I tried explaining this to my parents and they didn't get it

>>212452320 (OP)
I could explain to you why you're mom "didn't get it" and your dad agreed with her, but you wouldn't want to hear it.

>>212452320 (OP)
I never saw the Titanic.
Don't regret it either. Chick flicks are gay.

I only remember two scenes from that movie
>the tits
>the guy banging on the propeller

>>212452320 (OP)
Because you're ignoring the emotions of the film in favor of logic when it's clear that the film wants nothing to do with logic.

virgins just don't understand

>>212452688
based memories

>>212452320 (OP)
>when people take jokes too seriously

>>212452688
>the guy banging on the propeller
twas kino

Titanic is great. If you ignore the chick flick part you see it's really a truth nuke about the nature of women. Cameron is a genius.

>>212452688
The orchestra deciding to play until they die was one of the best parts. Propeller guy was probably the best.

>>212452572
Please explain

>>212452320 (OP)
I thought it was John Krammer at first glance in that pic.

People also forget that when this bitch dies (finally) in her cabin she is surrounded by pictures of her life. Not of her husband, her children or or grandkids, nope none of them are shown.
Every fucking one is a picture of Rose.

>>212452320 (OP)

So Rose was the iceberg all along?

>>212453152
Your mom is just like Rose and a whore who is ashamed and so pretends to not get it. And your dad is a spineless cuckold who does get it but is too afraid and pussywhipped to speak out against your mom.

>>212453031
I think they stopped before they died, it's hard to play while swimming.

>>212453031
>orchestra going "fuck it, let's play"
the only thing I didn't like about that was that according to historical accounts they didn't play "Nearer My God To Thee" or whatever, they played a barrell roll.

I mean, if you knew it was hopeless, what better way to go down that singing drinking songs (and preferably drinking).

I mean, if I was the captain I coulda been like "Look, women and children first, but great news, the bar is fully open and free until the ship goes down".

>>212452320 (OP)
The explanation is that Jack "saved" her life but this dumb broad left a life boat to go look for him so event that explanation is disingenuous

>>212453268
The dead have no use for valuables, the living do though.

Imagine, if you will, you spend millions of dollars renting this enormous ship, supplying it for your expedition, crewing it, fitting it out with cutting-edge equipment, not to mention the cost of the submersibles and undersea rovers, just writing out huge cheques every day, your accountants keep committing suicide, the numbers are immense, epochal, galactic. All to find this one priceless artifact, that would not only pay for the expedition many times over but would also make you world famous as the greatest treasure hunter of all time.

And then this old woman, after you fly her out special so she can tell you where it might be opnly for her to bore you for days telling this inane story about getting fucked by a street urchin, not only tells you that she knew all along that it wasn't down there - because she had it the whole time - but then yeets it back into the sea as some kind of gesture to the ghost of Greasy Joe.

What do you do? Bear in mind you are in international waters

>>212453206
Many such cases!

>>212452320 (OP)
tell them you converted to judaism

in the deleted scene the guy asks to hold it and rose hands it over. all he had to do was go “thanks lol” and put it in his pocket, and maybe even dump rose overboard. in no universe where this is a real interaction is he handing back the thing

>>212453218
damn that kinda ruins the movie for me

>>212453152
Your mom got wet watching this movie, just like all the other broads in the theater and your old man got serious poontang. I'm surprised they didn't have to mop the damn floors, when we walked out. Sorry, younganon.

>>212453334
Say she fell overboard. You can still be tried for murder in the jurisdiction you're from. You can't just go out to sea, kill a guy and then walk free because you didn't do it within the border of a nation.

