What am I in for?
I love Western movies.

games so slow they'd make a snail bored

>>212657590 (OP)
Greater than anything Hollywood has produced in the last 20 years.

>>212657590 (OP)
Once you get to free roam you're going to spend 500 hours hunting and fishing and never actually play the story. And Jeremiah Johnson is the closest thing to that I can think of.

>>212657590 (OP)
The first one is up there in best the Western stories ever. The second one is shit story wise and almost ruins the first game. It focuses too much on the time period to tell a genuinely good story and Arthur Morgan is an awful main character. The second one is great gameplay wise albeit pretty slow in movement. The Hunting in the second game is genuinely pretty fun and the gun fighting is also pretty fun. The story is just fucking meandering pointless garbage. Play the first one for the story, play the second one for the gameplay

>>212657819
This 100%

>>212657590 (OP)
RDR2 is a rip-off of the movie "The Assassination of Jesse James" so you already know the plot.

>>212657819
The story of rdr2 is fucking stellar, what are you smoking and can I have some

>>212657590 (OP)
about 70 hours of pushing forward on a gamepad

>>212657819
Also the second one has no Mexico section which automatically makes it worse

>>212657590 (OP)
>I love Western movies.
you'll like it then as the devs have just used every good scene from the western classics and just thrown them in the game, continuity be damned.

>>212657819
>and Arthur Morgan is an awful main character
>aww youre probably right i am a bad guy i done bad things i respect women they better men then us sometimes and also people of all races, us white folk should just step aside and make room for them and the homosexuals if a man wants to call himself a woman then who am i to judge but yeah i done killt a few men i should probably just die

>>212657590 (OP)
You should be aware that Sarah Gadon is starring in an upcoming Western film called Flint.

>>212657874
the cuba chapter kinda sucks, come on now

>>212657874
Arthur Morgan and his story is far less compelling then John's in the first. His whole character arc is him getting a disease from doing something morally bad then realizing Dutch is a crazy dangerous leader and then doing next to nothing about it. They literally could've done that same story with a younger John minus the disease. Instead they make John an annoying retard instead of his more stoic self from the second game. Which could've worked if you got to play as him and see him grow as a person but noooo let's replace him with a literal nothing character that was never even mentioned in the first game. Also all the camp stuff and new characters was insanely forced and cringe and ruined the vague background it got from the first game. Never did I think while playing Red Dead 1 that Dutch's group was a hippie cult that treated each other like a family. I understand why they would do that, to make it even more heartbreaking when it falls apart, but all the forced wholesomeness it had was fucking cringe and did not fit with the tone of the first game at all. There are some good stuff in the 2nd game's story, I liked the house building mission, but overall it's a pointless nothing of a story that ruins the tone and mystery of the first game.

>>212657590 (OP)
Pretty incredible games if you like the GTA series but with horses and revolvers. Just remember 2 puts this super heavy emphasis on TECHNOLOGY and has all these super long detailed animations which while very cool, by hour 20 get real old. So if you start hunting and skinning animals park your horse on top of whatever you need to skin and you'll get this not as fancy faster skinning animation.

>Why would you skip such a detailed and well thought out animation?
Cause I've seen it over a thousand times and no, it doesn't "never get old".

>>212658001
That's like 1 hour of a 300 hour game.

>>212657590 (OP)
These games are leagues ahead

>>212657590 (OP)
First one is nostalgic, hence why it’s enjoyable

Second one is fake gamergirl playthrough reaction walking simulator

>>212658161
I doubt you've played either game based on that post lol

>>212658104
>and then doing next to nothing about it
Are you kidding me? He gave them a horse once he was already pretty much dead.

>>212658001
>>212658104
Shit ... I don't have any arguments. You guys are right. Please forgive me.

>>212658161
I’ve played both, you probably played the second one first like every zoom zoom faggot who sucks off the sequel

>>212657590 (OP)
the first one is excellent but the second one while it starts out pretty good was the beginning of the trend of 'cinematic' games becoming too self-indulgent and overwritten with cutscenes strung together by samey rail shooter missions and MMO style grind-a-thons but without the audience of online plebs.

>>212657590 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvdxwBoVh1k
This is the best Western movie I have ever seen. It just gets better and better.

>>212658114
>try to skin animal
>mount your horse

>>212658104
You're just objectively wrong.

>>212657590 (OP)
Get the zombie expansion for the first RDR to get zombie kino on top of western kino.

Remember, rdr2-defending retards

>>212657819
>The second one is great gameplay wise

>try to the flank the enemy by going around the shootout from the side
>mission is failed and restarted because YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT, ALRIGHT, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COVER BEHIND CHEST-HIGH WALLS!!

>>212658147
Where the fuck is the best one?

And I don’t mean 5

>>212658351
San Andreas, Vice City, and Vice City Stories is already there

>>212658351
Not only is that picture dubious but to claim Liberty City or Vice City stories are somehow better then RD1 or 2 is completely delusional.

I might buy San Andreas. I could understand that I guess.

>go to camp
>drunk obnoxious retard has mission
>slowly follow drunk obnoxious retard on horseback for 10 minute unskippable meandering onrails bullshit
>drunk obnoxious retard does something obnoxious and retarded and pisses off the town
>suddenly go from nothing happening to nonstop army of 100 men trying to kill you because of drunk
>kill them off and save drunk obnoxious retard
>go back to camp
>drunk obnoxious retard number two has a mission for you
>repeat

Terrible fucking game.

>>212658266
There is only one that I'm 100% isn't female. Better than I expected.

