>scientifically inaccurate
>spends half the run time speculating on a dystopia that wouldn't happen
why does Reddit love this movie so much? why is the modern internet filled with manic depressive fags that deliberately want to feel depressed all the time?

reddit hates humanity and material world in general.

>>212446570 (OP)
>why does reddit
Why are you on reddit newfag?

>>212446570 (OP)
Which part do you think is scientifically inaccurate?
And have you tried doing a hundreds of megatons nuclear exchange, in order to test this?

i like social realism, me. throw in some speculative/science fiction gimmick, it's a bit miserable, i just enjoy it.

Black Mirror nonsense is where it goes too far. "isn't everyone secretly horrible and cynical?!" no?

>>212446955
Some of the better recent Black Mirror episodes have good, well-intentioned main characters and/or hopeful endings.

>>212447395
which coincidentally why the new seasons are so divisive
the same type of fags who LOVE Threads only watched Black Mirror because they want to feel strung out and hollow on purpose

>>212446570 (OP)
Its your post that is scientifically inaccurate, moron. Manic depressive people don't want to "feel depressed all the time". They want to feel depressed half of the time, and manic the other half.

>>212446955
Not really what black mirror is about.

>>212447395
They suck and are generally much worse.
It's not that the happy ending is the problem, it's just not very well written

>>212446570 (OP)
>he thinks it's just reddit
how many posts have you seen in the last five years where people are chomping at the bit for civilization to collapse

>>212447395
by the time i thought, "you know what would be a good gimmick? if it wasn't all dour, and had a happy ending," they did that with the lesbians one. but it still relies on the premise that i take a 1:1 virtual-reality clone of someone to just 'be them'. which i don't believe.

>>212447670
>Not really what black mirror is about.
more the tone of it, really, what i'm expected to buy into. all these characters happen to be Machiavellian pricks? it really comes across like Charlie Brooker and them have this nasty attitude about people i just don't share.

even if someone was a nonce, people would work together to go after that nonce. their writing follows this pattern of "humanity is sick, in the science-fiction future there'd be all these nonces, wouldn't there? unfettered, we all have the capacity to commit horrible acts!" i mean sure, but it's so INTENTIONALLY bleak (rather than realistic) it becomes stupid.

>>212446916
>Which part do you think is scientifically inaccurate?
All of it

>>212446570 (OP)
This movie is satanic. I watched maybe 10 minutes and felt NO Spirit.

>conditioned by media to think fallout dooms whatever it touches to a poisoned wasteland
>radio activity diminishes in a matter of days

>>212447881

>>212446570 (OP)
For me, it's Testament 1983

>>212447873
>All of it
Some of it is really obvious, a lot of people would die in the initial blasts, utilities and communications would stop working, and what's left of the healthcare system would quickly be overwhelmed with more sick and injured people than can possibly be treated. Clearly not all of it is inaccurate, it happened in Japan in 1945.

>>212446916
>have you tried doing a hundreds of megatons nuclear exchange, in order to test this?
no, and neither have you

>>212446570 (OP)
>>spends half the run time speculating on a dystopia that wouldn't happen

The whole point of the movie is that we've become far too interdependent with the vast majority of humans possessing little to no survivable skills, and this was back in the 80s.

You're right that the portrayed dystopia in Threads wouldn't happen, because it would probably be much worse.

>>212448181
>Japan had 2 nukes dropped on it and their entire society collapsed and they forgot how to grow food and speak Japanese.

>>212446570 (OP)
>why does Reddit love this movie so much?
why don't you go back and ask them?

>>212448304
>you were talking about the earlier parts of the movie but I assert that no you were actually talking about the later more speculative parts

>>212447962
Is that you John Wayne?

>>212448304
>/tv/'s reading comprehension and understanding of things

>>212446570 (OP)
>scientifically inaccurate

Dont care simple as

>>212448748
Have you even seen Threads? The whole point of it was supposed to be plausibility, a warning about what could really happen if the Cold War escalated.
If you don't care and just want nukes + some dramatic storytelling you can look elsewhere

>>212447962
>implying that only stock standard nukes would be used in an all-out world war where the Geneva convention means fuck all

>>212449064
The whole point of Threads was that we've become far too interdependent as a species and that the vast majority of us possess little to no survivable skills in the event of a systemic/sudden collapse of our global economy.

>>212446570 (OP)
>>scientifically inaccurate
post one more accurate about the long term affects and how a post apoc society would act please.

>>212447998
She was right.

