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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:23:48 AM No.212428269
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Name one thing he did wrong without appealing to his post-transformation self
Pro tip: you can't
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:25:03 AM No.212428299
Betrayed his friends and brothers in arms. He did that as a man before he was Femto. He was offered godhood and sold the souls of his comrades for it.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:25:19 AM No.212428302
donovan
donovan
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>>212428269 (OP)
>Name one thing he did wrong without appealing to his post-transformation self
>Pro tip: you can't
he didnt rape guts directly
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:25:41 AM No.212428306
>>212428299
They agreed to die for him long before the eclipse. You know you would have done the same.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:27:47 AM No.212428350
>>212428306
Agreeing to die for him is not the same as being sent to what is essentially hell for all eternity so he can live out his dream of being a king. And it's hard to say what I'd do. Sure he was broken and a shell of himself by then. But being broken because he personally fucked up and fucked the guy's daughter does not mean everyone else should suffer for it.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:33:37 AM No.212428487
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>>212428306
My younger self would've suffered in silence like a cuck. But my current self? I'd do the same as Griffith did in a heartbeat, raping Casca included. I'm so fucking disappointed with my life right now despite all my efforts that I can't imagine myself in Griffith situation back then and not agreeing to selling other miserable motherfuckers souls for absolute power of this trash world and its laws.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:34:01 AM No.212428499
>>212428350
The godhand never mentioned anything about the Hawks suffering for eternity so we can rule that out as a factor in Griffith sacrificing them, but I'd argue the eclipse is framed as a direct parallel to the battlefield where the results are more or less the same, the lives of one man's willing soldiers to pave the way for the kingdom he sought to establish. He even spells out his goals in plain english earlier on when he says he hopes to establish a kingdom not based in class, as far as I'm concerned an aristocracy is as noble a goal as any
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:34:33 AM No.212428514
>>212428306
>You know you would have done the same.
People without any self control always wanna cope that everyone is the same as them to not feel even worse about them than they already are, kinda like when pedos say "everyone likes children anyway; they are just cowards, I am the one that is real enough to do what everyone else is afraid of!". Complete and utter cope.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:36:18 AM No.212428558
>>212428514
>crippled for life
>dick chopped off
>tongue cut out
>in a delirious disassociative suicidal state
>all of a sudden eldritch gods offer you the opportunity to not only regain your body but give it wings too

The only one coping here is you.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:37:17 AM No.212428582
>>212428269 (OP)
So, did 90s anime really never have plans for season 2?
They covered fist chapter in of Black Swordsman and replaced Pluck with a random woman, which suggests they had no plans.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:37:19 AM No.212428584
Isn't he lying to people about afterlife and hiding that everyone goes to hell?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:37:28 AM No.212428590
>>212428499
You see the swirling mass of suffering souls every time they appear. That's part of the bargain. Their souls basically go to their universe's version of hell.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:38:12 AM No.212428605
>>212428558
The "opportunity" to become a slave with no feelings or enjoyment of life for the rest of eternity... Griffisubros, we can't stop winning! But anyway, continuing with my point, his whole ordeal was caused to him not having any self control. No one forced him to fuck that bitch, neither to go batshit insane over Gatsu. Fuck Griffisu (even though he's kino).
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:38:19 AM No.212428615
>>212428269 (OP)
He was too obsessed with getting fucked by Guts.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:38:34 AM No.212428622
>>212428269 (OP)
I agree, I don't think he understood the implications of transforming at all, and also what else was he really supposed to do, not be able to move or speak ever again?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:39:59 AM No.212428662
>>212428582
I guess you don't watch a lot of anime or you would know its very common to animate just one season only to promote the manga. Worked with berserk, I doubt a lot of people in the west would give a shit about that manga today if not for the VHS tapes of 90s berserk anime nerds watched back then.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:40:17 AM No.212428674
>>212428605
So what? because he messed up, because he made a mistake he should accept his fate?

Slut mentality
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:41:27 AM No.212428710
>>212428674
I'm not saying that, but I'm just explaining that it was his bad. Then again, raping Casuca for the lulz just shows that he was a piece of trash from day 1, so he did deserve his punishment in the end.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:41:39 AM No.212428714
>>212428590
We know this from the black swordsman arc but this never happens in the eclipse, go back and re-read/rewatch it
>>212428605
Yes his actions led to his downfall, that's the butterfly effect in action, but getting tortured for a year over a moment of weakness is just disproportionate and excessive. The punishment far outweighs the crime, we'd never say someone like Guts deserves that for the numerous moments of weakness and even outright sadism he displays.
>>212428582
It was conceptualized as a single season but there's an interview from the producer around the time where he off-handedly mentioned wanting to do season 2, iirc the manga was still in its very early stages at that point though
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:45:37 AM No.212428824
>>212428710
>I'm not saying that, but I'm just explaining that it was his bad
ok but it adds nothing to the conversation
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:47:03 AM No.212428871
>>212428714
>We know this from the black swordsman arc but this never happens in the eclipse, go back and re-read/rewatch it
Dude, a portal from hell opens up, several weird fucking people show up. One of which has a skull face. A huge crowd of apostles shows up looking like demons. And they ask for a sacrifice to give him his dream. What part of that doesn't come off as suspicious? Griffith was just a scumbag. He gave into temptation. Remember the only rule the godhand has is "do what thou wilt". His will was to fuck his friends, sacrifice them, and then immediately afterward rape Casca. He's not a good guy. When we look at what he "willed" it was all fucking over everybody else. The one apostle was more human than him when he refused to sacrifice his daughter. So we know they can do good deeds if they want to. Or sacrifice themselves for a greater good. If an apostle can surely Griffith/Femto could too. But he doesn't. He shows his true colors. He's selfish, vindictive, and willing to throw away anyone and everyone to achieve his dream.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:47:08 AM No.212428872
>>212428269 (OP)
He had no integrity. Went so far as getting GAHAHA'd by ugly bastards for money to fund his war
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:49:20 AM No.212428947
>>212428824
I don't care desu
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:49:30 AM No.212428957
griffith
griffith
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>>212428306
>They agreed to die for him long before the eclipse. You know you would have done the same.

