heard mixed things about it, kino or weebslop?

>>212429781 (OP)
Its kino. If you are a weeb its kinoer.

>>212429781 (OP)
It has 2 good episodes then gets worse all the way to the end. Pass for me unless you like watching nothing happen

cucktaro

>calls himself a shogun
>doesn't wield a shotgun

>>212429781 (OP)
It's kino. The criticism is because there weren't enough big scale battle scenes for midwits.

The Japanese are a "higher quality of human", so it's probably pretty good.

the parts with all japanese people are good

but the MC ruins it. it's like an isekai where the MC hates being there and complains it's not like engerland and also tries to act macho and cuck other people and be rude

>>212429781 (OP)
why tell a faggot op the future?

>>212429781 (OP)
>lil Timmy fantasy: the show
What do you think?

>>212430380
sounds like kino

>>212430380
they cut out the actual fantasy elements from the book like the women pogging at his huge penis

it's targeted at normalfags who think japanese stuff is gay but still want some samurai violence

>>212430167
He is literally me.

>>212429781 (OP)
I watched this a few weeks ago and didn't get the hype. Just an ok show.

>>212430176
>there weren't enough big scale battle scenes
There wasn't even one.

Original series was better.

i am extremely anti-weebshit and i liked it a lot.

>>212433052
john rhys davies has that perfect physiognomy where he can play basically any ethnicity from europe

>>212429781 (OP)
Something in between. It’s worth watching

>>212429781 (OP)
starts very promising, becomes shit around episode 4 or 5

>>212433052
This, watch the original.
>No blue filter
>Toshiro Mifune

>>212429781 (OP)
The 1980 Shogun miniseries is way better in its totality, but the recent reboot has a few decent things in it that are better than the miniseries.

>>212433052
>>212433679
Also consider reading the novel, its fantastic.

>>212430380
Imagine it you were a good looking white guy and had blue eyes and traveled to Japan. Now imagine how women there would treat you. I dont have to imagine. I am the Lil timmy of you fear.

>>212430176
It's literally the biggest medieval battle in history and instead of being shown was just a voiceover with some dream like scenes showing it ending without a fight.
I'm reality tens of thousands died

>>212429781 (OP)
Absolute kino

>>212434107
I hope they could get some Japs actor who could match his aura for season 2.

>>212429781 (OP)
>Look at those paper wood housing with basic geometry architecture and tell me that city is not more impressive than London, Lisbon, Seville, Florence or Venice
-Spanish guy to an English man circa 1600 AD

>>212433052
okay boomer

>>212429781 (OP)
Boring, woke trash and everyone here is well aware of that already boomer.

mariko was super hot tho

good show, looking forward to season 2

i was really invested in the first 4 or 5 episodes, then just kind of drags
I prefer Silence

>Mariko-sama, I am coming!

>>212429781 (OP)

It was okay. I was rooting for the Catholics.

I have interest in the sengoku jidai and watch some chanbara now and then
So my parents asked me to watch it with them (I dont live with them but I enjoy watching tv with them)
It took every ounce of my being to not constantly tell them autistic historical details, tell them what the real names of all the characters were, hell even tell them stories of real people that aren't even on screen but are referenced/referred to

By the way if you want a decent (with some inaccuracies but it's for the sake of rule-of-cool) depiction of this same era culminating in the battle of Sekigahara, check out Sekigahara (2017). It's told mostly from the perspective of Ishida Mitsunari and so we get to see Tokugawa as a villain and Ishida as the hero who's just trying to hold the country together.

Given that real life warlords are rarely black-and-white, good-and-evil, it's a nice companion to see how either side could be seen as the tyrant.

>>212434584
I did this shit in Japan and other obnoxious things like bow super deep for nonsense just to make japanese people laugh at me like I was an idiot. It was fun.

>>212433052
Yup

>>212429781 (OP)
the pilot episode is OK then it goes to shit
also I have no idea what those people are smoking this has really poor production values

>>212430643
Wasn't there also a scene besides the maids pogging where he does a high class courtesan in the ass and afterwards she's all like "masaka, no client of mine has ever made me cum like you did with your gigantic gaijin dong, anjin-sama".

