Friends is great and I'm tired of pretending it's not

>>212585687 (OP)
It's a show for gays/women

it was never funny

>>212585687 (OP)
every clip i have watched makes the characters seem jewish as fuck
except maybe joey

What was 7 on Monica's erogenous zones?

>>212585706
Pivot!

>>212585687 (OP)

>>212585687 (OP)
>>212585706

Whenever I try to watch it now I get distracted trying to figure out if matthew perry was in a booze or pills phase

>>212588343

>>212585706
Sounds like a "you" problem. Are you sure you're not depressed?

>>212588731
What was that about the goatee?

>>212586303
PIVOT!

how come there was never a friends—seinfeld crossover? they were both jewish shows on manhattan at the same time

>>212585687 (OP)
It was from an era where Whites and Jews could coexist without browns being involved. I'll miss those days.

>>212588868
"it means lots of pills"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/matthew-perry-says-tell-season-065858223.html

>>212588940
completely different tone and generation

>>212588868
lots of pills

>>212588983
The worst for this is that they started putting browns in nerd shows like silicon valley and the big bang theory. Like we have to accept that there will always be at least one Indian. It just makes the whole show seem depressing.

How does a man in NYC who has a fucking doctorate degree not know what “Unagi” is? Can’t name all 50 states either?

>>212588940
there is an episode with Jason Alexander playing a guy ready to kill himself when Phoebe get him on the phone trying to sell him toner.
I like to pretend it's Georges

>>212585713
the broomstick

>>212585687 (OP)
yeah the problem is you actually need FRIENDS and a functioning social life irl to really appreciate friends... and you're posting this on 4chan, you had to have known that ~80% of the replies were gonna be seething lonetards who don't have a single female friend, let alone 3 of them.

anyway, yeah i think it's definitely in the conversation for GOAT sitcom, certainly top 5. the comedy is still solid; good mix of witty wordplay, dramatic irony, and general goofiness that exemplifies what a great sitcom should do. yeah it ain't high art and it never pretended to be. great at balancing the episodic format where anyone can jump into an episode, while also still maintaining season-long arcs. the characters are each very well-defined, and the interpersonal rapports between each of them are fun and engaging. bullshit like HIMYM and big bang theory just blatantly ripped off friends, while being objectively worse. truly a pearl in the sea of shitty sitcom schlock.

tl;dr friends is actually good, and i'm sorry your life sucks so much if you really think it's not funny at all

>>212585687 (OP)
It's not really that funny, not many good jokes through the show, but very good group chemistry and comfy atmosphere. It's something you can leave playing in the back for comfort, but not really to have good comedy like seinfeld.

>>212589987
Also this is one of the few good jokes in the show

>>212585687 (OP)
Not great but mostly comfy.

>>212590194
She's been in that position before.

>>212590194
She got GAPED, Jerry!

>>212585687 (OP)
Soulless American shite, but if you fill a writers room full of funny people, you're always gonna get some gold.

i kept waiting for phoebe to leave the show since id only ever heard of monica and rachel and she was beyond insufferable, but she just stuck around. after season 3 i just started skipping scenes involving her, because even though i loved everybody else i just couldnt fucking stand her

>>212588940
There was a bit of a crossover with Mad About You though since Pheobe's twin sister Ursela was on that show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfAYXyqPiI

>>212590420
If you don't like her now, i assure you won't like her later. Her character gets incredibly worse with every season,perphaps the most of all the characters. Very bitchy with everyone, especially chandler

>>212590491
anon i finished the show years ago, although a lot faster than most since i never stopped skipping her scenes lol

>>212590519
Well you didn't miss anything good without phoebe really

>>212590420

>>212588940
Well for starters Seinfeld was actually funny. If you add seasoned food to bland food the whole dish comes out bland

>>212590031
>Chandler is supposed to be a loser
>Has slept with 10 women
Were americans really that promiscuous at the time? Or did the show exaggerate the lifestyle. Monica slept with like 20 guys and was supposed to be the more conservative of the girls

>>212588940
It kind of was

>>212585687 (OP)
Friends apologia is a sign of cultural decline. If in 2025 I see people simping for this crap for fags I fully expect that by 2045 people will be talking about RETVRNing to rupaul drag race.

