Why are DVDs still being sold? Is someone still watching new movies on a 480p CRT today? Because that's the only thing DVDs were ever designed for.

I knew someone back in the day who would buy DVDs, and buy blank VHS, and give them to their friend to record the movie onto VHS, all rather than buy a DVD player, which would have been cheaper in the long run.
This was like 2010.

My old man was buying blank VHS tapes from our local grocery store up until 2013. Hell, I remember him setting the recorder up to catch the premiere of Aston Kutcher in Two-and-a-Half Men. If someone is so stubborn in their ways, well then hey, money's money. Slap it on a cheaper CD for the same price. Someone will buy it.

>>212518254
VCRs were still the main way to record TV in the early 2000s though. DVRs were still a pretty expensive new technology that most people didn't have. Buying movies on VHS, on the other hand, has been completely obsolete since 1996.

>>212518190
>>212518254
VHS is really REALLY convenient in a lot of ways. I bought a whole bunch of VCRs cheap when everyone was getting rid of them (have about 4 that are brand new) and got like 100 blanks at a thrift store for about $20. I can set it to record sports games and reruns of old shows that aren’t streaming anywhere, but they’re on TV for free. DVDs are cool but the fact I can take one tape out and watch other things and then put that tape back in and watch it is pretty cool.

>>212518074 (OP)
They play in my minivan for long trips with the kids, my folks live 3 hours away

>>212518534
you're either a boomer or a zoomer

>>212518074 (OP)
It's Prime Day but they aren't even lowering prices on most blu-rays

>>212518534
VHS is the equivalent of 240x480 interlaced, which is effectively 240x240 resolution. You're not even going to see where the ball is if you watch sports that way.

>>212518695
Blu-ray itself is a 20 year old obsolete format. Everyone has a 4K tv now, so why aren't they watching 4K UHD blu-rays?

>>212518748
>Everyone has a 4K tv now
70 percent of yanks do, in my country it's more like 1 in 4 people own one.

>>212518521
I was there, zoomie. DVD wasn't the preferred popular format until 2001 when everyone and their mother had a PlayStation 2. Up until that point people were still watching Deep Blue Sea and Gattaca on God's own Blockbuster rental tapes.

>>212518074 (OP)
>Wh-why are you buying physical media, goyim? Just buy digital and own nothing forever!

>>212518695
Prime Day was always a scam to begin with.

>>212519127
It's literally available on 3 different physical formats. I'm betting the only reason they keep DVD around is so that the blu-ray and 4K blu-ray look like "premium products" and they can get away with charging more for them, when 4K should be the only format and it should be the price of the DVD.

>>212518074 (OP)
>Why are DVDs still being sold?
People with kids who have those bigass SUVs with DVD players built into the headrests.

>>212519202
It's also due to DVD being more affordable than Bluray.

>>212519245
Production costs are virtually the same for all of these formats and the DVD and Blu-ray is just a scaled down version of what's on the 4K blu-ray.

DVDs are good enough for some people and the sales justify the production

>>212519202
>4K should be the only format and it should be the price of the DVD.
Amen, brudda

I would bet there’s a large number of people who still don’t know what a blu ray is. Why would a grandma know what 1080p is, or that she needs a new disc player when her disc player works fine

>>212519745
Because it's been around for almost 20 years now? Is this grandma also so blind that she can't see how bad DVDs look on her modern flat screen TV? Or is she still using a CRT from the 90s?

>>212519815
20 years ago some grandmas were in their 60s or 70s. They don’t know what a fucking blu ray is

>>212519276
Bluray is dead bro, it has stopped being produced now.

>>212518254
I continued using a cassette walkman until the mid 2000s, and a portable CD player until the mid 2010s.

Peeps still pissed over HD DVD losing the format war. Keep cranking out DVDs out of spite

>>212518074 (OP)
Extras. Its all about the extras you can get and unaltered color grading.

>>212520225
What does any of that have to do with the format it's on?

>>212518534

>>212518074 (OP)
CHICKEN JOCKEY

>>212518695
I saw joker 2 was 50% off

>>212518748
I feel like not that many people actually own a 4k blu ray player and those who do its prob just a ps5 that they didnt even realize plays em

>>212519017
>until 2001 when everyone and their mother had a PlayStation
fantasy land bullshit about an era when moms thought gamecubes were pikachus

>>212518074 (OP)
My mom has a huge dvd collection that she loves to buy cause theyre cheap. She will then watch them on a dvd player hooked up to her 4k screen

>>212520915
You jest, but part of the reason PS2 sold so well was because of it being a (at the time) affordable DVD player.

>Is someone still watching new movies on a 480p CRT today? Because that's the only thing DVDs were ever designed for
This is the laziest bait ever.

