Just got out of Supes.
Ask away if you want.

*raises hand*
was it kino?

>>212506206 (OP)
Was it actually wokeslop

>>212506206 (OP)
How much worse then man of steel was it?

>>212506229
I liked it. Not great but good.
>>212506229
No. The word immigrant isn't said once.
The "Israel" allusions are weak.
Luthor is controlling Boravia, so unless retards think Israel is controlled by a tech mogul, there isn't much similarity.

>>212506206 (OP)
I just saw it too. What'd you think Anon? I really liked it.

>>212506206 (OP)
Does supes get his ass kicked a lot?

>>212506260
It was better.
But shit, Superman Returns is better than MoS.
MoS had the better Lois though.
This Lois is lame.
>>212506285
I liked it too. Very heartfelt and fun. Clearly meant for kids. No dick joke, I don't know where tv got that from.
>>212506286
Ehh. A bit. But he kicks his fair share of ass too. Just wait for the third act.

>>212506286
He gets his ass kicked twice by the Borovia guy who is revealed to be a clone of him and is being coached by Luthor on what moves to use.

>>212506321
Yeah. Summed up well.
He calls Krypto for help twice, but for the most part it's all him.

Soundtrack any good?

>>212506372
Yes. Some punk rock in it, some oldies, and the instrumental stuff is good. Doesn't use the Reeve theme that often.

>>212506277
Lex is the president of Bavaria?

>>212506396
No he's just using the guy.
Essentially Lex wants control of Borovia to start a war, therefore getting Supes involved, and getting the government go-ahead to neutralize Superman.
The Donner Luthor wanted Superman to die so he could get land.
Gunn's Luthor wants land so he can kill Superman.

>>212506396
he's working with the President. In exchange for getting Superman out of his hair the President is going to give half the country he invades to Luthor to create some techno utopia with him as King, but Luthor reveals that was just a bonus and he mostly just wanted to contrive a reason to kill Superman.

Do we get to see Isabela Merced in the midriff outfit?

>>212506454
no

>>212506454
No. She shows her arms and that's the most skin.
Only Cat Grant is sexy. Major cleavage.

>>212506206 (OP)
As gay as it is that this guy said he’s not going to kill himself because this movie gave him hope, in 2000 I was in a suicide ward and me and this other teen promised not to kill ourselves because we had to watch the next episode of The Tom Green Show together.

>>212506321
So the rumors about Henry Cavil playing Ultraman were false?

>>212506587
Yes. Ultraman is a clone so he's just played by Corenswet. That was always an obviously false rumor though.

>>212506460
Wasted opportunity.

>>212506587
Yeah. It's Corenswet with shaggy hair.
Not Bizarro, but just a clone who's mentally retarded.

>>212506600
Indeed.

how much screen time for green lantern and metamorpho? Also any Batman? I heard something from the soundtrack sounding very 2022 Batman

>>212507113
>Green Lantern
he's in like 3 scenes.
>Metamorpho
Maybe like 5-10 minutes? He's in the prison scene with Superman and when they escape, and then comes back later for a small scene to tie up his story. But neither of them are in it that much. Mr. Terrific is the most prominent non Superman superhero in the movie.
>Batman
No references whatsoever aside from one freeway sign that says "X miles to Gotham"

>>212506206 (OP)
Do we see Jor El in this movie? Does he look hot? How's the kryptonian mother? Are they evil?

>>212507186
>Jor-El
his hologram for 20 seconds
>is he hot?
Played by Bradley Cooper, you decide
>Kryptonian Mother
didn't recognize her actress, but same as Jor-El
>Are they evil?
Presumably. Their message is uncorrupted and it says they sent Superman to conquer the Earth and BREED as many human women as he can. It's possible Luthor fabricated it but the movie seems to lean fairly heavily on the idea that he didn't and goes moreso with the message that "The Kents are his real parents".

>>212506550
I didn't kill myself for a long time just because I wanted to see Avatar 2. Honestly when you are suicidal giving yourself anything to look forward to in life is a plus. Picrel worded it in a very gay way though.

>>212507242
What does Jor El wear? Kryptonian armor like Snyder's? Any references to other DC characters? Do we see white martians?

>>212507242
>they sent Superman to conquer the Earth
lame, stick of this shit.

>>212507286
Its white fabric like a robe. Reference to Myxyzptlk. We see a white Martian, he drives Lex around in the pocket dimension.

>>212507286
Uhh honestly I forget since he's in the movie so little it's just a brief hologram, basically a cameo and it focuses on his face. I think he had like a circlet thing?

>white martians
Nope
>Other DC chararcters?
Aside from the ones in the trailer. i.e Engineer, Mr. Terrific, Metamorpho, Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Rick Flagg Sr.

Peacemaker has a brief cameo on an interview show, and Supergirl shows up at the end to pick up Krypto and tease her movie. You can also maybe say that the clone of Superman is potentially Bizarro, because he is a dumb clone of Superman, but he doesn't speak and is sucked into the pocket dimension prison at the end, so he could come back as more comic accurate Bizarro.

>>212507314
>>212507286
oh yeah Lex did have a weird white martian sort of dude chauffeuring him but I'm not sure if that was supposed to be a white martian or just some ugly creature he had.

>>212507186
We do. He looks like Bradley Cooper. The mom is kinda bug eyed. Not hot. Not much focus on Krypton.
They're not evil, but they want Clark to fuck women and reform the species. They want him to be good on Earth, but rule with an iron fist.
>>212507113
Lantern is fun. Basically Star-Lord. Metamorpho is fine. They're not in it very long.
No Batman.

>>212507388
Could be either.

>>212506550
I have a similar story with picrel of all things.
A couple days before I went to watch it I got into a horrific, near-fatal car accident where it was a complete miracle I was left unscathed. On top of the fact that I had been hiding my plan to join the French Foreign Legion after graduating college from my family; I was really just crippled by stress and disassociation for those couple of days. Then I watched picrel, which was a quality anime kino about overcoming trauma and becoming an independent, well-adjusted adult; and it gave me the courage to both not be bitchmade by that accident and move on as well as finally give me the courage to tell my family about my plans.

>>212507569
Did you join the Legion?

>>212507154
bummer, but I’ll take whatever I can get for GL
I was hyped for extra scenes in JL movie with the flashback greenlatern

>>212507569
Don't know you, but I'm proud of you.
Good job.

>>212507653
No

>>212507653
>Did you join
I made a serious attempt after over a year of physical training last summer, and after 2.5 weeks there they decided I was not Legion material and gave me the boot :(
I was in a lengthy thread on /int/ last year talking all about my time there if you'd like to see. If I were to sum it up, it was like Spirited Away mixed with fFMJ. It was the best experience of my life so far and my high point where I felt the happiest and best-adjusted.