>>212590734
They were jewish new york yuppies. Those people fucked everything.

>>212590688
jennifers breasts couldve shrunk until they grew inwards and she still wouldve been cuter than lisa

>>212590808
Chandler haircuts got progressively worse.
He looked pretty good looking in the first seasons, then started to get haircuts that showed too much of his massive forehead

>>212590808
monica in the first two seasons is still the most beautiful woman ive ever seen. unfortunately she went downhill until the last three when she hit milf status

>>212590688
holly molly

>>212590880
>arguably the most beautiful woman alive at the time
>also falls for plastic surgery and botox scams
>ruins her perfect face
Tragic stuff

>>212590808
>phoebe
Grim casting decision. Looked kinda cute at the start and then immediately hit the wall.

Ross is absolutely the worst character. Arrogant, pretentious, self-important and selfish

>>212590941
ill never understand why they keep doing it.

>>212590986
He becomes the only good character by the end, when the writers ruin everyone in the later seasons. He's the only character that became funnier with time. Mostly because he went from boring nerd to neurotic psycopath

MY SANDWICH

>>212590958
I bet she's the best fuck, though

>>212591080
joey pretty much stayed the same, although whether you think thats a good thing or not depends on whether you liked him in the first place

I skip the Richard arc. It's boring.

>>212591206
why did monica have such weird relationships pre-chandler? im pretty sure they had an episode where she banged and then fell in love with a highschooler right before/after richard whos decades older

>>212591161
>joey stayed the same
Not really, he went from being a bit dumb and and uneducated guy to borderline mentally retarded. He had some semblance of intelligence at times, while he was completely retarded by the end

>>212585687 (OP)
Better than their zoomer equivalent

>>212591282
which is?

>>212591300
Big gang bang

>>212591242
Daddy and Mommy issues. Also got indirectly rejected by chandler calling her a whale when she was younger and had a crush on him. So very low self esteem.

>>212590474
Seinfeld also crossed over with Mad About You which indirectly connected it with Friends even though a direct crossover between the two never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HYoHiTzuGE

>>212588940
courteney cox was in an episode before friends started airing. she was the one that pretended to be married to jerry so she could get a discount on dry cleaning

>>212591300
No idea, i just think is better than himym/broklynm 99 and big bang theory

>>212591242
The high schooler told her he was in college to get her in bed. Richard was 21 years older than her. There were also Fun Bobby, who was an alcoholic and turned into Dull Bobby when he quit drinking, and Pete, the tech billionaire played by Jon Favreau who wanted to become a proto-UFC champion. I think those were the only ones that lasted more than one episode.
You can say they're weird I guess, but pretty much every romantic interest outside of the main group was weird in some way.

>>212592366
>The high schooler told her he was in college to get her in bed.
That kind of shit wouldn't hold in court. She should be in prison.

>>212585687 (OP)
Fuck you and Friends.

>>212590854
His season 1 hair is kino

>>212585687 (OP)
It was the peak of 'comfort over comedy' sitcoms and pretty much every one of them that came after ripped this off. BBT was too soulless and HIMYM, while having more hype and being funnier, made the characters progressively douchier to the point it stopped being a good comfort show.

>>212590060
Fuck, that still gets me.

>>212585687 (OP)
What the fuck you're talking about retard. It's the cringiest overrated sitcom.

>>212590986
Brainlet opinion

>>212593522
There's a difference between overrated and overpopular, lots of people like Friends but almost no one rates it very highly compared to shit like Seinfeld or Cheers.

>>212592429
How old was the high schooler? Age of consent in NY is 17, so older high school boys would have been legal.

>>212593907
He was a senior.

>>212585687 (OP)
I haven't watched it since it ended and I remember feeling glad when it ended because it had taken a number of piss poor turns and ended up being very tiresome.
As soon as Monica and Chandler became a thing and Ross and Rachel went nowhere the show floundered.

