>IS THAT A RESPECTABLE JOB WITH MATCHING 401K DEPOSITS, 2 WEEK VACATION ALLOWANCE, MEDICAL INSURANCE AND A CLEAR PATH FOR UPWARD MOBILITY?????
>AIIIIEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!!!!

>>212407607 (OP)
Is this thread supposed to be sarcastic? I can never tell

The 40 hour work week and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>212407692
>The 40 hour work week and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
I don't understand why companies are so resistant to a 4 day work week. Every single trial that has been held with a 4 day work week has shown positive results. The big wigs must be sadists and get off of seeing people suffer.

>>212407607 (OP)
yes, but it was stupid, so there's that.

>>212407731
Top management is a bunch of retarded "back in my day..." boomers.

>>212407607 (OP)
No job security and up getting layoff again because yet another company is downsizing without warning.
Oh no getting a job is complete bullshit! Time to burn it down

>>212407607 (OP)
>two week vacation allowance
that’s almost nothing

>>212407793
most companies in america dont even give you vacation

>>212407607 (OP)
Two week vacation? Damn, dude.

>>212407607 (OP)
Gen X’ers fucked us just as hard as boomers by not laying out a future for us. Whining about their pies-easy jobs.

>>212407809
I’m a burger and I started out at 20 days vacation at my hiring. Just a few years in and I’m already at 35 days

Bruh I don’t want to work and I couldn’t be in any more of a perfect position to…. do something, but I straight up am better off doing nothing.

>>212407607 (OP)
>only 2 weeks vacation
that's pretty dystopian

>>212407876
why not get it from day 1? kek
Do you want people to change positions, teams, etc just to hunt for more vacation days and benefits?

>>212407914
The more years with the company, the most PTO you get. It’s not determined by your job position, retard.

What's the incentive for working these days?

>>212407607 (OP)
This meme has been beaten to fucking death

Literally what more is there to say on this topic...

why are people still making these threads

>>212407731
Gotta squeeze every last bit of profit margins off intelligent hard-working Americans.

I’m a neetleech and considering working at Dunkin Donuts for free covfefe and shit. Good idea? Bad idea?

>>212407914
it's how they reward loyalty. my company does the same thing.

>>212407607 (OP)
You really didn't have to use the n-slur
It wasn't funny and just makes you look like an idiot

>>212407988
Depends. Some areas make it more profitable to be a NEET than to work a minimum wage job so investigate that first.

>>212407966
>This meme has been beaten to fucking death
>Literally what more is there to say on this topic...
>why are people still making these threads
Work and the consequences from industrial society will never go out as a conversation starter.

>>212407957
Not going homeless

>>212408074
This and fuck any slave who dislikes these threads. They’re maximum comfycozy.

>>212407692
40 hours? When I was working on wall street I’d be fucking HAPPY if I only worked 90 hours… bunch of faggots

>>212407607 (OP)
>2 weeks/ year
do mutts really?

>>212408024
>t. Niggerman

>>212408123
Idiot
Say that to a black person face and see what happens

>>212407692
>The 40 hour work week and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
To be fair people fought and died to put reasonable limits on work someone can be made to do without fair compensation.
You can bemoan the 40 hour work week all you want, but post industrialization your alternative is far far worse.

>>212407809
So most people never go on vacation?
Or do they simply go on vacation using unpaid days off?
> t. European with 7 weeks vacation

>>212407607 (OP)
All he had to do was go home and lift and do some pull ups/push ups whilst at work

But dumb lazy NPC are too stupid to do this. They will take anti depressants and cry and look sad instead

>>212408113
Most places 2 weeks paid vacation a year is sort of the entry level vacation allowance. Depending on policy time rolls over year to year, and you usually get more time with seniority.
Things like sick time are usually considered separate from vacation time. On top of whatever holidays are observed across the company (christmas, new years, 4th of july, etc).

>>212408177
We haven't needed to work this much for a very long time.
Not everyone needs to work to keep things running either.

>>212407607 (OP)
>CLEAR PATH FOR UPWARD MOBILITY
lol, lmao even

>>212408194
Unless you are working an unskilled job, most Americans do in fact get vacation days.

>>212408194
The only jobs that don't give you paid time off are shitty service jobs, and even fast food will give you PTO if you qualify (working full time hours over a fiscal year).
If its gig or contract work well then that's just the nature of the beast.
But yeah, I know when I was working as a line cook in a kitchen I scheduled my time off by just telling my boss I couldn't work days X, Y, Z. Sometimes you just trade shifts with someone (cover me friday and I'll take your shitty shift next week).

>>212408324
Dang you served in Wendy’s 04-06? Semper fry brother!

>>212407692
The 40 hour work week only really exists in Canada and the USA, the rest of the world it's really more like 25 tops and even then they look at you like a workaholic for working that much

>>212408248
Fake graph.

>>212407809
I have 5 weeks and still feels like slavery
2 weeks or less sound like a nightmare.

>>212408248
>automation makes workers more efficient with less effort
>that means I should be paid more!!

>>212408421
That’s quite a leap.

>>212407607 (OP)
If you fuckers aren't maxing your 401k's every year while also maxing your IRAs then you deserve to be poor when you get old.
>b-but I want muh money now to pay to watch keeenos
I don't care, invest that shit.

>>212407731
At one point i worked for a company that let me do 4 10 hour days and I was a lot happier with my free time and I feel like I got more done in a day. 8 hours isn't really enough time to do meaningful work and by the end of the week everyone's burnt out and just phoning it in killing time.

>>212408463
>working instead of investing
NGMI

>>212408369
No, Shlomo, productivity did, in fact, skyrocket with the advent of computers and other types of automatization, with the excess value being sucked up by parasitic elements.

