Corrupted by money and power, like all people.

>>212458261 (OP)
it wasn't so much the slot as it was him moving to LA, those 15+ years in Commiefornia has completely ruined him

Better writers room.

He's not funny in prime time?

If Conan's not funny in prime time, then there's reason to live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8cWKkYMtUo

>>212458261 (OP)
forever leno's bitch

>>212458261 (OP)
Too much pressure, Late Night is a bit more freeform. Boomers didn't get his humor.

>>212458261 (OP)
He was about as funny in both.

>>212458420
Why are Indians latching on to Jay Leno lately? That retard has never made anyone laugh in his life.

>>212458594
He speaks on their intelligence level (which is very low)

His original writers room was all balding or skinny chuds, not one bitch.

>>212458616
>>212458594
>if you don't like the ginger bum you are a pajeet
nice projection kek

>>212458624
and they were actually funny
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIaubNk0e58

>>212458515
his humor is derived from his perceived underdog status and self deprecating style. he would've had to shed all of that to be an effective host of the Tonight Show. the mainstream audience doesn't want to see some self perceived freak flagellate himself, they want someone with more confidence. even Letterman was too weird for the Tonight Show audience and he's way more confident than Conan

Absurdist humor requires some mental energy to decipher and enjoy

chuddies still crying about Haiti

>>212458261 (OP)
He got old and lost touch

Conan was popular in the late late slot because it’s a different audience than the late night slot. One of his first tonight show’s he put on a disguise and did a focus group where most say they don’t like him.
His audience has always been small compared to those in the 10 o’clock slots.

>>212458261 (OP)
Not enough Haitians in the demo.

>>212458678
The only thing he's wrong about is the age.

>>212458261 (OP)
It was 2AM. The audience was college stoners.

>>212458407
>faggot making $170K a year in 1997 to shoot the shit in a writer's room makes light of suicide
at least he's not Brian Stack, the even softer more effeminate version of Conan

>>212461339
12:35, retardo.

>>212461439
Shit taste, both of those guys were great

Conan was never as talented as Letterman or Leno when it came to monologues. He was never gonna succeed in the earlier slot.

>>212458381
This. Most of Conan's humor came from how he played off the absurdly stupid skits his writers would come up with.

Careful, Icarus...

>>212458381
This. Conan is nothing without writers.

>>212458325
>those 15+ years in Commiefornia has completely ruined him
Specifically outside of the Haiti thing? I am a zoom zoom so never experiences 90s/early 2000s Conan

>>212461591
Partly true, but a lot of it comes down to Letterman and Leno being boomer humor, and Conan was very millennial coded. Only boomers have a religious subservience to the television. By the late 2000's, millennials were weren't watching scheduled TV as much.

>>212461541
You a dumb faggot, only Smigel and Jon Glaser were any good. You probably loved Mad TV too fucking nigger brain.

>>212461856
Negative. Mad TV always sucked.

>>212458381
It was the same everything stupid. Conan couldn’t do the same slapstick he was used to doing late late.

>>212461663
conan is the goat of just wandering around in public riffing off of what he's seeing and experiencing, he's also a great interviewer and a solid writer, although his best writing years were behind him long before he became a talkshow host.

I say that he was always surrounded by classic liberals, then he went to commiefornia, and the blatant marxist subverters who run hollywood there corrupted him. They did the same to a heap of politically neutral or classic liberal celebs over time, especially anyone who moves there.

>>212458261 (OP)
Not allowed to make certain jokes

>>212461439
looks like a doughy cousin of Gabriel Byrne.

>>212462764
>then he went to commiefornia, and the blatant marxist subverters who run hollywood there corrupted him.


retard

>>212458261 (OP)
I think the writers with actual creativity wound up on the low budget areas of tv because they could come up with creative stuff but weren't good at climbing the ladder
its why all that main stream stuff is so insanely terrible, it's all talentless hacks that are just good at networking or nepobabies in the high salary jobs

>>212458261 (OP)
He had already stopped being funny for a couple years before he got the Tonight Show slot. Leno was better but even he was past his peak by then too. Both were better than Fallon though.