>>212437032
The original novel is basically porn so yes. A few boomers fans of the original novel posted bits on the threads about the show when it was still running, we all discussed it at length, best time I had on an imageboard in years.

>>212437183
Guess the author couldn't decide whether he wanted it to be "a gaijin fly on the wall looking at this strange and beautiful exotic culture" or basically Sengoku Rance : Boomer edition. So he just chose both.

>>212437183
>>212437254
The novel is quite long, it explores many aspects of the story in depth. For example, Yabu preferring bussy, but not exclusively. Toranaga has a autist obsession with falconing. Japaense have this sophisticated culture and society but are completely bamboozled by simple concepts like sea legs, and swimming.

>>212437460
The novel is also rather famous for being extremely unreliable and sometimes outright lying when it comes to accurate historical and cultural items.

>>212437460
>Yabu preferring bussy, but not exclusively
Why is the obsession with bussy so universal in non-western cultures? Or is it the west that is strange for never developing a taste for bussy after Rome fell?

>>212429781 (OP)
It's slop. The writing is bad, and there is a shitty blur at all times. The lighting and colors are garbage.

In which episode does the white guy fuck the Asian harem?

>>212433878
>It's literally the biggest medieval battle in history and instead of being shown was just a voiceover with some dream like scenes showing it ending without a fight.
>I'm reality tens of thousands died
The battle was won before any soldier took to the field, that's the whole point of the story, that the battle itself wasn't truly fought with swords.

>>212429781 (OP)
its shit

>>212430380
You’re just mad because nips hate nogs and shitskins such as yourself

>>212437830
You could say that about a lot of battles.

>>212437830
seriously what is it with zoomers inability to actually understand and process what they are watching. The entire story of Shogun is a politcal chess match for control of Japan. We see this unfold mostly through the perspective of Blackthorne/Anjin-San but ultimately he is just one of the chess pieces. Though his arrival and involvement does affect the strategies used to attempt to gain control.

>>212437830
>>212437949
Hey midwits, the fucking point is that it would be nice to have some physical action in the form of a huge samurai battle.

>>212429781 (OP)
It’s one of those shows that people praise because the production values are phenomenal but is utterly soulless. I legit could not finish it despite being two episodes away because I was so fucking bored by the characters and plot

>>212430380
Kind of funny how the show cut out most of the fanservice stuff involving Blackthorne's hentai protagonist adventures but asianmasculinity still got incredibly mad about the show succeeding.

>>212438056
That also happened in the novel...

>>212437830
>the battle itself wasn't truly fought with swords.
Except for the part where 200,000 men literally fought with swords.
Some armies defected before and during the battle but it's nothing like presented in the show.
It's the largest battle in Japan, not some cosplay larping in a field.

>>212438099
its an intrinsic problem of the novel. all the exciting stuff where Blackthorn's decisions matter is at the start, then the climactic moment of the story is when side character changes her mind about which asshole she trusts the least. you can make a case for it being a story with no protagonist.

I'm a weeb but I don't want to watch it because it's a western television show based on a western novel
Unlike the Japanese I don't care about how my own culture portrays the Japanese, there's no novelty there
I wish Taiga dramas weren't made for middle aged and elderly Japanese

When did the western industry decide that the middle ages, either western or japanese, are desaturated and blue?

>>212438178
>Except for the part where 200,000 men literally fought with swords.
>Some armies defected before and during the battle but it's nothing like presented in the show.
>It's the largest battle in Japan, not some cosplay larping in a field.
I said the point of the story, the battle isn't important to the story so it's not actually detailed beyond the idea that it occured.
It's not an action series, get over it.

>>212438253
The real protagonist is Toranaga. But his story had already started before we join and participate through Blackthorne's viewpoint.

>>212438099
it literally looks like cheap shit
is not a far cry from spartacus show

>>212438561
Wasn't Spartacus meant to look plastic-y and cheesy on purpose, though?

He should have pillowed Fuji-san and gave her a hapa child

>>212429781 (OP)
kino

>>212434584
Literally me