>>212521043
It's true though.
Watching DVDs on a 4K display is a dogshit, blurry AF experience.

>>212518534
Good pickup anon. I fell for the TiVo meme and my cable company just turned off support a few months ago and it's basically just a brick now. My House MD recordings from 15 years ago still work but I can't record anything else anymore.

>>212518074 (OP)
ppl who have power outages or watch sth so often it's cheaper to own

>>212521086
I have watched thousands of movies on a monitor or a phone across many formates. It makes little difference. Dvd rips, VHS, laserdisc, you name it I've seen it. As long as it's not minecraft tier compression, it really doesn't matter. Its just a grift by the industry. All you need is a screen and some headphones.

>>212521409
Torrenting exists you know.

>>212521480
This is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. You sound like the boomers who say they can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. If you watch the Lord Of The Rings on DVD compared to the UHD versions, you'd have to blind as fuck to not see the massive increase in detail.

>>212521480
i never watch movies with headphones, seems very autistic

>>212521560
>This is the biggest crock of shit I've heard
I've been watching movies since you were sucking your mothers tit. Quality improves over time but it doesn't make a movie. You're just a bratty faggot who thinks a DVD rip is le literally unwatchable. Probably haven't seen anything made before 1980 either.

>>212518074 (OP)
I don't have anything that plays blurays

>>212521637
I am autistic.

>>212521713
It is unwatchable, boomer. Who the fuck watches movies with headphones, anyway? And who the fuck said anything about the quality of the movie itself being determined by how clear it looks? No shit, Sherlock. You can watch the Godfather on a Betamax and the movie would still be a classic, but that's not what you said. You said there's no difference between 4K UHD and laserdisc, which is laughably false. You just admitted you lack the ability to notice details, large or small.

DVDs have a higher bitrate than 4k Netflix streams.

>>212521822
Guess I should've said "it doesn't make a movie any more or less watchable", but other than that, you're still a faggot. As for the headphones, I like to hear every little sound in a movie, it's entirely a preference thing. And I said it makes it little difference, not no difference. A VHS is still perfectly watchable. A DVD is still perfectly watchable. If you think either of these are unwatchable you're still in your dad's balls.

>>212520826
>I saw joker 2 was 50% off

>>212518521
>Buying movies on VHS, on the other hand, has been completely obsolete since 1996.
This just outs you as a zoomer who googled when the first DVDs were sold. VHS held out until well into 03/04 in some places

>>212521524
No thanks, I'm too pretty to go to prison, they'd turn my mouth into a mailbox.

>>212522148
My dad bought a DVD player in 1999 for $200 and it came with 5 free movies. I also remember pretty much every new computer came with a DVD drive by 1998. There's no reason anyone should have still been wasting money on VHS movies by the late 90s.

>>212518074 (OP)
Cheaper to make and usually cheaper to buy than Blu-rays.

>>212522218
>every new computer came with a DVD drive by 1998.
maybe a CD drive

>>212522275
No, it was DVD, retard.

>>212522175
show me your ass faggot.

>>212518074 (OP)
>you can't play dvd's on an hd tv
wut

>>212522218
What were the movies?

Let me guess:
Back to the future 2
Home Alone 3
Christmas Vacation
Turner & Hooch
Jumanji

>>212522275
No, CD drives were standard in every computer by like 1993. DVD adoption happened much faster. Here's an ad from 1998. Even the cheapest Gateway PC had a DVD drive.

>>212522401
You got to choose them from a list and at that time the only things on DVD were basically movies that had come out in 1998 so we got
>Rush Hour
>Lethal Weapon 4
>US Marshalls
>Lost in Space
>some chick flick my mom wanted that I don't remember

>>212522543
Fuck...I was thinking of writing Lethal Weapon
Rush Hour is still a fun movie. Jackie Chan shit is timeless.

>>212522321
you’re delusional if you think the average pc came with a DVD player by 1998, genuinely mentally ill.

>>212522619
See >>212522415

>>212522415
>cheapest gateway

Gateway was the Alienware of the 90s howeveralthoughbeit

>>212522709
See >>212522873

>>212522904
Nothing to do with DVD drives, retarded gaslighter.

>>212522543
we had lethal weapon 4 and austin powers the spy who shagged me

>>212523044
>gateway being high end even at the cheapest has nothing to do with early adoption of tech

So you’re just dumb. That’s cool.

>>212523151
Holy fuck, you're unbelievably retarded + disingenuous. Literally what the shit is wrong with you?

there are still quite a few movies/tv shows only available on DVD

>>212518074 (OP)
A lot of cars and portable players in use are still DVD based. I never got into bluray before digital took over but I recall bluray players being a pain in the ass and slow booting. The copy protection schemes were annoying af.

>>212523196
I enjoy stating facts and watching them enrage retards.