>>212657874
Nah it's not nearly as good as RDR. The best part of RDR2 is the epilogue with John because you know where it's heading.

>>212658379
That's the formula for the only video game Rockstar makes now. Seems to work as much as I hate it too.

>>212658378
I was talking about gta IV retard

>>212658266
Yikes, not a single proud black woman of color? No wheelchairs? No one with an emotional support pupper? Do better, Rockstar.

>>212658410
I wasn't saying you said that retard. Stop talking to me.

>>212658442
I misread, don’t get pissy

>>212658378
https://youtu.be/NVClH26IcSM?si=zfzp7QZlGLV5XMXF
>YOU DONT REMEMBER ME DO YOU!?
I've had more fun in Vice City Stories than in either red dead

>>212657590 (OP)
The best 2 games ever made and lots of references to western movies

>>212657590 (OP)
MAY I STAND UNSHAKEN

>>212657590 (OP)
2 is a chore. play the first and move on.

Both are kino.

>Carries your kino with her beauty and grit

>>212658881
Based.

>>212657590 (OP)
first is good, great story, feels like a classic western.
The second is overblown garbage, typical flagship game, no fun allowed, claims to be "free roam" when in actual fact everything is on rails, and the slightest misstep results in a "MISSION FAILED" screen.
Can't run in camp, can't revisit the tropical island, can't rob people in the middle of nowhere without police satellites relaying your coordinates to legions of law enforcement officers that just happen to be camped in the bush.

It's not even an RPG either, there's a karma system, that is utterly meaningless.

This game lends itself heavily towards ludo cognitive dissonance, in so far that nothing you do as the player is reflected back to you.

They claim to need gold, and everyone is poor, so I come back with 4000 USD in cash and dump them in the camp stash, and no one reacts.
We're supposed criminals and robbers, but everyone is meant to feel bad when you go and reclaim money from debtors.
We're supposed to be lead to believe your gang is just a victim of circumstance, they actually all have hearts of gold, but the genocide you commit every single mission begs to differ.

However, it is in a sense perfect: it's the perfect game for people who neither like westerns, nor video games.

>/tv/ chads are RDR1 enjoyers and RDR2 haters
I knew I was amongst fellow patricians. It still continues to baffle me how people enjoy RDR2, it's fucking terrible. And the pinnacle of its story, Arthur's death, was so poorly done and annoying that I found myself muttering "jesus christ just die already dude" while he wheeze-monologued some stupid bullshit.

John's death was much more poignant and well done imo.

>>212658998
>Wrong in EVERY point he tries to make
LMAO.
BETTER STORY, BETTER SOUNDTRACK, BETTER CHARACTERS, BETTER GAMEPLAY.
2 > 1.

>>212657909
I agree with this sentiment. Weird how they decided to "include" the location from the first game, have it be completely deserted, instead of including Mexico.
What is a western without the opportunity for cross-border cattle hustling?

>>212659061
Explain to me how the economy of the game is meant to work, knowing that literally every single NPC has hundreds of dollars of valuables on him.

>>212659056
This, the first is really good (best rockstar game even), the second is shit.

>>212659061
Wrong on all accounts nigga, but I'd expect nothing less from a dumb frogposter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRMtt8tES-U&list=RDhRMtt8tES-U&start_radio=1

>>212659098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP_0yz605Sw

MOGGED.

>>212659084
People say they had to cut a lot of content from Mexico. I can believe it because why go through the trouble of adding that area then do nothing with it?

>>212659178
they had to cut content, because the game was never about the singleplayer.
The same as with GTA 5, they want people playing multiplayer, because that's where they really start to make a profit.

Also 90% of the multiplayer playerbase are utterly vapid retards, so the perfect paypiggies. Void of all taste and common sense.

>>212659221
Look just pay real money for in game currency alright?

>>212658998
>ludo cognitive dissonance
Your mother and father will die in their sleep tonight. No immunities.

>>212657784
i played RDR2 for over 700 hours to get the 100% and i didn't get bored a single minute

>>212659865
basado

>>212659865
Fishing right now.

>>212659865

>>212657590 (OP)
the first isn't even worth it when it's half off on a steam sale but the second is worth every penny and then some if that tells you anything at all

>>212659865
>700 hrs playing a nintendo game

That's going to be a hell of a regret someday. Everyone has different priorities I guess.

>>212659061
>doesn't try to counter any point
>doesn't try to make any new ones
>just spergs and frogposts
Niggerfaggot

>>212657819
A quintessentially /tv/ bad take.

>>212660123
Get a load of this faggot. 1st has a damn good story. 2nd is a decent enough story buried under 50 hours of tedium.

also i am bitter as fuck that arthur didn't wife mary-beth

>>212657590 (OP)

Loved, loved the first one. Felt the second one lost some of the magic, but still great.

>>212658104
>all I want is John's heckin origin story where he delivers smarmy quips in his epic stoic persona

>>212657590 (OP)
Skip 1, 2 is all you need.

>>212657590 (OP)
>RDR1
very solid take on spaghetti westerns and legend of the old west, atmospheric

>RDR2
based on gay historical revision on what lefties think that the west was or ''should be'', plus worse gameplay systems in general that wastes your time with long unskippeable action-animations. Is only liked because it tricks npcs with its technical and visual flair

>>212660441
>skip 1, where you get a good narrative and gameplay
>play 2, where you spend 15 minutes riding in an empty open world between missions to get some retarded story

>>212658104
John was said to be the retarded little brother of the gang and Bill, Javier and Dutch treated him as such in RDR1. No one in either game fears or respects him. If anything they didn't lean far enough into that angle in RDR2
>Never did I think while playing Red Dead 1 that Dutch's group was a hippie cult that treated each other like a family.
because you didn't play it or you skipped the parts where all the former members lament how they were living in lala land in those days and the merry band of thieves shit turned out to be a farce

>>212660441
THIS.