obviously they didnt mean letting themselves be sacrificed to demons as proven by the fact that the single living member, ricket or whatever, hates grif and wants to kill him

they also all fought against the demons killing them.

what do you think would the band would have said if he had just asked them to go sacrifice themselves to demons for him? they would have said no. everyone knows this
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:50:21 AM No.212428984
>>212428872
Yeah... he pretty much failed every integrity, morality and self control test that was presented to him. In the end, he was just a piece of trash with a nice e-boy face.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:52:30 AM No.212429045
>>212428662
Anime as an advert sis more of a recent trend.
These days, many manga get a 12-episode adaptation with no conclusion.
Back in 90s there were fewer adaptation, they tended to focus on having a complete story of 48 episodes
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:54:16 AM No.212429082
>>212428871
I can get behind the obvious demonic hellscape tipping him off as to these not exactly being "good guys", but when looking at the alternative, him "giving in" is the most understandable thing ever, especially when as I've already established they could easily be used as a means for noble goals. The "do as thou wilt" line is cope, Griffith was unbounded by human empathy at that point (which he even says himself he's surprised by as it's removed) and so you can't even view Femto as the same being as Griffith, the loss of humanity was exactly how he was duped. As far as the count goes, a low-level apostle's transformation vs a literal godhand likely aren't on the same level, but regardless Griffith's dream was more admirable than any other apostle's we know of
>>212428957
They would have obviously said no, but they would have been hypocritical. The eclipse/battlefield parallels are pretty baked into the text.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:00:10 AM No.212429250
>>212429082
its not hypocritical. youre just an 60iq nigger retard who thinks your autism is a super power
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:00:26 AM No.212429262
>>212429250
Nice concession.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:01:03 AM No.212429282
>>212429082
But he doesn't use his transformation for noble goals. The count was noble. He refused to sacrifice his daughter. What did Femto do when he was told to do what he willed? Throw his friends under the bus, rape Casca, and generally fuck over everybody else. You're telling me a low level apostle can go "nah i dont wanna sacrifice my daughter because i love her" but Griffith couldn't have refused doing what he did? His whole character was a douche. It's what led him to being as broken as he was. His inability to control himself led to him fucking that one king's daughter and ending up in a torture chamber. From his human form to Femto he was never some noble hero who just wanted to do good. Maybe it had started out that way originally, but it was clear that he was losing that even when he was human and was letting his dream overcome any sense of morality or decency. To him the ends justified the means. And when we see how he acted, what he willed, was nothing good. He threw his friends into hell and then plunged the world into darkness just so he could run around and play hero.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:01:56 AM No.212429311
>>212429250
Dumbass reply, future Griffith cannon fodder.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:05:19 AM No.212429422
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>>212429282
>he doesn't use his transformation for noble goals
This is why I appeal to human Griffith only, he can't be held accountable for what Femto does following the transformation. As I've already said there's no way that there isn't a difference between apostlehood and godhood in terms of loss of humanity, and as I've also said Griffith's one moment of weakness (out of like a total of two that we saw from him during that entire arc, one being only through Casca's eyes) brought a punishment on him that far exceeded whatever crime you consider fucking the princess to be. When all was said and done and that behelit opened up he made the only reasonable decision
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:10:06 AM No.212429541
>>212428269 (OP)
goddamn this looks good, why does modern anime have to look so gay
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:13:35 AM No.212429637
>>212429422
The point is they can do what they want. That's their one rule. It's why the apostle could refuse to sacrifice his daughter. It doesn't take away your humanity to ascend. It just gives you the power to do what you want. Femto doesn't do anything Griffith wouldn't do if he wasn't a mere man and could have the power to get it done. We can see Griffith's actions as a human. He was always that way. He was always like Femto. He just didn't have godly level powers as Griffith. He didn't change who he was as a person just because he got scaled up in power level.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:20:08 AM No.212429788
>>212428269 (OP)
he lusted after a man
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:20:16 AM No.212429791
>>212429637
>Femto doesn't do anything Griffith wouldn't do if he wasn't a mere man
Did you miss the flashback where he sells his body to an old pedo to avoid losing unnecessary lives on the battlefield? He literally scratched his arms done to the bone over children that died in the name of his dream, human Griffith had immense moral quandries that Femto never had to struggle with, it's the whole idea of Guts "obscuring" his dream to begin with. The transformation absolutely changed him as a person and it's sheer cope to think otherwise, inb4 "but le wagon scene"
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:21:04 AM No.212429812
>>212428269 (OP)
>animeslop
grow up
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:22:57 AM No.212429867
>>212429637
The godhand are manipulative by nature, their whole thing is casualty so "do as thou wilt" isn't a genuine encouragement to exercise one's free will. It's do as thou wilt with the caveat that you're now unrestrained by empathy or any emotional ties that made you human.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:24:06 AM No.212429898
>>212429791
I do remember that. I also remember when in a rage of lust and ambition he borderline raped the princess and ended up getting himself sent to a dungeon of torture. I also remember when he tried to keep Guts and threatened him with a duel just to let Guts leave the band so he could pursue his own dreams. I also remember him being willing to look around him at an obvious deal with hell and throwing his friends under the bus. I also remember every other fucked up thing he did as Griffith. It's cope to pretend that Femto is some alter ego or different. It's Griffith. Just Griffith given god level powers to do as he wills to do without any restraint. His actions routinely show the kind of person he is.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:27:03 AM No.212429980
>>212429867
Explain the count then. If he had no empathy he could have sacrificed his daughter to save himself. He refused. You don't lose empathy. You likely never had a strong sense of it to begin with. The entire point of the sacrifice is that you need to actually care about who is being sacrificed. So you need a sense of empathy still. If you didn't give a shit about anything your sacrifices would be worthless. The count couldn't just say "i sacrifice some random hobo down the road".
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:30:42 AM No.212430102
>>212429898
>implying the dungeon of torture was a fitting crime for one moment of weakness
>implying his possessiveness over Guts isn't clearly just poorly channelled emotional repression, something that Gutsfags give him a pass over along with much worse
>implying said "other fucked up things" weren't basically all acting in self-defense

