On one hand, it really is everything a Superman movie should be and feels like a breath of fresh air after the the shitty Snyderverse. Hoult is a surprisingly effective Luthor. I also love Gardner. I love Mr. Terrific. I love Krypto. I love Pa and Ma Kent for once, I loved the Silver Age feel with some sci-fi elements.

On the other hand though, it is still a capeshit film in 2025, and the film feels too packed. It feels like we are constantly movie with little time to breathe. There aren't enough quiet moments to just spend time to get to know the characters. Fun movie, but it isn't like it is going to save cinema like some are acting.

>>212632259 (OP)
>the film feels too packed
it's better on a second viewing. the pacing is actually really good, its just that we're not used to capeshit starting in medias res.

It performing well domestically and performing poorly overseas proves this is a USA movie.

>>212632259 (OP)
Gunn’s humor actually isn’t terrible but its placement is terrible. He can’t let moments sit sometimes. We don’t need a quip in every scene. The scene with Clark’s dad didnt have any quips and it was excellent.

It performing well domestically and performing poorly overseas proves this is a Latinx movie.

>>212632341
it really wasn't very quippy. most of the comedy was situational.

>>212632327
I actually liked that it started medias res on first viewing. My problem, is that I feel like we barely got to know someone like Jimmy Olsen. He never really spent time with Clark I have a feeling some of his scenes were cut to keep the pacing up.

After all, this film went under massive reediting in the final lead up to release. Only two months ago, they were still dividing up segments of the movie with "Monday", "Tuesday", etc. title cards.

Lex is a complete piece of shit in this movie and got everything that was coming to him. Yet, I couldn't help but feel bad for him in the end. I think this proves that I feel too bad for people who would kill me if they get the chance. I need to work on removing that from my personality.

>>212632259 (OP)
>the film feels too packed
I don't get this, there is one plot Lex plan and everything flows from there

>>212632341
I didn't really laugh at all in this movie, but maybe I am just too used to superhero humor at this point.

post the big titty webm

>>212632259 (OP)
I need more moments with Clark Kent

>>212632259 (OP)
>On one hand, it really is everything a Superman movie should be

The Final Word

>>212632259 (OP)
almost perfect review anon
>>212632332
naw I think just everyone in the world hates trump right now

>>212632332
>Movie flops overseas
>Hollywood has to cater to burger exclusively to hold onto that market
>Worst is maybe some diversity bullshit but not too hard as they can't afford to piss every burger off
>No more China apologyslop
GOOD END

>>212632483
>I think this proves that I feel too bad for people who would kill me
Lex Luthor isn't real

>>212633278
Finally. Superman acts like he does in the comics.

>>212634217

>>212634254

>>212633278
>Character has his mouth open
I....
I didn't know THIS was in the movie...

>>212632259 (OP)
>Hoult is a surprisingly effective Luthor
He comes off as a weak effeminate bitch, instead of a smug, cold, intelligent, envious prick. It's probably a script/director problem. Haven't watched anything else with him in it. Only remotely Lex thing he did was fucking shoot the pajeet in the head.

>>212633753
>naw I think just everyone in the world hates trump right now
Can't help yourself, can't you?

>>212634446
What the... It was literally Luthor ripped from the modern comics, He was hateful and a pathetic jealous fuck but calculating. His monologue was perfect

>>212634525
Anon! Hes supposed to play with jolly ranchers! Didn't you see BVS? The actually good adaptation??

>>212632412
I don't get the impression that the sequence of events changed. the story made sense, it didn't feel like a movie that got subjected to reshoots like most Marvel films.

I feel like the Lois/Clark dynamic needed one more scene where Lois really reconsiders her view on their relationship into something more positive. It went from “I’m thinking about breaking up with him” to “I love you too” without her admitting that to herself first. Really, I think Gunn missed an opportunity to have her admit something like that while she was venting to Mr Terrific.

>>212634446
>effeminate
you take that back!

>>212634616
The sequences didn't change, but I do think a lot of scenes and jokes were cut from the final film, for better or worse.

>>212634446
He was a bit effeminate, but I still thought it was very intense, smug, cold, intelligent, and envious. Obviously, Clancy Brown is the ideal Luthor, but short of that, I think Hoult did a good job.

>>212634621
>I’m thinking about breaking up with him
I thought it was crazy she was thinking about it at all. All over one fight? It felt unearned.

>>212634571
Don't twist my words.

>>212634525
He just wasn't remotely intimidating, every movement and all the lines he had were despicable in the wrong way. I guess the fighting game command shit was alright, but the monologue at the end of the movie was just fucking awful, it felt so canned and forced.

>>212634777
They had zero chemistry, it was similar to Adams/Cavill. Could easily be blamed on the script, though, since we only got like 2 fucking Clark scenes in total. Really just a letdown of a movie. Probably could've been fixed if they didn't force the Justice Gang so hard. They easily could've come at the end. The whole goddamn film was basically in the trailers.

>>212634886
>Adams/Cavill
I don't think it was nearly that bad lmao, but I do think only getting a small # of Clark scenes hurt the film substantially.