YOU SIR ARE A FISH

The novel thing about RDR is that its set later when the ways of the old West meet civilisation. We see this in Dutch's well read half-baked anarchist philosophies.

Rdr2 is decent but probably better if youve never played Rdr. Rdr2 ruined the lore of the first game and doesnt really make sense. They obviously retconned a few things to flesh out the game. They went from ruthless murderers and robbers to a le heckin morally ambiguous family. Still a great game but nothing on the kino of the first. Morgan is good but a little forced at times. And it’s retarded how they made a character that obviously wouldnt be mentioned in rdr1

>>212658266
Remember what? Some devs are women?

Rockstar's game design is outdated

>>212661060
And yet rdr2 feels like it would come after rdr with all the wacky characters

>>212657590 (OP)
>RDR1
Spaghetti western kino.
>RDR2
Hunting and exploration simulator in the Undead Nightmare universe.
I do enjoy going around and seeing all the myths and mysteries in RDR2 but they could have at least given us some zombies. People don't really bring it up when discussing RDR2 though, but giant in cave, interdimensional timetraveler, glowing pentagram, giant skeleton, ghosts, demonic possessed girl, thor's axe and helmet and vampire etc are all more fit for Undead Nightmare over mainline RDR. I don't know why they decided to merge the two without actually elaborating on it besides Arthur going "huh, that's mighty strange!" and sketching it down.

>>212657590 (OP)
first game excellent that compiled the best shit from every western movie, spaghetti or otherwise, because they had no idea if people would buy it or not... much like GTA3
second game is low effort wokeslop that needs a shitload of space and also this >>212657869
>>212657648
you obviously haven't played a slow game
there is always something to do

>>212661612
>takes 1 sec to turn around

>>212657590 (OP)
a good game and a retarded prequel game with number 2

>>212657909
>Mexico
when you arrived in mexico after that grueling trip and river shooting slop and got taken under the wing of that Sam Elliott lookalike retired gunslinger in that cozy town... top /tv/ moment for me, and apparently it wasn't inspired from any movie either (like 95% of stuff from the game) they just came up with it

>>212657869
The shot for shot copy of thr train robbery scene fromjesse james was really gay

>>212657874
so stellar it ignores blackwater for a retarded oregon trail scape and put 1900s cuban far cry

>>212659061
>you need to be a female or a nigga to appreciate RDR2
thank you for your input

1 true kino with soul
2 enjoyable popcorn slob

>>212661647
more funny that cowboy its so chad that tanked tuberculosis compared to arthur

>>212661576
To add onto this, Undead Nightmare is exactly that, a Nightmare of the Undead. The way Arthur/John acts towards the paranormal and supernatural shit in RDR2 is akin to a dream, not questioning anything and it happening in accordance with everything else. This would also make RDR1 entirely standalone, and RDR2 OCs are exclusively a part of the UN universe instead.

>>212657590 (OP)
>>>/v/

>>212657819
top tier bait

>>212657590 (OP)
I'm fine with movie games but those are TV show games. Far too long and unfocused. RDR1 is much more accomplished both as a game and as a movie ripoff.
RDR2 is full of walk-and-talk slop, totally useless feature creep, overanimated to the point of slowing everything down, and it's the sort of game where you have to restart the mission for going 5 meters off the path the devs intended.

>>212657590 (OP)
kino of the highest order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN48g2WGq2k

>>212661768
>>212661699

Kino of the highest order. People complain about 2 being slow but they're just slow brained retards. The point of the game is the slice of life wilderness stuff, not action like GTA

>>212660391
This basically predicted Reacher.

>>212661777
>Far too long and unfocused.
aside from the last region (which was arguably slammed-together slop) RDR1 could be packed into a 2 hour movie though

>>212661576
Rockstar games have always been filled with creepy surreal shit. Even the first RDR had a ton of weird stuff. Horrible take from a genuine faggot

>>212658998
was this your first ever video game?

>>212661821
Yes the issue is much worse with the second.

>It's another /tv/ takes the contrarian take to be le edgy and le cool guys episode
/thread/

>>212661789
>oh boy, just finished a mission, time to ride mah hoahrse in some graphically pretty wasteland for 3-5 business days to the next mission which is 90% listening to npc's babble while i ride mah hoahrse
riveting gameplay indeed

>>212658881
The most annoying character in the game

>>212657590 (OP)
the first one can be finished in like 10 hours
the second one is a 100+ hour slog

>>212661887
she's annoying in an endearing way imo. like a little sister.

>>212658881
>>212661887
her voice makes my dick hard

>>212661865
yeah sorry misread your post
I became a rabid RDR fan after the PC version came out

RDR2 is the only piece of media to ever change my life. I was in college when it came out and decided to call in sick on release day, I told a girl about my plan and she jokingly asked if she could come over and do the same, and I jokingly said yes.

We've been married 3 years now

>>212661885
I can't imagine being so dumb. The story is enjoyable, easily immersive in betweat plot beats andyou only have to do it once. After that it's unlimited hunting, fishing and sidequests

>>212661930
>MILTON YOU SICK SCUMFUCK PIECE OF SHIT! WHAT'D YOU DO WITH MY TOMBOY!

>>212661966
>Ey girl wanna see horse balls dilating in cold?
>YES, WAIT A SEC IT WAS REAL I WANTED SEX ANYWAY

>>212661930
>That scream when she pulls the knife out her gut

>>212661863
No, why do you ask?

