Thread 212379636 - /tv/ [Archived: 896 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/5/2025, 7:56:57 PM No.212379636
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>prequel movies
>jedi everywhere
>swinging their glow sticks and jumping and running around and moving shit with their frickin' mind
>they're even part of the government pretty much

>like 20-30 years later
>"yeahhh that shit all fake and gay lmaooo"
kinda retarded, but incredibly based as well
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 7:59:52 PM No.212379740
>>212379636 (OP)
he didnt have Fox News Galactic to see events on other planets.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:15:55 PM No.212380209
>>212379636 (OP)
A galaxy is a big place.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:19:52 PM No.212380329
>>212379636 (OP)
Han denies the existence of Order 66 and the Jedi Genocide.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:30:08 PM No.212380667
>>212380329
why was he so antisithmitic??
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:32:22 PM No.212380738
>>212379636 (OP)
There were only 10,000 Jedi in a galaxy with thousands of populated worlds, retard. Literally one Jedi per planet at best. Most people had never even seen a Jedi before the Empire wiped them out.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:38:35 PM No.212380916
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>>212379636 (OP)
To the casual observer a "Jedi" is really just a dude swinging around a very impractical light sword who dies easily to clone troopers. There isn't anything magical about them. Usually when they do crazy stuff like lift an X-Wing there isn't any normie around.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:39:23 PM No.212380941
>>212380209
Not this one, everyone knows each other and/or is related in this Galaxy
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:44:49 PM No.212381113
>>212380738
So? You don't need to have personally seen something to know it exists (or did exist). They aren't medieval peasants, they have the technology to communicate and travel instantaneously anywhere in the galaxy. The Jedi and the Republic were likely still around when Han was a child. And even if they weren't, literally anyone that's at least 10 years older than him could have told him about everything.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:47:52 PM No.212381199
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>>212380738
he literally hung out with yoda
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:49:05 PM No.212381231
>>212381113
Ok I decided to actually check it myself, and Han was 13 when the Republic fell and all the Jedi were killed.
Him acting like they were just some ancient myth and believing it was all made up is completely ridiculous in retrospect.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:49:45 PM No.212381249
>>212379636 (OP)
>jedi everywhere
They weren't everywhere. There were like 200 jedi who were 90% on corruscant.
Then the war happened and they spread out. Then 99% of them were killed off. Most people in the galaxy never saw or met one.
(Filoni wank isn't canon btw)
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:51:32 PM No.212381300
>>212379636 (OP)
you don't even have to go back that far. all of the jedi and sith currently alive in the world use their powers openly, in public, throughout the movie.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:52:32 PM No.212381325
>>212381249
imagine defending this crap
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:53:36 PM No.212381354
Sheeve mind tricked the galaxy into forgetting about the clone wars.

Itโ€™s impossible anymore dude was building entire star fleets from force magic. bravo disney
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:57:18 PM No.212381457
>>212380916
JEDI SWAT Put your arms up and your wings down!
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:58:45 PM No.212381505
>>212379636 (OP)
What was the actual point of the prequels if we already knew what was going to happen?
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:01:04 PM No.212381573
>>212381325
>imagine knowing anything about the stuff you criticise
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:05:25 PM No.212381687
>>212381573
the lucas-felating explanation you gave wasn't any less stupid
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:06:06 PM No.212381701
>>212379636 (OP)
>Han Solo: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are not a good match for a blaster at your side, kid.
>Luke Skywalker: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
>Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other; I've seen a lot of strange stuff. But I've never seen anything to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny. Anyway, it's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
What is about this dialog that seems to make people believe Han sees the Jedi as a myth? He is basically calling them religious conmen.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:07:27 PM No.212381741
>thousands of years of Christian history
>"nah I don't believe in God"
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:08:24 PM No.212381766
>>212381701
>been all over the galaxy
>somehow never once spoke to somebody slightly older than him who could tell him that they personally saw Jedi actually lifting crap with their mind before back in the day
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:13:30 PM No.212381921
>>212381741
show me Christians levitating or choking people with their mind
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:13:38 PM No.212381928
>>212381766
You believe everything people tell you? or do you need to see it for yourself?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:15:25 PM No.212381981
>>212381921
There are buddhist monks that can levitate and Jesus brought someone back to life from death
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:17:31 PM No.212382053
>>212381766
>who could tell him that they personally saw Jedi actually lifting crap with their mind before back in the day
My uncle was absucted by aliens, everyone in his town agreed
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:19:39 PM No.212382134
>>212381981
>There are buddhist monks that can levitate
even if you believe this is true they aren't Christian so you get a zero for reading comprehension
>Jesus brought someone back to life from death
yeah and spider-man fought the hobgoblin
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:19:44 PM No.212382139
>>212381928
>>212382053
Do you? Do you not believe a country is real unless you've personally been there? Do you not believe in the existence of any animal you haven't seen with your own eyes in real life?

