Thread 212505833 - /tv/ [Archived: 597 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:17:39 AM No.212505833
Hugh Grant
Hugh Grant
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Is Hugh Grant charming or charismatic? What's the difference?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:28:52 AM No.212506101
>>212505833 (OP)
I don't know, but you can't fake or learn charisma. You can learn how to be charming.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:31:42 AM No.212506171
>>212505833 (OP)
>He's actually normal sized
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:47:39 AM No.212506584
It's alarming how charming i feel, and so pretty that i hardly can believe I'm real
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:03:34 AM No.212507048
He's charmingly befuddled.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:12:43 AM No.212507303
>>212505833 (OP)
>charming
no
>asshole
yes
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:20:51 AM No.212507533
Charisma is people liking you. Charm is making someone feel as though you like them.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:36:07 AM No.212509290
>>212507533
Shut up retard
Anonymouṡ
7/9/2025, 9:10:30 AM No.212509925
>>212505833 (OP)
They are similar but not identical.

If you are charismatic you have the capacity to inspire interest / enthusiasm / loyalty.
If you are charming you can charm people. You make them feel warmly towards you, even if only superficially / temporarily.

A good leader has to have charisma, not necessarily charm. (Consider R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket. He's charismatic but not charming.)

>>212506101
>can't fake or learn charisma.
The word "charisma" comes from Greek meaning more or less "gift from the gods". So this is exactly how they felt. It's something you've either got or you haven't.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:13:51 AM No.212509995
>>212505833 (OP)
everyone who's charming is charismatic, but not everyone who's charismatic is charming.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:14:46 AM No.212510010
Charm makes people like you, Charisma makes people do what you want.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:19:48 AM No.212510103
Elon_Musk
Elon_Musk
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Musk, Is he?
Charismatic = Yes
Charming = Fuck No
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:24:37 AM No.212510198
>>212510103
Is he charismatic? He carries himself pretty awkwardly in every discussion and interaction I see/hear about.
Charismatic people can usually do or say almost anything without it feeling awkward.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:39:55 AM No.212510528
>>212510103
God no. Steve Jobs was charismatic
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:40:23 AM No.212510540
>>212510198
>>212510528
He has a cult following and inspires people.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:50:50 AM No.212510754
>>212510540
That's just good PR
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:51:28 AM No.212510766
>>212510540
A cult following on social media and an actual cult are 2 completely different things. Inspiring people through text on the internet and inspiring them in person are 2 completely different things.
I'm not gonna take shots at his followers because that's besides the point.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:52:20 AM No.212510789
>>212510766
He had a cult following of devoted nerds before becoming big on twitter
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:53:42 AM No.212510823
>>212510540
Dude come on, really? You still believe in him? 8 years ago I could kind of get it, but he's outed himself like 10 times over at this point.
At least Trump is actually funny when he does fucked up shit.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:55:07 AM No.212510858
>>212510789
Almost none of those nerds were people who actually interracted with him, they just followed his career through media reports. Again that's not charisma.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:02:33 AM No.212511030
>>212510858
People also didn't interact with Hitler either
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:03:26 AM No.212511042
>>212507533
Wow, so true, upvote
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:05:05 AM No.212511079
>>212511030
Yes they did, he had tons of rallies and went to political conventions and shit like that, same as any major politician.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:06:20 AM No.212511097
>>212511079
So does Musk
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:08:21 AM No.212511128
Adam Driver has low charisma but is charming
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:08:34 AM No.212511129
>>212511128
This
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:10:26 AM No.212511172
>>212511097
Now that he already has a following, yes he does, and he looks awkward as shit in all of them. What you just did was an extremely jewish argument tactic by the way.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:10:52 AM No.212511182
High charisma but not charming
Tom cruise
Jeremy clarkson
Gordon ramsay
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:12:12 AM No.212511212
>>212511172
You can't gain a following without charisma
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:15:23 AM No.212511280
>>212511212
You 100% can. Especially if you're rich and well connected. Tons of social media people have no irl charisma. Fucking Hillary Clinton has a following.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:15:46 AM No.212511286
1748459554930691
1748459554930691
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>>212511212
Yes you can.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:17:00 AM No.212511313
>>212511280
Hillary Clinton doesn't have a cult following. In fact she lost the election to Trump. No one is a die hard Hillary supporter post 2016 Election where she's one of two choices.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:19:53 AM No.212511374
>>212511286
He is persuasive
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:20:42 AM No.212511387
>>212511313
Cult following =/= having the support of the majority of voters.
Hillary definitely had and continues to have a decent amount of followers after the election, they're just not large enough for her to ever win a national election that requires 10s of millions of votes.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:22:13 AM No.212511416
I had someone try to argue with me that Dr Dre is more charismatic than Eazy-E because he is a better businessman.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:24:31 AM No.212511451
>>212511387
So you voted for Hillary?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:26:21 AM No.212511483
>>212511451
You just keep getting more jewish with these argument tactics.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:29:07 AM No.212511541
>>212511416
It's crazy how Eazy was a threatening looking dude despite being 5 feet 2
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:37:52 AM No.212511735
>>212511483
Did you?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:45:58 AM No.212511916
>>212511735
No, and I'm done responding to you.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:36:03 AM No.212512703
>>212505833 (OP)
>Genealogist Anthony Adolph has described Grant's family history as "a colourful Anglo-Scottish tapestry of warriors, empire-builders, and aristocracy

he was just a nepo baby
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:24:58 PM No.212513457
>>212505833 (OP)
I used to Hugh Grant max back in college and girls loved it.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:48:49 PM No.212513825
>>212507533
ok I do the 2nd one. I pretend to like everyone.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 1:29:07 PM No.212514393
>>212509925
> It's something you've either got or you haven't.
I've heard the same about grace.