Keep trying, you'll get there someday.

>>212429980
There's no evidence to suggest regular apostles experience the same loss of humanity a godhand does, and the rest of your point just helps further my case if anything. Not sure why you seemed to be arguing that Griffith always saw the Hawks as cannon fodder when this and instances like the flashbacks go to show the total opposite if anything. Perhaps worth noting that the count is the exception to the rule and was written before the lore was fully fleshed out but my other arguments stand pretty strongly on their own
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:35:43 AM No.212430268
>>212428269 (OP)
He raped the princess.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:38:59 AM No.212430353
>>212428269 (OP)
Straight white male
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:39:01 AM No.212430355
>>212430102
Such hardcore cope. How can you not understand that what anons are saying about Griffith is that his "moment of weakness" was something completely entrenched in his personality, a deep character flaw. It wasn't the first time that he was unethical, and he had to know the punishment for fucking that yung pussay, yet he did it all the same, because his weakness was having no control over himself. He also obviously didn't give a fuck about anyone other than himself, and even his obsession for Guts was completely one sided. He was just another egotistical charismatic leader obsessed with his own desires, and nothing more.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:40:16 AM No.212430394
>>212430355
How many times has Guts not only had moments of weakness but displays of borderline sadism and been forgiven by Griffith haters for it? The double standard is insane.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:42:02 AM No.212430439
>>212430394
He dindu before the Eclipse, and after that wasn't even a normal human anymore. His life was also miles more traumatic than Griffith's, so it's understandable that he'd lash out sometimes. But as I said, pre-Eclipse Guts dindu.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:43:02 AM No.212430473
>>212430102
There's no evidence they lose their humanity at all. Only that they deem the reward (doing whatever they want) is worth the cost of whatever is dear to them. Griffith always had Femto in him which is part of the point. All his actions as Griffith reveal that. And as Femto when he gets that power is more than willing to toss everyone aside. The process of being an apostle does not mean you lose your humanity. You basically make the choice to refuse it and sacrifice something dear to you for nearly unlimited power. It's part of the bargain and it's why the count exists and refused. He was willing to sacrifice his wife for example. He was unwilling to do so for his daughter. He didn't lose his humanity. He just got a deal and he took it. He, as a human, made the choice to sacrifice his wife. It being a wilful act is part of the entire point. Otherwise the godhand could have just ascended Griffith without his consent and then had a Femto. What the fuck was he gonna do to stop them? He, as a man, had to be shown his dream and by his own will throw his friends under the bus for it. He chose to do so.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:46:07 AM No.212430557
They would get send to Hell even without Griffith. See: Vargas.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:47:24 AM No.212430593
>>212430439
I'd be careful about having trauma-contests, it may be hard to beat being raped as a kid but the burden of knowing literal children died under your banner is a heavy one that was strong enough to dupe Griffith into sacrificing his humanity completely. Both had their struggles (and from what we know about Griffith's past he was materially necessitated to rise beyond "peasant that can't even afford a slice of bread to eat" status). Also Guts had plenty of rash moments where he disregarded battle plans entirely, his hot-headedness is arguably as big a part of his character as you argue Griffith's lack of self-control is for him. Just because it worked out for Guts doesn't give him the moral upper hand.
>>212430473
Griffith literally makes the observation that it feels "strange" when he "doesn't feel anything" as he sinks deeper into the abyss, this along with the obvious contrast between him and Femto makes it clear a major supernatural transformation beyond just the physical was involved.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:50:47 AM No.212430668
>>212430593
Then why did the godhand bother giving him a choice at all? If he couldn't have refused why go through the lengths to convince him and make him say "I sacrifice."? What was a crippled Griffith gonna do to stop them? Nothing. He had to make the wilful act and choice. Which he did as Griffith. Griffith the man was willing to do fucked up shit the entire series all the way up to the eclipse where he finally betrayed everybody for the sake of his own ambition.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:51:50 AM No.212430700
>>212428269 (OP)
hunter schafer
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:52:44 AM No.212430728
>>212430668
It's pretty simple, they manipulated him into making the decision. There's even a moment where Ubik (or is it Conrad, I always forget) shows him an out of context moments of Guts saying something like "this is what you wanted, right" when it has nothing to do with the other flashbacks being presented, it's all to mess with Griffith's head and make him think he was in the right for making the sacrifice.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:54:09 AM No.212430760
>>212428306
>>They agreed to die for him
No, they didn't. They agreed to fight as mercenaries in a war where death was a possibility, not to be ritually sacrificed where death was certain.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:54:44 AM No.212430779
>>212428269 (OP)
being a arrogant faggot thinking he is all that
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:56:03 AM No.212430819
people who pretend lo like griffith "hurr he did nothing wrong" are just edgy faggots for the sake of attention, literally just 14 year old boys listening to linking park, thats the mental level you have to be.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:57:14 AM No.212430856
>>212430819
If a so-called mental 14 year old still has better arguments than you then what does that make you
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:58:04 AM No.212430882
>>212428269 (OP)
He did 3 things wrong, he forsook all his "friends" from the very beginning, telling them so. Then he freaked out over his gay obsession with Guts and fucked the princess out of stress when he absolutely didn't need to. Then he forsook all his friends for real. He did everything wrong.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:58:50 AM No.212430907
>>212430700
She - Griffisu
Zendaya - Casca
Corenswet - Guts
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:58:58 AM No.212430912
>>212430819
They're just fujos.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:59:16 AM No.212430922
>>212430728
But why? If wilful choice isn't needed why go through that song and dance trying to convince him? They could have just ascended him against his will. Not like a crippled Griffith was gonna put up much fight there. Same for the count. They needed him to make the choice. And when he refused to sacrifice his daughter he was taken in her place. It's pretty obvious that you keep some semblance of your humanity in you because any time the godhand shows up they're bothering to give people choices instead of just "yeah fuck you were taking you anyway lol".
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:01:13 AM No.212430982
>>212430856
It's all cope, but y'all Griffith fans would unironically sell your loved ones for 100 bucks, probably, so to you it makes perfect sense, what he did.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:02:49 AM No.212431036
>>212430922
You can still be manipulated into making a choice, as is evidenced here. As for why Miura made the lore so that the words "I sacrifice" need to be said within your heart, I can't say with certainty, though I can make thematic guesses, but it's sort of besides the point
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:03:25 AM No.212431051
>>212430856
you had no arguments from the very start