>>212453334
Kill her

>>212453448
i wonder how dicaprio prioritized his sex habits after the movie came out. you can only bust like what, three or four times a day? he was early 20s so i'm assuming four. so we can guess he spent at least a few months getting around 2 or 3 new chicks a day, right? seems reasonable. but still, that's only what, 200 or 300 women total. so you have access to basically the top 0.001% of attractive women but you can only sleep with 200 of them. how do you choose? it's a difficult prioritization problem. it's like going to a buffet where every item is michelin starred but you only have appetite for a few dishes and the buffet kicks you out after an hour. maybe he only dates chicks who look the same and are the same age because it's a decision-making strategy, reduces cognitive load.

>>212452320 (OP)
her husband was old money wealth. he didn't work hard.

>>212453481
Just stay at sea. Look at that boat, it's the size of an apartment building, you could easily live out your life there.

Because you're autistic, you picked apart the story on a narrative level while ignoring the obvious meta-level.
Old Rose isn't a character, her and the expedition are a framing device most of which is simply to jerk off James Cameron's Submarine fetish. Rose's Post-Titanic life is irrelevant and only made to be happy because it'd be lame if she just kind of did nothing and to give the chick he's banging a role but she's too shit to be in the actual movie. You put more thought into this than James Cameron ever did, reflect on how pathetic that is. You think you're smart for poking holes but you're actually a fucking retard who constantly misses the bigger picture. God you're so fucking stupid.

>>212453570
I'm not a serious movie guy or in-the-know, but I've seen several anons post, over the years, that it's an industry secret that he's a closeted homo, smart enough to know that it would have limited his career. True? No idea.

>>212452320 (OP)
As per usual, people don't understand that movies are not intended to be entirely literal. If you take the plot of any fucking movie and put it in the goddamn context of the REAL world, it would be absolutely asinine. That's why it's a fucking MOVIE. It is meant to be exaggerated. It is meant to be hyperbolic. It is meant to be LARGER THAN LIFE. Very few people want to pay money to see movies about the real world. Because the real world is abundantly fucking depressing. It's a confined prison with walls so high that you can't see over them.

Titanic is the definition of escapist entertainment. The entire premise is inherently ESCAPIST. What if we took this horrific tragedy that took the lives of so many people and recontextualized it with a Romeo & Juliet main plot? What if we took an event that had no hope and gave it some?

We now live in an age of people who are not just media illiterate, but are so plain fucking stupid (even dumber than previous generations somehow), that they can't even watch a movie without raging like a petulant child about the most superficial aspects of a narrative. And everyone is to blame.

YMS, RLM, CinemaSins, MauLer, Nostalgia Critic, AVGN, Angry Joe, so on and so forth.

"The sheriff’s intervention comes under the heading of what we have discussed many times before: 'Why don’t they go to the police?' I’ve always replied, 'They don’t go to the police because it’s dull.'" -Alfred Hitchcock

READ BETWEEN THE LINES

>>212453206
Lol and they wonder why marriage is dead

>>212453806
They are always either sex fiends who got into it to fuck theater sluts or are huge fags.

>>212453806
That would make more sense of why he's so specifically cited for fucking 19 year olds all the time when it's probably something like 50% of all major actors do. He hangs out with some model for 15 minutes and lets TMZ run a story once every week or two and no one's the wiser that he's sucking off Toby.

>>212453481
Her dumb bitch grandaughter was their too. You would have to yeet her overboard after her cunt of a granny as well, or she would rat you out.

>>212452320 (OP)
>tried explaining this to my parents and they didn't get it
>boomer doesn't understand what's wrong with boomer mentality
Shocker

>>212453570
>>212453806
>>212453950
If you came across (90s) DiCaprio in your daily life and he wasn't famous, would you really have thought he was some irrestiable female heartthrob?
To me, he's always looked like a little gay twink. I think that's what's actually been going on for years, all these young girls he's "dating" are just beards and smokescreens to cover up his closeted faggotry to protect his career.

>>212454182
>If you came across (90s) DiCaprio in your daily life and he wasn't famous, would you really have thought he was some irrestiable female heartthrob?
I'd imagine he could get a lot of high school/college freshman pussy, but not much beyond that. You could say that about a lot of twinks though.

