>They were making a move. I had to get it on.

Why do WWI movies always portray the central powers (exclusively Germany because nobody else was involved right?) as the bad guys?

>>212474773 (OP)
He unironically did nothing wrong, if you have to blame anyone for the war then blame the Austrians, the Serbs, the French, or the Russians.
>b-but Belgium
Fuck Belgium.

I prefer the prequel

>>212475659
Because jews

>>212475973
>He unironically did nothing wrong
He started a war he couldn't win.

>>212475973
The retard wrecked Bismarck's carefully planned out system of alliances that was preserving the German nation because he wanted to be a big boy monarch like his cousins with big fleets and big empires. Granted, even a non-retard probably wouldn't have been able to prevent it, but he went at the Jenga Tower of Europe with a sledgehammer.

>>212475659
everyone involved was cruising for a bruising and in a just world the aristocrats in charge would've been guillotined by the people they sent to die in a pointless war

>>212476366
>supporting your allies is starting a war
Germany was a secondary power called into a war on Austria's behalf, this idea that they started the war themselves is nonsense.

>>212476389
The aristocrats were absolutely decimated during world war 1 because society still operated under the traditional mode of officers leading the charge from the front

>>212476471
AH dared to "start" the war only because Willie gave them a carte blanche and promised to back them up no matter what. It most certainly was NOT a secondary power, go read a book, nigger.

>>212476511
Wilhelm did promise to back them up, but he also tried to dissuade them from trying to conquer all of Serbia and wanted them to simply subjugate Sarajevo instead. The Austrians told him no. Wilhelm also tried limiting the war by negotiating until the very last second, it was only when it was clear that full scale war was going to break out that he decided to lean into it.

>>212476366
the eternal anglo strikes again

>>212476598
>clearly stated "if you do this we will declare on you"
>do this
>they declare war on you
Wow!

>>212476570
>subjugate Sarajevo
it was already de facto subjugated, you really need to look into things before opening your mouth
>>212476598
>let us invade everyone else, we promise we won't invade you next
>no
>*cue tard rage*

>>212476640
>it was already de facto subjugated
Yeah, that was the point you mouth-breathing retard. If the Austrians had been content to simply police Sarajevo and declare victory to the world then WWI could have been avoided. That was what Wilhelm wanted. Instead they were so pissed that they wanted all of Serbia crushed. Meanwhile the French and Russians were encouraging this behavior because they wanted war for their own reasons. People only think Germany started the war because they were much stronger than AH, and so the propaganda naturally pointed towards them as the main villain.

>>212476632
>>212476640
>*starts two world wars and drags their allies into it to prevent german unification*

>>212476708
>If the Austrians had been content
They weren't, and Germany backed up their delusions.
>That was what Wilhelm wanted
clearly not, his generals were also gassing him up about the necessity of war with russia NOW rather than later, because it was industrializing fast (overestimating russia seems to be an eternal thing)
>Meanwhile the French and Russians were encouraging this behavior because they wanted war for their own reasons.
They really weren't, but they were counting on an austrian chimpout. Serbia was ready to grovel but Austria went even beyond retardation with their demands.
>Germany started the war because they were much stronger than AH
Because their strength and assurances and encouragement led to Austria attacking.
If an adult tells a child to go kick stab another kid, and that kid's parents come to their defence, who's at fault really?

>>212476389
>just world the aristocrats in charge would've been guillotined
They were guillotined by bullets and artillery. Multiple monarchies fell because of the war. Officers usually have a higher casualty rate than enlisted men and this was especially true in an age where you had men who were pretty highly ranked participating in ground combat.
>In 1995, British military historians Frank Davis and Graham Maddocks compiled, in the book Bloody Red Tabs, a list of 78 general officers that they considered to have been killed as a result of active service
If you go and look at the biographies of a lot of these generals they were explicitly warned about the dangers of frequent front line visits but did it anyway.

>>212475659
because US was on the opposite side and they are the guys making movies
also that's not even true, arguably the most popular WWI story is all quiet on the western front, which is from german POV

>>212474773 (OP)
the original nepo babies

>>212474773 (OP)
What movie?

>>212477025
Paths of Glory

>>212476372
The Austrians were complely unreliable as allies. I dont think Germany has much hope for a better one though

>>212474773 (OP)

der kaiser war ein hosenscheißer

>>212476640
>let us invade everyone else, we promise we won't invade you next
Go look at the size of the British empire before ww2 and tell me who invaded everyone. Danzig was a German city and wanted to rejoin the reich.