>look at me i am a edgy! hurr griffith didnt do anything wrong durrr

isnt a argument and never was
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:03:37 AM No.212431056
>>212430907
this, so much this!
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:05:41 AM No.212431127
>>212431051
I've made my arguments pretty clear from the beginning, and am engaging with an anon who's willing to be a better person than you by making genuine rebuttals, not my problem that you missed this and went straight to the "le edgy teenager" insults.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:10:30 AM No.212431273
>>212431036
It isn't besides the point. It is the central point. He has to make the human choice to betray them. As does every deal with the godhand. That's why they bother to manipulate and offer the choice at all.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:13:05 AM No.212431358
>>212431273
So you concede he was manipulated? This sort of thing happens IRL all the time, it's arguable how much free will we even have given all the influences and factors that inform our mindset. The godhand in Griffith's case are just as extension of that, it's literally their whole deal
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:20:56 AM No.212431605
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>>212430353
>straight
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:36:34 AM No.212432059
>>212428269 (OP)
Pimped out his bussy to fat, ugly pedophiles.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:57:08 AM No.212432686
>>212431358
Guts stans on suicide watch
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:59:56 AM No.212432772
>>212428269 (OP)
Go back to /a/
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:10:30 AM No.212433085
>>212428269 (OP)
He let Guts and Casca go during the Eclipse, creating a great liability for himself.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:10:38 AM No.212433091
>>212428487
You couldn't if you actually wanted to lol. The eclipse altar demands an immeasurable part of your being, so that tearing it away is like losing a part of your soul.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:08:08 AM No.212434777
hunter_schafer
hunter_schafer
md5: 60e861b2905479ef86d0e3a0851b5c48๐Ÿ”
>>212430700
Unironically why wouldn't this work?
Replies: >>212435421
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:15:10 AM No.212434961
>>212428499
The people sacrificed become red faces on the land of the demon world Iโ€™m sure. What else could they be?
Replies: >>212434995
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:16:31 AM No.212434995
>>212434961
Griffith was in a dissociative suicidal state when he got dragged into this hellscape lol what is this YMS "I would've been smarter" logic, I don't even think those faces are confirmed to be that in the manga itself
Replies: >>212435679
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:17:26 AM No.212435020
>>212429422

>And we all disappear in the end...
>Our lives spent...
>Never even knowing who we were.