>>212661970
>I can't imagine being so dumb.
i can

>The story is enjoyable, easily immersive in betweat plot beats andyou only have to do it once.
rdr1 has a story that's miles better, and i don't need to take a week off work to enjoy it.

>After that it's unlimited hunting, fishing and sidequests
that's pretty much the only upside you can give rdr2, more "content". and even then, they made the game so oversized that it's all too spread out. rdr1 feels like it has more going on in it's world despite the fact that rdr2 objectively has more side content.

>>212657819
This guy is from /v/. They hate RDR2 there, apparently it's woke because of these 3 reasons:
>you have a black friend
>you have an indian friend
>you can help women

>>212657590 (OP)
I stopped playing RDR at the mexico part

>>212661885
>time to ride mah hoahrse
You don't need to. There are other options of travel, including fast travel

>some graphically pretty wasteland
You mean the greatest open world ever assembled?

>90% listening to npc's babble while i ride mah hoahrse
The dialogue is beautiful and it builds character. Sorry you need constant bang bang shoot shoot for you TikTok addled zoomer brain

>>212661966
Changed my life too but in a different way. I loved the fishing/hunting/exploring/outdoorsy aspect of it, but then I realized "Why am I doing this in a game? I can do it for real". So I got super into outdoorsy stuff and now go off grid multiple times a year for camping/hiking/fishing expeditions. Barely even went outside when the game came out

>>212662039
>i don't need to take a week off work to enjoy it.
>content
>too much
The problem is that you've gotten dull with age and lack the imagination to make your own fun. Ironic and understandable in movie game like this. I agree it's bloated to hell and back, but no reason to complain about the enormous playground they give you

>>212662069
I like the part where all the positives you mention or defend has nothing to do with gameplay and I think that's really indicative for RDR2 faggots as a whole

>>212662091
doing some of those activities can be expensive though

>>212662100
Again, the "gameplay" is the exploring and the slice of life stuff. It's basically a 19th century simulator. Go play GTA if you want flying cars and lasers

>>212662091
Same. I live in an amazing /out/ location but spent most of my life ignoring it. Now I carry a telescopic rod in my motorcycle saddle bag and stop and fish at streams and lakes like Arthur. It's like when I was a kid running around the woods with a sword pretending to be Link, but nobody can see how autistic I'm being.

>>212658379
The first 20% of the game is the biggest shithole ever.
But absolutely nothing compares to hunting niggers at midnight in Lagras with a pump action shotgun with explosive slugs.

>>212662114
Sure. You have to think of it as an investment. You can also buy a lot of good shit on ebay/Marketplace

>>212662042
>IknowThisGuy-posting on an anonymous imageboard

>>212662069
>You mean the greatest open world ever assembled?
a very low bar. i still consider prototype to have the best "open world" only because i enjoyed it the most.

>You don't need to. There are other options of travel, including fast travel
you wouldn't even want it though if you second point was true. if the open world is fun, you'd want to traverse it.

>The dialogue is beautiful and it builds character. Sorry you need constant bang bang shoot shoot for you TikTok addled zoomer brain
i'm probably older than you faggot. the dialogue was boring as fuck just by the fact that there was to much of it. if i took your favorite movie and made it 10 hours long, you'd get bored. less is more.

>>212661970
>story is enjoyable, easily immersive
not at all immersive, if you have even just a little bit of background knowledge of the frontier west.

People don't act at all like they're from that period, and the gameplay is atrocious.
Instead of letting the player play like a cowboy, you're instead watching a poor amalgamation of generic "western" tropes play themselves out in front of you.
Sure, sometimes the game prompts you to "press X" to click on a denotator, or fire 400 rounds of ammunition into the lawmen trying to stop you, but ultimately you have no freedom of choice in the game, to play as you would like to play.

The game creates a poor illusion of choice: you can play like a good person or a bad person, but it changes literally nothing in how the game perceives you.

So if you want to play anything other than the feminist, abolitionist, anti-segregation Marston, you immediately release the game is incredibly shallow.

>>212662132
I played all kinds and I've concluded that RDR2 is a boring moviegame, whereas I loved RDR1 and I'm sure not even you would argue that that game is ''flying cars and lasers'' type of thing

>>212662168
>but it changes literally nothing in how the game perceives you.
character literally have different dialogue, there's different cutscene variations, npcs act differently when you get close to them etc, wtf u talking about

>>212662094
>The problem is that you've gotten dull with age and lack the imagination to make your own fun
i spent god knows how many hours just dicking around as jack once i beat 1. there's very little 2 really adds in that aspect.

I liked RDR2 and that’s all that matters

>>212662196
>cutscene variations
bro the entire game is a cutscene lmao

>npcs act differently when you get close to them
Which doesn't make sense either. If I'm robbing people in the middle of the desert, and I'm wearing a bandits outfit when I do that, why am I recognized as a villain when I ride into town with my best suit on?

Again, it's incredibly shallow. You get negative from robbing people (even though you commit mass murder every day), and the world will become "more" hostile to you, despite you taking any precautions.

It's like in GTA 5, if you murder someone in the middle of nowhere, police swarm you instantly.

It's lazy, and doesn't create an immersive atmosphere. Any action the player takes on the behalf of his own story is always either ignored or punished. You're playing Rockstar Games™ Red Dead Redemption™ and you're not allowed to forget it for even one second.

>>212662203
>not stopping the story at the penultimate mission and just living as John
I tried as Jack, but every time you skinned something he'd say stuff like "just like you taught me, Pa".
Got me everytime.