>>212476985
Isn't it insane that the entire western world was ran by one family? Imagine where we would be today if instead of dick swinging they would have shut the fuck up and played nice

>>212476941
>also that's not even true, arguably the most popular WWI story is all quiet on the western front, which is from german POV
This, the moral of that movie was "war le bad no matter who fights."
Also there is a French series called Le Combattantes in which again there is no good and bad side, and there is an incredibly touching moment involving German soldiers. That show is kino, but it is focused on women so chuds won't like it.

>>212476941
>arguably the most popular WWI story is all quiet on the western front
A shame, I found storm of steel to be far more interesting. It's been a while since I read Remarque but I felt like I learned more about the actual conditions of infantry from Junger. I'm also not sure how much of All Quiet on the Western Front is fictionalized.

>>212477337
>all quiet on the western front
>that movie
The netflix brainlet reveals itself

>>212477301
The UK was run by the Parliament, like today the Royals were just symbols, basically celebrities.
The German Empire was divided on one side by the monarchy with the aristocrats and industrialists and on the other side with the various political parties. Only Russia was ruled by a monarch with absolute power which made the bourgeoisie mad, the conditions in which the masses lived made the socialists also angry.

>>212477268
invading niggers on the other side of the world =/= starting a war in europe

>>212477378
>seething retard with low iq and shit taste in movies reveals itself and projects
Dumbest post in the entire thread.

>>212477398
Yes but the Monarchs still had influence and could have helped prevent the war or end it early

>>212477525
They had limited influence and they wanted war just like everybody else at the time.

>>212477549
Hence my point that if they wanted to play nice things could have been different

>>212477568
>if they wanted
Things are much more complicated in real life. For example the ruling class is often under the influence of their investors.

>>212477398
>people ITT floating the idea of the royals acting like absolutists
How long would they actually last if they openly attacked the will of parliament? Both today and on the eve of WW1? I imagine they had much more implicit support back then but I don't know for certain.

>>212477239
They had a secret alliance with Russia that Willy tore up because he was a retard who didn't realise that fighting a two-front war was stupid.

joyeux noel

>>212477357
Storm of Steel is excellent. Very understated in its portrayal of brutality, but because Junger isn't whinging about how horrible war is every five minutes people assume it's some nationalistic glorification when it's anything but.

>>212476260
>German Cone
What??

>>212475659
>won eastern front
>on french land
>signs armistice

>>212477378
i thought he was talking about that 1930s movie

>>212474773 (OP)
>Well, you know, for me the action IS the juice. I'm in.

>>212474773 (OP)
>>212476309
>start war with multiple countries you can't hope to beat
>lose
>cry that you're the victim
why are wehrboos like this

>>212479464
>ww1
>wehraboo

>>212479498
they also retroactively damage control for germans in WW1.

The general line of thought is germany can just do whatever it wants with no consequences and if you oppose this you're an evil warmonger. It extends into the tucker carlson mindset today that if you mildly inconvenience russia/china/iran/palestinians/etc you're an evil neocon warhawk

>>212475659
Because it’s true

>>212476758
What Germans were being united by invading Poland and the Soviet Union?

>>212479464
>start
lol
lmao

>>212475659
because they lost the war
>>212476941
also this

>>212479530
>hehe, if we support terrorists who kill the heirs of world leaders we'll advance our cause
>oh no, why are you attacking us!?!!

>>212479579
>you don't get it! we HAVE TO invade Czechoslovakia, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, France, Yugoslavia, Greece, USSR, and North Africa and declare war on the US and also end up backstabbing and invading all of our own allies too because the jews forced us to!

>>212479530
with a bit of luck, somewhere will mildly inconvenience the US by blowing up all its nuclear plants leaving the populated irradiated for a hundred years.

>>212479755
it won't tho. All that's gonna happen is palestinians keep dying screaming lmao

>>212479841
>posts crying about germans are made by the palestinians die screaming schizo
Color me shocked.

>>212479884
just stating the truth. Nothing is going to happen to anyone or anything except palestinians dying screaming in comedic ways.

I find it fascinating that Austria Hungary was as big a superpower or bigger than Germany, France, and close to UK before WW1 but for their actions they slowly dissolved themself until they split into 2 irrelevant countries that barely have a trace of their once impressive status

>>212476473
Maybe the war wasn’t so bad after all.

>>212480000
multikulti, not even once

>>212480000

WW1 was so bad and clowny for the Ottomans that it made everyone forget the fact that they were the world's big bad for like 500 years prior. It was truly the cuckening of many great imperial regimes.

