>Dune, 21,450 years in the future
>Foundation, 14,243 years in the future
Why is space opera always so far in the future?

>>212690457 (OP)
To make it as removed from modern day politics as possible? Otherwise you'd have to feature China vs America or some bullshit like that.

Dune's particular setting is also like a neo-feudalism with no artificial intelligence or robots so they need to explain how that came about, so they do this setting it far off into the future after the Butlerian Jihad and a period of long tech stagnation.

It was the right choice. Alien with its casette futurism and clunky huge computers aged like milk whereas Dune aged like fine wine.

>>212690457 (OP)
Both of these stories are basically theoretical anthropology.

"space opera" is a pejorative that means "old story (opera), but in space (space)"

>>212690457 (OP)
Wtf is wrong with that planets scale? The people in the rings would have to be 15 miles tall.

>>212690457 (OP)
The Expanse? Three Body Problem?

Stupid retarded mongoloid idiot subtard.

>>212690457 (OP)
Allows you to easily set up cultures and history that influences how those cultures approach the universe. Look at our own cultures now. We're only truly influenced by the last few thousand years. So you fling humanity multiple times that into the future and you can have them act however you want by developing them however you like. Humanity itself becomes alien, and more interesting

>>212690567
>To make it as removed from modern day politics as possible?
Ironic given that both Dune and Foundation are modern politics but with spaceships + space blasters.

>>212690567
>To make it as removed from modern day politics as possible?
how'd that work out for adaptations?

>>212691214
>dozens of thousands of years into the future
>everyone still speaks American
>wogs still exist

grim

>>212691329
Languages are actually a big deal in Dune. Galach is universally spoken. I'm actually surprised how many different spoken languages there were shown off in DUNC, though.

>>212691329
>movie takes place 500 years in the future
>still has white people and east Asians in it
Takes me right out

>>212691371
And its supposed to sound like a hybrid English/Slavic iirc.
>>212691150
Not Space Opera.

>>212691329
>American
It's English you retard

>>212690997
why?

>>212690457 (OP)
Its not. The expanse was only like 100 years from now. 150? I dont remember.

>>212691895
the expense is not a space opera

>>212690457 (OP)
they made a foundation tv show? is it any good?

You'd rather they be another scifi that sets their radically-unrecognizeably-transformed society with amazing technology like 20 years from the release date?

>>212691378
usually near future scenarios with whites and asians implies some sort of eugenics war that wiped out all the africans and indians - which is the lore of star trek btw, genetic purge of humankind which allowed it to become a spacefaring ultra powerful galactic civilization

>>212692125
What? ST is full of browns

>>212692088
Deus Ex is an alternative timeline.

>>212691994
Why the fuck would anything be good now day's?

>>212690457 (OP)
because you are here forever, you dumb westoid fucks

AHAHAHAHA

>>212692125
That's not what the genetic wars were about you fucking retard

>>212691969
it was politics in spaceships. it seems like one. How do you define a space opera?

>>212691994
not really. mediocre at best.

>>212692314
you ever see a jeet in startrek? now we know why

>>212691994
The parts with the Piemaker and his clones are great. The parts with the suicidal brit tends to be good. The rest is marvel schlock tier.

>>212691994
No

>>212690457 (OP)

> Why are you taking so long to colonize the entire Galaxy! *cries*

>>212691994
No. It's nothing like the books and is basically fan fiction at best. It misses the point of the Foundation books too, which is the inevitable cyclic nature of Human history.

>>212690457 (OP)
Star Wars happened a long time go, if it makes you feel better.

>>212691258
pretty good

>>212691994
I liked it. Salvor Hardin (and her stupid fucking hair) was trash but show was saved by Lee Pace character. Also i liked the religius pajeet and cutie from season 2

>>212693972
(im also completely retarded)

>>212694039
good to know anon but i didn't ask

>>212693972
>>212694039
>>212694076
samefag

>>212694100
This is also my post to artificially revive this thread

>>212691994
niggerfest. first 2 seasons are watchable if you skip everything except the empire, but 3rd looks like it wont bring even that

>>212691150
>Three Body Problem?
Very overrated

>>212694100
Fuck off

>>212693110
Khan is literally the enemy of Kirk and he was a superhuman.

>>212694138
>first 2 seasons are watchable if you skip everything

>>212694242
That supports him though, india tried to create UberJeets and ended up getting themselves wiped out.

>>212694255
except the empire. the empire parts are of such better quality it looks like another show. a real showrunner would realise what he's got after the first few episodes, ditch the mouldy source material and muh stronk black scientists propaganda, and make seasons of kino about lee pace conquering the universe

neither are as far into the future as book of the new sun heheh...

>>212694548
>ditch the mouldy source material
Oh, you're just a massive faggot then.

>>212690567
>removed from modern day politics as possible
>foundation S1 has three strong black women putting white men in their place

>>212694759
>every single of them would have failed without white man plan and his technology

>>212694800
>jew is now white
keep dreaming isaac

>>212691994
foundation in name only
rapes Asimov like amazon raped Tolkien with ROP
emperors are kino, everything else is trash

>>212690457 (OP)
Usually sci-fi is set like 20 years from now, and starts looking stupid in retrospect when you get to that time and the world is basically unchanged.

By setting it 10,000 years in the future you're essentially establishing that you're in a different epoch altogether, ALL of the old social and cultural and religious institutions are truly archaic, to the point that nobody except really hardcore historians would even remember the 20th century.

>>212690457 (OP)
You made these numbers up, neither dunc or Foundation are set in the milky way

>>212697130
Earth did exist in Dune, they've just forgotten where it is because it hasn't been relevant for millennia, probably got nuked before.