>>212507697
He has a great moment saving a kid and showing off. He makes fun objects with his ring. It's good for what we get.

>>212507697
for what it's worth, Guy Gardner was great in the few scenes he did appear in, two of which are action scenes.

>>212506206 (OP)
Is Hawkgirl queer?

>>212507740
>Superman's not here kid, but you got the upgrade
I kek'd. based

>>212507740
sweet, I figured as much. Not the least bit excited for Mr terrific.
but fuck now im thinking about justice league, hated that movie, but that small green lantern scene was perfect

>>212507775
no, she has like 5 lines in the movie, most of which are just her telling Guy that the Justice Gang is a dumb name. And she screeches in combat like a hawk, which admittedly did sound pretty cool despite how silly it sounds. oh, she also kills some dude who thinks she won't kill him because she's a hero

>>212507242
>Their message is uncorrupted and it says they sent Superman to conquer the Earth and BREED as many human women as he can
So Luthor is the good guy

>>212507750
great to hear, im seeing it Friday with my gf and trying to convince her why i love green lantern so much

>>212507832
no because Superman himself isn't evil and Lex just wants to contrive a war to kill him.

Is that giant lazer ball from the poster at the end Braniac?

>>212506206 (OP)
Are the fight scenes entertaining at least?

>>212506206 (OP)
I heard some reviews say they weren’t a fan of how the Kents were portrayed. What’s up with that?

>>212507876
yes. best part of the movie. if you're going for action you probably won't be bored.

>>212507775
Nope.
>>212507781
Yeah that was a great bit.
>>212507832
Part of why I liked the movie was how believable Lex's plan was, minus the obviously sci-fi elements.
Public manipulation, slander, using all his wealth to coerce the public.
He genuinely just hates Superman for being better than him.
Not because he's a god, or anything.
He just makes Lex look weak and that drives him mad.

>>212507877
They're portrayed more as simple hillbilly boomers that you'd find in a Walmart, and not the stoic wise Hollywood farmer portrayal you'd expect.

>>212507877
It's just very limited. You don't get to know them.
Pa has a great scene with Clark, but other than that, you see their worth through Superman's love for them.
Not anything outside of his perspective.

>>212506206 (OP)
Is the CGI better than they made it look in the trailer?

Do they explain why the S shield is different than the other ones?

>>212507955
nope, it's just his symbol in this.

>>212507955
No. It just is.
>>212507949
I found it better. But I'm not a big stickler for effects, so that may be something you take more note of.

>>212507936
Seeth harder jeet

>>212507936
>simple hillbilly boomers that you'd find in a Walmart
But are they portrayed in a positive or negative light?

>>212507904
him screaming the fighting moves to Ultraman to beat the shit out of Superman was pretty cool.

>>212506206 (OP)
How big is his dick??

How many arab kids did he kill?

>>212507989
how am I seething? I liked their portrayal. Felt more real and they seemed nice.
>>212507999
Yeah they're portrayed in a good light. they're nice hillbilly types. Simple, but good natured and less full of salt of the Earth wisdom and come off more as that nice hillbilly down the street who might help you with your car or something but would also have no idea how to use a smart phone.

>>212507949
what ps3 game is this?

>>212507877
Yes, we need a scene of Pa telling Clark he should’ve let a bus full of kids drawn. Would’ve done down well with where going on in Texas

>>212506206 (OP)
Jeremy said Gunn used the wrong clips to promote this movie. Do you agree with that sentiment?

>>212508000
Totally. And Superman getting the upper hand by sending Krypto to knock out the drones was a great touch.
>>212508053
Lol.

>>212508077
Nah. Most of it is from the first act, but the third was so good I wouldn't want to spoil it if I was Gunn.

I never seen a Superman film. Not very famliar with DC stuff in general. Im concerned with how crowded this film is. And the assumption you are well versed in superman lore already.

>>212508053
KEK

>>212506206 (OP)
does lois show feet?

>>212508136
Personally I think the only thing you really need to know about Superman lore is the basic shit everyone knows.
>He disguises himself as Clark Kent with glasses
>He's sent from Krypton as a baby, raised by Kents who are farmers in Kansas
And that's more or less explained anyway.

>>212507186
>>212507242
>>212507392
Lara is Angela Sarafyan.

>>212508136
For a non comic fan, it would be difficult to understand characters outside of Supes, Lois, and Lex.
A solid amount of focus is on Mr. Terrific and Jimmy Olsen. A less amount is on other minor superheroes.
Would you enjoy it?
I think you'll like the Superman vs Lex moments. Maybe even the Clark and Lois moments.
And I hate to say this because I liked the movie, but it feels like one made for comic fans. Not laymen.

>>212507809
>she also kills some dude who thinks she won't kill him because she's a hero
Is there some big scene where Superman lectures the other heroes about how killing is wrong?

>>212506206 (OP)
does the dog(Krypto) dance?

>>212508197
We don’t need to see an origin for Superman, Batman, Spider Man ever again. I wasn’t even interested in this move until Gunn said it wouldn’t be an origin. So bored of origins. Just get on with it already

>>212508257
>We don’t need to see an origin for Superman, Batman, Spider Man ever again.
At some point in the future, we will. By "we" I mean future newfag audiences, people who did not see capeshit movies in their childhood. People who are starting off as a blank slate.

>>212508245
No. The Kaiju you see in the trailers Superman does try to avoid killing, and spends most of that fight flying around saving random people while the Justice Gang kill it. Superman says he wanted to try to lure it away to study it or euthanize it less painfully if they had to, to which GL calls him a wuss and that's basically the end of it.

The evil dictator guy of the foreign country is confident Hawkgirl won't kill him because she's like Superman, to which she replies
>I'm not Superman
and then drops him to his death.

>>212508245
No. He wants to save the Kaiju's life and Guy Gardner calls him a wuss.
It isn't a big theme.
>>212508255
Yes. Here's footage.

>>212506206 (OP)
Was there any reference to heroes outside of the ones in the movie?

>>212507988
Is the weird wide lens shit ever off-putting? The movie is just so damn ugly looking to me, I can’t imagine it being watchable. It looks like The Flash to me.

>>212507874
Hinted as Mister Mxyzptlk, just described as an inter-dimensional imp and he's just fighting the Justice Gang in the background while Supes and Lois talk. It's never given any real focus and the most you see is a giant bat from Guy hitting the bubble, and the popped bubble pushing out colored air.