Like how there were only a handful of games on dvds in 1998 and they would also all have multi-disc cd versions too. That all gateway PCs were high end, and in 1998 lower range PCs would still mostly have cd drives, as very little software would be on dvds at the time. The cddvd drive wouldn’t be standard for a few years. That the dvd format wouldn’t hit ubiquity until after the ps2 launched in 2000, etc, etc.

I'm not going to pay $10 minimum for every single movie I watch. That would be ridiculously expensive and fill my apartment up.

It's impossible to have a conversation on this shithole now. It's all extremely insecure losers and teenagers who are ALWAYS signalling and posturing, trying to look correct and badass on an anonymous anime forum.

>>212523597
Games weren't on DVD because they wanted to have the largest possible market to see them to, and that included a lot of people who had bought PCs years ago, before DVD drives became standard. And Gateway was never high end, they were tied with Dell for being the cheapest PC OEM in the 90s.

But none of that is relevant because the simple fact is that if you're buying a movie, why would you spend money on a format that looks like shit and has already been obsoleted by something else?

>>212523729
It’s quite possible to have conversations here. As long as you’ve aren’t provably wrong/stupid. The idea of gateway PCs shipping without a cd drive, as per indicated in >>212522415, is utterly laughable and would make the computers massively overpriced junk, as cds would be standard until computers stopped shipping with disk drives at all.

>>212522873
Falcon was the Alienware of the 90s before Alienware became the Alienware of the 90s.

>>212523768
>gateway was never high end because you could get really cheap ones

Bro you weren’t alive at the time. The lowest price point at >>212522415 is provably not the cheapest possible, as just swapping the “bleeding edge” dvd-rom drive with mpeg2 decoder for a cd drive, that would actually be useful, would drop the price a bit.

>>212518521
>Buying movies on VHS, on the other hand, has been completely obsolete since 1996.

You mean just like vinyl and cassette got obsolete in the mid 80s when CDs became available?

>>212523890
>falcon
Hah, wow.

Here’s a falcon magazine ad from 1997. cd drive. Starting at $2499

>>212524081
Looks like this one is from late 1998 or early 1999. cd drive.

To settle this stupid fucking argument, I want to point out to everyone that in real life DVD sales were nonexistent in 1998 while VHS was the entire market, DVDs reached parity with VHS tapes in 2001, and finally exceeded them in 2002, although VHS didn't go extinct on shelves until 2006

The final mass produced VHS tapes were A History of Violence, Jarhead, Doom, Saw 2 and the Ryan Reynolds romantic comedy "Just Friends"

>>212524189
It’s not even an argument, just an excuse to go down memory lane. Haven’t thought about gateway for like 30 years and forgot falcon existed at all. Now I’m picturing a tech support call to gateway, some moron paying, wow, $5k, adjusted for inflation, and wanting to know why his dvd drive won’t read any installation cds.

>>212524189
That's the most depressing chart I've ever seen. Are people really buying digital DRM copies of movies more than actual physical discs now?

>>212524189
So why is it that VHS went extinct only 7 years after the invention of DVD, but DVD's are still being made 19 years after the invention of Blu-ray?

>>212524440
It’s including “rentals,” and yes. You can also factor the “free digital copy” thing physical was doing for a while to make the numbers easier to swallow.

>>212524379
Where did you get the idea that DVD drives couldn't read CD's? That's never been a thing. Nobody would have sold a computer that couldn't read a format that the majority of software was on.

>>212524509
Because of the objective advantages disc media has over magnetic tape. Video quality is only a part of the equation. Which is also why straight digital overtook dvd and bluray, and why dvd and bluray are considered the same category.

>>212524566
By being alive at the time and wandering around costco and circuit city and shit, looking at display models with a floppy drive, a cd drive, and a dvd drive.

>>212524605
But streaming and digital downloads are objectively worse than discs in every way. If I'm paying for a movie I want it to be at the highest possible quality available. I also don't want it to be stolen from me when the company I bought it from eventually goes out of business or decides to shut down the DRM servers.

>>212524189
If streaming is pulling in that kind of money, why are these companies always bitching that their streaming services can't turn a profit? It's also interesting that physical media sales were in sharp decline before streaming even existed.

>>212524682
>digital downloads are objectively worse than discs in every way
Except the “get up and mess with cases and a player” way. As was said, video quality is only a small part of the equation. Guess it won’t make you feel any better to know a “digital rental” is like $4. It’s microtransaction style exploitation.

>>212524509
I would not be shocked if VHS eventually makes a comeback as a niche format like vinyl records and Polaroid film. Sometimes I think it'd be funny to tell people in 2000 that in 25 years most brick and mortar stores would have a vinyl selection that dwarfs their CD selection.