As has already been said, Han was 13 goddamn years old when the Jedi were wiped out. It's not some far flung myth from the ancient past, it happened within his own living memory. Even if he'd never personally met a Jedi, there's absolutely no way he'd never once heard any news about the order of laser sword wielding wizards that worked for the government that ruled his planet.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:20:40 PM No.212382165
>>212382139
>Do you not believe a country is real unless you've personally been there? Do you not believe in the existence of any animal you haven't seen with your own eyes in real life?
correct, and only a fool would do otherwise
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:21:43 PM No.212382209
>>212382165
>hehe what if I act stupid on purpose that will be clever XD
I accept your concession.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:22:57 PM No.212382255
>>212382139
>there's absolutely no way he'd never once heard any news about the order of laser sword wielding wizards that worked for the government that ruled his planet.
He did, he just thought they were conmen. Again nothing he says indicates the dumb belief that Han sees them as a myth.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:27:08 PM No.212382381
>>212382209
>kicks you in the head
I accept your concussion
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:29:02 PM No.212382438
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>>212381687
>lucas-felating explanation you gave
Not even. That guy gave you his wrong head-canon explanation, yet for some reason he acts all high and mighty. According to Lucas, there were hundreds of survivors, and there were tens of thousands of Jedi originally.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:31:23 PM No.212382512
What's even dumber is that imperial guy that Vader chokes in New Hope. He was literally a Republic officer in the Clone Wars. He would've fought side-by-side with Jedi
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:32:27 PM No.212382557
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What was the original idea with this anyway?
>Jedi defended galaxy for a 1000 generations
>Your dad betrayed me and helped the Emperor take over
>Also some guy at Vader's meeting doesn't believe in Jedi or the Force
Even going off of just ANH and NOTHING ELSE, it seems that the Emperor rose to power within the past 30 years and the Jedi went extinct.
Either that, or there were only like a handful of Jedi before the Empire came to power anyway

Im just saying, even without the Prequels its weird. Go rewatch "Return," if it werent for Obi-Wans monologue in the first film you'd assume that this evil dark wizard nigga has been ruling the galaxy for centuries.
Not 30 fucking years
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:35:15 PM No.212382652
>>212382139
>no way he'd never once heard any news about the order of laser sword wielding wizards that worked for the government that ruled his planet.
That's not what Han said
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:36:22 PM No.212382691
>>212382255
That kind of excuse might work if Han had grown up in an isolated dirt farming village with a population of 15 and no electricity, who never left his hometown and traveled anywhere else until he was in his mid-20s.
But he wasn't. He was born on a technologically advanced planet where ships that can travel faster than light to anywhere in the galaxy are commonplace and holograms can be recorded and transmitted anywhere in real time.
The idea that Jedi were running all over the galaxy during the clone wars, which Han would have been alive during, blatantly using their powers for everyone to see and record, and yet huge portions of the Galaxy's population somehow never saw or heard anything but rumors about all of it is fucking retarded.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:40:09 PM No.212382812
>>212382557
In ANH, Vader and Anakin were separate characters. Anakin was a Jedi Knight and Ben's friend, his contemporary; Vader was Ben's young pupil, who betrayed him and murdered Anakin. This is why Vader says, "When I left you I was but the learner" on Death Star. Anakin was not a learner - he was a Jedi Knight, same as Ben. This line still doesn't make sense with the ESB retcon. ANH is a standalone movie. Anakin and Vader were separate, Leia was not Luke's sister.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:40:20 PM No.212382817
>>212382691
We live in a world of floating metal rockets that carry people acroas the world and people still don't believe God effects reality
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:40:36 PM No.212382828
>>212382438
>bunch of stuff that wasn't in any of the films
lmao imagine being this dumb
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:44:18 PM No.212382937
>>212382828
No one in the films took a shit or had sex. I guess those things never happen. Smartest 4channeler.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:44:26 PM No.212382941
>>212382139
This isn't like denying a country exists, this is like denying Shaolin monks have magical powers.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:46:13 PM No.212382996
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>>212382139
>Even if he'd never personally met a Jedi, there's absolutely no way he'd never once heard any news about the order of laser sword wielding wizards that worked for the government that ruled his planet.
There is documented proof of Aikido masters using Chi to take down enemies without touching them, and you still don't believe it!
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:47:34 PM No.212383042
>>212382941
If Shaolin monks had fought in a massive globe spanning war less than 20 years ago where they regularly showed off these powers for everyone to see, and every nearby camera to record, and I could see those powers working on video on the news, and talk to multiple people older than myself who told stories about seeing it happen with their own eyes, then I might be willing to believe in those powers even if I never personally saw it myself.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:49:08 PM No.212383086
>>212383042
Yeah like Aikido masters
"Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything,"
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:51:26 PM No.212383164
>>212383086
>Yeah like Aikido masters
No, not like aikido masters. Because aikido masters don't actually have magic powers. The Jedi did.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:51:46 PM No.212383175
>>212382937
>we never saw Anakin in the middle of sex but that doesn't mean he didn't have a scat fetish
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:52:42 PM No.212383206
>>212383164
But I've seen pictures, video, and heard stories!
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:54:00 PM No.212383248
>>212383206
What stories? What videos? What pictures?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:56:02 PM No.212383312
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>>212383248
>>212382996
I even personally know someone who des Aikido classes so that means it's all true
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:58:36 PM No.212383415
>>212382512
>denies the force is real in front of Vader
>gets force strangled by Vader to prove to him it is real
>the strangling give some brain damage so he immediately forgets it happened
>denies the force in front of Vader again