>>212506206 (OP)
Are there sufficient diversity and inclusiveness?

I want to feel represented, and want nothing to do with bigotry

>>212508330
Peacemaker has a brief cameo as a joke on a talk-show talking about how Superman sucks, and Supergirl shows up at the end to pick up Krypto and tease her movie.

>>212508338
Flash looks much worse.
I stopped noticing the wide angle after a while, to be honest.
The long foot bit is still there.
But it didn't look like Flash to me.

>>212506605
>Not Bizarro, but just a clone who's mentally retarded.
I never understand why movies do this.
Why have a Bizarro-like character in a Bizarro-like role, but NOT make it Bizarro?
I don't think it'd necessarily make the movie better or worse, it's just baffling to me, like if instead of Jimmy they had a Jimmy-like character that served the exact same role Jimmy could.

>>212508296
No you don’t. Nobody honestly gives a shit about origins. “He shoots webs and fights crime, cool” is all you need.

>>212508385
I get ya. I feel kind of the same. But he gets sucked into a black hole so I think he's dead for real. No coming back.

>>212508385
I mean he could basically be Bizarro. He has the same backstory as Bizarro, dumb clone of Superman that Lex made. But he doesn't talk or have reverse powers. They could very well just bring him back and say he's Bizarro.

>>212507242
>Their message is uncorrupted and it says they sent Superman to conquer the Earth and BREED as many human women as he can.
Gunn should thank his lucky stars people are letting him get away with so many changes. I can see people crucifying Snyder for corrupting and perverting Jor-El’s ideals.

>>212508419
nobody cares about Jor-El. it's like caring about Peter Parkers parents. People were assmad at Snyder for fucking with the Kents, who everyone sees as his real parents like Uncle Ben and Aunt May is to Spider-Man.

>>212508408
He's a clone and seemingly "died" so maybe the inevitable sequel has a newer version of the clone that is more traditionally Bizarro.

>>212508408
So so weird he isn’t Bizarro because that is the most Gunn type villain you’d think he would’ve jumped out it

>>212508406
That's retarded. At one point we all needed to see the origin story for Spider-Man, because we never knew it. There will be people like that in the future too, who will not see the movies we saw

>>212508443
I wasn't sure if he was supposed to be dead dead or just trapped in the prison world now. I'm sure they could just say he survived and got out and now he degenerated so much he's like comics Bizarro if they really wanted to.

>>212508439
Yeah pretty much.
Pa Kent telling Clark to maybe let kids drown was too much.
I'm a shut in comic retard, but I didn't mind the Jor-El change.
It made Superman's arc more important.
Who does he want to follow?
His real folks or his human folks.
>>212508461
It has a brief text recap in the beginning.

>>212508181
answer my FUCKING question

>>212508489
OP here. I'm off to bed.
There's another anon also answering questions, and he's doing just as good, possibly even better, than me.
He's got you covered.
Thanks, and I hope I was of assistance.
I'd recommend this one. It isn't perfect, but it's good.

>>212508536
no

>>212508385
The clone has to earn being bizarre.

Is there any Super Dickery?

>>212508406
>>212508461
The issue with origins is how they drag them out a lot to the point that it almost separates into two movies. Origins are fine when done correctly and well integrated into the overall movie. Batman 89 is a good example of this, it covered his orgin during the movie, but didnt spend the first hour+ doing so.

>>212508546
Have a super good rest Anon.

is the final fight any good?

>>212508571
Thanks.

>>212508487
The opened up gap in the city was the pocket dimension, the black hole not-Bizarro fell into was just an actual black hole. So if not-Bizarro survived, they have an excuse to send him anywhere.

>>212508566
no he's a complete boyscout in this, even saving squirrels.

>>212508552

>>212506206 (OP)
Does Rachel show her underpants?

>>212508581
Pretty good yeah. Last act honestly is the best part of the movie. It's more or less Superman vs the clone being piloted by Luthor through voice comms like a fighting game character

>>212506206 (OP)

Does capitalist billionaire genius mastermind Lex Luthor really kill a pajeet?

here's your supergrill bro

>>212508637
yes, it's the same guy that helps Superman up in the trailer. Lex plays Russian roulette with him in front of Superman and kills him on the 2nd shot.

>>212508637
does he steal 40 cakes?

>>212508658
would

>>212508658
she cute

>>212508658
Finally, a blonde Supergirl again

>>212508569
This is true. I thinks origins are necessary when rebooting most superhero characters but you don't need to show all of it over and over. I liked how The Batman 2022 did it with integrating the death of Bruce's parents into the storyline that way you still get the origin but also don't need to see them get shot in the alley for the 10th time.

>>212508659

Wierd? In real life, greedy American billionaires are using pajeets and replacing American workers with them.

>>212508636

So it's like that Superman: the Animated Series episode where that Toy Master guy is controlling a human sized fighting robot and using it against Superman? Or is it M. Bison using an arcade joy pad controer and actually fighting Superman thwt way?

What do Tekken and Street Fighter gamers think about it?

>>212508863
Basically the Superman clone is super dumb, and Lex has devised a bunch of preprogrammed moves for him to use that he's gotten from studying Superman's fighting style and how to counter it. So Superman will go in for a bunch and Lex or one of his workers will shout "7B" over the comm, and 7B on the monitor will show a preprogrammed move of the Superclone dodging the punch and grabbing his arm or something like that. Final fight has Luthor shouting "4-A" aggressively a bunch of times, which is the code for Superclone to punch Superman in the face.

>>212508658
Would’ve been better if it was this costume

>>212508658
>White Zoomette with nice tits
Solid.

>>212508910

So like how guys in prison play chess when they are in different prison cells? Okay.

>>212509160
Sort of, yeah.

Kek. Luthor is just like me. Nerd needs to fuck off to an island in the middle of nowhere with limited or no internet at all so that he won't have to hear anything about Superman or deal with any of Superman's fans.. Luthor needs his own fortress of solitude which would do him some good. I hear the Philippines has some nice white sands at their beaches.

>>212509247
>Nerd needs to fuck off to an island in the middle of nowhere with limited or no internet at all so that he won't have to hear anything about Superman or deal with any of Superman's fans.
What I hope from hearing this is that Lex Luthor goes the Syndrome route and starts covertly killing Justice Gang members as a set-up for the next kino where they introduce Zod.

what's with all the faggots shilling this shit. 90% of the shit being said about this is foids lusting over kike penises

>>212509336
they've done Zod 3 times now, 4 if you count BvS. I think they'll give him a fucking rest for a bit

>>212509346
>NOOOOO you can’t just discuss a movie that came out
have sex

>>212509348
>I think they'll give him a fucking rest for a bit
But he's one of the only Superman bad guys that's actually cool :(

>>212509402
Brainiac is pretty cool, no clue why they keep avoiding him for the movies. Hopefully he's the next villain in line for the sequel.

