Hugo Strange, Renee Montoya, Harvey Bullock, Barbara Gordon, Victor Zsasz and Anarky appear. Strange is the main villain of the film. There is sequel setup involving the Court of Owls in this movie, who will be Part III's antagonists. Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun is the recurring musical motif throughout the film, in line with Nirvana's Something in the Way. No further spinoffs are in development. The Penguin Season 2 has been scrapped by DC Studios, and it's now referred to as "a limited miniseries".

>>212667022 (OP)
>Renee Montoya
don't tell me we're not getting a male question?

>>212667022 (OP)
DCU connection?

>>212667022 (OP)
>no hush
thank god
>court of owls
fuck

>>212667353
I prefer to call the male Question "the jewish Question". And seems like we have a solution to that. A final one you could say.

>>212667022 (OP)
>Court of Owls

>>212667353
No, she's just Renee Montoya, played by Eiza Gonzalez. No alter ego. Barbara Gordon briefly appears but no setup involving her being Robin or Batgirl or anything of the like. Catwoman has a recurring role but not a main role. Renee assumes that. Harvey and Gilda Dent also make brief appearances.

Anarky is a Riddler-inspired villain who Batman fights in the first and second acts and manipulated by Strange. Zsasz appears briefly. No appearance from Sofia Falcone. Penguin is barely in the script and gets defeated rather quickly by Batman and sent to Arkham.

Perhaps in response to some of the criticism surrounding Bruce Wayne in the first film, he's a lot more outgoing and playboyish in the second one.
The main plot is about Hugo Strange as Bruce's psychologist and obsessed with his Batman persona and the psychology behind it. He also turns Arkham patients into Batman-like vigilantes (like Anarky) to instigate chaos in a post-flood Gotham. He's also linked to a cabal of sorts which, obviously, turns out to be the Court of Owls but that is left for the third film to explore as Bruce uncovers their existence near Part II's end.

Pattinson batman is getting a trilogy? I did not know the first one did that well

>>212667663
The only reason the sequel took this long is because of that manipulative scumfuck James Gunn trying to strongarm Reeves into quitting on it through various lowly tactics. He had the script ready for ages but Gunn kept wanting "revisions" and postponing "approving" it until Reeves just went over his head to Zazlav.

>>212667629
Actually sounds kino. Anarky fits Reeves’ world really well, so does strange as his psychologist

>>212667629
>Renee Montoya, played by Eiza Gonzalez
nice

>>212667629
Sounds like they are trying to fit a lot in this I hope the movie is 4 hours with an intermission and it mindbreaks any capeshit zoomer fan that tries to see it.

>>212667353
Question hasn't been a guy for a long time, unfortunately. dyketoya has ruined the legacy

From what I know, I can only say Eiza Gonzalez has put down a deal to be in the film but other actos who have been contacted by Reeves for roles include:
1. Jared Harris as Dr. Hugo Strange (I even found a cool mock-up of him as Hugo online, kudos to whoever made this)
2. Karl Glusman as Anarky
3. Ella-Rae Smith as Barbara Gordon
4. Jesse Plemons as Harvey Dent (who COULD have an expanded role in Part III)
5. Edmund Donovan as another Arkham crazie turned deranged vigilante by Strange

Also, to address the big one, Joker does return but in a limited capacity that only functions as setup for the third film in which he will have a larger role. It seems Two-Face, The Joker will have secondary villain roles but the Court of Owls (Talon is teased) are the endgame villains for Matt Reeves' trilogy.

>>212667022 (OP)
are they going to rip batman arkham city off?

>>212667815
The first movie was far more bloated than that.

>>212667022 (OP)
Can I ask where you got this info from?
I'd love for it to be true, but you know.
It could be a lie.

In the planning stages of Part II, Reeves actually considered the Affleck pitch which would've entailed Deathstroke as the villain, but he figured it was better to go his own way and found Hugo Strange to be a far more interesting villain. He also ruled it out because the character was far too "out there" for his universe. Some other scrapped plans include Black Mask, Professor Pyg and a reimagined Hush.

>>212667022 (OP)
Sounds good. Let's get this show on the road so we can rebuild the DC brand globally after the damage Gunn inflicted.

>>212667022 (OP)
>Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun
HELL FUCKING YES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg

>>212668269
I obviously can't answer that, can I?

>>212668395
I don't mean literally. As in, give me your source.
I mean, why should we believe this is more than just a random fan theorization?
Is there anything you can offer that sets this apart? If not, I get it.
But I'll have to take it with a major grain of salt.

>>212667022 (OP)
>hugo strange brainwashing asylum patients into becoming crazed vigilantes

That’s literally the plot of Batman: Prey. Try harder OP.

>>212667022 (OP)
>hugo strange
based
>court of owls
fuck

>>212667022 (OP)
I thought they were going to put Mr Freeze in it since Gotham is flooded and going into winter.