Poor MIura began to regret spending so much of his life and time on manga and never got a GF, or even got to go outside his own house much. When he did, he'd get heatstroke. Eventually the shitty lifestyle did him in
Replies: >>212435252 >>212438342 >>212438711
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:22:50 AM No.212435139
>>212429282
Well the world wasnโ€™t plunged into darkness as we see in the new season, magic returns to the world. Still he is a bad guy, controlling and manipulative. He made Guts become an assassin.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:27:43 AM No.212435252
>>212435020
Didn't Miura get married to a popstar? I remember reading about it on /a/.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:33:21 AM No.212435421
>>212434777
It would be transphobic to cast xer as a cis man
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:34:46 AM No.212435468
>>212428299
This, he was shittershattered that Guts dared to try to leave and doubly so when he beat him
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:39:23 AM No.212435600
>>212431036
There you have it, you just typed it out. He was manipulated into choosing. He was too pathetic and lowly. He made his bed, the gods only tempted him. It was his choice all along, he was just too weak willed to choose not to sacrifice. Iโ€™m not going to say what he did was wrong, because itโ€™s his choice and if I had the option I would do it too.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:41:06 AM No.212435639
>>212433085
He knows they will eventually die because they are marked. So their souls will go to him eventually. Let them suffer some more.
Replies: >>212435684
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:42:31 AM No.212435679
>>212434995
Whatever the director died so Iโ€™m going to say they are.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:42:40 AM No.212435684
>>212435639
Isn't this kind of deterministic logic a meme in light of the fact that The God Hand live in an acausal realm? Meaning, no logic, rationality or determination, just pure chaos.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:44:21 AM No.212435723
didn't he sell his bussy?
Replies: >>212439850
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:45:33 AM No.212435757
68685
68685
md5: 9f45212eeee3d67d715d464fb17016ee๐Ÿ”
>>212428299
>Betrayed his friends and brothers in arms
If he didn't say yes, all of the people that died would have died for nothing.
Replies: >>212436749
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:56:55 AM No.212436027
>>212428269 (OP)
>I want power...because I want ok?!
>literally given the devil egg for free to become a god out of fucking nowhere
>"because...its le destiny ok?!"
srsly this manga is complete shit plotwise
Replies: >>212436080
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:57:06 AM No.212436033
>>212428269 (OP)
one of the greatest lessons in life anon is you can do everything "right" and have the worst possible outcome imaginable
Replies: >>212436211 >>212436232
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:59:03 AM No.212436080
>>212436027
i think he was abused as a child so then tried to get "power" to protect himself and others after a while i forms a merc band to try and protect random strangers

he makes unlimited faustian deals culminateing in this
Replies: >>212436211
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:04:59 AM No.212436211
>>212436033
This is essentially the Jesus narrative, the crux of Christianity as a whole - "struggling on" despite said worst outcomes is the noble thing to do, though, hence why Christ is so inspirational as a symbol and an icon
>>212436080
Nailed it.
Replies: >>212436373
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:05:48 AM No.212436232
>>212436033
>you can do everything "right"
All he had to do was not fuck the princess.
although I think it would have all come crashing down anyway since the King wouldn't allow Griffith to marry her anyway.
Replies: >>212436305
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:08:13 AM No.212436305
1682293434308713
1682293434308713
md5: e6f31e8320a6c15349b1b9ca664bbd6b๐Ÿ”
>>212436232
In this case blame the king and not Griffith lol wtf
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:11:32 AM No.212436373
1751693847097722
1751693847097722
md5: e9e912e4215b5dec38783df96ac6405b๐Ÿ”
>>212436211
>This is essentially the Jesus narrative, the crux of Christianity as a whole - "struggling on" despite said worst outcomes is the noble thing to do, though, hence why Christ is so inspirational as a symbol and an icon

That is not the christian message at all lol. "It's obey me and this rabbi or you deserve to be tortured"
Replies: >>212436402 >>212436463 >>212436607
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:13:00 AM No.212436402
>>212436373
Jesus didn't give a fuck about authority figures other than G-d.
Replies: >>212436710
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:15:57 AM No.212436463
>>212436373
i think an idea would be
if you don't follow this set of rules it will end real bad

like imagine you speak to somebody who is hell bent on eating nails and your like hey dude thats super not cool that will fuck you up

and then they say what if i dont stop eating nails im going to ruin my body thats not every fair

and the guy is like not only do you need to not eat nails you need to manage like a whole heap of shit in order to just survive without horrible shit happening

and then hes like you know what you need to just to exactly this also stop eating nails ...
Replies: >>212436607 >>212436710
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:21:52 AM No.212436607
>>212436373
>>212436463
and then thousands of years later your like
H hah he had magic powers why couldnt he just make everything ok

he had magic powers because he was following the rules we have no idea what the rules are or what game* he was playing but he didnt have magic powers because he was the son of god
he was the son of god and had magic powers.
Replies: >>212436710
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:25:40 AM No.212436710
633ffc9a91770
633ffc9a91770
md5: 65848f3489289cfb2413019d83341c04๐Ÿ”
>>212436402
>>212436463
>>212436607
your god is a schizo who created all the variables but wants you to be responsible for the result
Replies: >>212436853 >>212437058
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:27:02 AM No.212436749
latest[1]
latest[1]
md5: 44707d088b7c32e8355dec039d32a1a3๐Ÿ”
>>212435757
t. literal jew demon
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:30:49 AM No.212436853
>>212436710
lmao anon youve seen fightclub right?


everybody can join nobody can know the rules

its teh same concept but dont worry the guy litterly keeps sending actual flesh and blood humans to help us figure out the rules

theese humans litterly figure it out somehow and then start teaching us

>creates eternal life
>W WHY DO PEOPLE DIE
>y you litterly cant have eternal life or even know what it is unless things die
>BUT YOU CAN JUST MAKE EVER
>But you cant can you... he could just stop time forever your litterly angry that god isnt litterly forcibly imprisining souls for eternity stuck in a single moment.
thats crazy (also counterpoint that is happening kek but you get the idea)
Replies: >>212436930
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:33:45 AM No.212436930
qqaibflj3tv11
qqaibflj3tv11
md5: 5a15cb06f709391b24380d2d5843bf91๐Ÿ”
>>212436853
>creates the problems he claims to be solving

yep you definitely worship a jew
Replies: >>212437035 >>212437383
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:38:35 AM No.212437035
>>212436930
he also creates a solution to the problems and keeps sending people to try and make you follow the solution to the problem

also that is a based business strategy

besides the point
the problem is solved and no problem is required at all you can litterly not have the problem you just have to follow the rules that you cannot know for whatever reason (maybe its to complex maybe if you know the rule the solution does not work due to some cosmic mechanism)

again im not saying all religion or whatever im just saying your argument holds no weight nor water

its like saying i was punched in the face yesterday then the person apologised

and then you say but hey didnt you just kick that guy in the balls and your like YEA SO!!! he could of not punched me in the face!! and then you realise you were looking in a mirror and you just kicked yourself in the balls punched yourself in the face and started blameing yourself
Replies: >>212437208 >>212437383
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:39:52 AM No.212437058
>>212436710
I don't have a G-d, nigga, I don give no fu
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:46:59 AM No.212437208
>>212437035
well i guess in the analogy you started blameing the guy telling you to just stop being a retard
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:54:46 AM No.212437383
>>212436930
kek >>212437035