>>212509362
you can't because i'm not interested in it

>>212509441
Brainiac is really a DC universe villain, not just a Superman villain, when he's treated right. Injustice 2 had the right idea

>>212509441
>Hopefully he's the next villain in line for the sequel.
Having him team up with Luthor to kill the Justice Gang and eventually Superman while also quietly subverting and backstabbing each other would actually be an interesting premise and sort of fit into the "Dark Triad v. Nice Guy" angle of Lex vs. Superman.

>>212508053
… Fuck

>>212508035
>Simple, but good natured and less full of salt of the Earth wisdom and come off more as that nice hillbilly down the street who might help you with your car or something but would also have no idea how to use a smart phone.
Interesting angle definitely more in touch with the times. Far better than Costner where they make him unredeemably evil for no reason, though I will say I do prefer the angle of the humble old-stock Whites that the Kents were depicted as in the 70s Superman.
>>212508053
Quite comedic, dare I say.

>>212507832
Always have been

>>212509336
>>212509348

Zod again? What about that pryokinetic woman from the animated series who complained about chunky peanut butter? Or how about that radio jockey woman who was pretty hot before she got turned into electric joker?

Odd, thought she was hot before gaining her powers. Must have been the voice or the personality then. Or the glasses and sort of punk style outfit.

Anyway. How about Brainiac(animated series version) or that criminal convict guy who got turned into a robot and has a heart of kryptonite?

>>212506277
>The "Israel" allusions are weak.
That's because it is Ukraine allusion. Boravia is Russia.

>>212506206 (OP)
Grace said Jimmy is disgusting and toxic towards women. How so? She also mentioned that the movie has some sexist undertones.

>>212509569
Braniac is long overdue. Metallo could work but desu I find Kryptonite kind of boring now.

>>212509569
>Zod again
Normies want Zod. Oldfags want Zod back because Superman II was the last actual kino Superman movie, and Snyderfags like him back for obvious reasons. We're going to get another Zod movie whether we like it or not, frankly.

>>212506206 (OP)
How is Luthor? In the trailers he comes off as more of a caricature than a character yelling generic phrases.

>>212509641
>Grace
Oh god fuck that bitch. Please stop giving her views

>>212509691
Pretty good. One of the highlights of the movie imo. Somewhere inbetween Smallville Luthor and Hackman Luthor. Trailers honestly are really weird, because they splice together his lines from different parts of the movie out of context to try to create a monologue.

Like him saying

>The most powerful man in the world..

Is actually him talking about Ultraman, trying to sell his new security force to the DoD in a board meeting.

>>212509641
idk. There's this running gag where Luthor's girlfriend Eve is obsessed with Jimmy, while Jimmy really isn't all that into her and he has to begrudgingly text her to get information out of her so I assume she's talking about that.

Zod can take a break. Although Snyder was right that finding the next proper villain is difficult and things should probably be taken more extraterrestrial because he’s just too powerful of a character. The two that come to mind are Brainiac and Metallo. But even with this version of Superman I don’t think characters like Toy Man and Weather Wizard can be done without blatantly nerfing Superman or making him stupid.

>>212508658
How did she get the monke nickname?

>>212507242
I hate this modern post crisis insistence of modern Superman having to choose between earth and krypton especially with these contrived situations to make out like krypton was a shithole or his parents evil.

Are there really jokes about Superman having a small penis?

>>212509835
Weather Wizard is a Flash villain anyway.

>>212510220
No. some anon completely made that up for (You)s

>>212506206 (OP)
How does it compare to Man of Steel?

>>212510245
I don't believe anon would do that

>>212510284
A million times better but I never cared that much for MoS and would rate it like 5-6/10 so take that for what you will.

>>212506206 (OP)
Is there a post credit scene where Moner bends over and spreads her ass cheeks?

>>212506206 (OP)
Is it zoomer pilled?

>>212510226
Yeah I think I got my rogues gallery mixed up

I’m interested in seeing a whimsical Superman but I’m also really tired of Gunn’s formula and needless appearances like Hawkgirl that are there just to argue with other characters for the sake of comedy, it’s a turn off for me.

>>212510220
>Are there really jokes about Superman having a small penis?
If this is the case, that's a dumb angle. Hell just glance at the Superman Smashes The Klan threads on /co/ (arguably some of the only quality humor threads on that queer-infested shithole devoid of taste) if you want and you can see the endless hilarity produced by the idea of Superman having a massive, steel-hard cock and comically insatiable sex drive once in the mood.
>>212509761
>There's this running gag where Luthor's girlfriend Eve is obsessed with Jimmy, while Jimmy really isn't all that into her
Kinda based.
Also, is Lex's girlfriend funny? Critics seem to be glazing her as a high point in the film and I can't really trust their taste in humor when it comes to kino.
Also, I just found out that picrel is Jimmy and now I'm more interested in watching the kino given they didn't make him Black like in that shitty cartoon /co/ circlejerks.

I hope they get a good director for batman

>>212508566
Man I miss Super Dickory

>>212510375
>Also, is Lex's girlfriend funny?
She's not in it that much but yeah. Most of her humor is her taking selfies while crazy stuff happens in the background or her dynamic with Jimmy, where she's super into him and he's awkwardly not that into her. There's a decently funny gag where she decides to betray Lex and send a bunch of "info she has on Luthor" to Jimmy. She manages to hit send right before Luthor finds her and the call drops, and when Jimmy opens the text it appears it's just a bunch of instagram tier selfies of herself (Lois later realizes that in the background of the shots there's Luthor's plans in the background).

There's no Superman dick jokes that's completely fabricated.

Is there any reference to Zod/his house, other alien races, 4th world, Central/Star/Gotham/Jump/Coast City/Bludhaven and anything about Brainiac?

>>212510680
>Zod
no
>other alien races
GL references the Guardians of Oa. I think that's about it though aside from Kryptonians of course. I'd expect more aliens to be in the Supergirl movie desu.
>4th world
nope
>Gotham
A single traffic sign in the background that says Gotham Highway
>Jump,Coast,Bludhaven
Not that I noticed
>Braniac
Nope.

>>212510725
Does Superman really wear hypno glasses or is it a joke?

>>212510852
He really does, though you don't actually see it. It's one line from Guy Gardner where he says "you know he wears hypno glasses and is really Clark Kent" to Lois Lane. He's only Clark Kent for like 2 scenes of the movie desu.

