extravagant was great. I never saw Treasure Planet but other places where Disney tried it like the tree in Pocahontas and the spaceships in Lilo & Stitch felt odd. I think you can only mix mediums if you fully commit to it in those scenes. I think The Lion King only used it for minor background stuff which can work but it's been too long since I've seen it to really judge.

>>212333333
We could have had a timeline where animation was almost as respected and mature as live action, but everyone wanted the farting ogre instead.

>>212327978
motherfucker do NOT equate Flapjack or Chowder to CalArts shit

>>212333396
The problem with Iron Giant is that even the few marketing it had made the movie look boring. When my dad brought the VHS I expected a boring generic sci-fi robot movie, instead got absolute KINO, only The Incredibles have managed to scratch that itch.

>>212333239
Sorry I can't, I eated it all.

>>212334982
Flapjack is just "we got Spengbab at Home".

>>212335032
as much as i want to disagree with your fagotic opinion, i know it in my heart to be true
but i still love Flapjack

>>212335078
To be fair, Flapjack is still better than 90% of post-Movie Spengbab.

>>212333786
>blablabla gays and brown

>>212335001
>both directed by brad bird
>both deeply personal to him
man, what a cool guy

>>212335296
spengebab squireboob

>>212320808 (OP)
he looks like a fucking ape

>>212335032
and it was awesome, such a shame that it ended up opening pandora's box for the shows with cancerous shitty art styles.