>Anoon please stop kicking yourself in the balls
>Theese rules are stupid my balls hurt
>Annon anon please just dont kick your self in the balls
>Im going to kick really really hard this time
>Anon your going to have to stop kicking stop fucking kicking
>OWCH THAT REALLY HURT IM GOING TO KICK EVEN HARDER
>"this dense montherfucker brings me great pain and sadness why the fuck wont he just stop kicking himself in the balls"

kek
Replies: >>212437543
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:02:44 AM No.212437543
>>212437383
the rebuttal

>he made me to stupid to know im kicking myself in the balls
>the reality
>you have so much fucking power that you can kick yourself in the balls if for some insane reason you decide to do that you can also kick litterly anything else

grifith is a ball kicker
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:27:31 AM No.212438004
>>212428299
He was mind broken and destroyed as a person, he wasnโ€™t the same after that
Replies: >>212438062 >>212440100
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:30:17 AM No.212438062
>>212438004
Griffith had had a weak mind.
Replies: >>212438412
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:32:17 AM No.212438108
>>212428269 (OP)
He did not wrong. It should be the duty of every single beautiful Aryan twink to rape as much as possible.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:33:50 AM No.212438137
>>212428824
Other anon is right tho, once Griffith got his conscience back and was healed he still rapes Casuca to traumatize Guts too, proving he always was a piece of shit, you could have a point if after he gets his Femto form he tells the members of the Godhand he wants to leave and spare the rest of the crew, but he doesnโ€™t, he goes ahead and rapes Casuca, he was trash bro
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:34:11 AM No.212438140
Griffith literally cleansed himself of the sin of homosexuality through rape and murder. He even got himself an entirely new unraped body. He is the only based fag in all of fiction.
Replies: >>212438997
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:35:47 AM No.212438175
1725744658675
1725744658675
md5: fcab34a8144b8e640936383d727fd41a๐Ÿ”
This is the correct interpretation of Berserk.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:43:53 AM No.212438342
>>212435020
It's insane to me that there "people" like you who believe the shitty excuses mangaka put out to avoid doing work. I bet you think Togashi really has "back issues" when he's drawing.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:44:34 AM No.212438354
>>212430856
Raping your ex best friend girlfriend is not cool lil bro
Replies: >>212438581
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:47:17 AM No.212438412
>>212438062
I don't really agree that someone has a weak mind if the reason they were mind broken was because they were tortured and mutilated over the course of a year to the point they are a complete invalid.
Replies: >>212438704
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:56:55 AM No.212438581
>>212438354
It's funny when a gay guy rapes his crush's girl. That's a good bit.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 9:59:51 AM No.212438634
>>212430355
Griffith's affectation for Guts was sincere. If it wasn't sincere he wouldn't have sabotaged himself when Guts left. He almost got himself killed trying to save Guts in the fight against Zodd.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:03:02 AM No.212438704
>>212438412
He got upset and pissy that Guys left then has sex with the princess which he knew he shouldnโ€™t have done but he was so angry cause of not having control over Guts made him made to take the princess. He needed Guts for his plans since he was the best soldier in his command. Losing him meant his dreams were dead.
Replies: >>212438793
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:03:22 AM No.212438711
>>212435020
Miura took long stretches of time off in the 00s. He spent that time playing idol master.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:07:42 AM No.212438793
>>212438704
He fucked the princess because he had deeply repressed gay feelings for Guts that he was trying to get rid of. If fucking the princess was just about regaining control, he could have just choked out one of his underlings. There are a million other ways he could have let off steam but he went for fucking the primary, most sought after pussy in the kingdom because he wanted to prove to himself that he wasn't gay.
Replies: >>212439021 >>212439450
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:17:29 AM No.212438997
>>212438140
Griffith reminds me of the 1st villain in Busou Renkin. Not only did that villain committed mass murder and cannibalism and got away with them, he also get to keep his full powers while everyone else, including the heroes, lose them in the end.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:18:31 AM No.212439021
>>212438793
No he needed the princess to gain power. His whole dream is about gaining power. He wants his own Kingdom and he will do anything to seize it.
Replies: >>212439450 >>212440916
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:32:21 AM No.212439287
>>212428306
>>212429082
Risking your life due to mutual interests is not the same as being murdered for someone else's dream. You're retarded.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:39:29 AM No.212439394
>>212429422
He tries to force himself on Casca in the wagon when they rescue him, but he's too weak to do anything. Griffu was already extremely possessive but the torture rid him of any remaining humanity.
Replies: >>212439558
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:41:16 AM No.212439427
>>212430102
>>212429980
Griffith saw his friendship with Guts as a weakness. He probably willingly chose to lose his empathy. That also explains why he appears and taunts Guts after the conviction arc, he got his wish and Guts means nothing to him now.
Replies: >>212439480
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:42:56 AM No.212439450
>>212438793
>>212439021
Losing Guts was not only a major loss personally, but also a major loss in power.
Guts has sex with Charlotte to "regain" the power he lost, only for it all to crumble.
If Griffith still had Guts, or if Guts just stayed another month longer, Griffith would realize why the King wasn't allowing him to marry her and he would have Guts kill the king, but he couldn't do that without Guts.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:45:32 AM No.212439480
1736638578129964
1736638578129964
md5: 9bba30fe6c34db0fd47ff5d75ab1592d๐Ÿ”
>>212439427
>Griffith saw his friendship with Guts as a weakness.
You are blatantly wrong.
Their friendship is the only reason Griffith wasn't completely insane when he is rescued.
Replies: >>212439612
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:51:06 AM No.212439558
1736732425092575
1736732425092575
md5: eb256a0726d51a02cf39da0642fa0e6e๐Ÿ”
>>212439394
>He tries to force himself on Casca in the wagon when they rescue him, but he's too weak to do anything.
Griffith saw how Casca couldn't even look in his eyes when previously she had always stared at him in admiration and it broke him. That's why he tries to "force" himself on her, because any other time she would have loved if he did that, but also to get her to look at his eyes, to be acknowledged once again.
Replies: >>212440943
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:54:42 AM No.212439612
youre-the-only-one-v0-uua6adurp60c1
youre-the-only-one-v0-uua6adurp60c1
md5: 0ce5628dee1265283915dc8fb28caa23๐Ÿ”
>>212439480
He literally blames Guys for making him forget his dream the exact moment he says "sacrifice"
Replies: >>212439676
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:58:53 AM No.212439676
856482542
856482542
md5: f58a8ed742499ea33ea1333757959509๐Ÿ”
>>212439612
>blames
Nope.
He's just acknowledging to himself that Guts was the only true friend he had, even after the bullshit he spewed about not having friends to Charlotte.
>Which is why Guts left in the first place
Replies: >>212439747
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:03:12 AM No.212439747
>>212439676
He says this as he's sacrificing Guts to a horde of demons. Clearly Griffith wants to get rid of him so he can pursue his dream.
Replies: >>212439847
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:07:38 AM No.212439813
>>212428269 (OP)
Appealing to his post transformation self? What exactly do you think those words mean?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:09:15 AM No.212439847
47552354
47552354
md5: 5932c176a8e3b0b9de4e102a888b8461๐Ÿ”
>>212439747
>Clearly Griffith wants to get rid of him so he can pursue his dream.
The entire point of the sacrifice is that you have to love the person you're sacrificing, otherwise you can't sacrifice them.
Once Griffith becomes Femto he even tries to kill Guts and Casca when they are getting away and he is a inch away from doing it, but he can't bring himself to do it.
Replies: >>212441748
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:09:19 AM No.212439850
>>212435723
This. Can't respect a faggot who got himself sodomised.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:09:35 AM No.212439856
>>212428558
I mean first, I wouldn't be in that situation because I'm not an impulsive psychopath. Everything bad that happened to Griffith was literally a 1:1 result of his own stupidity and cruelty.