>>212594560
Ross and Rachel sucked, it was like they took Sam and Diane and removed the self awareness it got from everyone else in the show calling out what a bullshit relationship it was and played it like it was legitimately a good pairing. Then instead of having them be together they made it so that they just continually teased it for the entire fucking series, like seriously they have a kid by the end but they're only together for like 1 season out of 10.

>>212590353
Jack was the best character.

>>212594765
They eventually sucked and that was another reason that the show went to shit. In the end, all of the characters were completely hateable. The show was likely way more popular than they expected it to be so it got way more seasons than it had material for.

>>212595735
>The show was likely way more popular than they expected it to be so it got way more seasons than it had material for.
That's almost definitely what happened yeah.
Them all becoming unlikeable makes me wonder what a full season of that Married With Children parody spinoff would've been like.

>>212595735
All the characters got flanderised but I never noticed until I binge-watched the whole series how much of a colossal bitch Phoebe becomes in the later seasons.

>>212594765
Sam and Diane were boring, unfunny and obsessive. Ross and Rachel actually had chemistry and comedic timing

>>212590783
Jason Alexander was actually funny in this series too

Friends has some decent moments but there are so many terrible storylines and annoying characters. I cant believe it became a cultural phenomenon, and it mystifies me how anyone can find it funnier than Seinfeld or Frasier.

>>212590295
They called him Chandler Bing just to set up this joke 6 seasons in and people think Friends doesn't have good joke writing

>>212597047
>so many terrible storylines and annoying characters
Name 3 of each

>>212597047
>I cant believe it became a cultural phenomenon,
simpler times. back when everything wasn't poisoned by the cancer that is politics people needed less to enjoy life

>>212596946
>Sam and Diane were boring, unfunny and obsessive.
They were obsessive and eventually became boring, but they weren't unfunny. They were also toxic on purpose.
>Ross and Rachel actually had chemistry and comedic timing
They literally broke up because Ross was obsessive and immature about her job leading to some bullshit misunderstanding that caused him to cheat on her.

as soon as Chandler moves out it becomes shit and the only redeeming part is Ross becoming increasingly unhinged, first few seasons are comfy and enjoyable though

>>212597119
>terrible storylines
Basically anything Phoebe did past season 2. Most Joey storylines that don't involve Chandler.
>annoying characters
Phoebe, Janice, Emily, a lot of Rachel/Monica's random dates that show up for one episode.

I like the show btw and prefer it to Seinfeld.

>>212597189
Yeah they were, their entire relationship was: "Me jock and horny." "Me call you retarded jock because me smug, overeducated bitch." Hahaha
>They literally broke up because Ross was obsessive and immature about her job
He cheated on her because he was drunk, the Xerox girl seduced him and he thought she'd cheated on him too. I mean "chemistry" as in they work well off each other as characters both in and out of relationship.

>>212597047
Only jews prefer Seinfeld.

>>212597265
I liked Phoebe's family stories, have to admit I can't remember a lot of Joey-only stories apart from the fun ones like Hombre.
Janice is a riot to me, Phoebe's fine/funny and Emily's supposed to be unlikeable

F*R*I*E*N*D*S completely mogs Sienfeld

Sienfeld is just a bunch of annoying seinfeld jew jokes from the 80s that are almost entirely outdated by now

while

F*R*I*E*N*D*S is like a window into the kino 90s, set new standards in fashion and pop culture, and has timeless relevance

>>212597466
Chandler canonically plays DOOM so he's the best character

>>212597325
>Yeah they were, their entire relationship was: "Me jock and horny." "Me call you retarded jock because me smug, overeducated bitch." Hahaha
It devolved into that after season 3, but even then most of those exchanges were still funnier than 90% of Friends.
>He cheated on her because he was drunk, the Xerox girl seduced him and he thought she'd cheated on him too.
Their relationship had been strained for several episodes before that, with Ross freaking out about her co-worker and her not having enough time for him. And then they spent the next 80% of the series broken up after that.