>>212661884
Baby upset?

There's something odd about that Jeb Murphy

Let's bring some objective measure ITT.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVesOi1arI4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9cBXaT0ao
4 hours of well edited western kino versus 20 (twenty, vingt, zwanzig, veinte, venti) hours of bloated period piece soap opera.

>>212662317
I played a good marston, and then went around killing lawmen on sight as jack. only game i can think of off the top of my head that gave you a reason to want to keep playing past the main mission.

>>212662317
WORK YA DAMN NAG

>>212661842
Name one (1) from mainline RDR you stupid CUNT. The GTA games, manhunt, and bully are masonic games. RDR is genuine.

>>212657590 (OP)
Its no Gun, I can tell you that much. You cant even shoot injuns, I mean c'mon

>>212662165
ok /v/turd

>>212662400
crazy how much better rdr2 is. thanks for posting this.

>>212662577
RDR is supposed to be on the same universe of GTA and Manhunt actually

How do you Arthurmax? https://youtu.be/WuqeVuEY3Bw

>>212662726
>be hot
>don't be ugly

>>212662697
riveting gameplay

>>212662726
Marston is superior merely because he's played by a Hoosier chad

>>212662726
start wearing a hat and 2 concealed guns

>>212657590 (OP)
RDR1 is one of the best games ever made. It's pure Spaghetti Western kino.

RDR2 is gorgeous but very ponderous.

>>212662697
Seems like Rockstar are the only ones who put this amount of effort into their games.

>>212662747
this right here is peak gameplay, cope /v/edditor

>>212662726
Love trannies and black peoples and die of aids

>>212662705
Rdr1 is better. Waaaay better story (rdr2 is a jumbled less) and superior game engine. Rdr 2 looks beautiful but npcs have that same bland gta 5 look.

>here’s that guy who had a massive impact on john’s life who will never get mentioned in the first game because it was made first
Why didnt they just make it work?

>>212662817
They both have the RAGE engine what you mean

Rdr1 made it seem like it was a small band of ruthless outlaws who had prostitutes with them. 2 made it into a weird lgbt mutt family

Gun>RD

>>212662848
there's no gay characters in any of the lead characters in rdr2

>>212662782
The story for RDR1 is better, but my only problem with the game is that it's way too wild west for the year 1911 and it just comes off kind of like a parody, but I think console limitations played a big part in that.

>>212662876
Yeah there is, (You)

>>212657590 (OP)
Video games are the superior medium.

>>212662876
It’s the sentiment of the group. This big mash up of cultures and identities

>>212662805
The only soulful part of that webm is the 3mb filesize limit

>>212662842
Rdr 2 uses a more advanced version

>>212657590 (OP)
>RDR1
Kino, great atmosphere, nice world and characters, kino dlc
>RDR2
Reddit, shitty writing, gameplay sucks, world sucks, Arthur and Micah are among the shittiest characters ever created, >>212657819
>The second one is great gameplay wise albeit pretty slow in movement.
Nope, it's worse than the decent gameplay of the first.
>The Hunting in the second game is genuinely pretty fun and the gun fighting is also pretty fun.
It's not, there is always a boring cutscenes when you have to take resources from an animal
>The story is just fucking meandering pointless garbage
The story is fine, the writing is garbage >>212658001
>the cuba chapter kinda sucks, come on now
Nah it was good.

>>212662926
Yeah of course

>>212662876
>implying bill wasn't busting cheeks on the side

>>212658881
That's not Mary Beth, chud.

>>212662902
This. I completely switched to vidya, I barely watch movies nowadays.

The rdr2 gang should have been Dutch, Bill, Javier and John. Throw in abigail and a few more whores sure, but the size didnt make sense. They were supposed to be a tight nit group of bloodthirsty bank robbers

>>212662931
At least 74 million buyers disagree. I suggest you stick to your little /v/ echo chamber where almost everyone agrees with you and where this post would matter. It ain't worth shit outside of that.

>>212662931
>Micah are among the shittiest characters ever created
Maybe just being a contrarian faggot, but micah was the only character i liked.

Was anyone else a bit disappointed when their ruff n tuff outlaw gang turned out to be just a bunch of bleedin heart pikies? Fookin 'ate pikeys.

>>212661346
>Some
You fucking retard

>>212662987
Millions of people also watch capeshit. Appealing to popularity is one of the most retarded fallacies someone can use.

>>212662987
I guess Fortnite is the best game ever then

>>212661842
RDR2 had so many Easter Eggs (most of them creepy) that it became boring and all the magic vanished away. It's the perfect example of why too much of something is actually bad.

>>212662963
Patrician taste

>>212663053
uh doesn't count cause is f2p

>>212663013
Yeah this was my main gripe with the story of 2

LE HECKIN TAHITI

>>212663049
Not true. A video game being extremely popular means a lot more than a movie being popular. Video game popularity directly directs quality, unlike movies. Cope.

>>212662805
Actual walking simulator

>>212663057
I hated that >dude aliens shit. Rdr 1 had genuinly creepy stranger side missions whereas Rdr 2's stranger missions were had you collect useless junk

>>212662880
was probably 1860s to 1880s but they wanted 1910 level guns and comforts, without the civil war atmosphere
can't blame them

>>212663107
Because its convenient for your argument?

>>212662963
>>212663059
>it's an open world dooood! you can do whatever you want!
>game forces you to simp for the writer's ex-stacy instead of shooting a dozen kids into the objectively best girl around
why are video game devs like this?