>>212458261 (OP)
Those were the days.
Living in flyover country, we'd stay up to watch his Midwest New Year's countdown.

>>212461439
he was good on Conan but he writes for Colbert's terrible show now (i recognized his voice as many of the "funny cartoon needle voices" in all the VAX-SCENE bits) so my opinion of him has gone down

(a quick glance at his twitter years ago when i still used it, damn (((they))) really have gotten to him too, i remember following him years ago and never really tweeted any politicfag stuff (this was before he wrote for Colbert) usually just posted good clips from old sketch shows and his favorite musical performances on old 90s Conan shows

>>212467449
*years ago i followed him when i still used it* that was supposed to say

for late night conan was in new york with lorne michaels as executive producer, nbc didn't care much and even the nbc exec responsible for the show didn't watch the show or care as long as lorne was happy

for the tonight show he lost lorne's protection and nbc was watching for once and giving him notes, he lost creative control and only really brought it back when he was getting fired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2IYgh_sjo

>>212467449
not just write, he's the head writer
what stranger is brian mccann just vanished

>>212458261 (OP)
No triumph the dog, no laughs

>>212458261 (OP)
late night was for stoners who liked his le quirky humor if reddit had been a thing back then conan would have been called reddit. prime time was for boomers who liked the simple, predictable, safe humor of Leno's show.

>>212461966
Yes. Late night time slot afforded him the ability to be more irreverent, since his primary audience would be 18-34. When he moved to the earlier time slots, he had to make sure his show wouldn't alienate the 50+ year olds and soccer mom types who watch the earlier night time comedians.

11:30 format was already long dead and his 12:30 format was already obsolete because of the internet. The handful of boomers still watching didn't like him.

>>212458261 (OP)
NBC had to pay out his contract to the tune of almost $45 million (nearly $70m today accounting for inflation) to get Leno back in the slot. Conan made out like an absolute bandit, then saw over a decade of moderate success on TBS where he made almost $12 million a year.

>>212461636
The goat.

>>212466996
Based, loved this segment
>those unhinged rants about Stargate SG-1 culminating with him getting a guest appearance on Atlantis or some shit

>>212459972
his thing was he was a creepy weird nerd/loser and he would make fun of himself for it. he had this really awkward creep persona which obviously has a lot of comedic merit its basically like having an endless wellspring.
then he got married and had kids, amassed wealth, probably new upper crust friends, probably happy 24/7
totally crushed his creativity
basically the same shit that happened to larry david

>>212461636
MY FUARKING HERO

>>212462764
>FAGERSTROM
>I KNOW YOU'RE IN THERE

>>212467607
yeah i always wondered where he went to, most of the other old Conan writers went to other late night shows to write for or wrote for other various things or some even became more known for acting in stuff (Jon Glaser and Smigel) though he did make an appearance as the FedEx Pope on that recent Conan Mark Twain thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjH-GV8XhyQ
that dude was always the top tier Conan character guy, he seemed like he coulda been an SNL cast member in another timeline back in the 90s

>>212458381
This.

But could they not pay those same writers enough to move over? I feel like the comedy writing would be the most important piece of a comedy show.

>>212458381
yep, no non-whites in the 12:30 on NBC days, TBS era he was forced to hire tons of women (back in the 90s i can only find one woman on record for writing there, someone named Alison Silverman, no relation to Sarah, some of the women in this pic are producers or other crew i think, i think Silverman was the curly haired woman) and black and latino and indian writers

>>212458261 (OP)
>Why was Conan funny in the late night time slot but not prime time?

He was funny in the 90s. Back then he still had enough counter culture cynicism to have some bite. But then he became the establishment.