Late season Ross is kino

>>212597459
>Emily's supposed to be unlikeable
NTA but I really didn't find her unlikeable so much as she was just underdeveloped for how big her role was.
Nothing she did was really unjustified given how bad Ross fucked up, sitcom misunderstandings aside.

>>212597591
Diane being written out was a godsend given how the show's quality significantly improved by giving the rest more focus. Friends was able to restrain itself by not turning it into the Ross and Rachael Show.
>Their relationship had been strained for several episodes before that
Because he was still shellshocked from his ex-wife and was not mentally prepared for a relationship yet. Funnily enough he becomes better the more fucked his romantic life gets.

>>212597667
It was ultimately a benefit because the actress wanted out anyway. The fact she wanted to destroy his social life by isolating him just so she could marry him was a red flag too

>>212597732
>Diane being written out was a godsend given how the show's quality significantly improved by giving the rest more focus. Friends was able to restrain itself by not turning it into the Ross and Rachael Show.
This I definitely agree with, also the romance angle between Rebecca and Sam fizzling out was 100% the best thing for both of their characters.
>Because he was still shellshocked from his ex-wife and was not mentally prepared for a relationship yet. Funnily enough he becomes better the more fucked his romantic life gets.
I always sort of saw it as him just being immature about relationships in general. He hadn't had to start a relationship since college, and got married pretty quick after, so he never had to learn what dating a woman with a real career he wasn't already married to was like.

>>212597466
ok now i've officially fapped to windows 95

>>212587259
kwab

>>212597789
>The fact she wanted to destroy his social life by isolating him just so she could marry him was a red flag too
She was trying to divorce him though, he was the one who insisted they do whatever it take both for them to get married and for her to move to New York.
Her asking that he stop hanging out with a woman he was very clearly lying about being in love with isn't that crazy a thing to ask outside of the context of their weird bullshit friendgroup.

This show nose dives the season Rachel has the baby.

>>212597957
>I always sort of saw it as him just being immature about relationships in general.
He'd gone on dates before he met Rachel and got semi-serious with Julie before they broke up. He just has a lot of personal insecurities and he confronted some of them during his time with Emily

>>212598097
>He just has a lot of personal insecurities and he confronted some of them during his time with Emily
I've never noticed that before but damn your right. Him confronting Emily's paranoia about him and Rachel is actually a pretty good parallel to the paranoia he had about Mark when he and Rachel first dated.

>>212598048
Ross on some unconscious level knew he didn't love her even if he wasn't aware of it. Emily knew what it meant for him to just stop seeing one of his five closest friends and move away, and that was the last straw for Ross

>>212598173
I just meant that episode where Emily and Susan became friends but yeah, that too

Well?

>>212585706
SPBP

>>212598403
Hugh Laurie settled this on the plane. They were indeed on a break.

>>212598403
ross was in the wrong
being on a break = taking the time off to figure if you still want to be together
breaking up = no rules apply and you get to fuck other people

>>212598403
I honestly blame the whole thing on Mark. He knew for a fact that Ross was paranoid about him and still basically invited himself over to Rachel's apartment immediately after hearing they had a big fight. Given that he asked Rachel out pretty shortly after they broke up, it's pretty clear he knew exactly what he was doing and probably even suspected how Ross would react if he saw him there.

I just rewatched that whole thing like 2 weeks ago.

>>212598722
Like you wouldn't be in Rachel's apartment if you heard her dipshit boyfriend was on his way out.

>>212598838
Worth it or not it's a scumbag move and he basically proved Ross right for worrying about it. He 100% caused that shit.

>>212598979
I like how he got fat and less attractive later on too

>>212590808
>Chandler was too handsome S1, so they gave him a bad haircut thereafter
>Monica somehow aged in reverse
>Ross and Joey never really changed
>S1 and S5 Phoebe were smokin’ hot, the rest she looked meh
>Rachel just looked hot in pretty well all seasons

>>212599717
Chandler's ProJared hair was not a good look imo

>>212585687 (OP)
Nope, dogshit. Fuck off.