The thing is that I loved the Justice Gang, but they came at the expense of Lois and Superman's best pal, Jimmy Olsen.

>>212633278
>Mfw I see some heckin chugus funko pop's

>>212632357

>>212632327
>Actually see it 8 times to really understand it
Uppercut yourself faggot Pedowood shill

>>212634525
>It was literally Luthor ripped from the modern comics
Modern comics are ass, they should have played him more like the animated series Luthor

>>212632259 (OP)
>Hoult is a surprisingly effective Luthor
he looks too young and dreamy
very hard to imagine someone like that getting cucked by Jimmy Olsen
i think the best Luthor to date has been Kevin Spacey's

Also, the movie was a quipfest, it felt very mediocre and i think zoomers are only hyping them up for its anti-israel anti-russia stance with that boravian parody

>>212632327
>see it again, I promise it gets better
watched it twice and it was just as bad the second time. The gaslighting and cope for this film is miraculous astonishing kek

>>212632259 (OP)
I would have liked the Silver Age feel if it wasn't set in present day. Also he got his ass kicked way too much and there were too many fucking jokes.

>>212635803
It's astroturfed shit.

>>212634982
Justice Gang practically stole the movie from Superman, he's just not charming, interesting, or anything at all. Terrific had way too much fucking screentime. Absurd.

The way Lex was handled, it felt like he was going to pull Krypto from behind the wall and then Supes would go OH YOU! and point at him and roll credits.

>>212636002
But most of the time he got his ass kicked by himself or Kryponite.
Which makes sense.

>>212635790
>very hard to imagine someone like that getting cucked by Jimmy Olsen

You think about cuckoldry a lot, Anon?

>>212636133
are you blaming me for noticing that Luthor is an Elon Musk parody?

>>212632259 (OP)
>feels like a breath of fresh air after the the shitty Snyderverse
To be fair, the Snyderverse was basically the worst thing ever. ANY film would look good compared to that giant pile of shit.

>>212632259 (OP)
The Pocket Universe portion of the plot felt too fantastical even for a comic book movie and especially because it's the first film in this new universe. Like it genuinely felt like shit went off the rails when Element Man appears and Lex Luthor intentionally destroying Metropolis was dumb. How the hell will we ever get a President Lex movie at this point? Maybe the whole Barovia plot would have been way better too if Gunn decided to go for President Lex Luthor, idk

>>212632483
You feel bad for him because the writing is terrible.

>>212635803
It's a good movie though. If you like Superman and not edgy shit
>>212636079
>Justice Gang practically stole the movie from Superman
You mean guy and terrific? Yes they were standouts, Superman was great you're a snyderjeet or smoking crack he was charming and cute but i wished he was more badass at the end, its not his fault Gunn wanted to make him soo vulnerable looking

>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8YCSJpF4g4
Kino song for a beatdown...

>>212636186
Elon Musk wishes he was 1/10th as cool as Nick in this movie lol

>>212636186
You don't gonna believe who he was a parody of since the 80s...

>>212638096
if you rewatch the film Supes actually outsmarts Lex hard during the suffocation scene and then is mostly only stuggling because he keeps trying to engage Lex to find out why he hates him, giving Ultraman a chance to land sucker punches.

>>212632327
Third viewing is best. Though a fourth or fifth wouldn't hurt!

>>212632259 (OP)
>a breath of fresh air
>5 live action series
>multiple movies
air is stale and full of farts

>>212638244
Most people can't afford to do that.

>>212638096
>Superman was great you're a snyderjeet or smoking crack
Reeves mogs him hard, he just wasn't charming at all. MoS has nothing to do with this one being shit btw, calling eberyone who disagrees a snyder fan or a jeet is pretty pathetic.

>>212634777
>I thought it was crazy she was thinking about it at all. All over one fight? It felt unearned.
It is the nature of women. You can be literally Superman and they'll wonder if this is the best they can get.

>>212639177
>calling eberyone who disagrees a snyder fan or a jeet is pretty pathetic.
It's all they got.

>>212632412
Yeah I looked up that really cool Lex scene and just left wondering “why’d he wearing a tuxedo here?” Probably from a cut scene.

Can I get a link to the camrip?

>>212632341
you didn't watch the movie, list all the quips

>>212639572
Not him but the shit about Clark being into Fallout Boy or whatever was stupid. Still enjoyed the film.

>>212638079
there is nothing in the film that suggests Luthor should be empathized with

>>212639651
that's not a quip

>>212639177
David Supes was charming in a warm in a boyscout way without a hint of cynicism, Obviously he is not the same Superman who turned Lois into jelly at first date, they wanted something different it worked

The movie lacks a certain reverence for Superman. The scene with all the people chanting Superman before they fight is great, but there's very little otherwise where people are chanting and cheering Superman on, which is quintessential when telling a Superman story. They evacuated Metropolis and made it a horrifically sterile fight locale.

>>212632332
Good. They can stop pandering to chinks and jeets then.

>>212639486
I hope they release an extended cut so we can see how they changed things.

>>212632327
>Second viewing
>Buy the ticket again for the show goyim! We promise you'll have fun this time
>And if you don't then see it on a third viewing
Desperation from the hollyjew.