>>212524710
They’re counting third world subscriptions, free subscriptions, etc.

If you’re over 45, buying new formats must sound like the biggest bullshit . You bought VHSs only to dump them for DVDs, then blu-ray, now what? Your eyesight is getting fucked by age anyway, you don’t need to see pores on a closeup of a face

>>212524810
Vinyl made a comeback because the technology is extremely simple and it’s trivial now to build inexpensive turntables of quality that was simply impossible in the 70s and 80s on even the highest end.

VHS is not coming back because magnetic heads are a cumbersome and complex technology that finer engineering can’t really improve. Furthermore magnetic tape will always have the problem of degrading every time it is read, every second it exists, etc.

>>212524645
The double drives didn’t mean theDVD drive couldn’t read CDs. Just that the CD drive couldn’t read DVDs

>>212518534
based
>>212518720
boomers watched 50 years of sportsball on broadcast tv before switch to HD in the 2010s
it can be done

>>212524780
DRM is fine for rentals that are supposed to be time limited anyway, but if I’m paying to own something, I expect to actually own it permanently and make as many copies as I want. And there’s no reason why the video files shouldn’t be at least as high bitrate as a 4K Blu-ray. They also need to be priced cheaper than the disc, since I’m expected to use up my own hard drive space to store it now. Until all of those things happen, digital downloads of movies will be an objectively worse way to buy a movie.

>>212524950
>The double drives didn’t mean theDVD drive couldn’t read CD
Yes, it did. Combination disc drives wouldn’t be a thing till the 00s.

>>212524978
I’ve explained why the numbers are what they are. Your personal preferences/expectations don’t change that.

>>212525124
The numbers are what they are because the average person is a mouth breathing retard with no inner monologue who will happily buy whatever slop the film industry markets to him without questioning any of it.

>>212518074 (OP)
My Dad.

>>212519276
>Production costs are virtually the same
but the product sells well enough to still be viable because the production system is already built. I also doubt every film is still getting a DVD anymore. Studios still want to sell a consumer a product. As the studio waits out those consumers moving over to streaming systems.

>>212525071
>>212524645
You are wrong and I'm going to beat you up
DVD drives could always read CDs
Computers sometimes came with two drives because one of them could read DVDs and CDs, but the other one could burn blank CDs
This fell out of favor when drives that could burn or read anything were introduced, although there was a pirate's convenience in putting the CD you wanted to copy in the DVD drive and the blank CD in the CDRW drive

I also assumed the CD-only drive would be faster because of its speed number, but on looking it up it turns out that a "52X" CD drive is only 7mbps while a "4X" DVD drive is 10mbps. I choose to blame the jews for this.

>>212524810
>>212524978
Vinyl made a comeback because of its higher audio fidelity than CDs. VHS was really just a stopgap format until technology became advanced enough to watch movies at home at the full quality they were made at. VHS wasn't even good for anything made for TV either, since it's half the resolution of broadcast quality TV. There's no legitimate reason why it should ever come back.

>>212524810
>>212524930
Vinyl made a comeback because of its higher audio fidelity than CDs. VHS was really just a stopgap format until technology became advanced enough to watch movies at home at the full quality they were made at. VHS wasn't even good for anything made for TV either, since it's half the resolution of broadcast quality TV. There's no legitimate reason why it should ever come back.

>>212525236
Whatever helps you feel superior at night.

The long and short of the argument is the reason dvd and bluray are lumped together is they are functionally the same as far as playing the media goes. That bluray didn’t replace dvd because it’s about more than quality, it’s about ease of use/access, convenience, etc. that “digital buying/renting” did actually offer improvements in usage. That the facet that knocked hddvd out of the race were the bits where they said you could shred the surface of a bluray and it would still be readable. Also ps3 vs external peripheral drive.

>>212524710
> It's also interesting that physical media sales were in sharp decline before streaming even existed.
I don't blame you for not remembering this because it only flickered in my head with effort but there was a time when the Netflix Mailer was the definitive form of media. For less than the price of a Blockbuster rental, you could get a dozen movies a month, mailed back and forth. The bastards definitely "throttled" you if you went far past that, because their postage costs were exceeding your membership costs.

That was a massive advantage DVDs had, they were so thin and light that they could be sent like letters for pennies each while a VHS tape would have to be a proper package.

Netflix claims their all-time most-mailed DVD is Sandra Bullock's "The Blind Side," a 2009 release which about matches the timeframe of Peak Mailer.

>>212525327
I’m talking about before cd-r/rw was standard. 90s. First and second generation dvd drives couldn’t read cds, and you still needed a cd drive.