>>212510317
No. It's very millennial coded.

>>212507308
To be fair, that is more in line with Kryptonian logic than yeeting the fetus before it deletus. Kryptonians were pretty universally fascist dickheads (literally fascists not reddit fascists). His cousin was an anomaly but that could easily be viewed as white women lusting after foreign dick being a universal constant.

The fight scenes are better than MoS? What about the destruction or collateral damage?

>>212506315
>MoS had the better Lois though.
>This Lois is lame.

Ahahahahahaha.

>>212511046
>His cousin was an anomaly but that could easily be viewed as white women lusting after foreign dick being a universal constant.
Quite literally in MAWS

>>212511046
They were fascist millennia ago in Byrne's reboot and most Superman fans hated that change.

>>212511072
>fight scenes better than MoS
I personally thought so, yes. The flying is a lot of fun, and Superman is a bit more creative in beating his clone than punching him through a million buildings and then snapping his neck.
>destruction or collateral damage
They clearly took this complaint to heart because Superman spends a lot of time saving people. That entire Kaiju fight he spends saving people(including a squirrel) while the Justice Gang kill it, and he stops it from destroying buildings when it falls over. There's some destruction when Luthor splits the city in half with his black hole science nonsense to lure in Superman, but Superman shows up to lift a building to allow a woman evacuating to safely drive off as seen in the trailer, and then stops Luthor and is helping to the put the city back together in the post credits.

russian dubbed pajeet camrip with ads, where is it?

>>212511116
>I personally thought so, yes.
Is it the same as the trailers? Because the trailers made it seem awful and janky.

>>212511110
99 times out of 100 Kryptonians view non-Kryptonians as inferior beings and that's before they even find out they have powers.

>>212511153
That's only Byrne's reboot.
Before that wasn't the case, and even afterwards when people like Loeb and Johns retconed his stuffs.

>..he is man of steel, not a man of conversation, ya knoow

>>212511046
Why?
>Desperate scientists
>Last hope
That’s it. The social dynamics of Krypton are irrelevant to the characters.

>>212511152
Not really, no. The trailers don't show much of the 3rd act at all which is where most of the Superman fights take place. There's a gimmick where the Ultraman character is more or less being voice coached by Lex Luthor, who has studied all of Superman's moves and how to counter them which I thought was cool.

How can I exponentially increase my soi levels to sit throuh a superhero movie?

>>212511201
But visually, how does it look? Because pretty much all the CGI in the trailer looked weird. Does IMAX make it look better?

>>212508439
>it's like caring about Peter Parkers parents
kek, be prepared to see this being said a million times by every shill

>>212511223
I'm not a huge stickler for CGI so I thought it looked fine, your mileage may vary though. I certainly don't think it was as bad as the Flash, or the final fight in Black Panther which even somehow fell below my very low bar for VFX.

>>212511223
Yeah cause wtf is this shit?

>>212511237
I've already seen 20 people compare this to the Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies or using the phrase "it is like comic book being brought to life" or some variation of it.

>>212511221
Beer. Play vidya

>that fucking alien, without red trunks!

>>212511249
>or the final fight in Black Panther which even somehow fell below my very low bar for VFX.
Yeah, that was... rough. Same with the new Spider-Man movies.

>>212508051
>ps3
>game

>>212511271
that's more or less an accurate description of it desu. It's like comparing The Batman to Se7en. Not really any easier way to describe it.

>>212511177
Fuck outta here.
Blackest Night event had a planet of colonial kryptonians that were without their powers and as soon as the GL corps made the sun yellow (because....comics) they went straight up "We don't like yet kind around here" to the very people who gave them powers and were starting to go full 1488 in hours.

In All Star Superman some Kryptonians arrived on Earth while Clark was out and started taking over because humans were "inferior life forms".

They are consistently fascist dickheads.

>>212511291
I'll say it's probably not winning any awards for CGI it's no Avatar, so if you're really scrutinizing on that you may not like it, but personally I thought it was fine.

>>212511179
It's more funny to me that that's actually Snyder and Gunn playing those roles.
It let me know Gunn can take people ripping on him, which is a plus.

>>212507272
>Avatar 2
Af all shit movies?

>>212511323
Those post-Final Crisis event comics fucking sucked, and All-Star Superman is out of continuity.

The kryptonians aren't supposed to be sterile and cold clones, nor evil conquerors. They're perfect beings, or better future selves.

>>212508419
I still think that If Snyder didn't make Jonathan's death that way and show more the wanderer days as "human" Clark Kent, studying, learning, talking with other people It could turn out better to show Superman humanity. But no he get to rush when he found out the ship or when Zod arrive in the solar system etc. I don't even have a problem with him killing Zod.

The same problem Snyder had with BvS trying to rush everything and even cut 30 minutes of the movie

>>212511365
James Cameron was filming the Titanic wreckage and looked at the ocean around him. "The water is all over the place. It stretches on forever. It wrecks everything despite not having any points. That's the way of water. HANG ON A MINUTE!"

>>212511476
>The same problem Snyder had with BvS trying to rush everything and even cut 30 minutes of the movie
In his defense the ultimate edition was the intended theatrical cut before execs made him cut it down so they could fit in more showtimes for the Avatar dethroner

>>212511476
>The same problem Snyder had with BvS trying to rush everything and even cut 30 minutes of the movie
Snyder doesn't cut his own movies for theatrical releases, which i find really dumb. He leaves that on the studio's hands.
That's why he got on the contract that he's allowed a director's cut for the DVD releases where he has complete control.

>>212511476
Superman fans didn't have a problem with him killing Zod. Superman prefers not to kill and will not take that option if he feels there is another way. If he doesn't see another way, he will absolutely kill a bitch and that isn't some kind of new line he crossed in comics.

>>212511564
They absolutely had, but most Superman fanboys never read the comics.

>>212511580
Even the cartoon version of Superman in Justice League was straight going to murder Darkseid. As in, "I'm gonna keep hitting you until only smears of you remain." and the only reason he didn't was because Batman boom tubed him out. EVEN then he basically called Batman a dipshit for stopping him.

>>212508739
>rigins are necessary when rebooting most superhero characters
Unless you are making soemthing different it isn't even true, at least most of the times

>>212511649
I know, but there are two types of Superman fans.
Those that really, REALLY know their stuff. Like Legion of Super-Heroes type stuff. And those that just know about the character through osmosis and think they're an expert. The latter are way louder.