>>212453837
this.

I mean, if Marion had just given Toht the medallion at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark, the outcome would have likely been the same except the ark would've been on some random-ass island in the mediterranean instead of in a warehouse.

>>212453243
Probably because that would be tacky and they were playing for the first class passengers so they gave everyone the first class experience.

>>212453837
Or maybe the movie just sucked balls and boomers just have shit taste. Paris, Texas and Buffalo 66 are far better kinos

This thread got me thinking. So the DiCaprio character pretty much sacrifices himself to save the woman because only one person could fit on the wooden plank right? Pretty standard trope of a guy being a hero and sacrificing his life for the girlfriend princess whatever. Are there any movies where the female character actually sacrifices her life to save others or save her love interest?

Right now I can only think of Ripley in Alien 3 where she jumped into the lava pool to kill the alien inside her, and maybe Scarlet Johansson in that Thanos movie.

>>212454593
>Are there any movies where the female character actually sacrifices her life to save others or save her love interest?
There shouldn't be because that's not their role, unless she dies to protect her children.
Woman dying to protect her man is spiritually gay and disordered.

>>212454454
This isn't about not liking a movie. If you don't like a movie, that's okay. There are lots of popular movies that I don't particularly like. I'm not the biggest fan of the original Matrix. I didn't enjoy Deadpool VS Wolverine. I didn't like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. I don't like Se7en. There's nothing wrong with that.

What's wrong with what I keep seeing is that people feel they need to make up reasons as to why they don't like something because they can't accept the fact that maybe the reason you don't like something is because it simply doesn't appeal to you. That doesn't mean that the people who liked it are stupid. It doesn't mean that they missed a crucial thing because they're incapable of critical thinking. It just didn't work for you.

"ACTUALLY, THE REASON I DIDN'T LIKE IT IS BECAUSE IN THE THIRD ACT THIS CHARACTER SAID THIS WHICH CONTRADICTS WHAT THEY SAID IN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THE SECOND ACT. CAN SOMEONE SAY PLOT HOLE?!!!!!!"

That right there isn't film criticism. It's cancer. And I am sick of seeing it continue to metastasize. I'm sick of seeing it treated as normal or even good that such low effort observations could be considered acceptable critique from anyone other than teenagers.

>>212452320 (OP)
The point is that to a woman a special tingle for a few days is worth more than a fulfilling entire lifetime, and they will also go out of this world actively taking wealth away to spite the young

>>212453570
>maybe he only dates chicks who look the same and are the same age because it's a decision-making strategy, reduces cognitive load.
lol

>>212452320 (OP)
Yeah she totally could have just sold this incredibly famous and valuable diamond without running afoul of the Hockley family who were still the legal owners

>>212455192
Not sure about status of limitations on this (it is 75 years after). Even should that be an issue you could get it recut, it would lose the pedigree cred but you could still get a hefty price for it. Or even just have her granddaughter wear it.

>>212455192
>who were still the legal owners
It was, very publicly, given to her as a gift. Only Cal and his bodyguard knew about the infidelity, Cal killed himself and the bodyguard never made it off the ship.

>>212455945
>It was, very publicly, given to her as a gift
no it wasn't

>>212453206
That's basically it

>>212454328
>hur durr tacky
what?

>>212452910
Do women really look like that? Gross.

>>212455192
She could have had it "broken" into smaller jewels, as it often happens with gems that big and nobody would be none the wiser.

>>212457084
yeah the jeweler she pays for this service wouldn't instantly recognize this famous diamond that's said to be more valuable than the Hope diamond on sight

>>212457084
>smashing a priceless diamond into pieces
Might as well throw it in the ocean

>>212454182
He was undeniably handsome in the 90s.

>all these young girls he's "dating" are just beards and smokescreens to cover up his closeted faggotry to protect his career.