>>212408421
It's not just about pay, it's about the amount of work.
People don't need to work as much for the same output.
The only reason they do is so the parasites at the top can pump out more shit, which they make as flimsy as possible so it survives until the warranty period at best.

remember a few decades ago when everybody thought that liberal capitalism would be the final form of government and would last indefinitely?
good times... i hope most of us will make it out the other side alright

>>212408369
Big nose

>>212408518
>No, Shlomo, productivity did, in fact, skyrocket with the advent of computers and other types of automatization, with the excess value being sucked up by parasitic elements.
The graph is fake, and it got corrected by its own authors.
No, productivity didn't skyrocket with computers.

https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-the-pay-productivity-gap/

>>212408555
No? People fucking hated America starting with 9/11. It was like a switch was flipped. 2008 was the last straw.

>>212408620
No, Shlomo, there is plenty more data that shows there is a disconnect.

>>212408366
>the rest of the world it's really more like 25 tops
No, it isn't. You don't know what you're talking about and you're probably some eurofaggot who thinks the netherlands = the rest of the world

>>212408722
That's literally the same data, and it's explained on the link I provided.

His problem was that he had a mindless dead-end job, and then went home to his mindless dead-end life
He had no hobbies or goals, professional or personal
He was just empty as a person, and sure maybe his job was partly to blame for sapping the soul out of him, but he didn't fight it
>>212407731
Last ywar my office announced a new flexible working policy - do an extra day's worth in a fortnight, take one friday off. So basically every other friday off.
The next day they deannounced it. Turns out our american office heard about it and kicked off, declaring that if they weren't going to do it, we couldn't either.

>>212408782
>The Foundation for Economic Education is an American conservative, libertarian economic think tank. Founded in 1946 in New York City, FEE is now headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia. It is a member of the State Policy Network. FEE offers publications, lectures, and student workshops promoting free market principles.

>>212408732
Holy cope

>>212407731
I've done 4 day and 5 day work weeks in corporate tech sales, and have a reasonable explanation for an advantage of a 5 day work week. When I did 4 days, I tremendously enjoyed having a 3rd day off and also had an easier time planning for longer vacations since I only had to get 4 days off and bookend two weekends to get a total of 10 days off. However, even though my work life balance was much better, 4 days at the office meant one day when I was not at the office, so my clients were up shit's creek if they needed something on the day I wasn't there, which typically ended up being a monday. My boss stayed on the 5 day to act as coverage for major issues, but obviously the extra work did not make my boss happy and meant she was working more hours. Now that I am back to 5 days, there is a more equitable distribution of the workload required for my role and I am available every day of the work week to handle urgent matters. I do definitely miss the perks of having an extra day off, but I unquestionably make more money working 5 days. The solution is to give each employee the option to choose, but standardization simplifies scheduling.

>>212408555
Current situation reminds me a lot of what I read about late USSR: no one believes in the system

>sunday
>arguing about work
Why are Americans like this?

>>212409054
You're right, isn't it the sabbath or something? I better head to Synagoge

https://youtu.be/c_Ot1OEfk9I

>>212408964
The solution is to have two sets of employees who each work four days a week with the last day as a crossover day. But that scares Monday through Friday fags.

>>212407731
Id even take 4 10s easily over 5 8s. Just give me a 3 day weekend. 2 days isn't enough to even unwind and do much

>>212409089
https://youtu.be/Cx1J2CzNnS8

>>212408782
Even without any data, you can see with your own eyes that more is being produced, while the workers outside a few meme fields like IT are struggling while the C-suite and political parasites are living it up better than ever before.

>>212408463
bold of you to assume I'll reach the age for retirement

>>212407607 (OP)
>LOOK MOMMY I MADE THE THREAD AGAIN!
Just fucking stop.

>>212409098
But why would a company bother with that? Consider my scenario, where I am the manager of my book of business and my team mates are managing their respective bobs. I can't expect anyone else to do my work for me because it doesn't benefit them and would take away time that they could invest to benefit them.

>>212408964
yeah thats the point of a 4 day work week, to change society and their relationship with work. so those clients should get fucked and wait till monday. no job is that important, no client that important unless you work in healthcare.

>>212409330
I mean, if your job is to work specifically with certain clients and build relationships with them then yeah, you can't just have a random other person fill in for you. That's a pretty specific kind of job though, and it doesn't really seem like one that fits Monday through Friday hours either.

>>212407607 (OP)
Jesus Christ shut up
Mods, ban this idiot already

>>212407607 (OP)
I just hate the ending where he acts happy to be working in construction. I want an epilogue where they flash forward 6 months and they show him being miserable in that too.

>>212409335
I wish it was that easy, but there are situations that can crop up regardless or how society views the work week. For instance, I had an order we were originally going to ship stocked inventory through FedEx by standard freight out of Memphis, but a last minute change to the end user's bill of materials meant we had to partially drop ship the order straight from the manufacturer in China to meet the deadline set for the bid. Had I been out of the office that day, I would have missed out on a nearly $200k order that would have been fulfilled by another entity.

>>212409460
While the busiest of people would happily have me working 12 hours a day 7 days a week, the 8-5 work schedule acts as a benchmark for expected activity, so the entire industry has adapted to the expectation that if somebody reaches out to me on any given day, I will see it and respond that day or sometime in that week. If we all had 4 days, how could I possibly know who is available from another company on any given day?

>>212408463
>you deserve to be poor when you get old.
We'll all be poor by the time we get old. Our generation will never be able to retire anyway

>>212409801
Im sure they were saying the same thing when people wanted a 5 day work week
>but our competiton!! and loss of money!!
yes which is why when its set into law, everyone has to play by the same rules. and i promise if america or europe implements such a work week, the world will follow suit and adapt to the new reality.

>>212409947
We would have to standardize on it for it to succeed for sure