>>212447962
>no no the jews totally won't airburst half their shit for fun and endtimes

>>212446570 (OP)
for me it's brits losing the ability to speak properly in a single generation

>>212449756
Accurate description of the "post apocalypse"

-up to 3 decades of hardship and starvation
-a rebuilding of society and infrastructure
-50 years later it would look just like today

>>212446570 (OP)
>>212447962
I’m convinced that Carl Sagan straight made up nuclear winter as a way to scare governments into taking their fingers off the button
Now they’ve lived the lie so long they can’t admit it because it would reignite conflicts

>>212449803
I mean that happened in the years since Threads came out without nukes being dropped inshallah

>>212449815
>ignores post, replies anyhow.
POST A MORE ACCURATE MOVIE, RANJESH. PLEASE DO BE REDEEMING THE DISCUSSION.

>>212449852
>post one more accurate about the long term affects and how a post apoc society would act please.
Maybe once you learn how to spell, Rajneesh.

>>212449824
Well the bastardized caveman version of english still has some words and not just grunts with no meaning

>>212449896
You will never be a human.
>>212449937
>he thinks they speak english in the UK in 2025
anon...

>>212449818
There was a large segment of academic and artistic society that thought that Reagan's escalation of the Cold War was literally going to cause the end of humanity.
Stuff like Alan Moore's Watchmen was originally explicitly about Reagan, and they are really off-the-mark in hindsight.

>>212449815
Recent research does not debunk but instead reinforces the notion from the movie that nuclear war would destroy the ozone layer and expose us to a lot more UV light, for a decade or more.
So 50 years later it probably wouldn't be back to normal, you would still have tons of people being prematurely aged and afflicted with way more cancer and cataracts etc than today

>>212446570 (OP)
Watch The War Game you'll love it

Threads but instead of a nuke dropping the Paki population of England gobble up a bad batch of stinky curry and collectively unleash an unholy unfathomable stenchy fart

>>212449803
Brits don't even speak properly now. The vast majority is "oi m8 ye got a loicence fer that telly bruv? u bein cheeky lad? oi guvna can i get a bo oh o watah". It's even lower than cavemen. The only ones that speak a semblance of English are their elites and they're just snooty cunts.

>>212450057
>reinforces the notion from the movie
>instead states that the literal opposite of nuclear winter would happen and we’d have too much sun

>>212446916
During the Gulf War of 1991, the oil fires lit by Saddam's forces had an atmospheric effect comparable to a significant nuclear exchange.
There was ZERO measurable effect on the climate or weather, either locally or globally. Since 1991, the theory of nuclear winter has been quietly dropped by the scientific community.

>>212450192
>fire from oil
>comparable to nuclear weapons and radiation
Let me guess, you think the sun is just "fire" and don't know the difference between chemical reactions vs literal fusion and atoms splitting. Jesus Christ

>>212449960
Good point. I haven't been there in over 17 years and there were barely any white people there back then.

>>212450223
Discussion of nuclear winter is a discussion about atmospheric pollution, not directly about radiation. According to proponents like Carl Sagan, the mechanism that causes nuclear winter would be the massive firestorms that would hypothetically ensue in a nuclear exchange.
The oil fires of 1991 were the largest single non-volcanic emission of airborne pollution ever measured, and they were at the level that Sagan said would cause a cooling effect, and they had no such effect. Ergo, nuclear winter is not a valid theory.

>>212450337
Some oil fields going on fire is not equivalent to a global nuclear exchange. We have had mere volcanos cause cooler winters with their debris. You think everyone shooting off their arsenals all at once won't? We're reaching levels of retardation that shouldn't be possible.

>>212446570 (OP)
Misery porn is cathartic to the depressed and anxious. Given reddit is 75% anxiety-riddled, depressed neurotics, I imagine Threads comes about as close as they can get to a hardon through their gargantuan dosages of decade-long SSRI prescriptions.

>>212446916
>Which part do you think is scientifically inaccurate?

7/10 rule, radiation levels exponentially decrease with time. Within a few days of a nuclear detonation, fallout will have largely dropped to levels comparable to background radiation. Elevated risk of cancer over the next few decades for sure, but the chances of you developing ARS (i.e. your hair falling out and intestines melting) after the first few days of a nuclear exchange are near-zero.

Also depicting everyone as being illiterate 10 years after a nuclear war is retarded. Literacy is universal enough at this point that it would survive the apocalypse. Even if there are no schools around, your parents could still teach you bare minimum reading and writing.

>>212450402
Sagan himself publicly said in early 1991 that the Kuwaiti (and southern Iraqi) oil fields potentially being lit should cause regional cooling in South Asia.
They were lit, and all of the Sagan's predictions failed to materialize. Nuclear winter has not been a serious theory since 1991.