It's a vicious cycle.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:00:22 PM No.212383478
>>212379636 (OP)
If memory serves correctly, the only place with a high concentration of Jedi was the temple on Coruscant. Iโ€™m not sure if they gave public tours, if not then yeah thereโ€™s a low chance any citizen not living on the top level of Coruscant would even meet a Jedi. Maybe one out of thousands but even the likelihood they witnessed force powers being used would be even less.

Thatโ€™s for the planet where there were hundreds if not a few thousand Jedi, among a population in the trillions. Jedi who went on missions across the galaxy were in very small groups, they were likely to meet important figures (political, military, economic, etc) but for the vast majority of people living on those planets the they probably only heard of those Jedi through second-hand accounts.


That being said there were a few planets that had inherent connections to the force, people living there would be much more likely to meet a Jedi in their lifetime. However, as the Clone Wars raged, it increased the chances a civilian would at least see a Jedi in battle, but theyโ€™d have to be at one of those planets at the right time and right place.

Our perspective as the audience follows the Jedi heavily so it seems like we see them all the time but to the average person in the galaxy they are but battle-monk legends. Conflicting stories, descriptions, etc would make it hard to distinguish truth from fiction, unless you were one of those few lucky people who came across them.


During the Empires reign? Very, very low chance of ever meeting one, and because of Imperial influence, we can assume even speaking of the Jedi was enough to be sent in for reeducation. Anyone who had firsthand knowledge of them probably kept it to themselves for the most part. By the time someone like Han spoke of them they were equivalent to superstition. Maybe battle monks were a thing before, but the force? Thatโ€™s just hocus pocus.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:02:09 PM No.212383544
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>"ancient religion"
>just disappeared 19 years ago
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:03:23 PM No.212383593
>>212383544
>"ancient chinese secret"
>the guy just used it ten minutes ago
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:04:12 PM No.212383616
>>212379636 (OP)
My brother convinced me to watch all the 6 movies back in 2014 and I'm still mad I wasted my time with them. The only redeeming thing about it is the soundtrack and the princess in the hot costume
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:04:55 PM No.212383649
>>212379636 (OP)
Why didn't Chewbacca tell him about Yoda?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:18:22 PM No.212384043
>>212383649
Clearly Han and Chewbacca, despite supposedly being best friends for years, never talked about their past together to almost any degree, and even if they did talk they didn't trust each other enough to believe what the other said.
>the force? Lmao that's just made up bullsit
>Actually Han, I met the leader of the Jedi and fought alongside him less than two decades ago, and saw him lifting and throwing stormtroopers with his mind.
>Shut up furnigger no you didn't!

Yep, that has to be it. It couldn't possibly be that George Lucas clumsily retconned a ton of stuff while making the prequels.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:26:57 PM No.212384287
>>212384043
>furnigger
They're called nerfherders. It's a very strong term and only some are allowed to say it with the hard r. Generally everyone says nerfherda.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:31:22 PM No.212384422
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>jedi have super powers therefore their religion must be true
Everyone arguing that Hanโ€™s skepticism is a plot hole is retarded. Everyone (except for Luke the country bumpkin) knows what that Jedi existed, what their ideology was, what powers they had (Jabba calls out the Jedi mind trick by name). Even if their numbers were never great Jedi had enough notoriety to be know in all republic space (Anakin knows who Jedi are in Episode I).

Han, the Imperial Officer, etc. deny the Jediโ€™s ideology: that there is a supernatural transcendent Force that connects all life in the universe and will bring about good if you trust It. And considering everyone that adhered to that faith got slaughtered, itโ€™s a pretty reasonable conclusion to make.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:33:36 PM No.212384484
>>212381741
>thousands of years is the same as 2 decades
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:35:14 PM No.212384539
>>212382139
>yeah bro there's a country called isreal trust me just look at the name
psyop, just like the whole "jew" thing
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:38:48 PM No.212384660
>>212379636 (OP)
Think of jedi like of jews. In 1940 jews and their evil was common knowledge. In 1950 what jews what international jewry are you talking about silly they are a myth.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:42:10 PM No.212384766
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I was always under the impression that the Empire pushed hard USSR style censorship and propoganda suppressing any info on the jedi which essentially made everyone forget or too afraid to talk about them