If F4 also underperforms, the end of the superhero genre could be in sight. The days of billion-dollar grosser are definitely over.

>made less than Quantumania
>saves the day
WB IS PAYING THE TRADES TO MINDFUCK PEOPLE
WB IS PAYING THE TRADES TO LIE AND MANUFACTURE CONSENSUS
WB IS COMMITTING FRAUD ON A MASSIVE SCALE

>>212683640 (OP)
Deadpool and Wolverine made that last year

I don't give a shit how it did in other countries, Superman is American as apple pie and monster trucks

>You now remember that BvS of all movies opened with $422M

People just don't go to comic book movie premiers like they used to

>>212683640 (OP)

>>212683757
BvS's weekend was the stuff of legend. EVERYONE saw it. Drop off was because the film just didn't feel family friendly enough for families to go back to which are the main demographic that go for repeat viewings.

>>212683676
>made more than Guardians of the Galaxy

>>212683640 (OP)
We had a billion dollar grosser LAST YEAR

>>212683881
>the film just didn't feel family friendly enough
Also because audiences fucking hated it.

>>212683640 (OP)
>The days of billion-dollar grosser are definitely over.

>>212683676
People just wanted a Superman who looks cool and has exciting fight, rather than a Superman who has ugly Halloween costumes and gets beaten all the time

>>212683640 (OP)
WB has none but Marvel still has a few nostalgia acts to pull a billion like last year

>>212683640 (OP)
There were no children or teenagers in my screening, only adult men and women, who were probably college-age when Chris Reeves' first Superman film came out.

>>212684204
Only because it teamed up to legacy characters. If Wolverine wasn’t in it, it wouldn’t have made a billion. Only Spider Man can make a billion and even he needs legacy characters which No Way Home was flooded with

>>212683640 (OP)
Rape them Kal-El.

Impregnate their Women.

>>212684575
I wanted a blue boyscout not an inhuman alien, and the movie delivered

>>212684219
Because WB chopped it into a confusing mess

>>212685206
you wanted a blue boyscout that got bitched for 80% of the movie?

>>212685288
he literally only got bitched by his own clone
>kaijuu
actively did not want to kill it
>metamorpho
won over with his charisma

>>212684241
>We can keep doing the jangly keys cameo crossover movie of "remember that character from old movie you like" forever even though we are on the precipice of of losing them to old age.
Not to bright are you?

>>212685288
>you wanted a blue boyscout that got bitched for 80% of the movie?
Did you want Superman constantly going full power killing everything? He was frequently holding back to save even those attacking him like when he was holding the baby and also ensuring the goons wouldn't die in the proton river. Or when he didn't laser those dudes in half but gently took them out with his lasers. The whole movie was Superman respecting and loving all life big and small, evil or just.

> The days of billion-dollar grosser are definitely over.
Nah the next 2 Avengers will make a billion due to nostalgia for RDJ and Chris Evans. Gunn's DC universe if it lasts won't make a billion. Gunn doesn't know how to generate hype the way Feige can. Infinity War hype was insane. Gunn can't generate hype like that because he's dropping the audience in the middle of the story and he himself doesn't care about making a story arc.

>>212683640 (OP)
Chris Nolan's 'The Odyssey' is going to bring back the sword and board slop. Trust me on this.

>>212683712
>Superman is American as apple pie and monster trucks
Not according to Hollywood, DC, or comic writers. He no longer represents the American way. He represents illegal immigrants.

>>212683640 (OP)
F4? They're only on F1, 4 is 3 movies away

>>212683881
It was also one of the worst super hero movies of all time and people made fun of it.

>>212685173
>Only because
Shut up, anon. The claim was "the days of billion-dollar grosser are definitely over". Either they are over or they are not. Evidently, they are not.

>>212685229
No, it's because it's stupid, up its own arse drivel.

>>212685416
he was dying from krytonite poisoning in a pocket dimension for like 30 minutes
>>212685478
>have powers
>not allowed to do anything cool with it because you resect le life
just an awful superhero

>>212686351
I unironically think you're trying too hard if you hate that movie.

>>212687447
are you complaining about Superman being weak to kryptonite now?

>>212684241
marvel lost 4 billion that "phase" even after deadpool and no way home's success. it isn't sustainable

>>212687517
I'm complaining that he was either out of commission or getting his ass beat for more than half the movie

>>212687480
Hate it? No, I just think it's a shit film.

>>212687522
The claim was
>The days of billion-dollar grosser are definitely over.

>>212687730
I unironically think you're trying too hard if you think it's a shit film

>>212687447
>>not allowed to do anything cool with it because you resect le life
Killing isn't cool

>>212687829
Killing in movies and tv will always be cool.

>>212683640 (OP)
This genre died with Captain Marvel and DC's response Wonder Woman.
They killed cheesecake and brought politics and LGBTIQXYZ into the mainstream.

>>212683640 (OP)
Superman will make a billion dollars.

>>212683881
People shit all over that movie almost unanimously for how retarded it was

>>212688216
no

>>212688197
it's not even making more than 700m

>>212683881
Why do we keep pretending bad reviews didn't completely fuck over the Snyderverse?

>>212688816
because the discourse surrounding those movies has been turned into a culture war by dc manchildren and indians

>>212688816
Maybe it would have gotten better reviews if it wasn't 90% garbage.

>>212683757
>man of steel is shit
>bvs is shit
>Justice league is shit
Audiences were conditioned under Snyder to hate DC characters.
Marvel was riding high into 2020, but then they fell into the same trap by releasing garbage after garbage after garbage and now they’ve conditioned audiences to dismiss that brand and those characters as well. It’s easier to lose your audience than it is to win them back. Both companies are in an uphill battle. Marvel just shit out iron heart and once again tainted their goodwill after thunderbolts. It’s unlikely DC will ever experience hype like it did coming off the Nolan trilogy, and it’s unlikely marvel will ever experience infinity war/end game type again.

>>212689126
anon, no one gave the slightest shit about Ironheart

>>212688816
being bad movies fucked them over

>>212688816
"Bad reviews" did not make Batman v Superman have a horrendously bad drop after a massive opening. Audiences fucking hating the film did.