>>212662987
>At least 74 million slop loving normies disagree
You sure showed me, you clearly have the best taste and arguments.
>>212663002
>micah was the only character i liked.
I couldn't take him seriously, to me that wasn't a character at all. Le generic villain racist who is an asshole. I can't say he did have a real personality.
>>212663107
>Video game popularity directly directs quality, unlike movies
Least retarded red dead redditor

>>212663097
mangoes

>>212663166
>red dead redditor
A reddeadditor, if you would

>>212663112
or riding simulator
>>212663152
because it's true
>>212663166
I am right and you can't prove me wrong. Every single game that is extremely popular is also good. Maybe you don't like it, but that's not relevant.

American Venom is the only kino moment of 2

>>212663213
>because it's true
Because you say so?

>>212657590 (OP)
Why is this thread still up??? Manchildren have their own videogame board, just go there

>>212662987
>but anon we have a gorillion unemployed, we must be the richest and most prosperous country in the WORLD!
as if

>>212663224
is the only kino moment for John, he was pretty much a loser for 99% of the game until American Venom

>>212663166
>I couldn't take him seriously, to me that wasn't a character at all. Le generic villain racist who is an asshole. I can't say he did have a real personality.
That's why i liked him though. Everyone else is some wholesome chungus good hearted rascal. Micah is just some degenerate bastard that does as he pleases.

>>212663231
Yes. But also because you can't say how i am wrong.

>>212663239
Because the game is a playable-movie. The Last of Us and Kojimbo are also /tv/ related.

>>212663269
Its not my responsibility to argue your arguement. No one is taking that for granted when your entire argument rests on it.

>>212657590 (OP)
shittier versions of scenes from good movies

>>212663213
>t. cunt
soon there will be a time when you'll get whipped for even looking at a computer/smartphone

>anons not even able to read the sarcasm in webmfags posts
iq levels on this board are critically low

>>212663239
Both games are amalgamations of every good western ever

>>212663307
>>212663327
ok, i'll take it

>>212663239
>t. cunt
soon there will be a time when you'll get whipped for opening your mouth

I liked RDR2 so I don’t think it will be a waste of your time. Happy yeehawing pardner

>>212663269
>>212663213
>>212662805
You obviously like some well-made parts of RDR2 but to say it's a better game that RDR1 it's simply delusional and patently false.
We don't play games to live in them, we have reality for living.

>that
than

The only part of 2 I liked was the rc boat deal. It was neat and fun and felt like I was actually playing a video game.

>>212663213
>the reddeadditor doesn't understand the difference between quality and popularity
Negative IQ points

>>212663400
>we have reality for living.
reality? fuck reality

>>212663466
Yes i do, i just said that a popular game is also a good game. Every popular game is also good. I think what YOU don't understand is that you not liking something doesn't make it bad.

Rockstar can never be excused for using Arthur’s character body for John

>>212657590 (OP)
Didn't they have some desert shitskin wearing a burka in the opening scene of #2 where Arthur has to save the village from the snow?

>>212663543
no?

>>212663503
Yep, negative IQ points.

>>212663503
>Every popular game is also good
I bet this is why people still shit in the middle of the street in india lol

>>212663503
This post angers and confuses the /tv/-contrarian

>>212663616
Post your hand with a timestamp you dumb spic.

>>212663616
Do we have two people with negative IQ points in this thread or are you samefagging?

>>212663503
Troons will not like this post.

>>212663616
>everything popular is actually good!
Super contrarian, definitely

>>212663543
Yes

>>212663503
>Fifa fortnite and call of duty are good

>>212663557
I just looked

>>212663616
>game is good because it iss popular
>game is popular because it is good
Circular logic is confusing, yes. Gacha games are so great. I love fornite. Siege is the best Rainbow 6 ever. Oh boy I cant wait for the next Call of Duty and Marvel Rivals update.

>>212663685
Those games are very good to the people who play them, yes. I hate Fifa, but i can admit it's a good game

>>212663729
Yes

>Yes

2 is gay because you can't skin the horses after killing them

>>212663756
>games in 2025 cannot even begin to compete with a game made in 2018 via graphics engine
>Red Dead Redemption 2
>EA’s Star Wars Battlefront 2
Have game devs gotten lazier and just push out shoddy product that always look a Roblox mod in 2025. I feel like GTA6 will just raise the bar further that will be considered industry standard in 2040

>>212657590 (OP)
>Obvious /v/ slop ragebait thread
>/tv/ still falls for it

>>212663721
she's just using that for the cold, her character doesn't wear that again after that section of the game

>>212663807
behold, the popular opinion

>>212663842
i think people haven't learned to properly use UE5 but once they do it will get there. Also Death Stranding 2 looks as good if not better than those 2. TLOU 2 looks great as well

>>212663853
This thread is higher caliber than most of what gets posted on here. You want actually discussion go to /film/. Just the way it is anon.

>>212663721
>This is the IQ level of the average anti-RDR2 chud

>>212663867
Dunno, heard enough about it being a political pandering game and after I saw that I'm glad I uninstalled. Won't play it even for horse balls.