>>212525477
I didn't have this in my country but not far from me there was basically an ATM for DVDs, the quicker you returned them the less they charged. Lord of the Rings Extended cuts exceeded the minimum which was annoying

>>212525477
>Netflix had mailed a total of 5.2 billion DVDs when the service shut down in 2023

>>212525408
Vinyl died because cheap turntables would gouge out the tracks and degrade the recording with every play. Said turntables don’t exist anymore.

>>212518074 (OP)
There's a lad over in britfeel who all he does is buy dozens of DVDs each week and post them when they arrive. He's some shut-in loser NEET freak, likely fat, likely Indian, likely a virgin. He makes loads of obviously stupid and obfuscatory justifications like the quality is better or the sound is better or whatever, but the truth is that he's just addicted and kinda stupid. That's the 'market' for DVDs these days.

>>212525554
So like Redbox but you paid by the hour? And you were sprinting back to it to return it in time after watching the movie?

>>212521001
It was my families first DVD player, and it was an Christmas present for me. I remember when getting a laptop with a DVD player was a huge deal because then you could watch things on the go. Quaint

>>212525327
If you really wanted to win this argument you’d be talking about how early combination drives couldn’t read very fast while cd drives were trying to read faster and faster to stay relevant.

>>212526054
Did you marathon the first sentence of my post and then get tired

>>212525651
You only needed to sprint if you forgot or went to bed instead, the cutoffs were large. But it lead to lots of comfy days where we would watch a film, find another, watch it, find another and so on

My friend does. He doesn't care about quality

>>212521822
Bait or a zoomzoom

>>212521480

This/
I rip clips from my vhs and laserdiscs and they look fine on my phone, these people have no clue what they are talking about.

>>212526080
Just really don’t care about you trying to tell me facts are incorrect because you think a $1500 gateway pc was mid/low grade in 1998, and not hideously overpriced garbage designed to sell to morons with too much money.

>>212526860
I literally mentioned the CD/DVD speed thing in my post, still visible up there, and you replied to me saying I didn't mention it.

You lose lol

*teabags ur face*

>>212518074 (OP)
>DVD: purchased legally
>Motion smoothing: on
>In-built TV speaker: cranked
Yep, it's kino time.

>>212518074 (OP)
the introduced bluray 20 years too early. dvd players still work fine for people who only watch movies occasionally

>>212527072
That’s nice bro. But you’ve still got that massive hole in your foot from where you claimed all dvd drives could read cds. we are talking about almost 30 years ago, you just weren’t paying as much attention as I was. And yeah, thanks for reminding me of the absurdity of gateway. Good times.

>>212527330
>bluray comes out today instead of with the ps3
>why the hell would I go back to discs after digital downloads?

>>212524855
I'm 46, and although I re-bought a handful of stuff on DVD that I had on VHS, and more stuff on CD that I had on cassette, as soon as they started with this Blu Ray bullshit, I was out. Ripped everything onto hard drives, sold all the physical stuff, been strictly pirating ever since. I honestly don't think I've bought a physical piece of media in nearly 20 years. Vinyl is a fetish.

>>212525327
hey is that pac man on that pc?

>>212525633
Is that the guy who keeps them all in those enormous plastic like locker cases? I've seen that guy's posts he's a fucking retard. Like, blew my mind how retarded.

>>212518074 (OP)
>why can't we have this? thanks, boomers.

>>212521409
>House MD recordings from 15 years ago
You should create a torrent of that and upload it online or something.

>>212520099
Portable CD players were bulky pieces of shit, and spinning discs with portable devices were always a vile combo. Why did you subject yourself to that well past its time?

>>212528331
Isn't this just the matrix?

>>212518748
1080p scales well to 4K. Watching a blu ray generally looks better than a rip or streaming.
I'm just using my old PS4 as my blu ray player. I've completely switched to PC for video games, so I feel no need to buy any of the devices that play 4K blu rays at this time.

>>212521972
this, DVDs are fine, I still by them, I only buy good movies that I really like on Bluray (so yeah like 1 a year)

They should have kept the name dvd and simply upgrade the resolution.
Blu ray unironically killed physical media. Old people didn’t want to upgrade to a new format

>>212524081
>Starting at $2499
>in 1997
what is that in 2025 dollars? Like $20,000?

>>212518074 (OP)
You can upscale them....and sometimes it's the only source of material you need for a restoration project.
-t. has to upscale 480p to 2160p

>>212518074 (OP)
My gran still records stuff on VHS, and I had to like wire up a HDMI to Composite setup for her to continue to record her stories when cable switched to digital.

>>212518720
And yet, we did. Fuckin idiot.

>>212518521
>completely obsolete since 1996
lol no.

>>212531285
old people are the ones doing digital rentals and shit. once its set up for them its another convenience upgrade. sit down, click the clicker a few times, get shit to watch. That's the point missed by bluray and hddvd. they are functionally identical to dvds.