>>212668442
My source is the fact that scripts for major movies circulate like crazy and actually pass through a lot more hands than what studios would have you believe. They peddle this narrative that these scripts are lock-and-key and eyes only and all that but in reality, that's just now how it goes.

It goes through a lot of hands and, more importantly, a lot of eyes and it just so happens that one of those eyes might be a big fan (as I am) and wants to give people a taste of what the movie is about. I didn't leak the whole plot, just what it's about and what they can expect out of it. In an age where people are so invested in a movie's development only to get disappointed or bamboozled as it were, I feel like offering some transparency is good.

I also don't believe in this whole culture that's been born with social media where just saying "this movie features such and such" is some grand Watergate-level leak or something. Just putting things out there and seeing what people think as I am also a fan. I was able to read a good amount of it hence the information I divulged. I don't think any of this "ruins" the movie in any way. There's a lot of other good stuff to look forward to in it.

>>212668640
Okay. That makes sense.
I only have two questions then, if you're willing to answer:
1. Didn't Reeves mention a song by The Weekend inspiring his writing process? Is that in the film along with Soundgarden, or was it never really in the running?
2. Is there any info on an updated suit?
Thanks for what you've shared.

>>212668640
Just spill what you “learned”. These threads are 99% lies anyway and nobody seriously believes you but they are a fun way to speculate.

>No Mr. Freeze
Reeves is a coward. Didn’t watch the first and I’m not watching this. Utterly boring, pedantic crap.

>strange.... to meet you

>>212667022 (OP)
Penguin was always a limited series. I don't recall a single moment they implied there would be a season 2.

>>212668640
>>212667022 (OP)
Songs aren't mentioned in scripts. Nice larp, tho.

>>212667022 (OP)
Arkham? I think they were doing Mr Freeze.....

>>212669043
From The Batman 1 script:
https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/The-Batman-Read-The-Screenplay.pdf

>>212668724
1. No. Obviously not.
2. No. The suit is the same.
>>212668725
Sure, that's the beat you walk but I never expected it to be otherwise. Just throwing it out there. Not bait-fishing. That's cool.

>>212667022 (OP)
Cool.
Reeves Batman was always supposed to be Arkham city the movie

>>212667629
>therapyslop

>>212669523
That and the insufferable dyke Renee Montoya being included make it sound eerily realistic.

>>212667022 (OP)
Unless it changes up the energy and adds some real stakes and some kind of plot that feels interesting, I don't gaf.

>>212669764
Robert Pattinson should be a homerun as Batman and Bruce Wayne but he's given the most faggy and insufferable incarnation of the character yet to play. What an utter waste.

Any Joker scenes?

>>212669829
>>212668026

>>212667022 (OP)
>Court of Owls
kino

>>212668026
there shouldn't be villains of Nolan trilogy, they cannot be topped

>people here shitting on Court of Owls
if reimagined and done right by the concept, they could be great. It's right up Reeve's alley.

>>212667022 (OP)
It's too bad Gunn cockblocked this trilogy and it will probably never be made. The first movie was great, albeit a little too long. A Hugo Strange movie sounds kino.

OP is definitely a LARPer but his ideas are great and very believable. As far as fake leak posts go, this is by far the best I've seen. Good one, OP.

>>212669300
Shooting scripts are different from scripts.

>>212671649
After this box office failure, WB will go all in on Batman

>>212667022 (OP)
why does batman have a therapist?

>>212671680
Why did you reply, man? You got BTFO'd by that Anon. Leave it alone.

>>212671711
Yeah, Gunn's Batman. Which will just be more Disney shit.

>>212667353
>>212667887
Renee made a far better Question and the fact you two shitlicks habeeb otherwise proves you havent read the comics. RM was a longrunning side character before she started heroing
Jeffrey Combs voiced an excellent Question, yes, but that was only a handful of episodes of JL and post-Watchmen

>>212668026
>Jared Harris as Dr. Hugo Strange
That would be fantastic casting. Hope it pans out

>>212667022 (OP)
LBR, these leaks + casting news are always more fun than the actual movie they end up making.

>>212672836
Right? I mean, they just prove that these people working in the industry aren't actually special or talented, just rich, unworhy nepotistic Jews. I've seen such amazing casting/writing/ideas of all kinds on /tv/. Art is not like science. Anyone can be better than the "professionals" which is idiotic to say of that field.

>>212672282
>Renee made a far bett-
Kindly commit suicide and end your family bloodline.

>>212673295
I don't remember movies ever being this dependent on PR, the long period of hype before it's made or premieres. It's turned upside down. Movies used to have to stand on their feet. Give people their money + time's worth. Now the PR is the most important??? Too many people working in PR, even shills farmed out to 3rd world.

>>212674367
It's an entire pseudo-economy, dude. Look at the current Superman debacle. Zazlav himself is coming out saying what a huge success Superman is and the entire social media sphere is completely at odds with observable REALITY when the movie is actually massively flopping and will do The Marvels numbers. But this is a huge win because people "trust the brand". WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? The movie is FLOPPING.