>>212639023
yeah, they're called Nazis and they hate America. You don't HATE America do you anon?

>>212638154
It wasn't bad

I liked when he freed Palestine

>>212632259 (OP)
Hawkgirl and lois lane had me eye-rolling on scenes typical 2025 annoying female characters
But Eve was cute and Cat had too little screentime

>>212632259 (OP)
>What if we made a Superman movie where Superman was a useless background character that is treated like a literal joke

>>212632259 (OP)
>On one hand, it really is everything a Superman movie should be
This is such a fucking forced meme, it's not anywhere near a Superman film. His Clark Kent doesn't even try to behave differently to Superman, he just has glasses and broccoli hair. He doesn't behave as Superman should, he keeps saying "dude" and shouting in people's faces. He's constantly getting beaten up, and at no point do you feel like he has a situation under control. There's no sense of purity and hope from him. The only time he could've felt actually heroic, he gets replaced by a pensioner with a bowl cut creating giant middle fingers, no class at all. The other threat of the black hole gets dealt with by a black dude with a T on his face. The dog constantly appears to ruin the vibe. Lex Luthor could've been a kino villain, but instead hired the most onions-looking slenderman loser they could, who just acted like a child throughout the whole thing. And then a pointless "cameo" of some weird girl being a whore Supergirl. It all just feels like The Suicide Squad again.

I'm so fucking sick of shills pushing these films, I fucking love Superman but we've not had a good Superman film since Christopher Reeve.

>>212642042
Didn't happen.

Pocket universe rift that destroys a city without killing anyone, cringe unfunny justice gang, silly kaiju that looks like a kids toy, annoying Indian that we’re supposed to care about, annoying bitch Lois berating Superman about saving people, cheap knockoff of black noir Ultraman, hamfisted attempt at political commentary with Ukraine/Russia stand-ins, cheap CGI and weird fish eye camera lens, Jor-El is an alien with a rape fetish, cringe music sequences that go on too long, CGI dog that has far too much screen time and takes away from Superman being the hero, choppy editing and uninspired score. Apart from that it was alright.

>>212639937
He was more boy than scout, his saving everything just felt more like a direct answer to MoS than actually doing it for the sake of it. The whole movie felt like it was only doing things 180 to that, like it was desperately crying "look guys it's opposite". Too meta, not enough care put into the film because it feels like 4 scrapped movies shoved into one.

>>212632259 (OP)
Was adding two irrelevant post-credit scenes, part of Gunn's plan?

>>212632259 (OP)
Too much bad CGI.
It's killing movies.

>>212644046
Stop seeing everything as an attack on snyder "Superman is a good person who wears his heart on his sleeve" "this must be to spite snyder!" Shut up already jesus is just gunn take on the character.
>4 scrapped movies shoved into one.
Not really, the movie had one plot: lex luthor plan

>>212635402
pretty close to realistic demographic off the usa

They way they handled Lex really gives me the impression they’re gonna finish with All-Star where he finally develops an understanding of what Clark goes through by gaining his powers

>>212644263
The thing wasn't made in a vacuum. This movie is a direct response. Worse than Whedon, with his shitty humor, Gunn tackles this task with breakneck speed and no stakes. Yes, we get it, he wanted to own the chuds that liked those other movies. I don't particularly like snyderman, but this shit is no good either.

>>212636186
>elon musk
>fat & pasty
>terminally online south african
>obsessed with white genocide
Quacks like a cuck, it's a cuck

MY UNBIASED REVIEW
The movie itself is fine. It's definitely a course correction overall. Gunn should just be a writer though. The directing was easily the worst part of the movie followed by the overpacking of characters and extremely hit and miss humour.
There were several directorial choices that almost actively take you out of the film
>the weird 3 decades, 3 years, 3 months, 3 days motif
>the constant overexposure (must be due to heavy CGI being added in post) that makes everyone look albino... Lois really suffered from this at points
>some of the more unorthodox whip pan shots that race from one character to another character as they all stand in a circle and speak... makes it feel like it was made for tv
In fact, that might actually be it, the whole thing has this expensive Smallville feel to it that definitely comes across as amateur at points. Some of the tv director decisions land, like watching Mr T dance and fight from Lois' POV in the bubble... .but most of them don't land and fall flat
The humour is borderline bad at points... off the top of my head
>Jimmy Goblin being a "stud"
>Everything to do with the tik tok thot dating Lex (Eve?) she is probably the weakest actor in the whole thing
>Hawkgirl screeches are extremely awkward
>Jimmy's rejections were funny like once or twice but shouldn't take up nearly 10 minutes of the entire run time
>Krypto doing the "puny God" routine
>Lex being a borderline incel
>The really weird subplot with the ballerina in the cabin in the woods cage
>The gay moustache journalist from the Daily Planet permaraging
Actually bar Lois, the casting for the DP was pretty awful. Not that they are individually bad actors, but they all lacked any genuine chemistry. Could say the same about Moner. Whereas Fillion and Mr T work well together. Metamorpho was another serious miss.
The music in the film is good however they need to actually go all out on the score.

Overall a 6/10. If you love supershit it'll probably be a 7 for you.