>>212518074 (OP)
Children. They love to watch the save movie over and over again, and can learn to use a remote by the age of two. Once my kid learned how to climb out of his crib it was common to wake up in the morning and find he (silently) went downstairs, turned on the tv and dvd player, and just started watching Thomas.

Boomers dropped VHS for DVD because VHS were big ass cartridges that you had to rewind for 3 minutes. That was a bigger deal than picture quality which is why "better DVD" bluray didn't catch on the same way. DVD is still being sold because it's still being bought

>he doesn't own a dvd, vcr, 4k player, blu ray player, betamax, laser disc or film projector
ngmi

>>212530226
By 2010 they were like 20 bucks each and needed to be practically drop kicked to skip

>>212531638
Gen Xer. VHS absolutely sucked! Outside VC eating your tape, tracking going to shit after a few watches, you couldn’t skip or get bonus material. Also had to put in another tape if it ran over two hours. DVDs were beyond superior. They haven’t gone away because most people don’t give a shit about extra digital quality. Got a few blue rays and quality really isn’t they much better. Actually pretty disappointing. I expected these super crisp remastered versions and most times just looks like the DVD version

>>212532776
Cringe. Real Gen Xer here, the only good thing with DVDs are their increased resolution. All your points were wrong. You got bonus material at the end of the tape, or on another tape.


>Got a few blue rays and quality really isn’t they much better

Your taste of films must suck or you got bad luck because the difference between a Blu-ray and a DVD is night and day if the film was good quality and if they gave a damn when authoring it.

>I expected these super crisp remastered versions and most times just looks like the DVD version

It'd be good if you gave examples so we can figure out the issue. Please tell me you're using a screen that larger than 40" at least and has good dynamic range too.

>>212518074 (OP)
That's because Blue-Ray discs cost twice as much. Besides, in PAL regions the higher 576i resolution makes movies look good enough.

>>212533431
>Blue-Ray
It's "Blu-ray", nicka.

>>212532981
>the only good thing with DVDs are their increased resolution

and no rewinding, and no longer degrading the recording with every playback, instant seek, in addition to how there was no longer any risk of the tape getting eaten, etc.

>>212532981
you are a fucking retard

>>212533695
>degrading the recording with every playback
Skill issue. I got tape from the mid to late 90s that are pristine when watched.

>muh instant whiz-bang gratification

Not worth it. DVD/Blu-ray seeking is juttery. Laserdiscs were the champions of seeking. DVDs;et al? Pure puke. The saved time isn't even saved time because you often blast past the point you wanted.

>>212533819
Interesting points, you may want to get a doctor to check them out.

>>212518074 (OP)
>8k exists today
>why is nobody watching in 8k!!!

>>212533823
no one is trolled and no one believes you're even old enough to be on 4chan.

>hey guys, heard you were talking physical media... h-hope you don't mind if i butt in...

my little brother's godmother got Harry Potter 5 as an HD DVD for him as a present once she visited us. We tried playing it in our DVD player and it just didn't play kek. My little brother was not into Harry Potter at all and she was just a gossip/drinking friend of my mother's to begin with, so she just grabbed the first thing from a store as a dishonest gesture.
I alwasy thought the red case looked cooler than blu-rays or normal DVDs

>>212533958
You just outed yourself. VHS tapes with proper care can last a hundred years or more.
All the important information retained by the U.S. Government is on tape, not digital.

>>212518720
rare instance of a legitimate skill issue on the television board of all places

>>212534064
okay kid

>>212534234
Your generation (zoomers) deserves all the tough breaks it's getting.

>>212534801
Not sure what motivates “people” like you to keep doubling and tripling down on inane “no yous” like this

>>212535657
The universe (God if you will) rewards me with exclusives.

>>212535710
>>212534234

>>212531461
well no, that's what the announcers are literally for. like a laugh track for sitcoms.

honestly would be interesting to watch boomers watch sports without the laugh tr-commentators. wonder if they would even know what's going on. I doubt half of them even know what the rules are to begin with

>>212536214
>>212534234

>Zoomies pretending most PCs had DVD drives in the late 90s
Hilarious. You know why the PS2 became so popular, don't you? It wasn't the games, it was the fact that it was an affordable DVD player.

>>212536480
but dood the famously ludicrously priced gateways could have them and there was like 4 games on dvd it was tots common bruh

>>212532776
>Also had to put in another tape if it ran over two hours
SLP was four or more hours comfortably and ELP could maybe squeeze six hours a tape. Could have worse degredation over time but wasn't a big deal. Majority of VHS at my house recorded off tv were double feature tapes that had two films on it.
>>212536899
The prices in this advert don't seem exorbitant to me, especially not Alienware type prices. Considering they offered DVD drives and dedicated video cards, they had good specs for their time as well.

