When did it start turning into dookie for you? After sneedson 4? Before? Whore?

At the end of S4 you could tell it was the logical peak of the series. Even if it was handled by competent writers after that they'd have the impossible task of tying up all these plot threads.

>>212695001 (OP)
I was always on shakey ground with it due to some adaptation choices they made as early as S1, but it was still good TV. Then S4 happened, and while it is an okay season, it was also filled to the brim with incredibly stupid shit. I could see how it would deteriorate, and it did.

I don't know why people make fun of the looks of the actress that played Sansa Stark. I thought she was pretty, in fact I just saw her in a music video and I didn't even know she could sing!

>>212695101
I prefer Arya Stark.

the more she ate
the more she shat

>>212695001 (OP)
season 2+

>>212695001 (OP)
The exact millisecond it turns to shit is when they run out of book material. The first season where it's pure D&D, the writing becomes Marvel-tier slop.

They started to really depart from the books in S3 for their own ideas not just to save time consolidate characters like in previous seasons and by S3E3 they had the Danny girl bossing 'but we are not men' line and her not sharing her plans with her advisors because she didn't need no man was the signal of what was to come and a total eye roll, the wheels really fell off in S4 with the sand snakes and the over use of Bronn etc among many other things.

>>212695001 (OP)
Around the end of season 4 when they had mostly ran out of source material and original writing began, also tywin died which was bad since charles dance was probably the best actor in the show

Every cumstain simping for LE BOOKSIES willingly ignores the fact that it was all with Martin's seal of approval. He used the later part of the show to demo his ideas for an ending to the series and when he realized he couldn't cut it anymore he fucked off the face of the earth forever.
Your garbage is never getting finished, shitheels.

>>212695001 (OP)
Noticable drop after season 2, then again after 3 and after 4 it was barely watchable.

>>212696168
I wrote my own ending where Daenerys gets spitroasted by Tyrion and one of her dragons and that one pirate who made her do ass to mouth that one time has a go at her too before the watery diarrhea becomes like the Stannis shadow and kills her.

>>212696168
i dont disagree despite your purile manner and stopped caring about the books a long time ago, but its also obvious that the 3 series that stayed closer to the books are clearly better. though i'd also agree there was a drop off in quality with the books in a feast for crows and beyond

Changing Robbs wife situation and his reasons for doing it could be the worst change in the first 5 seasons and completely ruins that whole northen plotline

>>212695001 (OP)
It was dumb from the beginning

By the end of season 5 I could notice a tangible drop in quality but it wasn't truly shit until the last 2 seasons.

>>212696274
Correct.
As to the thread question, I knew it was beyond saving when they fucked up Dorne. What jackassed.

>>212696168
It is never getting finished, and GURM is a dirty jew who loves money. Doesn't mean that even the worst book isn't miles better than the later seasons of GoT, or HotD in general for that matter.
Anyway, it's a dead universe. GURM's greed and sloth made it so, but that doesn't mean that shit writers like D&D, Condal, and Hess shouldn't get their share of the blame.

>>212695001 (OP)
After season 1, it goes to shit. Season 1 is perfect, and cuts all the fat from the first book, while leaving all the meat in the story.

>>212697849
I'd argue that certain characters were already suffering from poor adaptation decisions.

>>212695001 (OP)
after season 4. it was already getting sloppy by then but it became unrecoverable in s5

>>212695001 (OP)
When the first book was written.

>>212695826
This. Gone are the clever in-door dialogues and they're replaced with constant travelling and forest setpieces with flanderized characters

>>212695001 (OP)
I will give my absolute honest opinion.

I have this headcanon where it ends with Season 4, except that Tywin kills his traitorous dwarf son (or, depending on my mood, the two talk it out and go on to rule as father and son and eventually Tyrion ends up on the throne), kills the high sparrow as soon as he dares to make even the smallest move. I also imagine Cersei marrying Loras, which makes me laugh out loud imagining them trying to make a baby.
I could go on, but suffice to say, season 5 - 8 is in my experience poorly written fiction by D&D, with a few good parts sprinkled in there.
I can actually watch those last seasons and enjoy them for the low-quality they are. Interestingly, I cannot do that at all with the Disney Star Wars sequels, yet I can do with Rings of Power. Funny how that goes. Sometimes some slop can be retarded but it can still be fun to watch these trainwrecks unfold.
In the case of GoT S5-8 it's a mix of trainwreckery, absolute retardation, character butchery, with small whiffs of still genuinely decent scenes and good character moments (extremely rare, but there it is). For example: Brienne being knighted by Jaime and Brienne writing down Jaime's great deeds. In isolation, these are good moments. With season context, absolutely hilarious because of other moments, e.g. Jaime stating "To be honest I never much cared for the people, innocent or otherwise".

In a way those later seasons are fascinating. But they are absolutely not "canon".

ps in many ways I feel Season 1 is the only season that mostly adhered to the books. There are already some major problems occuring in Seasons 2 - 4 when taking into consideration the source material and even the trajectory of the show itself. But the quality of seasons 1 - 4 is, I believe rightly so, considered by many to be consistently very good.

>>212695001 (OP)
You're not White.

>>212695001 (OP)
When Cersei killed the not-pope and half of westeros nobility and nobody cared and instead gave her the Throne she didn't really have a claim to.

That was some amazingly retarded "idiot plot" writing.

the show died with Joffrey, without him the story was shit. He was the most interesting character, and the person who moved the plot along the most. Tywin dying killed any interest left in it.

>>212695041
agreed. S5 does have hardhome, which i loved, but it was overall a pretty bad season

>>212698483
I was still coping hard when that happened.
>she's going to blame Dany, the mad king's daughter, as well as Tyrion and Varys who used wildfire in the past, little birds are already implicated
>she'll make it seem like it was an assassination plot on her
>she will act like the most pious woman who ever walked eathoss, using her own crime as a shield and acting like rearming the Faith was a conscious decision she made instead of a fuckup
Nope. Everyone is just cool with what happened and even congratulate her on it. After all fucking Braavos of all places hates Dany because she's disrupting slave trade.

>>212695001 (OP)
Season 4 is the last season where I liked the whole package. Bad episodes started appearing with season 5 and the good:bad episode ratio became worse with each season. That being said each season from 5-8 had at least one standout episode, in my opinion