>back in 1997 I was fresh out of college with a good job and living in an apartment with my best friend
>we used to buy weed out of the back of a tire shop, pickup a pizza and then get high and watch the new Friends episode premier on Thursday nights

Sad to say it but without a doubt my life peaked back then.

>>212600454
You're like 50, LMFAO. Get off of this website.

>>212600454
Wholesome

>>212600454
destroyed own brain with weed award

>>212585687 (OP)
>I'm tired of pretending

KYS, pretender.

>>212587259
>>212587285
lol

>>212598403
It was definitely a breakup, even Rachel considered it to be a breakup, since she told Monica that she broke up with Ross and when she got back together with him she did it by asking him "Can I be your girlfriend again?"

>>212588940
"We're not joiners." -Larry and Jerry

NBC had a "NYC Blackout" night on their Thursday "Must See TV" lineup where since all 4 sitcoms took place in NYC, they wanted all plots one week to share this power outage.

The other three were on board but the Seinfeld gang refused. Which was smart. They worked so much harder on their scripts.
Their code for the show and its characters was "No hugging, no learning."

That's why I love Seinfeld above all others.

>>212589749
It was lowest common denominator trash comedy. That's all.

>>212590420
You didn't just love her "funky weirdness"? The smelly cat song?? What's wrong with you?

>>212590808
They should have kept the monkey.

>>212602031
>They worked so much harder on their scripts.
Too bad it was writing wasted on four dickhead characters who are incapable of change or growth

>>212597066
That's not good joke writing. There's no way that's why he was named that. No one plants a seed for a payoff six years late. No sitcom expects to be on that long.
You're a retard.

>>212597466

kek, what a fucking idiot. Friends will never come close to having the cultural cache of a Seinfeld. That's a fact.

>>212589203
I like to pretend this is right before George becomes a depressed old man playing chess in the park.

>>212602321
lol, if you're looking for 'change or growth' in fucking SITCOM characters, you're in the wrong medium. Go watch some movie.

>>212589255
Wtf? I really don't know what you mean.

>>212602497
>if you're looking for 'change or growth' in fucking SITCOM characters, you're in the wrong medium.
You get that in Cheers, Frasier, Roseanne and Friends, retard. Just because Seinfeld intentionally avoids it and suffers for it doesn't make it somehow impossible for characters in sitcoms to grow and change

>>212590194
Cheesecake in a cheesecake scene
Genius!

>>212588940
Larry David didn't even like the Kramer cameo in Mad about you, iirc there's an episode where Susan tells George about having taped mad about you, which means the show exists in Seinfeld, thus establishing they are not in a shared universe. No Idea how true this is, some anon posted about it in a seinfeld thread ages ago.

They aren't. Larry David never liked this and obliterated this forced crossover (that he never liked) by Susan's calling George to bed by "George, come on, I taped "Mad About You"" indicating that as far as Seinfeld's universe is concerned the characters of "Mad About You" don't exist there

>>212590474
Crazy how the cousin in mad about you is in to live and die in la.

>>212590060
Ross had the best physical comedy on the show

>>212590941
That show cougartiwn was hilarious and witty.

>>212602820
The guy playing his dad's amazing too

>>212602661
This false sense of superiority feels really desperate and pathetic. It's almost like Jew boy's a petty bitch

>>212602905
agreed, there's a reason they're the only parents that get frequent episodes. Even the mother had some funny lines being a bitch to Monica.

>>212603067
Rachel's parents are pretty good too. Two Parties works because her dad's so sick of Ross's shit

>>212600454
that sense of freedom right when you get your own place but also before you realize how much shit you'll have to put up with as an adult, that's the sweet spot. Being in college as the internet started to have accessible stuff on it must have been fun.

>>212602380
I think they always had it in the back of their mind. You can't prove otherwise unless you ask the writers.

>>212603119
I didn't enjoy her parents as much, the father is pretty funny in that episode though I'll give you that.