I watched a 4k AV1 video from torrent and it looked nice on my 4K screen with a small file size. The next generation of video encoders are obviously pretty based.

Also, I believe that 3840x2160 is going to be the final "standard premium" resolution of the future as electronics and technology cannot be improved much further. 1080p will be baseline "good", 4K will be what everything is released to consumers at.

>>212538976
>The prices in this advert don't seem exorbitant to me
feel free to adjust for inflation bro.

>>212539590
Inflation doesn't matter, I'm comparing it to prices at the time in general. Like in 1996 my family bought a Packard Bell computer that wasn't half as good as that lowest Gateway in that ad (>>212522415), and it was $1600 AFTER discounts, and it was 120mhz Pentium with 1.2GB HDD and 16MB RAM and 1 CD drive and no dedicated video. I get shit was getting better all the time but the price range for decent computers, especially for end users only, was high enough that the Gateway 1998 ad wasn't extreme, especially considering the DVD and dedicated video cards, plus 17" monitors included.

A year later, late 99 or maybe early 2000, I bought my own first PC and it was a shitty Compaq that was maybe $900 out the door (so cheaper), but it didn't have a 17 inch monitor and had no dedicated video card either, and at the time getting my own video card was another $120 or more (although in hindsight that was nice, fucking buttcoin assholes permanently ruined video card market years later). So even a year later I had a slightly better computer at only marginally better prices (almost the same cost if I would've got a new 17 inch monitor).

Now sure if you were tech savvy enough you could procure decent components and make an equivalent or much better than those Gateways circa 1998 for probably a grand max, but not everyone was or is like that. And Gateways got even more inexpensive to the end user for the sets later when they went into brick and mortar locations a year or two later.

>>212518534
Do you have a car rewinder?

>>212540166
>Inflation doesn't matter
It absolutely does.

furthermore, take note of how the first and second are identical aside from 8mb of vram, $339 for a cd-rw, $249 for a joystick and some software, etc etc, in 1998 money.

>>212518748
>old thing bad
>buy new thing
>consooom

>also pay carbon taxes because the planet is running out of resources and pollution is causing sea levels to rise

i bet you update your software too, you filthy animal.

>>212519127
you know what really pisses me off? its cheaper to buy dvd and blu rays than to buy digital. these globalist fucks charge you 15$+for a fucking download.

>>212532981
> You got bonus material at the end of the tape, or on another tape.

You’re full of shit. Most VHS’s had no bonus material at all. If the movie was short enough you might have something. I remember Wedding Singer had some karaoke thing at the end of the movie

>>212538976
Titanic I think was the last two tape VHS. The other thing sucked about VHS is you rarely got entire seasons of shows. I know with the X Files you only got hand picked episodes for each season until DVDs allowed you to get entire seasons

>>212533870
>watch some 8k bullshit
>can see every sore and blemish on the actor's disgusting human body

i hate hd. tv/movies arent suppose to be reality, i prefer the bluryness of smaller resolutions.

>>212536480
>You know why the PS2 became so popular, don't you? It wasn't the games, it was the fact that it was an affordable DVD player.
The PS2 had a massive software attach rate. People bought it for the games. Muh DVD player is asshurt tendie cope.

>>212540681
>>>/v/

>>212518074 (OP)
>Why are DVDs still being sold?
Costs like $0.2 to produce, sells for $20.

>>212518748
Blu ray looks good already, you can't tell the difference half the time.
>inb4 DVD looks good
No it doesn't

>>212540346
It doesn't matter in context, my entire argument is the idiots claiming that Gateway advert to be "the Alienware of the 90s" are morons who can't denote context and don't know the comparative pricing of that era for what you got. The Falcons of 1998 would've been more than the Gateways. PCs were still expensive in general and not every fucking pleb had computers nor needed them yet.
>second column is the same!
Except DOUBLE the VRAM on the graphics card and 100 Mhz more processor clock speed. Those were both big deals; again especially the graphics card. And equivalent 16MB graphics card in 1998 by itself probably would've been close to 300-500 bills if not more compared to a 100-300 8MB card the same year.

>>212540542
True but for quality reasons they didn't like using SLP or ELP on real releases, which didn't matter as much if you're recording shit off the TV anyway, which is what is specified in my context.
For example Centennial the VHS series is 12 VHS cassettes, but recording off TV we got the whole series on maybe 4-6 VHS (I don't recall and I'm not travelling to my parent's house and digging out the VHS cabinets to check). But also like Lonesome Dove, I remember we had that on two recorded VHS tapes for the whole four-part series, and I think the official release was one tape for each episode.

>>212541123
>The Falcons of 1998
you mean the ones posted at >>212524169 and >>212524081 that both don't bother showing a dvd-drive because that shit was useless at the time? that start at $500 more than the mid-range gateway or the same price as that piece of junk laptop?

