Which Ingmar Bergman kino should I start with?

persona

fanny and alexander

Seventh Seal

>>212634846 (OP)
Ingmar admitted that dozens of times and it was clearly just a juvenile fascination

Virgin Spring

>>212635108
Thank you for clearing this up, anon.

>>212634846 (OP)
>Start With:
Wild Strawberries
The Seventh Seal
Smiles of a Summer Night

>I like the historical settings
Virgin Spring
The Magician

>I like the melodrama
Through a Glass Darkly
Winter Light
The Silence
Shame
Autumn Sonata

>Gimme more of the surrealism!
Persona
Hour of the Wolf

>Give me one that blends surrealism with melodrama
Cries and Whispers
Fanny and Alexander (watch this one last)

>I've seen all of classic Bergman, what are some of his greatest underrated films.
Serpent's Egg
The Touch

>>212634909
>>212634968
>>212635002
zoomers listing the only bergman movies they've seen

>>212635618
he didn't ask for multiple just where to start you illiterate moron

>>212634846 (OP)
I was told chuds couldn’t create art

>>212634846 (OP)
Wild Strawberries and Seventh Seal

>>212634846 (OP)
wait, stellan skarsgard was alive when hitler died? is he 110 or what?

>>212635659
Bergman was a Nazi when he was a little kid because Nazis had fun things to do like Hitler youth, and it was the norm for the kids around him (he spent summers in Germany) to idolize Hitler. He wasn’t a true believer

>>212635697
Maybe Literally Hitler didn't die in 1945...

>>212634846 (OP)
Correction, he used to be a nazi when he was younger.
>The director also acknowledged his past Nazi sympathies in his 1987 memoir The Magic Lantern: “For many years, I was on Hitler’s side, delighted by his success and saddened by his defeats.” He told Boëthius that he maintained support for the Nazis until the end of the war, when the exposure of Nazi atrocities in the Holocaust changed his views. “When the doors to the concentration camps were thrown open,” he said, “I was suddenly ripped of my innocence.” Bergman went on to explore anguish over the horrors of war in such films as Winter Light, The Silence and Shame.

>>212634846 (OP)
and this is the same Stellan that laughed his balls off when Lars von Trier was making Hitler jokes at Cannes? desu, pretty disappointing, ngl

And Kurosawa had a far-right ideology and a private militia, for the purpose of protecting the dignity of the emperor as a symbol of national identity. And Tarkovsky was a scoundrel who treated everyone with malice. So what?

>>212634846 (OP)
Holy fuck Stellan Skarsgard is LITERALLY Hitler

>>212636047
No, in the full interview he's saying he dislikes Bergman.

>>212635997
>And Kurosawa had a far-right ideology and a private militia, for the purpose of protecting the dignity of the emperor as a symbol of national identity
This is the first time I read this. Source?

>>212635997
>And Tarkovsky was a scoundrel who treated everyone with malice
meds

>>212635773
>idolizing Hitler and crying when he died at 27 doesn’t make you a Nazi
>supporting deporting illegal immigrants does

>>212634846 (OP)
I have seen
>Persona
>Fanny and Alexander
>7th Seal
>Wild Strawberries
I liked Wild Strawberries the best.

Also why did all 4 of those movies have a cucking subplot?

>>212636212
Did you read his diary? The guy was a neurotic asshole.

>>212636212
the guy openly wrote in his diary that he whipped his step-daughter

>>212636446
hot

>>212636446
and?

>>212636328
If you aren’t a member of the Nazi party or the SS you aren’t a Nazi. You might be a fascist or be sympathized to Nazism but “Nazi” is a an overused and dead identifier. Same with Bolshevik which doesn’t exist anymore as all the OG Bolsheviks are dead.

>>212636446
based

>>212636505
>If you aren’t a member of the Nazi party or the SS you aren’t a Nazi.
you should tell the democrats about this because they label pretty much everyone whom they dont like as a nazi

>>212636505
So fascists are capable of making great art?

>>212636559
I don’t give a fuck about Amerimutt politics

>>212634846 (OP)
What are other directors who were Nazis and/or hard right leaning and made good movies?