To me the only media that really shows the "true" Clark Kent is Smallville, I hate how after a while Clark become more Kal-El because he's 99% working as Superman and maybe we get glimpse when he's back in the Kent farm

>>212508385
It's the old retarded DC movie / TV rivalry.

They had Bizarro on Superman and Lois, so they probably decided they couldn't use him in the movie.

It's like how characters from Arrow's suicide squad disappeared because they couldn't appear at the same time as the movie suicide squad.

>>212509685
I really hope not.
And I don't want snyderfaggots screaming that the new universe is copying their flops

>>212511649
>>212511580
Honestly he's not consistent with it even in the comics it depends on the writer, as you can expect from any character as old as him. Sometimes he'll kill reluctantly, like Byrne had him kill an alternate universe Zodd, but other times he'll be absolutely NEVER KILL EVER boyscout even to insane alien invaders, like how Waid writes him. Personally I don't mind him killing Zod, though I do thing MoS was way too dour overall and ending it with a brutal neck snap contributed to that.

>>212511709
To be fair, if I'm watching a Superman movie, I don't give a shit about Clark because they are not going to give that subject matter the attention and time it deserves to make a good film. I just want them to get Superman right at least.
Getting Clark right is some epic story telling that most aren't gonna have the patience for anyway.

Would be nice if we got big screen multi-film epic Kingdom Come adaptation, just keep Gunn the fuck away from it.

Hilariously, I do think Snyder would have been a good choice for such a film because the man does spectecal really well.

>>212511793
>I don't want snyderfaggots screaming that the new universe is copying their flops
Snyderjeets are retarded Jeets, they'll whine and bitch about everything Snyder and not even in threads about movies that aren't capeshit. Nobody takes them seriously even if Marvelfags are equally annoying and dumb.
Gunn would just be following the natural progression of the old Superman movies, which is what normalfags and oldfags want anyway (especially if WB wants to juice up BO numbers and hype for the sequel).

>>212511485
You made me laugh.
Here's your well deserved (you)

>>212511913
>>212511793
You can't escape.

It’s an absolute tragedy that a 50 year old movie has a stranglehold on a character that’s otherwise relatively fluid and unremarkable.

>>212511948
>capeshit is derivative mass-produced garbage for retards and Indians
News at 11.

>>212511580
No Snyder fan has ever read a Superman comic. You only learn te existence of specific out of context panels from some eceleb to use them in your stupid arguments

>>212511948
Bottom looks better, more dynamic and colorful and interesting.

>>212507272
FWIW you chose wisely. Looking forward to Avatar 3 now?

>>212511697
And then there are Snyderfags, who are not fans, and think Superman kills (or batman, or wonder woman)

>>212511971
In all fairness, that 50 year old movie is a pioneering work of megakino and a timeless classic.
Though I would kill for a high-budget Red Son movie

>>212511948
honestly having seen the movie it's even weirder comparing them. like the arrest scene. Superman just turns himself in to try to find out where Luthor took his dog, not for any noble sacrifice reason like Snyder had him do.

>>212511999
>>212511978
Kek. You guys are so weird.

>>212511948
>Snyder invented people walking in a corridor
kek

>>212511906
Snyder still wants to do a complete Dark Knight Returns adaptation

>>212511980
Totally agree.

>>212512029
didn't he already basically do that in BvS

>>212512055
He took aspects from it but he still wants to do a strict adaptation like 300

>>212511913
wtf? bvs and man of steel are great and i'm not a pajeet, rebel moon was pure trash, that zombie flick was lame

>>212509110
>nice tits
Source for the claim

>>212512094
>bvs and man of steel are great
BVS was a movie so bad I credit it with birthing the critic in me and giving me a sense of taste when I was a young teenager. Granted I haven't watched it since 2016 but given I remember it vividly well compared to other stuff I watched at that time I'd have a hard time imagining it somehow aged well even with the ultimeme edition; especially when there was shit on at that time like Daredevil and more recent stuff like The Penguin that did what it attempted to do far, far better and with a miniscule budget.
Man Of Steel I haven't watched since I was a kid and remember it being decent but unnecessarily convoluted and strayed way too far from the established Superman setting/lore to a degree of mockery (Costner doing his damnedest to play sociopath and the Fortress of Solitude being an Obilvion spaceship being examples I remember thinking were stupid).

>>212509685
Make him charismatic as fuck unlike the Shannon one (who did perform one all said, but he was still a freaky little autist). I really don't care if they make him a total Viltrumite I MUST BREEEED rip off. I would even be interesting in something novel like Superman gets him depowered but also redeems him vs. Phantom Zone panishment. Cool sequence would be Superman banished to PZ at some point so he's surviving and has to be some clever way to get him out so it's cathartic when Superman actually gets back to Earth and punches Zod with the Williams theme after seeing him basically have free reign to do whatever he wants in Superman's absense

>>212512228
Daredevil and specially The Penguin suck. You must have awful fucking taste in movie.
You also seem to know very little about comics.
The Fortress of Solitude is based on Birthright and 2000s era Fortress, for example. In the comics they even relocated it to the Amazon jungle.

>>212509441
Brainiac could be Thanos tier good villain for a Justice League movie but the retards that make decisions keep forcing Darkseid.

>>212512228
>zoomer critic
>nonchalant “yeah I don’t remember those movies they suck tho” reddit opinion
Did you remember to watch your daily penguinz0 video sweety

>>212511649
I think for a lot of people killing Zod was the cherry on top of the stuff they didn't like. The movie made a lot of dumb mistakes, like they had 9/10 x 100 in downtown Metropolis and Superman cracks wise with Lois in the aftermath rather than being horrified and distraught, he simply gives Zod a weird glare as he's breaking down rather than something more interesting like trying to talk to him whilst containing his anger/grief over the destruction he caused, seems utterly heedless of the collateral in Metropolis their extremely boring fight caused, etc, etc.

>>212512349
>Daredevil and specially The Penguin suck
And you're saying I have shit taste lmao
>You must have awful fucking taste in movie
Not beating the saar allegations
>based on Birthright and 2000s era Fortress
Ah so an era nobody read, gives a shit about, or has any frame of reference for given that was when most Americans and people in general stopped reading American comics

>>212512394
*9/11

>>212512381
They really should swallow their pride and take DCAU inspiration the way the comics incorporated Harley. DCAU Brainiac and Darkseid was great in terms of voice and presence. Sneeder Darkseid was alright, the voice didn't hold a candle to Ironside Darkseid

>>212506206 (OP)
Is Tom Welling in it?