And this is really the most important part, the point that underpins his character: Griffith fucking deserved what he got. Think about how many innocent people this guy killed, not random soldiers but random children, like Adonis, who was by all accounts including Guts' a totally innocent boy.

There is nothing redeeming about Griffith, there's no argument that you could possibly make to justify his behavior, even the problems he resolved with his newfound power were all problems that existed only because of him, his ascension as Femto fucked the entire world up.

Fuck Griffith, I'm glad that hunchback had so long to torture his ass.
Replies: >>212439966
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:16:40 AM No.212439966
85655
85655
md5: 17cf2c027f7c5e2653d77dbf0eb69424๐Ÿ”
>>212439856
>There is nothing redeeming about Griffith,
His speeches are kino.
He saved Casca from the nobleman.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:18:26 AM No.212439996
>>212428269 (OP)
It's all irrelevant, because even if by some quirk of fate Griffith refused the offer, the Hawks would've still been left surrounded by a bunch of flesh-hungry apostles. I guess it might have been easier for some of them to escape but there'd still be a bloodbath.
Replies: >>212440055 >>212440344
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:21:19 AM No.212440055
>>212439996
You're forgetting Skull Knight is there and none of them want to fuck with him.
Replies: >>212440179
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:23:43 AM No.212440100
>>212438004
ok then before that he threw away everything by fucking the princess, which directly lead to his inprisonment and torture and to his entire army becoming illegitimate, basically condemning all his followers and friends to a life of banditry after they had fought in gruesome wars just to earn a chance at a normal life
Replies: >>212440413
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:27:21 AM No.212440179
>>212440055
Skull Knight didn't turn up right away, and he would be distracted by Zodd. Again, the Hawks would stand a better chance of survival but not by much.
Replies: >>212440231
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:31:33 AM No.212440231
>>212440179
Zodd would be fine stopping the fight since he would be astounded that Griffith rejected The God Hand since it would completely shatter his belief in "causality".
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:38:33 AM No.212440344
>>212439996
I doubt that the demons were allowed to eat the people without a mark, the god hand could have easily prevented that to honor a honest refusal. The thing is that they knew for sure that Griffith would have said yes, it was his predetermined destiny. Now that I think about it I don't think that anybody has ever activated a behelit and then refused the offer, it seems like them giving you a choice is a farce
Replies: >>212440436 >>212440508
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:42:25 AM No.212440413
>>212440100
Griffith & Guts are both to blame.
Guts eavesdropped on Griffith's conversation and was too autistic to confront him about it directly. From Griffith's perspective, Guts just drops the Hawks and leaves on a whim.
But Griffith also too controlling and obsessive. He couldn't handle Guts wresting from his grasp and completely imploded.
Replies: >>212440511 >>212440538
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:44:03 AM No.212440436
>>212440344
>I doubt that the demons were allowed to eat the people without a mark, the god hand could have easily prevented that to honor a honest refusal.
lol dude the God Hand aren't honorable. They are literally evil.
The God Hand would fuck off, and you'd be left with a horde of demons who were all ready for a meat orgy. This ain't ending well for the Hawks either way.
Replies: >>212440511
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:48:36 AM No.212440508
>>212440344
>I don't think that anybody has ever activated a behelit and then refused the offer, it seems like them giving you a choice is a farce
The entire point of the first arc is that you can reject the God Hand and that "causality" is bullshit.
Replies: >>212440578 >>212440727
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:48:40 AM No.212440511
>>212440413
yeah Guts was an asshole since he left suddenly despite having hundreds of men under his command, but war time was over so the hawks could easily have survived without him. Griffith on the other hand just went full retard
>>212440436
they are evil but they also surprisingly passive at times for mysterious reasons. They could have killed Guts & friends many times and yet they didn't. But there was no reality in which Griffith refused so that scenario is not a concern
Replies: >>212440619
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:50:18 AM No.212440538
>>212440413
>eavesdropped
Guts could literally hear him from downstairs in a public space, it's not eavesdropping if someone is projecting their voice in a grand speech.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:52:54 AM No.212440578
>>212440508
>and that "causality" is bullshit.