>>212450461
>Sagan himself said
I don't care. We are talking a nuclear war. Not even just a few bombs. All the debris across the planet is gonna cool shit down. As I said volcanoes have managed it. So hundreds of nukes shooting across the planet blowing shit up will surely do just as much. You cannot have that much explosive force and just brush yourself off and go about your day. You have to be a mouthbreathing retard to believe that.

>>212450337
You know air moves, right? Smoke over a few square miles of desert doesn’t change much. Hence why various volcanic eruptions don’t instantly cause nuclear winters.

Nuclear winter is about blocking the sun long enough to kill most plant life, which starves most/all animal life. The theory isn’t “dropped,” but no longer relevant without the possibility of GLOBAL nuclear war. And yes, the international community would be completely justified in utterly destroying anyone who uses a nuke in warfare.

>>212450160
It sounds a lot like you haven't seen Threads, if you don't understand that it depicts more than one time period or that one thing can follow another thing in it

>>212450454
Fallout is irradiated ash. Exposure to large amounts of ionizing radiation has long term effects.

This thread is clearly just propaganda to get people comfortable with nuclear war.

>>212447810
>>212447881
>>212450441
I really can’t tell if these faggots watch misery porn vicariously because they want to die and don’t have the balls to pull the trigger, or that they’re deluded enough to think they’d be Rorschach or Batman should the world end
>>212449999
They 100% feel the same way about Trump and seem to be getting more and more butthurt that he’s not going to war
The one blessing of pop culture moving so fast is there’s not enough time for gay liberals to make some obnoxious shit dumping on Trump because anything feels years out of date by the time it comes out. Closest they’ve gotten is Don’t Look Up and even liberals hated it for being smug and preachy

Still would like someone to suggest something better that focuses on the longer term. Genuinely interested. Most are either right after, or leading up to, or way after, instead of the actual progression of "society" after such events.

>scientifically inaccurate
>spends half the run time speculating on a dystopia that wouldn't happen
why does Reddit love this movie so much? why is the modern internet filled with manic depressive fags that deliberately want to feel depressed all the time?

>>212446916
Well...

>scientifically inaccurate
>spends half the run time speculating on a dystopia that wouldn't happen
why does Reddit love this movie so much? why is the modern internet filled with manic depressive fags that deliberately want to feel depressed all the time??

>>212450652
>Exposure to large amounts of ionizing radiation has long term effects.

Motherfucker did you not read what I just wrote? Obviously cancer and birth defect rates are going go to skyrocket after the nukes fly, but you aren't going to have your hair fall out and shit yourself to death after the first couple days. And you most definitely aren't going to have "nuclear winter" as >>212450337 pointed out.

>This thread is clearly just propaganda to get people comfortable with nuclear war.

No one here is rooting for nuclear war you dingus. But honestly, pollution caused by the physical destruction of cities (asbestos, pulverized concrete, and the like entering the atmosphere) would be a far greater cause for long-term concern because unlike radiation, that doesn't go away. Think all of all the nasty health problems the toxic dust kicked up from the destruction of two buildings during the September 11th attacks caused. Now imagine that happening to entire cities, and it's not being cleaned up because law and order has effectively disintegrated.

>>212446570 (OP)
>a work of fiction is not 100% grounded in reality, I'm going INSANE
why do you even bother with the medium?

>>212450729
The deeply depressed really do feel catharsis at the thought of death and some highly anxious people at the thought of others being subjected to their misery. The suicidal can actually, completely counterintuitively, stall their own deaths by fantasising about suicide, because it gives them some small relief. However, there are the truly anti-social who have the desire to believe that the rest of society is as dysfunctional and deranged as they are. They know that, in a disaster, they'd immediately resort to hording, stealing, begging etc. and would refuse to labour for a common good because they despise their fellow Man; thus everyone MUST be the same way, and so a ruthless and oppressive military dictatorship can be the only imaginable outcome by them. Threads' depiction of a return to serfdom under civil occupation isn't what they want, but the idea that people would collaboratively work to better each other's lives is antithetical to their deeply alienated worldview.

>scientifically inaccurate
>spends half the run time speculating on a dystopia that wouldn't happen
why does Reddit love this movie so much? why is the modern internet filled with manic depressive fags that deliberately want to feel depressed all the time?

>why is the modern internet filled with manic depressive fags that deliberately want to feel depressed all the time?
>OP started this thread specifically to get mad and sad at something no one was mad or sad about

The ironing.

>>212450337
We did have some mini ice age events from volcano eruptions where the ashes in the air blocked the sunlight for a few years and ruined the food production. But it wasn't permanent. So the concept of nuclear winter isn't unthinkable just very exaggerated. Recent studies on the asteroid strike that caused the extinction of dinosaurs showed that the levels of sulfur in the atmosphere were much lower than they thought so acid rain and other secondary effects weren't that bad.