>>212663721
ayyo, this nigga aint never seent a shawl befo

>hey we know you bought this game to be a badass cowboy outlaw and shoot people
>so here’s a couple dozen missions on how to set up a campsite and cook stuff over a fire and tack a horse and make poultices
>you’ll never need any of this crap again btw, you can just pick up magic potions and cans of beans every 20 feet
>oh you want to be a bounty hunter eh?
>yeah you can do that
>like 8 times and only when we feel like it
>betcha wanna know what’s in that shack, huh?
>oh the door’s locked? try kicking it in
>oh yeah that never does anything, every door you’re not predestined to go through is made of solid steel
2 had tons of content but like 90% of it was useless one-off set dressing to give you the impression the world was way more immersive than it really was, the only truly impressive aspect was the hunting and variety of wildlife

>>212663931
You paid for it you already lost

>>212663953
>the only truly impressive aspect was the hunting and variety of wildlife
Shame it was supposed to be a cowboy game tho

>>212658147
GTA IV has the best story

>>212664051
>You killed my friends for 1000 dollars?
>How much do you charge to kill someone?

detivative crap. the second one is worse even, where it shoves in libcuck talking points everywhere

>>212664078
Ok

>>212664070
literally how the fuck you answer this without sounding mad

>>212664051
I felt like niko the whole time. Like some character just starts ranting about some shit I cant really under stand and niko stares at him trying he best to follow along until he goes
>ok, so.... you want me to shoot some guy or....

>>212664051
This

>>212664094
i was being dramatic, excuse me. both are fine gameplay wise. the second one's story and mission design is just retarded and has modern talking points in it for some reason. especially the hunting is fun in both games. undead nightmare is one of the best DLCs ever released

>>212657590 (OP)
Californian Cowboys

>>212663756
I don't think even most FIFA players would tell you they're good games. They play them because they like soccer and playing online with friends and it's the monopoly on AAA multiplayer soccer games.

>>212657590 (OP)
the movie is okay but the open world game part is really cool

>>212663107
>Video game popularity directly directs quality, unlike movies
>minecraft
>roblox
>gta 5 (rushed dogshit with broken hacked online lol)
>Wii Sports (fun but free with a console)
>Ark: Survival Evolved
Oh yes, look at all that QUALITY. Rockstar games suck by the way

>>212663756
fifa only got good in recent years. technically it was inferior to winning eleven for a long time.

Modern video games are so garbage. I miss 00s vidya.

>>212657590 (OP)
left
>pure kino
>feels like there's a genuine sense of evil and dread and rotten sin hanging over the entire game
>everything feels gnarly, even the comedic parts are grisly
>John is actually compelling and feels like a legitimate horrible person who tried to be a normal family man
>closest a game has come to capturing a cormac mccarthy novel's atmosphere
right
>the video game equivalent of a golden retriever with a "spooky" hat put on its head for a family Halloween photo
>pure normie bait
>entire story has maybe two moments that actually have any grit
>the gang isn't something that feels like it could've been similar to something you'd find in the heart of darkness, they're more like a travelling shakespearean theater company or gypsy troupe
>Arthur is the most committee-approved safe-for-normie-consumption focus-tested protagonist ever made, he's only saved because he looks really good and Roger Clarke has a great voice

/v/ still fuming ITT i see..looks like they were hit with the reality that their opinion is only correct in their containment board

>>212665909
bad game btw

>>212665909
Fuck yeah lol

>>212657590 (OP)
kino, just dont get too friendly with Micah

>>212666157
shut the fuck up black lung

>playing videogames for the story

No one does this... right? Please tell me they don't.

>>212657819
Based.
John never got raped by a hick.

>>212662577
The Ghost of the Tumbleweed Mansion
Uhhh that’s about it

>>212658266
That's a big HR department.

>>212662880
Mexican banditos were riding over the border to sack American towns and getting into gunfights with the local police and militias up until the late 1910s

>>212663721
Apparently black people are immune to the cold and would never need to wear multiple layers

Soon

>>212659726
>Your mother and father will die in their sleep tonight. No immunities.
I don't think so, chief

>>212662857
RDRevolver > Gun > RDR > RDR2

>>212666805
My cat every time I try to get some shit done around the house

You'd be better off playing the first one, then Undead Nightmare, then maaaybe Red Dead Revolver and you wouldn't be missing anything with the second one.

>>212657590 (OP)
I'm replaying RDR1 at the moment, and I don't know if it's nostalgia but I really do think it's more enjoyable to play overall compared to RDR2. I spent an hour just playing poker with the guys at MacFarlane's ranch

>>212663842
I don' t think it's laziness, it's just that it has reached a point that slop is so much more profitable in 2025, that even if you could summon the funds and somehow make a RDR2 style masterpiece of a game it would make peanuts compared to a gachaslop mobile game that was outsourced overseas. There are very few companies with enough money to make these blockbuster single player games anymore and still be profitable, it's basically just Rockstar, Bethesda and CD Projekt

>>212667254
Fuck off Cavill, try geting one fucking thing completed first before you think about ruining the next one

RDR1 was a massive defining moment in my video game experience, RDR2 just felt like a soft reboot of the same concept mixed with the same shit that other sandbox games have been doing for years. The idea that John never mentioned Arthur ever again in the rest of his life is absurd

>>212657590 (OP)
best you ignore rdr and only play rdr2

>RDR2
>has a "2" in the name
>is a prequel
Still pisses me off years later

>>212668266
kek

>>212667743
>RDRevolver > Gun > RDR > RDR2
forgetting the goat

>>212658001
Everyone says this but it's one of my favorite parts.

What everyone forgets when enjoying a time period, is what the rest of the world is up to. And when you're enjoying a cowboy adventure you forget that the rest of the world has steam boats and advanced weaponry. Arthur and crew are fucking around in the late 1800s. Going to some caribbean shithole trapped in the middle between thousands of competing nations, mercenaries, dictatorships, pirates - so much that it would make Syria blush.
It really showed how naive the America outlaws were. How they wanted to rage against a machine that kept everything exceptionally civilized, but when they stepped out of America and into the real world where no such law or commonality is found, it made their exploits pathetic. They barely survived their encounters with REAL savage outlaws, where everyday is a fucking war.
It was important to the story because Dutch saw his little gang as nothing more than rebellious children, where he wanted to be a dictator of a banana republic. And Arthur learned what barbarity means, and that what America has is precious and needs to be saved from monsters like Dutch.