This has been rumored for so many years to the point it almost feels like an open secret. The models get a career boost by having their names in the media (and also works as an advertisement to wealthy men that they're "available" as yacht girls) and he gets the "Hollywood heartbreaker who can't be tied down" reputation from it. It's rumored that he and his "best friend" Lukas Haas are basically a couple.

>On April 10, 1912, millionaire John Jacob Astor IV and his pregnant 18-year-old wife, Madeleine, boarded the RMS Titanic in France

I hate how disingenuous this meme is, they had many moments together other than having sex, do the incels just forget about all those other scenes?

>>212457368
Forgot to add, he and his pal Lukas also live together, confirmed by Lukas' grandmother in a German interview from 2016 kek.

>Meanwhile, the connection between Leonardo DiCaprio and the Haas family has existed for a small eternity. "He is the best friend of my dear grandson Lukas," says the old lady. The two have been inseparable since their youth, and now live in different living areas, but in a common house.

Just bros bein' bros

>>212454182
He had roles in 1995 that made him appear gay or trying to be a rentboy. Your observation is not keen or unique at all.

>>212453206
Accurate.

>>212453334
>It was some sad shit, old lady said she didn't want to live no more

>>212452320 (OP)
why do you care what women think?

>>212452320 (OP)
That means your moms a whore, watch some redpill and learn about women, this bitch on the titanic should have died, she left her rich husband for CHAD only to get married and still dream about CHAD for the rest of her life and on her deathbed rather than be with the man she married and have kids with she went for CHAD

Hypergamy

It's real, fuck women

>>212452320 (OP)
Trust me your mom got it, and she's playing absolute dumb, tell your dad to talk to a lawyer now

>>212457210
First of all she's old as shit, he'd be obviously younger and not necessarily in-the-know about a jewel disappeared 50+ years prior.
NDAs also exist, as well as black market professionals.
>>212457244
You obviously don't know shit about famous jewels.

>>212453152
Boomers are incapable of empathy. They act purely on emotion and in self-interest.
>my kids/family could have done what? But *I* wanted to do *that*

>>212457715
>Woman chooses rich abuser over poor artist
Redpill. Women are gold digging whores
>Woman leaves her abusive arranged suitor out of love for Jack, even though he's poor
Redpill. Women are shallow whores
>Woman doesn't choose either
Redpill. Women have insane standards. Enjoy being a childless 40 year old spinster
>Woman chooses both
Kek, women are whores.

>>212457417
Still a glorified weekend sexscapade -a cheating sexscapade mind you- decided on a whim with the closest available bad boy, which is what she cares about as opposed to the 70 years of marriage with grandchildren, and a many million dollars costing choice.
Titanic was for young men of those days an even more brutal redpill than the Quasimodo scene.

>>212453387
if he dumped her overboard the other bitch next to him will report it

ok so throw her overboard now you killed 2 people for the diamond.

How do you cover it up while explaining you have the Diamond?

Either you leave them overboard go to sleep and pretend you dont know anything

OR

You do another dive to the titanic and when you collect some other trinket or box you put it in your hand as a fist and and put your hand into the box and pretend you've found something pulling out the diamond.

You still need to deal with the 2 deaths though and how they happened any help on this guys?

>>212457917
>decided on a whim with the closest available bad boy
What implied he was a "bad boy"
>>212457917
>which is what she cares about as opposed to the 70 years of marriage
They both shared an extremely traumatic event in which someone sacrificed their life for her.

>>212457914
>Woman leaves her abusive arranged suitor out of love for Jack, even though he's poor
Do you know abut alpha fucks and beta bucks? Chad was clearly an alpha so he one ups the rich man and looks overpower status, AND she would have eventually left Chad once she realised that he was bringing in zero dollars and lived a poor lifestyle, a woman of that calbur will NEVER date downwards, they only date on their level and above.