>>212450461
Sagan was just a reddit TV "science man" like that nog, Neil Tyson

>>212451608
I'd say Sagan actually knew what he was talking about and didn't speculate too much on things he didn't know anything about but black science man is wrong 99% of the time

>>212450402
>nukes are more powerful than volcanoes

>>212452512
if they're not then we have failed, we should make enough so that we can beat a volcano

>>212452553
based. if Mother Gaia can do it, we can do it better.

>>212452512
We measure volcanic eruptions in megatons. Which is a million tons of tnt. Krakatoa was 200. We measure nukes like that too. At the height of the Cold War there were over 62k nuclear warheads ready to go.

>>212446570 (OP)
The whole nuclear winter thing is fully retarded but it was heavily shilled at the time, and was a convenient excuse for bleakmaxxing (in a very literal way) in the movie.

>>212452958
Nuclear winter was part of mutually assured destruction.

>>212450874
>megatons
look up the yield of little boy and fat man and compare it to tsar bomba

>>212453383
tsar bomba was a meme experiment. no actual warheads are close to that size

Why is this board so low IQ?

>>212454014
i can't speak for everyone, but ageing and drug/alcohol abuse.

>>212450441
>Given reddit is 75% anxiety-riddled, depressed neurotics,

This is me. How do I fix this? I have never taken any meds or anything.

>>212450441
>Misery porn is cathartic to the depressed and anxious.
Surely it would be the opposite though? When I'm feeling down I want to watch some escapist shit.

>>212454261
meditation, maybe try microdosing LSD?

plus all the standard diet, exercise, going-outdoors stuff.

>>212449815
>All major world governments/institutions simultaneously collapse, global population plummets to 17th century levels within a few years

>modern life would pick and up resume within a few decades

American, I take it?

>>212446570 (OP)
I never said it was realistic. I said it committed to the grim scenario presented in its fictional story.
>movies can make me feel depressed
Eat a steak and get some Sun, OP. Movies shouldn't be dictating your mood.

>>212454014
watching tv is the most low bar of "hobbies"

>>212454707
foreigner, I take it?

>>212456095
I'm obviously a non-American, thanks for confirming your nationality though.

>/v/ keeps telling me this is some soul crushing haunting movie
>its just a boring boomer movie

Probably the same people who think the exorcist is scary.

>>212446916
>Which part do you think is scientifically inaccurate?
Japan is doing fairly well for itself despite getting nuked twice. People live just fine in Hiroshima even. Also, all those thousands of nuclear tests done by the USA and Russia poisoned the ecosystem more than any nuclear exchange would, yet, we still live. You may argue that cancer rates have increased, but treatment also got better.

>movie is supposed to be a horror film
>UK is so white in it that it still seems preferable to modern UK

Was the piss scene really necessary

>>212456497
HOW DID IT TASTE?
VIC FUCKED MY WIFE
oh sorry, wrong thread.

>>212456461
>only black character is a murdering looter
yeah I'm thinking its keyed

>>212454014

>>212456768
>>212457315
fraid so

>>212454707
The point is that’s true for America. Threads is about what’ll it be like in Europe/uk after a nuclear exchange, due to how dependent the non-Soviet Europeans are on the US.

>>212456430
It’s people from the UK calling it horrifying because it’s primarily about how fucked the UK will be without US support. It nuked their perceptions of themselves as an empire.

>>212457315
saar i am high iq brahmin saar

>>212457315
Worse than it looks because half the "white" countries in the second graph are browns

>>212454380
LSD with anxiety is a bad combo, mushrooms are a better starting point. Add on decrease screen time and personal skill building and you're set. Or just stop being anxious

>>212446570 (OP)
In the catalog it looks like a soijak and the space between the mask and his collar is his open mouth

>>212454707
Saaaar no such thing as exponential growth saar. Me shit on street and eat with curry

>>212446570 (OP)
who gives a shit about reddit its Barry fuckin Hines you zoomer scum

>>212450337
>oil fires are basically the same bro

>>212452882
Do nukes spew out billions of tonnes of ash from the bowels of the Earth?

>>212460325
When the nukecanos explode yeah

>>212460325
Even the largest volcanic eruption didn’t do that. But thousands of nukes would, and instead of being limited to a single geographic location, it would be over all landmasses.

>>212446570 (OP)
appeals to browns who fantasize that whites would revert to a state of illiteracy within a generation for basically no reason whatsoever

>>212448748
we make the bomb, we drop the bomb, we elect obama
simple as