>>212477301
anons literally two thirds of Europe's royal families were/are German, and the rest were/are French.
royals had this rule that princes can only marry princesses. but by the 19th century there wasn't many kingdoms left in Europe because they had already absorbed all of their neighbours, except in Germany.
so Germans managed to marry their princesses off everywhere, raising their children as Germans. next time there's a dynasty change the German heiress marries her German cousin, and boom, your first-rank country is now ran by a low-rank German family who just happened to be the "royals" of some bumfuck dump in Saxony. of course they continue to marry each other from this point.
this happened in England, Russia, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Greece, Portugal etc.

woke war I

>>212480245
>great war for civilisation
>starts a series of cascading events that appears to be leading to the end of their civilisation

>>212476598
Hey...at least they're not speaking German, amirite?
they're speaking Arabic instead and betrayed their own people

>>212479718
>Czech
20 year old state using all its political to disenfranchise Germans. It hated Germany very much as it saw it was an existential threat.
>Poland
Held land held by Prussians since the 1600s, only an actual country for 20 years
>Denmark
Like 20 people total died in the “invasion” it’s more accurate to call it a military occupation.
>Norway
Bound to be invaded by the Allies, held crucial ports for minerals and shipping the North Sea (originally invaded to avoid a blockade similar to WW1)
>Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg
Invasion primarily done to give Germany access to invade France, nothing personal. Similar to Norway, there are a similar threat of Ally invasion.

>France
Declared war of Germany, not the other way around

>Yugoslavia
Originally Axis aligned, but an Ally backed coup put a puppet state in charge and the Axis invaded to quash it.

>Greece
Italy declared war, not Germany

>USSR
Literal communist state that invaded every single one of its neighbors.

>North Africa
Literally just French and British holdings.

>US
Ally aligned providing endless oil and armaments to communists and British and French for free

>>212480390
if national socialism was so great and gonna save the world, why did 80% of nazis go against orders and surrender/collaborate with ZOG?

>>212480569
>actually you see, we are at war with like 50 countries because it's all of their fault and we are blameless.

>>212480569
>all of your neighbors hate you
>don't accept any blame

>>212480569
Germany was warned by France and Britain not to invade Poland. You didn't have to go full retard.

>>212480692
>France declares war on Germany
>Omg how could you invade me?! The horror!

>>212480692
Why didn't France and Britain declare war on the Russians for their invasion of Poland?

>Some poor fucks are arguing in good faith with trannies and commies on a blue board

>>212480335

Pretty much

>peak monarchy/empire era
>nationalism at all time highs
>masculinity at all time highs
>massive mega bloody war for nothing
>monarchies and empires collapse
>women get the right to vote universally and feminize everything
>nationalism collapses, the white race collapses, republicanism and socialism wins

>>212481310
socialism already existed long before WW1. your "peak" era actually created the conditions for it to appear, along with many other non-socialist revolutions in countries not involved in the war.

>>212481467

Why post this? Of course I know it existed. I said it won after and thanks to WW1. People became disillusioned with monarchs and emperors and immediately started cum guzzling socialists. The addition of women as a major, if not the definitive voting bloc, accelerated this, as they are naturally socialist of mind.

>>212481310
>nationalism at all time highs
>war for nothing
the war was precisely caused by nationalism since not all nations had their own state and many empires were artificial and thus unstable to begin with. but you're probably yet another American who confuses ideology with nationalism.

Germany started the war. Austria never would have invaded Serbia without Germany backing such an action and it was known that provoking Russia like that risked a general war.

>>212480000
>I find it fascinating that Austria Hungary was as big a superpower or bigger than Germany, France, and close to UK

Is that why Germany referred to the alliance as being "shackled to a corpse" ?

>>212481507
>I said it won after and thanks to WW1
the 1900-1914 period was already full of revolutions and social unrest because the massive revenues of industrialisation were not evenly distributed and (((bankers))) had already started to rig the game and create artificial poverty.

>>212481672
To be fair, Germany didn't expect Austria to be retarded enough to declare war before they were ready.

>>212481761
>Is that why Germany referred to the alliance as being "shackled to a corpse" ?
K.U.K. bros... we're being mocked again

>>212481834
Germany pressured Austria to attack quickly as they wanted to preempt the Russians. They had wanted to do the same thing 2 years ago during the Balkan wars

>>212481960
Germany gave Austria the so called "Blankoscheck" aka they assured them complete military support. Austria was nowhere near completely prepared but still declared war on Serbia because they knew Germany would back them up.
Even Germany was surprised at their course of action.
Also, to be completely fair neither side during WW1 wanted peace anyway.

>>212481153
You never get a straight answer from them on this. Curious...

>>212482076
They completely expected it because Austria showed them their ultimatum to Serbia weeks before presenting it. The Kaiser was disappointed that it would be presented to the Serbs with such a delay. as far as immediate escalation is concerned, its all on the Germans

>>212482256
As the previous anon says, everyone was looking for a fight (which was the style at the time) but no one was expecting a gigantic super war that destroys nations.