>>212635647
telling someone to start with fanny and alexander... you've only seen fanny and alexander
rope yourself

>>212634846 (OP)
hour of the wolf

>>212636069
tbf almost every person who met Bergman disliked him, especially his wives

>>212635997
>Kurosawa
Wtf? You mean Mishima right?

>>212636688
this isn't a movie theater, you should stop your projecting

>>212636915
>Mishima
He was a huge fag tho

>>212636656
sam peckinpah

victor fleming

yukio mishima

mel gibson

walt disney

john woo

>>212636915
yeah he fucked up, kurosawa was a huge leftie in his youth
https://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/culture/kurosawa.htm

>>212636656
according to chatgpt: roman polanski

>>212636821
>black and white slop

>>212637211
Yeah, AI is fucking retarded.

>>212637112
>sam peckinpah
>walt disney
>john woo
these are not nazis or hard right leaning at all

>>212634846 (OP)
all of it

>>212634846 (OP)
??
Was Skaarsgard there with Bergman in 1945 when Hitler died?

>>212636656
john millius

>>212637297
Retard.

>>212635108
He has to lie because Hitler appears more right everyday. That doesn't go unnoticed.

>>212637444
John Woo is a fucking bugman, they can't be far-right

>>212634846 (OP)
>born 1951
>Hitler died in 1945
So he was six years old, when he met Bergman?

The Bergman box set from Criterion worth copping?

>>212637515
John Woo?

>>212637570
Guy who made Hard Boiled (1992). He is an outspoken Christian.

>>212635773
He apparently still fondly talked about Nazis years after WW2. Cried when Hitler died. It was more than just “oh I liked them as a kid because you got to dress up”.

>>212637465
Leave anyone/anything to think for himself with no emotional manipulation, and the conclusion is always the same.

>>212637515
Woo is still a brillant director in spite of the gay cowboy movie.

>>212636656
Robert A Heinlein was a sci-fi writer who was also a nazi in the 1940s. When the makers of Starship Troopers (one of his works) learned of this, they shit the bed. Heinrich Harrer was a German explorer in search for Shangri-La. Hollywood even made a movie about it starring Brad Pitt called "Seven Years in Tibet." Harrer himself? Actually a nazi doing that nazi-cult thing with trying to consolidate the reich with supernatural powers by seeking out lost treasures. Brad Pitt would like to forget that he starred as Harrer and depicted him positively.

>>212637116
People can like Mishima’s work and still think he was a fascist weirdo.

>>212637715
>Robert A Heinlein was a sci-fi writer who was also a nazi
>He explicitly made the case for using his fiction not only to predict the future but also to educate his readers about the value of racial equality and the importance of racial tolerance.[97]
Um, what?

>>212637727
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>212637715
>Heinrich Harrer was a German explorer in search for Shangri-La.

He was a mountain climber who was arrested in India by the British authorities when WW2 started and then as a POW he escaped to Tibet. He had Nazi membership and military rank but he didn’t participate in any battles and was cleared of any pre-war related crimes in Nazi Germany. He wasn’t a Nazi occultist and his writings have never shown such views

>>212637957
sounds like he got away with being a nazi

>>212637811
>Does he know?

>>212637715
>Hollywood even made a movie about it starring Brad Pitt called "Seven Years in Tibet."
What's funny is that Harrer was Austrian so in this movie when he sets off to go to Tibet the German Nazi journalists tells him he's the pride of Germany or whatever and he's like "actually I'm Austrian" meanwhile the real Harrer was a German nationalist who was already a member of the Austrian NSDAP when it was still illegal.

Hollywood stuff.

>>212638075
I don't, please explain. Also where is the proof he was a Nazi in the 40s?

>>212636394
>Also why did all 4 of those movies have a cucking subplot?
Look up what country Bergman is from.

>>212637619
He talked fondly about his time in Germany and how he viewed Hitler as a messiah figure. he said he was so horrified and disgusted by the Hellacaust that at first he didn’t believe Hitler could do such a thing.

>>212638290
but he's not american

>>212637715
>Woo is still a brillant director in spite of the gay cowboy movie.
Wrong chink. Cowboy Buttsex is Crouching Tiger guy.