>>212661612
>second game is low effort

>>212657590 (OP)
In terms of story
1>2

in terms of gameplay
2>1

both are incredible

>>212666234
What a weird thing to get upset about

Play the 1st one and skip the second
RDR1 its the best piece of western media out there,while RDR2 its pozzed slop

Killing Micah was not as satisfying as killing Ross

>>212670894
well put

>>212657590 (OP)
Never played the first game, but the second game is so fucking shit. It sucks ass to play, it controls like shit, the missions are shit and piss easy, there's no point to doing anything because you don't need anything upgraded, and all in service of 'the height of videogame stories' which really just means being on par with an okay film. It's a shit sandwich. Uncharted is also a movie game but cuts down on 90% of the bullshit and doesn't pretend to be anything more than a good Indiana Jones style story. And simple as it is, the actual shooting from 2 onward is actually fun.

Playing poker online was fun though.

>>212671638
>Uncharted is better than Red Dead Redemption
Opinion discarded.

>>212671719
They're more fun.

>>212657590 (OP)
the first game sucks and looks like ass while the second game is a certified masterpiece that also looks the part

i love both of them
neither one is perfect but the faggots in this thread are acting like if the devs fuck up once or two mechanics then the game is a dumpster fire kek

Really want to replay it but man I fucking hate the first like 15 hours of the game

>>212672230
basic movement and interaction is a pretty big mechanic

>>212671234
1st isn't woke? John being against racism isn't woke? John agreeing that women should be leaders of the world isn't woke?
Interesting. Maybe its just your brain that rotted rendering you too miserable to enjoy something good because le culture war

>>212657590 (OP)
Someone wrote an article that the game was the best western ever made.

>>212657590 (OP)
Video games are for children.

>>212671856
This. I’d rather have a non-bloated adventure on-rails game with a likable main character

I love both but I love 2 way more. Better characters, better story, much better open world, in fact it is the greatest open world ever crafted.

2's world is genuinely awe inspiring

>>212657909
>>212661647
mexico segment was cool. that old dude is a faggot's idea of cool/mature

>>212673174
Show me when did both of these things happened in RDR1

>>212657590 (OP)
something that is bad at both being a game and being a movie

>>212673319
what black magic was used to make this work on an XBOX ONE

>>212673333
Try playing the game you're a fan of instead, you'll find many more instances of John acting woke. The only decidedly anti-woke shit he does in the game is when he works for the mexican army and that feels poorly written because the story is so concerned with his redemption but its not interested in exploring that at all during those missions, they flip a switch and now they're doing the edgy anti-hero thing for a while until they turn it back on and he suddenly wants to be a better man.

2 is more consistent. Is it reflective of the current era in terms of culture? Sure, that's every Rockstar game ever. When you unrot your brain you'll be able to enjoy it.

>>212658267
The missions are bad and stupid yes, but everything else is top notch gameplay wise. Roaming around, hunting, checking every building you come across and finding stuff to do, robbing places, unlocking stuff it's all great and fun. But the missions suck yes.

>>212673526
the background is obviously a still

>>212660409
RDR 1 is a deeply cynical game where everyone is a shade of gray, but like really gray. RDR 2 is a deeply positive game where they talk about everything being shades of gray but there is a clear moral path. The games are completely different from each other and thus it comes across as if it's not a single story.

>>212673640
The missions are literally what makes the entire game

>>212673527
Nigger there is no instance in RDR1 where it show an act of racism,RDR1 acutally has almost no blacks only a few npcs roaming around
As for woman being leaders you must be referirng when he tells a joke to bonnie or abigail,in fact rdr1 show how retarded woman are when you help that mexican woman to rescue that rebel who she claim will save mexico but he actually ends up becoming a dictator just like the ones before him,John even points it out to her
While in the Second game you have marry sue Sandy going round killing entire gangs and Arthur helping a feminist rally and owning the racists chuds in the bar

>>212673731
>everyone is a shade of gray, but like really gray
In other words, it's exactly like all media was back in 2005-2010, where antiheroes became the biggest thing in the world. It's very, very reflective of that era. It was cool to be cynical, it was cool to be an anti-hero. RDR2 feels like a more sincere game, because sincerity made a comeback in art.

I don't care what seething incels have to say. The female characters in RDR2 is far and away the best Rockstar have ever had, it quite literally is not even close.

>>212673861
Heres its everything you need to know about RDR1
https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/1g7cfxz/im_late_to_the_party_playing_rdr1_and_am_kind_of/

>>212674033
will now play your game

>rdr2 is 15 bucks
>rdr1 is 50
right
remind me next sale

>>212657819
the only people who like rdr1 are those who only played the game back in 2010 when they were teenagers. the game simply isn't fun.

>>212673852
Then you havent played the game properly, the most fun you can have is roam around in the early chapters. The missions are all the same
>go to somewhere
>listen to dialogues on the way over
>cut scene
>shoot people
>escape others i.e. go somewhere again
>mission success

Also the Unshaken part onf RDR2 its a rip off from RDR1 Runaway train
https://youtu.be/AUXGW6sWYDY?list=RDAUXGW6sWYDY
https://youtu.be/ulTH0MHwa8c


Zoomers ate this slop good

>>212674559
>zoomers have shit taste
Yeah we know, worst generation ever.