Get redpilled kid, or you got a tonne of hurt coming your way from women

>>212453806
He's not a homo.
He 'might' be bi. His relationship with Lukas Haas is definitely... interesting. But the mgmt story as well as Rihanna randomly dropping that he was the best she ever had (when no one even knew they'd hooked up) confirms pretty clearly that he does/did bang a lot of women.

>>212452320 (OP)
the bitch from Forrest Gump was much worse

>>212458060
that was the most realistic depiction of women and them friendzoning you, even after fucking gump she fucked off to fuck other faggots, once friendzoned its pretty much over, they will only fuck out of pity

>>212453595
No, that was not her husband. She married so random dude after the events of the movie.

>>212453152
Women only get in love with their first man. The rest are just copes to fill the void.

>>212452320 (OP)
Ocean explorer, have I ever told you about my former fiance, Caledon Hockley? He once took me on a luxurious trip aboard the most majestic vessel created by man. A great man of many virtues and success, he used to pamper me and shower me with expensive gifts, basically treating me like a Queen. Oh, he loved me so very dearly and with utter loyalty, this made me hate his guts and thus I was even considering suicide just to escape from his kindness and affection. I showed him how grateful I was by cheating on him with a poor lower-class bum, who hadn't taken a bath in month and had achieved nothing of worth in his entire life. After spreading my legs for him, I watched him die horribly in freezing water, from the comfort of a piece of wood that had room for two but that I kept only for myself. I'm telling you this, because even though I've only known this bum for a couple of days and I now have a loyal husband, loving children and grandchildren, even to this day, the thrill of cheating with a dirty no-gooder just to spite Cal and watching the life escape from his eyes as his body shut down from agonizing hypothermia is still the best memory of my life and still gives my old vagina shivering tingles. I stole one of Cal's most valuable diamond necklaces, but not before leaving him a gratuitous letter filled with poisonous insults, and after we made it back to shore, I never talked to him again. Cal killed himself shortly afterwards due to financial distress. Although the diamond necklace is still to this day worth an immense fortune and holds significant historical value for you, I just threw it in the ocean on a whim 5 minutes ago. Did you know it belonged to the great King Louis XVI? I can't imagine the trouble Cal went through just to obtain it for me. He was a good fiance.

>>212458240
The first definitely has a boost, but can be overtaken by another one higher on the Chad scale, at which point she will retroactively despise her first. Women only have any good intent for the chaddest man she got with up to the present.

>>212458240
This would be more meaningful if 99% of this site wasn’t pining over their oneitis from grade 10

>>212453182
fucking kek

im coming to the realization that women love themselves so much they cant possible love anyone else. glad this movie confirms that

>>212453199
she was a -berg all along, thats for sure

>>212452320 (OP)
>harry potter dullest franchise posts have dedicated prunings
>this spam stays up 24/7

>>212458807
>Forming your opinions about women from a female character for a movie written by a man
Terminal retardo

>>212458807
they can love their children and parents but their "friends" or husbands? fuggetaboutit

>>212452320 (OP)
It depends. How did she get the necklace? Was it a gift or did someone buy it for her? If someone bought it for her, then yes, she had no right to throw away all that money. But I'm sure someone like her doesn't need that money.

>>212456235
Yes, it was. He expressly bought it for her.

>>212453031
>the film was only slightly off from the actual reality and these mad lads did actually go down with the ship, playing thier music until the forced of physics itself made it impossible
Godspeed, you magnificent bastards.

>>212453031
>The orchestra deciding to play until they die
that scene made me proud to be a musician

>>212458807
Didn’t Florence Nightingale basically admit this?

>>212452910
heh

>>212457914

>>212453488
Doesn't she die of old age immediately afterwards

>>212452320 (OP)
The real villain of life is women.

>>212458035
You really think Rihanna couldn't be paid to lie about shit like that?

>>212458060
>>212458100
Jenny was definitely a dumb whore, but what the fuck did she owe Forrest? They were childhood friends and he had a crush, that doesn't mean she has to go out with the clearly mentally disabled dude. I doubt most of you would feel obligated to marry some down syndrome chick just because she had a crush on you.