>>212470823
yeah Allison Silverman (and for one season
Janine Ditullio, who voiced the mom on Home Movies) I think were the only woman writers in the entire Late Night run, I know Laurie Kilmartin (who i previously knew from her often being on Tough Crowd) was the next one who was there for the entire TBS run

>>212470823
TV was better before diversity quotas, back when they hired based on talent not because you checked a box

still one of my fav skits from the NBC late night days

https://youtu.be/k5_YQgFajmk?t=35

>>212470932
>>212470835
If we’re going to have good comedies again we’re going to need writers rooms filled with >75% Jewish men

>>212458261 (OP)
trying to pander to actual baby boomers, who are retarded, instead of just doing his own thing

>>212466996
>>212469348
Based Pierre Bernard enjoyers. His rant on anime voice actresses is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJ7ZWUoK4M

>>212470969
wow i havent seen or thought about these bits (i remember they did it at least a couple of times) since these aired back when i was in high school. the Jon Glaser skits/characters always tickled my funnybone most when it came to conan skits, in that clinton puppet skit it just felt like he was fucking around and not even reading a script lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06MXG_PGVa4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVTkdkKdZ_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOPByNYDqm4
his comedy was my kind of silly stupid shit (same reason I loved his post-Conan stuff like Delocated and Neon Joe)

>>212471132
meant to include shofar guy, those stupid album covers always got me good in each appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EGJOTXGiNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DOlpOBI838

>>212470969
>>212471132
>>212471186
Such good times, man. Take me fucking back.

>>212458261 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYyLZW6IRE
i still often get the Gaseous Weiner themesong stuck in my head, damn this shit was hilarious to me when i was like 11 and just discovering conan this felt like the shows most frequent character at that time, that and Oldy Olsen

>>212471292
Tommy Blacha really timed out those jerky movements with the fart sounds perfectly lol

>>212458261 (OP)
the fake NBC "the more you know" PSAs were always one of my favorite early regular bits i remember, Max's were always the best ones those were like the early years of them figuring out the "Max is a creep/perv/sexist" jokes were a good character for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_OLt_mkxLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9n0MYoBx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sHifWVupDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roa1ei6Lm-s

>>212471430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqzXbh3hDh4
those were the best

>>212470969
>making fun of clinton
the funniest shit i've ever seen
>making fun of trump
he deserves to die for this

>>212458261 (OP)
by late night you're drunk

>>212470982
>If we’re going to have good comedies again we’re going to need writers rooms filled with >75% Jewish men

The current generation of jews aren't as funny as the older generations. Gen X jews used up all their best material years ago and everyone in Hollywood has gotten so uptight about identity politics and woke bullshit that they're afraid to step on anyone's toes. The result is that every joke is just targeted at white conservatives ad nauseum because they're the only people they're allowed to make fun of. Throw on the veneer of pushing the bizarre alien social values of Hollywood and they come off as completely unrelatable disingenous propagandists.

Take Curb Your Enthusiasm as an example. Larry David is the funniest jew of his generation and the early seasons of Curb are great; but after his hiatus in the reboot years he loses the plot, Larry becomes unrelatable and the democrat agenda pushing becomes so in your face that it starts sucking the joy out of everything.

There's no going back. The old jews aren't funny anymore and the new jews never were. The whole system has to die and be rebuilt by new studios that actually have to sell real comedy to the public instead of just coasting by controlling the system.

im not even sure gen z understands comedy. nothing has been funny in years you have to go way back in time for that.

>>212471430

>Max on Max
>with Max watching

>>212471186
fuck I forgot about the Walker Texas Ranger lever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9fLBAcYmnI

>>212472494
You now remember Paul Rudd and that stupid fucking video clip

So many goofy characters. Not sure if I like Vomiting Kermit or the Evil Puppy more.

>>212472522
I do not recall

>>212472664

For me its the Robot Rabbi.

>>212472731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcqGBrHDtw

>>212470904
Tough Crowd getting cancelled was a fucking travesty. I’m still mad twenty years later.

>>212458594
Jay is actually hilarious but he was heavily toned down to appeal to everyone

>>212472792
Same. A lot of comedian panel shows have came and went since then and none were as close to as good as tough crowd which just had this realness and ball busting the other wannabes never did. Like someone once put it, tough crowd was as close to a televised look at the back room of a comedy club of comics shooting the shit and busting each other balls as we ever got. CQ basically invented the format of all the comedian hangout podcasts we have today and doesn’t typically get the credit for it.

>>212472819
People that used to like him in the 80s all thought he sold out in the 90s once he got the tonight show and was doing Doritos commercials.