>>212512386
>>zoomer critic
Screenwriter, actually
>>I don’t remember those movies
Quite the opposite, I'm saying I remember those movies significantly better than others I watched at that time because I particularly remember them being shitty.
>reddit opinion
Anyone that holds up any post-2012 capeshit as kino is of a "reddit" persuasion. I personally hope both Supergunn and Fantastic Foreskin bomb so we can put this shitty fucking genre into the dustbin of dominant genres past where it belongs alongside 50s Westerns, 80s action movies, and 00s frat guy comedies.
>Did you remember to watch your daily penguinz0
No, but the retarded Indian situation on 4channel is crazy

>>212512470
capeshit is never going away, it's not even a new genre we've had them since the 80s in some form or another. there's too much comic shit to draw on and too many different genres you can do with it. the Joker movie for example is nothing like the new Superman.

>>212512470
>No, but the retarded Indian situation on 4channel is crazy
The correct answer was “I don’t know who the fuck that is”

Anyway is that you David?

>>212506206 (OP)
Is Zatanna hinted at in the movie?

>>212512549
no

>>212512513
>David
I don't know who the fuck that is
>>212512500
>capeshit is never going away
It's not that I think it'll disappear, rather that I'm tired of the cookie-cutter, mass-produced MCU-model superhero movie that's been bog standard. Superhero stuff made before the genre became dominant after 2008 was far more varied and interesting, and I hope that the genre no longer being dominant would result in that creativity returning; much like what happened with Westerns and Action movies before.

>>212512590
>>David
David Goyer is my best guess.

>>212512228
I was 11 when MoS came out and 14 when BvS came out. Liked both movies. These characters aren’t that complicated. Superhero movies are just action movies with some fairy dust of them. You have be like really into silver age superman to find those movies irredeemable or “edgy”. I remember not liking the Affleck casting, wanted Nolan like any other kid but Affleck hit the ground running in BvS. Obviously you should rewatch those movies to gain an original comprehensive opinion. But if you’re anything like other people I’ve seen you won’t rewatch because you’re scared you’ll like it. Not like you have to love it or anything.

>>212512590
Oh, yeah MCU slop will probably be toned down a bit. They released 3 MCU movies this year and 2 shows. I can't imagine that level of content keeps being churned out. Reportedly the DCU only plans 1 movie and 1 show a year, and will vary directors and genres according to Gunn so hopefully they stick to that and it doesn't all feel like the same mass produced slop.

>>212512617
>David Goyer
I'd never, EVER write a screenplay for a superhero movie unless it was a Phoenix Jones movie.

>>212512720
>phoenix jones
based

>>212506206 (OP)
Was it based?

>>212512590
>Superhero stuff made before the genre became dominant after 2008 was far more varied and interesting
Superhero movies are risky volatile endeavors. We aren’t going to pretend that <2008 capeshit was bliss. Reaves Superman, 80’s Batman, X-Men, F4, Tobey’s Spiderman all collapsed for one reason or another.

JAMES GUNN!
Yes, I'm pointing at (you)! I know you lurk on /tv/.
What do *you* have to say about this film?

>>212512658
>These characters aren’t that complicated.
That's my problem, Snyder very desperately wants you to think these characters are "deep" without actually putting in any of the effort or worldbuilding to do so. If it were just a straight-up Dark Knight Returns adaptation, that would be great; but it isn't.
>Superhero movies are just action movies with some fairy dust of them
Some are and some aren't, it all depends on the type of hero and the type of story you want to tell. It's very obvious to me judging by what Snyder says about his movies and what the Indians who worship him say about them that he very much wants you to take his movies seriously and at face value, which I do (and think they're really shitty as a result, especially when compared to the types of movies he wants his to be compared to).
>I remember not liking the Affleck casting
Because he is a middle-aged alcoholic with a beer gut who has no screen presence or charisma at all in stark contrast to Bale who has it in spades despite the meme voice?
>you won’t rewatch because you’re scared you’ll like it
No, I won't rewatch it because I grew out of 2010s Superhero movies years ago and have an intense, deep-seated resentment for their impact/influence on the American film industry and popular culture whether it be Snyderslop or MCU crap. I won't watch that shit again until I reach middle age and start feeling nostalgic for it given it'll tragically inevitably be better than whatever Indian AI atrocities will be passing as "film" by then.

I dislike what they did to Superman's biological parents. Feels like they copied it straight from Invincible with the Viltrimites.

>>212506206 (OP)
*raises paw*
How was Krypto??

>>212512941
You seriously need to rewatch those movies instead of regurgitating literal Reddit lines

>>212513003
THE BEST DOGGO EVER!!

>>212513012
>Reddit
Reddit is the one place on earth that still worships and circlejerks these shitty fucking Superhero movies.

>>212512973
I found it my biggest gripe with the film. Gunn cited Birthright as a major inspiration, and in that story a similar beat happens. But it's revealed to be a falseflag from Lex.

In the movie, we have Lex and Terrific repeatedly say its legit. But they confirm it so hard, in my mind, it makes me think theres room for it to be retconned/expanded upon in the Supergirl movie, or something? It just didn't sit well with me. Maybe I'm coping - who knows.

>>212506206 (OP)
David Corenswet and Nicholas Hoult are relentlessly handsome.

>>212513044
It comes off as Birthright written by Byrne. Personally I'm glad they didn't make it a falseflag, would've felt cheap.

>>212513075
i hate you

>>212513083
why?

>>212513044
Khryptonians are evil and died of their own ineptitude

>>212513095
because i hate my pathetic miserable life. someone shoot me. please.

>>212508385
reminds me of "MJ" in the late spider-man films where she's filling the role but she isn't MJ. I suppose in the spider-man case they might have wanted to avoid fans having expectations of what will happen

>>212512068
How do you even make a straight adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns when each issue changes the tone? How did they do it in those animated movies they made?

>>212508658
>>212508678
>>212508683
>>212508716
>>212508923
>>212509110
>>212509836
Needs scene where her skirt gets lifted up and we see her underwear

>>212513149
i prefer a homosexual adaptation

>>212508658
reminds me of this girl https://www.redgifs.com/watch/rectangulardefinitivegroundbeetle

>>212508419
>gunn:it's about immigration
>also gun:they want to breed away all of the people living there

>>212512135

>>212513208
it's really not all that much about immigration desu. it never comes up really in the movie aside from the plot point about Jor-El, and Superman never really refers to himself as an immigrant. The final message of the movie is more or less that the Kents are his real parents and he's a human, not a Kryptonian.

>>212508136
just watch the christopher reeves films

>>212511323
>They are consistently fascist dickheads.
Yes and that's why Earth is better. Mankind are Superman's people, not Kryptonians.