>that start at $500
When the image you link to actually says "Custom built PCs starting at $2,495"?
I'm done arguing with you straight up liars.

>>212541435
2495 is ~500 more than 1999 yes. jesus you're stupid.

>>212540452
^LOL this anon obviously hasn't seen any more than one VHS tape or none at all.
The 1995 THX Star Wars OT release had interviews on each tape.

>>212518190
Vhs tape lasts longer than DVDs

>>212541706
no, they don't.

>>212541598
>>212541221
I thought you said starting at $500, yeah that was my fault, sorry. So you're agreeing with me? My whole argument this thread if I'm not talking about VHS tapes, is that the Gateway prices were not exorbitant for their time.

>>212542214
>Gateway prices were not exorbitant for their time.

They were though.

>>212542251
Ok, then show 1998 prices for a similar product that are much less, please. I posted prices of similar products but not exactly at that same time, as my experience was a little offset but was somewhat in line with those prices (especially considering the gateway products came with 17 inch monitors and video cards already installed). For a recap, late 1996 a Packard Bell PC which was half (or less) the specs of the low end 1998 Gateway advert was the same price after discounts at the time ($1600), and had only a 15 inch monitor and no dedicated graphics cards. Late 1999 or early 2000s I bought my own for the first time and again I spent less for a slightly better PC than the specs of the 2-grand Gateway in 1998 ad, but it didn't have a monitor nor a dedicated graphics card either and buying a graphics card (went with a Voodoo3 back then, I miss 3dfx Glide), for I think 120 ish; so total for my slightly better computer was total maybe $1100 all said and done.
So again from my experience the Gateway ads from 1998 didn't seem extremely exorbitant at the time. But also PCs weren't for every pleb around yet either.

>>212542118
yeah, they do

>>212518074 (OP)
More DVDs than Bluray still I think. Because streaming killed physical media and the people who can’t afford high speed internet also don’t have blurays or modern tvs.
They want some “video tapes” and buy more DVDs.
>>212518254
The TiVo era ended a lot of this tradition. And then it disappeared.

>>212542913
>show me something I can google myself

sounds like you were just one of the morons who fell for gateway's bullshit

There isn't enough difference between a Blu-ray and a DVD for average people. What pushed people away from VHS was size and rewinding, thereby Blu-Ray solves a problem that the marker simply did not have.

>>212543096
I've never owned a Gateway computer and I've mentioned what types of computers I had during that era multiple fucking times. The comment that "Gateways were the Alienware of the 90s" is just that retarded I had to call it out.

>>212543368
I really don't believe that at this point. If you think $250 is fine for a joystick you're just sick in the head.

>$250 joystick
I didn't even know what you were talking about so had to go back and read all the fine print, and you even lie about that because it comes with a shitty software suite too, so it is NOT in fact a $250 joystick, and also that is all upsale optional bullshit and not part of the actual prices for the products. Yeah again you're a fucking liar, get bent, I'm not replying to this thread again.

>>212543617
feel free to actually look at >>212522415, it'll help you not look like a moron, even though that seems to come quite naturally to you.

>>212541630
he's right, retard, 99% of VHS releases just had the movie, no "extra bonus material", maybe a couple of 2-minute trailers for other crap coming out right before it went into the main feature (if movie length permitted)

>>212518534
>DVDs are cool but the fact I can take one tape out and watch other things and then put that tape back in and watch it is pretty cool.
nigga wtf

>>212545480
Nice try, zoomy.

>>212519202
bingo

>>212540848
dvd doesn't have the same bullshit anti priacy crap on it that bluray does. if I buy a bluray I am required to but a player, if I buy a dvd it will work in damn near everything that takes a disc

I bought diehard on bluray a while back, every disc failed to play on my pc, and getting software to play it told me the shit was too old and I needed to pay 100$ to get new software... at that point I stopped trying and just pirated everything again.

>>212518688
coomer most probably

>>212520342
because bluray had blu in it so a lot of studios graded the movies to be bluer than they were

also the thing on bluray had a horrific vaseline denoise used making it worse than the dvd version and the hd dvd was objectively the best way to watch till the 4k version came out that was less fucked with.

>>212522391
that actually isnt as stupid as you think, I dont think I have a single dvd player that hooks up via hdmi, I have bluray players that do, but no dvd player.

>>212543896
teh joystick was 75$ new and this comes with 2 software 'suits' as well which is likely what makes up the rest of the 250$

DVDs are better than streaming

>>212518074 (OP)
I do

>>212546846
You’re just proving (you)’re really dumb and would fall for gateway’s bullshit. This was “never pay more than $20 for a computer game” era as well.