Not necessarily. Doesn't Guts' gang currently have the Count's beherit in their possession? It could be argued that it was planned this way, especially since Guts' surviving that encounter has helped further Griffith's plans at times.
Replies: >>212440788
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:55:02 AM No.212440619
>>212440511
True, but imagine you're close to achieving your goal, and your homie decides he wants out for no reason. To Griffith, Guts was turning his back on everything.
Guts was so autistic that even after everything that followed, he still couldn't figure out how significant he was to Griffith.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:02:18 PM No.212440727
latest[1]
latest[1]
md5: 3a79f7e53a8fb680671f7437a5f98443๐Ÿ”
>>212440508
you "could" but you won't, those niggers know everything about your life and they even show you visions to make you cave in to your deepest desires. Ubik especially is an expert manipulator (ironic name, btw)
Replies: >>212440788
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:08:02 PM No.212440788
258689
258689
md5: ec714e226bf2dbd159376274a0906673๐Ÿ”
>>212440727
>you "could" but you won't
The Count refuses, what do you mean?
>>212440578
It's been chekhov's gun for over 30 years, we'll see what happens.
Replies: >>212441696 >>212441789
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:16:43 PM No.212440916
>>212439021
All he had to do was continue to court the princess and suck off the king. He did not 'need' to fuck her. He did that in a moment of emotional distress.
Replies: >>212441149
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:18:21 PM No.212440943
>>212439558
He got rapey with Casca when he realized she and Guts were fucking.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:23:38 PM No.212441007
>>212428350
>Agreeing to die for him is not the same as being sent to what is essentially hell for all eternity
Its not? You think any one of the soldiers who died for him repented and went to heaven or something? They're all damned.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:33:35 PM No.212441149
>>212440916
>All he had to do was continue to court the princess and suck off the king. He did not 'need' to fuck her.
Eventually the King would have to die for Griffith to be King and he would need to fuck her to sire children and be a legitimate ruler.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:35:52 PM No.212441187
>>212441149
Fucking her in that moment was not a good plan, it was a monkey brained impulse. There was no strategy.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:37:24 PM No.212441209
>>212441187
He was following the golden rule of
>the best way to get over someone is to get on/under someone.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:10:28 PM No.212441696
>>212440788
Guts activates the behelit and sacrifices his willing friends to become an apostle.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:15:19 PM No.212441748
>>212439847
This scene is ambiguous. There are several ways to interpret it:

1) Griffith was still new to his superpowers and might not have been able use them consistently
2) Skull Knight had powers that countered Griffith's attack.
3) They went out of range.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:20:15 PM No.212441789
>>212440788
>The Count refuses
oh shit you are right, I misremembered that
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:25:59 PM No.212441877
>>212428306
Yes, in battle against his foes because he was their commander. Not to be stabbed in the back and sacrificed for demons for his own gain. What Griffith did was opportunistic and downright psychopathic and it's exactly the reason why Guts doesn't forgive him and wants to chop Griffith into pieces.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:33:44 PM No.212441993
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>>212441748
It's a story, "game mechanics" like out of range aren't part of Miura's thought process.
>I feel nothing for you
>proceeds to stare at you while you leave him again
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:34:39 PM No.212442006
>>212441748
4) Even after Griffith gave up his humanity he's still so fixated with Guts that he doesn't want him dead
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:52:38 PM No.212442279
>>212441877
also remember that they expected to be able to survive and go on to do other things with their lives, being ready to risk your life and completely forfeiting it are two very different things
>>212442006
later on in the story he attributes this entirely to his vessel for reincarnation, but it's clear that even as Phemto part of him cared
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:12:52 PM No.212442647
>>212428269 (OP)
>>>/a/
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:15:18 PM No.212442691
>>212428269 (OP)
He got FUCKED IN THE ASS
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:19:22 PM No.212442767
>>212428269 (OP)
Sex with a man.
Sex outside of marriage.
Being a little bitch boy butthurt about getting his ass beat instead of taking it like a man.
Agreeing to become some faggot ass demon lord.