>>212452320 (OP)
>'here, my children, take this dazzlingly expensive piece of jewelery. i don't need it anymore.'
>throws herself into the ocean to be with her beloved Leonardo DiCaprio forever

there, that's all they had to do.

>>212453243
If they've been drinking, they may have survived. One of the survivors was I believe a chef who survived in large part because he kept drinking and kept his body temperature warmer that way.

>>212452320 (OP)
Feminist cunt who should have been fed to the sharks

>>212460625
She misled him in thinking he had a chance so he would linger around and she could use him as a teddy bear. The tism of Forrest made him even more unable to read the situation than the average orbiter.

>>212460625
Jenny loved Forrest. That was why she was always running away from him. She didn't want to take advantage of him like her father with her.

>>212452320 (OP)
nigga, it's just money. there's more to life than money dipshit

>>212460547
You really think a billionaire pop star would lie about something like that for money? In a random interview that she brought up only one time? That barely anyone knows or cares about?
The thing about pr moves is that they're semi-predictable because they want a return on investment. So if they make up a lie, they have to make sure everyone hears the lie. And they wouldn't pay one of the richest singers in the world, they'd work with a moderately famous singer mounting a comeback.
So no. This doesn't seem like a paid lie and there's zero evidence to suggest it is aside from people wanting Leo to be gay.

>>212460922
>She misled him in thinking he had a chance so he would linger around and she could use him as a teddy bear.
I don't remember thinking that was what she was doing. I don't remember her using him at all until they one time they slept together. He sought her out almost every single time they met iirc.

>>212452320 (OP)
>>212452910
>>212456844
James Cameron looks more and more like this old hag every day.

>>212452910

>rose is actually a cunt
>quaritch is actually more interesting than sully
James Cameron everyone

>>212459430
he did not gift it to her in any sort of public view. watch the movie again. it simply doesn't happen.

>>212452320 (OP) Nigga, are you retarded? Leonardo DiCaprio SAVED her fucking arse. Her husband wouldn't be her husband if it wasn't for Leonardo DiCaprio.

>>212453481
>You can still be tried for murder
you can be tried for almost anything. But with ZERO evidence you will not be found guilty

>>212452910

>>212453387
>all he had to do was go “thanks lol” and put it in his pocket, and maybe even dump rose overboard. in no universe where this is a real interaction is he handing back the thing
simply as

>>212464855
>simply
*simple

>>212453837
Coming to the conclusion that Rose is the villain is reading between the lines though? It's a reading of the film based on everything beyond what the narrator (Rose) says and takes into account everything else that happens beyond just her word for it. If we're to accept Titanic at face value like Cameron seemed to intend then it's just a sappy love story taking place during a great tragedy. Giving it any depth of analysis though Titanic is about Rose being the greatest of evils: a woman.

>>212453837
Congratz on making such a big post without a point. It really takes a special kind of retardation to achieve that.
Regardless of how you try to define it, it's message is whatever people see it as and works are self-contained and cannot be redefined post-watch by limp wristed hand wringing by either the creators or the critics.

>>212453837
>What if we took this horrific tragedy that took the lives of so many people and recontextualized it with a Romeo & Juliet main plot? What if we took an event that had no hope and gave it some?
and they were 99% of the way there...and did the throwing away the stone at the end part and left people with a sour taste in their mouth

felt the same way when Maverick threw Goose's dog tags in the ocean. Like that's great you feel moved on...but surely his wife or son might have liked those?

>>212464815
Needs “No.” on the bottom and it’s perfect

>>212460721
I thought alcohol only made your body perceive a rise in temperature?

>>212466906
the enzymatic reactions the body uses to process alcohol are exothermic. that energy has to go somewhere, so it warms the body

>>212466958
Ah, okay then. Thanks anon.

>>212453206

They hated him because he told the truth