>>212513208
>gunn:it's about immigration
>also gun:they want to breed away all of the people living there
Think that was Gunn just being out of touch and thinking he has to say that shit still to appeal to interested parties.

>>212513075
I think it cheapens the whole "dual heritage" thing if one is objectively evil. But I can see your point, too. While I didn't like it it's not massive enough to really impact my enjoyment of the plot.

>>212513125
While true, Jor-El is almost always framed as one of the few who see through the Kryptonian shenanigans, mostly due to a good heart.

>>212513305
he really needed to not say anything because it put me off watching this film since I thought it would have political messaging. also that would date the movie and it's annoying watching something with outdated pandering.

>>212513312
Maybe it's because I never cared for his dual heritage thing to begin with. Superman never knew his parents, and has absolutely no memory of them or Krypton. Krypton culture is as foreign to him when he first discovers it as it would be to you or me. You could make him a human who just got the same powers in a freak accident and personality wise he'd be the same person. Supergirl, or Martian Manhunter, or Starfire or whatever makes more sense to do an immigrant conflicted alien heritage storyline with than Superman imo.

>>212508569
Incredible Hulk goes through the origin in a short montage in the beginning.

>>212506550
My god, what a colossal faggot. Asshole ismmade of jelly. You read shit like this and your testo drops 50 points.
Retard is lost.

>>212511971
>It’s an absolute tragedy that a 50 year old movie has a stranglehold on a character that’s otherwise relatively fluid and unremarkable.
It made 2 billion in today's money, making it the most profitable Superman film to date.

>>212511971
But that movie was the only one to actually portray Superman correctly

>>212513312
>I think it cheapens the whole "dual heritage" thing if one is objectively evil.
Goku doesn't do that dual heritage thing even with the Super Saiyan stuff. He still considers himself an Earthling like Superman.
>I am a Saiyan that was raised on Planet Earth
>I WON'T LET YOU DESTROY MY WORLD

>>212513766
The chicken or the egg

Why did they choose to make all the characters ugly?

>>212506206 (OP)
Is Rachel Brosnahan still cute?

>>212514846
But enough about your home movies

>>212507272
Glad you finally saw it! Good luck!

>>212514895
I am unironically better looking than whatever the fuck it is they dressed up like superman.

>>212515034
Show face. Quickly

>>212511270
Holy shit Superman has massive clown feet

>>212506260
I liked MoS better

>The Els are pushed under the bus in favor of the Kents. Els are the evil parents
>Theres a big nothing burguer to Lois in the third act, she pilots a ship with the Daily crew just to write a article
> Overly emotional Superman whom Lois almost broke up with
> Forced "No one was hurt"/"place was evacuated" when shit would clearly have one casuality at least
>Inferior action sequences to MoS
>No memorable soundtrack
>Weak Superman
>All major action sequences was showed in the trailers
>Dumbest Lex possible
>Superman kills Ultraman and some heroes killed
>Almost the same plot as MoS and BvS, differences is DCEU Superman has more diginity

Felt like Gun tries to overcompansate for MoS

>>212510891
I remember there was something from the silver age where he was constantly shaking his head at such speeds it didn’t register to the human eye. He did that only as Clark.

>>212515236
If it's different than MOS mean it's good
>Superman kills Ultraman and some heroes killed
Yes he's not batman

>>212515400
Ultraman will be back as bizarro

>>212512973
It's not really that hard to do a workaround to show that Jor-El isn't le bad
>Krypton is going to shit
>they are spiriting away Kal-El to Earth
>Zod shows up, has his own plans for escape (could be a ship that's way shittier than Kal's pod or some Phantom Zone chicanery, simply to explain why he doesn't show up until Clark is an adult)
>knows humans + BKC = near full blooded Kryptonians
>makes Jor-El do the recording as he threatens Lara with promise they can be in on his escape plan
>leaves them to die anyhow lol
But frankly I am not adverse to Jor-El being a villain

>>212515510
>>makes Jor-El do the recording as he threatens Lara with promise they can be in on his escape plan
Actually no, scratch that. Kal's pod is in firing range of Zod's guns. He makes Jor-El do the recording or else he will fire on his infant son. Jor-El goes along with it because he has le hope and faith things will work out for his boy

>>212512658
They are just dogshit movies anon
no wonder they were unviersally derided

>>212515562
If they go with Jor-El being forced to do the second half, then there'd have to be enough time for him to intentionally scramble it to try and prevent Clark from seeing it. Doesn't make sense for the ship to land fine enough to get Clark safe on earth as well as whatever tool they decide to use to create the Fortress to be perfectly intact, but the crash somehow causes one video message to get get scrambled and it can't be fixed by any of the Superbots. They'd definitely go the extra step and have Jor-El trying to prevent Supes from ever seeing the second half.

>>212515510
>>212515562
Would also add that I like the DCAU interpretation of Brainiac being both an AI and crucial to Krypton's destruction (though make him a AI from Colu originally rather than native to Krypton). I have no clue if the comics ever did this but would be cool having Superman and Zod team up againt Brainiac, Superman to protect Earth and Zod raging and wanting revenge.

>>212515236
>I liked MoS better
Then you don't like Superman, or movies

>>212515681
I haven't seen the movie anon, only read up on spoilers and it occurred to me the message could easily be made a misdirect rather than Jor-El actually be sinister. So would it work if after the recording Jor-El gets the upper hand, like blindsides the soldier that had a gun to him and rushes into a separate chamber, locks it, and has enough time to scramble before the doors are blown open? Maybe have Zod realise what Jor-El has done and we him beat Superman's biological father to death with his own hands?

>>212507242
>Presumably. Their message is uncorrupted and it says they sent Superman to conquer the Earth and BREED as many human women as he can. It's possible Luthor fabricated it but the movie seems to lean fairly heavily on the idea that he didn't and goes moreso with the message that "The Kents are his real parents".

If the message wasn't manipulated by Luthor, it's possible that Brainiac did corrupt it. Some people think it may be Zod forcing Jor-El and Lara to say that, but I hope they give Zod a rest. Brainiac isn't even one of my favorite Superman villains, but anything is better than Zod.

I'm all for Krypton being a distopian hellhole before exploding, but Jor-El and Lara shouldn't be evil. Everything else about Krypton (the -phantom zone and its criminals, the Eradicator device, Doomsday, kryptonite, etc.) should be a menace.

>>212511948
This webm alone justified the MOS film.

>>212516019
>This webm alone justified moving far away from the MOS film.
fixed

>>212506206 (OP)
Does Lex come off as a Musk parody or more of a generic evil corporate boss?