>>212585687 (OP)
Okay?

>>212585687 (OP)
My brother decided to watch the show.
Then my sister decided to watch it like a month later.
Somehow I was present for the majority both times.
It's not funny aside from a few peak moments. It's barely even entertaining. The only reason to watch it is if you want to watch decent looking white people in a friend/drama simulator. And 2/5 of the cast is jewish.

>>212592429
Seinfeld did that shit IRL

>>212603585
>The only reason a maladjusted retard like me would watch it is the skin color of the actors
FIFY

>>212602380
Seinfeld is one of the unfunniest shows of all time. Badly written as well

>>212594047
Looked like he was older than her though

>>212604181
Because he's an actor in a show

>>212604196
I know. Pick an actor who looks younger than he is. Plenty of those around.

>>212585687 (OP)
Name a genuinely funny Friends bit that isn't either:
>Ross pretending to watch TV, or
>Joey pushing Ross into his fridge
You can't

>>212604391
a lot of the lighter episodes had funny bits in them

>>212604391
>"That opens my cervix"
>Chandler in the ATM vestibule
>Ross falls into a grave
>Funeral football game
>The funeral football game
>"Tit for tat"
>Jon Lovitz on marijuana
>Nubbin
Off the top of my head, and this is just season 1/2

>>212585706
to be fair, you have to be extremely intelligent to understand 'mattspeak'

>>212605384
Wrote one twice because I'm retarded

I'm always surprised by the amount of zoomers I encounter in daily life who are huge fans of Friends, when they never even lived through it, the way I did.

>>212604684
PIVOOOOOOOOT

MY..SANDWICH??

>>212605447
eh, there's plenty of anons doing the same here with 70s and 80s shows or movies. I'm suprised Friends had this much staying power though, I really thought it'd stay within the 90s gen.

Conan totally banged Lisa Kudrow

>>212605696
>I really thought it'd stay within the 90s gen.
The next 2 major sitcoms being blatant ripoffs probably helped.

>>212585706
this desu

>>212605696
It's still funny after all these years and the characters are memorable.

>>212605907
That 70s Show and Big Bang Theory?

>>212585687 (OP)
its one of the most retarded shit i've ever seen, and iḿ not a fucking zoomer, Friends is for stupid people, every fucking character is stupid beyond belief.

>>212590060
This is good.

>>212604391

I like the one when Gary Oldman spits all over Joey, the one with Joey speaking french, the one when Phoebe moves with Rachel and complains about Pottery barn, the one where Ursula does porn, the one where they play that question game betting the apartment, the whole Monica X Richard relationship, the one where Joey has to keep Chandler and Monica´s secret... The one where Joey´s tailor is a very bad man to Chandler.

I believe there is enough to like in the show. IDK if 10 seasons worth but enough to justify at least watching specific episodes.

>>212598403
The break is irrelevant. He didn't sleep with that girl because they were on a break, he slept with that girl because he thought Rachel was sleeping with Mark. He was wrong about that, but it's what he thought when he overheard Mark in the apartment over the phone and that's what pushed him to sleep with that girl. The girl also totally took advantage of his emotional state and he was drinking but I guess that excuse doesn't work for men.
Either way "I thought you cheated first" doesn't make for a good catchphrase, so they made him latch onto the break thing for cheap laughs.

>>212606603
I meant HIMYM and BBT.

>>212589060
The brown nerd in TBBT was an asshole and a loser. Not exactly DEI.

>>212585705
fpbp came here to say this

>>212589060
The writers obviously hated writing for Raj because he stays a lonely, pathetic asshole for the bulk of the series

>>212604391

I've never watched Friends. Is it good?

>>212607146
He was the only one who didn't get a happy end. Even fucking Stewart got one.

>>212606937
Oh yeah, I never watched either. 70's Show was bretty good.

>>212607374
Stewart gets a spinoff too, he's a much more likeable loser

>>212607713
>Stewart gets a spinoff too
Well, he's not an asshole. Raj is. He is rude quite often and doesn't have anything likeable about him.