Surprisingly, an excellent Fourth of July film.

Indeed, Oliver Stone may be one of the most based major directors in Hollywood history. Even if he refuses to name the J.

>>212362163
>may be one of the most based major directors in Hollywood history
Something I find really interesting about movies like this is how well they've aged given there's been pretty much nothing like it made since (closest comps would probably be American Sniper and Warfare, but even then those movies weren't as explicitly damning against the government's role in those wars as the Vietnam movies were). There was this little window from after Vietnam ended to before the Cold War ended that you could make these really serious, dark, intelligent films that were deeply critical of the U.S government and the MIC particularly from the perspective of White Americans. Now stuff like that would never get produced, which makes movies like this all the more important and all the more timeless.
>Even if he refuses to name the J
If a movie like this about the Iraq War came out in 2025 I guarantee it'd be considered antisemitic propaganda and smeared as such all over the place.

>>212362122 (OP)
>an excellent Fourth of July film
Unironically the parade scenes at the start were such a brilliant way to start off the kino

currently streaming on cytube btw

>>212362122 (OP)
>born on the fourth of july
>actor is actually born on the third
Like pottery.

I might watch my laserdisc copy of this tonight

>>212363387
>laserdisc copy
This is the way

>>212362122 (OP)
I have to watch this movie at some point, but every time I hear it being mentioned I think of this scene out of context and it never fails to make me laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACSE67V2dJE

>Do you remember when we used to sing?
>Sha-la-la, la-la, la-la, la-la, la-la tee-da
>Just like that
>Sha-la-la, la-la, la-la, la-la, la-la tee-da, la-tee-da

>>212362122 (OP)
ain't watched this shit, cruise fans are all closeted homosexuals

>>212362825
We're about due for some Iraq/Afghanistan anti-war kino. Most of the ones I've seen have just been propaganda like Zero Dark.

>>212364137
>We're about due for some Iraq/Afghanistan anti-war kino
Check out picrel if you've got the time. I thought it was fantastic and arguably the best American war film since FMJ.

>>212364047
>YOU PEOPLE
>>212364038
>"WE DON'T SAY PENIS IN THIS HOUSE RON"
>"BIG FUCKING, ERECT PENIS!"

>>212364068
>cruise fans are all closeted homosexuals
But what about Oliver Stone fans?

>>212364068
He's objectively handsome. Wouldn't you wish your son looked like him?

>>212364038
for me, it's the wheelchair fight

>>212365459
>YOU WEREN'T THERE
>FUCK YOU

>>212363340
thoughts?

>>212367325
The entire Vets/anti-viatnam activists schism was a Soviet psyop that worked surprisingly well.

>>212367736
>was a Soviet psyop
Elaborate. I know that the Soviets did a lot to promote anti-war stuff since the beginning but I don't think I've heard of this angle, especially given the G.I movement was arguably the most effective faction opposing the war.

>>212367827
Well they were the ones who seeded and promoted all the JFK conspiracy threadlines

>>212367883
>promoted all the JFK conspiracy threadlines
I mean, obviuosuly given it sows dissent. That's what all intel agencies do. But I highly doubt they were the ones that seeded them as a whole given how widely varied theories are about him.

>>212362122 (OP)
>Ron Kovic?
>More like Wrong, No Dick!

>>212362122 (OP)
It’s so weird that his nephew is the Inside Gaming guy.

>>212363370
>actor plays 80s Cold War propaganda gigachad and becomes the de facto face of the MIC
>proves he has range by going in the exact opposite direction in a complicated anti-war film where he's a paraplegic manlet
Genius, really.

>>212367736
>The entire Vets/anti-viatnam activists schism was a Soviet psyop
huh?